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HI Max: What about Shambles requests?

George Papavgeris 26 Aug 05 - 01:20 PM
Wesley S 26 Aug 05 - 01:21 PM
John MacKenzie 26 Aug 05 - 02:06 PM
GUEST,Nosbig Nitram 26 Aug 05 - 02:07 PM
George Papavgeris 26 Aug 05 - 02:12 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 05 - 02:18 PM
Janie 26 Aug 05 - 02:20 PM
GUEST,Nosbig Nitram 26 Aug 05 - 02:27 PM
Le Scaramouche 26 Aug 05 - 02:31 PM
Ebbie 26 Aug 05 - 03:04 PM
MMario 26 Aug 05 - 03:08 PM
Le Scaramouche 26 Aug 05 - 03:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 05 - 03:19 PM
catspaw49 26 Aug 05 - 03:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 05 - 03:24 PM
The Shambles 26 Aug 05 - 03:33 PM
MMario 26 Aug 05 - 03:35 PM
GUEST,Nosbig Nitram 26 Aug 05 - 03:38 PM
MMario 26 Aug 05 - 03:40 PM
Le Scaramouche 26 Aug 05 - 03:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 05 - 03:54 PM
Janie 26 Aug 05 - 03:57 PM
MMario 26 Aug 05 - 03:59 PM
The Shambles 26 Aug 05 - 04:16 PM
Le Scaramouche 26 Aug 05 - 04:20 PM
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Joe Offer 26 Aug 05 - 04:57 PM
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gnu 26 Aug 05 - 08:09 PM
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Azizi 26 Aug 05 - 08:48 PM
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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 01:20 PM

4... Oh bugger!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 01:21 PM

600 is up for grabs at the "In the UK" thread. Better hurry !


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:06 PM

I'm above all those silly things myself!
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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: GUEST,Nosbig Nitram
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:07 PM

The vital thing here is that we all learn things like mutual respect, tolerance, kindness, that sort of thing. It shouldn't take over 400 posts to do that, should it?

I have found that hugging a teddy bear can help to calm those violent and hostile feelings that come up in debates. How many of you have a teddy bear? Have you considered getting one? If not, give it some thought right now.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:12 PM

Nitram, I just spent some time thinking about getting a teddy bear, as per your advice. I rejected it, as I already have Lakis The Rabbit to keep me company and provide comfort and succour. He is better, as he is fully machine washable.

And Giok, I though I was above such trivial games, until I realised how much fun I was missing on! Hours of scouring the index for the next opportunity... Who needs a life when one has such sport? :-)


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:18 PM

I strangled my teddy bear.. Man, you should have seen his eyes bug out!

Jerry


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Janie
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:20 PM

Sick, Jerry. Really sick. (Not at all like the rest of this thread;^)

Janie


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: GUEST,Nosbig Nitram
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:27 PM

I feel your pain, Jerry! I really do. You must have experienced some terrible childhood trauma to have to act out in that manner. Thank God it was not another human being or an innocent pet that had to bear the brunt of your uncontrollable impulse!

Well, I am thinking that if you were just to try some positive affirmations, such as "I love everybody!" or "Aren't people wonderful?" then you would soon discover amazing effects from it. Simply repeat the affirmations for an hour or so, two or three times a day, and watch how your life transforms!

Now, isn't this nicer than crude jokes about flatulence? I ask you.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:31 PM

Shambles, of course, is almost bulldog like in his singlemindedness. It's a pity he thinks the subject is always HELP, HELP, I'm BEING REPRESSED!!!!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:04 PM

Jerry's teddy said, HELP! HELP! I'M BEING PRESSED!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: MMario
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:08 PM

Jerry's Teddy went to sea and returned seven years later, changed beyond recognition (Salt air does that to a toys stuffing, y'know) and the only way they recognized each other was by matching up the two halves of a tinker-toy Jerry had broken.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:19 PM

The tinker toy that was ruthlessly ground underfoot, you mean.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:19 PM

I didn't really want to do it, Janie. I kept telling him to shut up, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I got sick of him sitting there all stuffed and looking so self-important. If there's anything I can't stand it's someone who is all puffed up!

