BS: Newcastle Nude

Subject: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 08:49 PM

WHY in the UK? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4689421.stm

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: mack/misophist
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 08:52 PM

Why not? They're in good company.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 09:52 PM

I feel sorry for them that they didn't regard it as sexual.. Can't help but think somehow sex should have occurred to one or two of them at least - even in Newcastle.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: HuwG
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 10:24 PM

Geordies know all about sex. They are the canvas bags in which coal is delivered.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 09:27 AM

Is Spencer Tunick his real name? Or is he just wearing it in for a friend? (Groucho Marx 1933)

I just looked at it from a PC at the library - guess what? The word Nude sent the net nanny into a sulk. No pix first try! OK second go.

blickie http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4689421.stm

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 10:56 AM

He's right about it not being sexual. From what they showed on the news, mass nudity is such a turnoff.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 11:11 AM

Tunick has been doing this all over the world for several years. Do a Google image search on the name, and you'll probably find his own home page. He used to have some really high-res .jpgs of his "art" posted, but it's been quite a while since I looked him up.

It's really kind of "old-hat" by now. The Brits should be insulted that it took him so long to get to them.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 01:02 PM

The Brits should be insulted that it took him so long to get to them

What's that supposed to mean?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 01:28 PM

BPL -

Just a joke, I think. He's done this in at least a dozen countries. I believe that includes several separate "events" in the US.

One might suppose he didn't think naked Brits would be as "artsy" as all those others who went before?

Or maybe he thought his "work" wouldn't accepted there - and was afraid?

When I first heard of him, I would have assumed he'd have gone where people had the most beautiful naked bodies - but having seen some of his work I'm quite sure that's not among his criteria. It looks more like it's wherever he can get by with it and can gather enough "sponsors."

Maybe he just ran out of gullible fools in the less civilized countries and decided to "try the harder ones."

John

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 01:34 PM

Here'Guardian story, complete with unaphrodisiac picture. I'm puzzled by how he manages to persuade all these people to do it. I mean, I'd be terrified someone would knick my trousers while I was off parading around. Mayber that's theey next stage in this kind of performance - thousands of people milling around trying to find what's hapened to their clothes, which are on a lorry heading South...

And then there's all the complication of sorting people out by colour to make some kind of picture - I mean with hair colour it'd be tricky enough, but it could turn nasty when it came to skin colour:

"If you have a tan or tattoos please go to the back. And you with the pink or blue hair, I don't think we'll have you in this one." Three people with fluorescent locks slipped out of the shot. From a distance, the mass of bodies, mostly white at the centre and pink at their edges, looked like a big dish of maggots. (From that Guardian story)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: frogprince
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 01:48 PM

I feel sorry for them that they didn't regard it as sexual

As Bill Clinton might have said, "It all depends on what your definition of 'sexual' is.."

mass nudity is such a turnoff

It all depends on what your definition of 'turnoff' is.

We've gone to nude resorts and beaches with some regularity for 20 years now. I'm not gonna try to tell anyone my eyes don't pick out the more comely looking "lasses"; if my wife noticed that they didn't, she would probably get worried and consider rushing me to (the) hospital. But I think only the odd guy, who is starved for what I'm definitely not starved for, finds himself tripping over his own tongue (or bumping into doors with anything else before he can reach the handle). So much of the appeal is simply that I can't imagine a more relaxed way to spend a warm day.

I've learned to be comfortable with the fact that nudity can have everything to do with sex, or nothing to do with sex. For myself, I think that posing in on one of Tunick's picures would be a "hoot", with little or no sexual aspect.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: GUEST,skipy
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 03:00 PM

I only found out today - I am gutted.
That is a piece of art that I would have taken part in.
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 03:32 PM

John he did this years ago in London.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: sapper82
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 05:42 PM

So what? I've been stripping off to model at life classes for the past 10y!!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 05:55 PM

I wonder what it all means as an artistic statement.

He must be sincere if he's spent all his life doing it.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 07:02 PM

It's a living...

Though with those skills in persuasion, he could probably make millions if he used them in other ways, so you're maybe right weelittle drummer.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: M.Ted
Date: 19 Jul 05 - 11:02 AM

There is a very interesting documentary about a couple of his shoots in NYC--one in Times Square, the other at a gas station--at the time, he didn't have permits, so it had to be staged as a sort of guerilla project--move in, block the streets, subjects stripped, layed out in the streets, with Tunick directing and trying to shoot and get people out before the cops arrived--

The images of hundreds of nude bodies, lying in an otherwise empty Times Square are definately disturbing--holocaust-like-

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: skipy
Date: 19 Jul 05 - 06:18 PM

There will be a small renactment @ WHFF this year, well at least I hope so.
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 10:25 AM

This is a very cool thing, and it's not disturbing at all. There IS nothing sexual about hundreds and hundreds of people being nude all at the same time in public, nothing whatsoever...but what there is, is this: a liberation from one of our most common artificially mentally conditioned fears...the fear OF being unclothed in the presence of others. No wonder many people who participated in the event said that they felt liberated by the experience. I bet they did. They will be far less emotionally constrained within themselves for having had that experience.

Why would nudity necessarily have to do with sexuality? It only would in a society where people are deathly afraid of being nude in front of others, and have to confine it only to certain sensual or extremely private circumstances. People who are afraid to show their bodies are also afraid to show their thoughts. Such people are living in an emotional cage of their own making, and it's a pretty small cage. Cages are for prisoners, not free people.

Hurrah for Newcastle! I hope they do it around here soon.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 11:15 AM

There's a woman in Manchester who goes jogging nude at lunchtime....

I can't find the link but she goes out at the same time every day, jogs down a fairly busy street and wears nothing but sneakers and a scoripion tattoo.....

Police cannot arrest her because no-one has complained......

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 11:18 AM

Good. That speaks well for Manchester.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: frogprince
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 01:49 PM

Somebody explain to me the origen of the idea that anyone could be harmed by the sight of a human body, in and of itself. If anyone is actually traumitized by simple nudity, It would only be because they have been so deeply indoctrinated in that regard. (No, I don't personally "flash", "streak", or otherwise inflict nudity on people, apart from just a couple of occasions of mooning friends who I knew would just laugh it off. )

(If that sounds like a serious rant...nah, not really).

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 01:51 PM

Right flippin' on, as Shane would say.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: skipy
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 06:10 PM

& yet again I agree so whole heartedly with Little Hawk.
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 07:56 AM

GUEST,skipy

You mean you would take yer dress off for a Tunick?

What, one wonders will you be wearing for Warwick?

Too late, I leave in an hour, I will only know at Warwick.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 09:56 PM

Frogprince - it's in Genesis but I can't quote verses....

"They saw that they were naked and were ashamed"

Nudity is all very well but sometimes it's just common sense and decency to cover up... when ironing or using a skillet/frying pan for instance or when it looks like you're wearing a body suit 14 sizes too big....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 01:11 PM

Oh, I knows the verse, Liz; but the Big Boss never orders them to cover up. What you've got here is a couple of people who, for the first time, have something to be ashamed of (diobedience). The guilt and shame contaminates their attitudes, and they get up tight about being nekkid.

(But no, I don't take the story literally).

Nor do I try to do arc welding nekkid; but swimming is sure the heck more comfortable that way when ya got the option.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: M.Ted
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:02 PM

I approve of nudity in principle, but most people look a lot better when they're dressed up--

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:38 PM

Yeah. That's what's so cool about clothes. And, of course, they keep you warm and protected from the weather conditions.

Liz - I think that the passage in Genesis refers not to physical nakedness, but being naked in their thoughts. Their inmost thoughts (of good and evil) were revealed. That's a far more frightening and embarassing situation in many cases than merely being physically naked in front of others.

"If my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine" - Bob Dylan

(if his body were seen, they'd just giggle and point...)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: JennyO
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 10:52 AM

Some years ago when I lived out in the country, we had some neighbours who were nudists. That was fine, but we couldn't bear to watch when he got out the chainsaw.....

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 08:44 PM

Oooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...................

Ever wondered why it's traditional that they covered up with a fig leaf?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 08:47 PM

Bugger.. my link here...... vanished.....

That ain't gonig to cover much is it? And it's not the most sensible shape either. Still, it could have been worse... it could have been a mahonia.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Jim McLean
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:08 AM

The shape of the leaf is what it's all about, whereas a mahonia should be worn on the othe side, behind, if you speak gaelic!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:21 AM

Don't think a fig leaf would help much with a chainsaw!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:27 AM

Because the biggest leaf in the fertile crescent is that of the fig tree.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Nude
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:50 AM

These
are a much more creative form of nudity. This event is happening in Austria this weekend, as it does every year. The photos are taken from the world body painting festival web site