Jerry


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:20 PM

And the little bear was overjoyed ... Not to find Jerry, but that someone had removed the broken Tinker Toy Jerry had shoved up his ass many years before.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:24 PM

The final straw was when he kept saying "I'm that kind of a bear.."
"You're no Winnie The Pooh," I answered..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:33 PM

I see the evidence of others who have had their thread titles changed: some with consultation and others without. For the most part, they seem to think that the changes were minor and for the better. I believe you may be unique in being the only one who complains interminably.
Jerry


Do you also judge that I may also be unique in the assumptions – judgements and editing treatment that I receive at the hands of our anonymous volunteer fellow posters? Jerry you didn't answer the following.

Jerry - Are you saying that this special treatment is reserved for me only? And if so - despite the rather hollow claims by them for impartiality - this special imposition by our anonymous volunteer fellow posters on the three of my thread titles detailed and supposedly imposed only for 'clarification' in isolation - is perfectly acceptable and not personally motivated?

If you think such imposition (for clarity only) is acceptable on my threads titles alone - why would anyone expect you (or anyone else) to view imposition upon their thread titles any differently?

We have privileges in here, not rights.

I assume that you accept that the above applies to all of us? Perhaps you would accept that some do think they are now more privileged than others? Or do you also think that the ability to impose judgement upon the words of your fellow posters to be a 'minimal' ability?

Do you accept that there is a basic and traditional right on our forum - to expect that the words of our contributions to appear as posted – unless we first agree to any change - or unless the post is an abusive personal attack – racist etc.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: MMario
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:35 PM

boy is THAT one loaded with land mines!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: GUEST,Nosbig Nitram
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:38 PM

These kind of corrosive personal confrontations can easily be defused by simply imagining yourself AS the person with whom you are having the disagreement. Empathize with his or her needs and concerns deeply, putting your own prejudice aside, and meditate on it for at least 15 minutes. If by the end of that time you are not seeing your "opponent" in a newer and far kinder light, I will be very surprised!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: MMario
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:40 PM

Do you accept that there is a basic and traditional right on our forum - to expect that the words of our contributions to appear as posted – unless we first agree to any change - or unless the post is an abusive personal attack – racist etc.

no. because it isn't true. this is a private site and may be modified, erased, deleted, etc at any time by the owner or his appointed proxies.

That *you* have the expectation that the words of contributions to appear as posted is obvious.

But This is the real world. You do not have the right to expect or demand that.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:46 PM

"Jerry - Are you saying that this special treatment is reserved for me only? And if so - despite the rather hollow claims by them for impartiality - this special imposition by our anonymous volunteer fellow posters on the three of my thread titles detailed and supposedly imposed only for 'clarification' in isolation - is perfectly acceptable and not personally motivated?

If you think such imposition (for clarity only) is acceptable on my threads titles alone - why would anyone expect you (or anyone else) to view imposition upon their thread titles any differently?"

See this:

I see the evidence of others who have had their thread titles changed: some with consultation and others without. For the most part, they seem to think that the changes were minor and for the better. I believe you may be unique in being the only one who complains interminably.
Jerry


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:54 PM

There you go creating clairty out of confusion, Scaramouche.

Shambles is up to his usual accusations which bear no resemblance to what others have actually said.

Ted E. Bear has spoken from the grave

Jerry


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Janie
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:57 PM

I just love a fairy tale.

Love,

Janie and her bear


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: MMario
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 03:59 PM

hey! I finally figured out why Sorcha is so great at finding info for people!

We've been assuming she is human - when in reality:

Sorcha is S.O.R.C.H.A; the Search, Organize, Catalog, Heuristic Application!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:16 PM

Shambles is up to his usual accusations which bear no resemblance to what others have actually said.

Jerry - I have accused you of something? You have publicly admitted to the teddy bear abuse - what else have you done?

Do you also judge that I may also be unique in the assumptions – judgements and editing treatment that I receive at the hands of our anonymous volunteer fellow posters?


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:20 PM

He said you were unique in WHINGING on about it.
Ad BLOODY nauseum.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:20 PM

Shambles, if your children inherited the trait that keeps on going and going and going, life must get tedious at times. Where did you get it, do you suppose?

What eventually happened to your teddy bear, Jerry, do you suppose?
Ocean voyage moisture can play hell with plush.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: MMario
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:21 PM

shambles - he answered that question quite some time ago.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:25 PM

Duracell Batteries.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: BaldEagle2
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:28 PM

Oy!   We was having a very entertaining discussion on topics of interest to most mudcatters, and now we are back off-thread discussing the meaning of one particular and peculiar philosophy.

If you REALLY want to discuss this, please join me in the DKSS (Dirty Kives Secret Society) where such things are always on topic.

Thank you.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:36 PM

MMario said

But This is the real world. You do not have the right to expect or demand that.

To have one's words (if they are civil etc) appear as posted on our forum - has traditionally been been an expectation and not a very contentious expectation up to now. To expect such a thing to continue is hardly demanding anything that has not long been 'a given'.

The rather more contentious expectation (at least from those who seem to be subject to more than their fair share of it) is the one now where anonymous volunteer fellow posters would wish to impose their words upon their fellow posters (claiming to be for purposes of clarification only) - without their knowledge or permission.

Those who feel they will never be subject to such imposition seem to judge that it is perfectly OK when others are subject to more than their fair share of this imposition (for purposes of clarification) and somehow unreasonable for these fellow posters not to be happy about this rather unfair situation.....


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:57 PM

Shambles sez:
    Do you accept that there is a basic and traditional right on our forum - to expect that the words of our contributions to appear as posted – unless we first agree to any change - or unless the post is an abusive personal attack – racist etc.



That's absolutely correct, Shambles. I couldn't have said it better myself. However, that right applies only once. When you type the initial message in a thread, you choose the title - and it remains unchanged in that first message. The thread title is redundant, a repetition of the title of that first message; so it can be changed for utilitarian purposes. If anyone wishes to see what you really said, they need look no further than your message. Isn't that handy?

Max granted you the right to free expression - but I don't recall ever seeing that he granted you the right to redundancy. That redundancy is just a bad habit of yours that tends to bore the rest of us.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 05:26 PM

Come on, Mr. Offer, shoot him, you have the right.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: gnu
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 08:09 PM

Can you sell hampstershit?


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 08:23 PM

No. I don't think so.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 08:48 PM

I see alot has happened since I went awol.

On 26 Aug 05 - 12:26 PM Shambles said I was a loose cannon.

Gee, I've never been called a loose cannon before.

A cannon??? Who, little ole me???!!

Well, I gotta say that I don't think I'm shaped like a cannon.
And actually I'm much too uptight to be considered loose.

Sorry, Shambles, I reject your description of me.


Azizi


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 11:01 PM

My son threw his teddy in the john to see if it would float. It did until the water saturated it then it sank. Took weeks to dry him out and he never looked quite the same.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 11:26 PM

Turded teddy then.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 05:01 AM

The thread title is redundant, a repetition of the title of that first message; so it can be changed for utilitarian purposes

Once again - the issue is not one of any change - it one of this change's selective imposition now - by anonymous volunteer fellow posters - without the originator's knowledge or permission - for reasons only of the title's clarity........Alledgedly.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 11:34 AM

Shambles, if they were so dead-set on censoring you, why are you allowed to blather on?

Azizi, you hardly expect us to take the word of a loose canon, do you?


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 11:54 AM

Is this Lou S Cannon related in any way to Frank Cannon the well known TV detective played by William Conrad?
G..


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 12:04 PM

Yep!

But I gotta tell ya that I'm not as loose as I'm gonna be, since
God isn't finished with me yet.

Word up!!! *

*"Word Up!"-an affirming expression from the 1990s or so that use to be the bomb but is largely played out now.

Power to the people!

Azizi


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 12:40 PM

My "Yep" was in reference to Le Scaramouche's question to me and not to Giok's question about Lou S Cannon and Frank Cannon.

With regard to that question, my response is "I haven't got a clue".

Yeah, I know. Some people think that I don't have a clue about alot of things I spout off about.

Maybe that's why someone whose name I won't mention {but it starts with "S" and ends with "s"} thinks that I'm a loose cannon.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 12:47 PM

Which reminds me of a call & response children's cheer that I collected from Pittsburgh, PA area in 1997. The group repeats each line after the leader recites it:

How funky is the chicken.

How loose is the goose.

So come'on everybody

and shake your caboose.

Yeah, shake your caboose.

-snip-

Of course 'caboose' means "buttocks"; "butt".

There's a bunch of words that mean "buttocks". Which ones are you partial to??


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: gnu
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 12:57 PM

Frank Cannon... man, he could shoot! I use to watch every show just to see him knock the bad guys' guns outta their hands at a hundred yards with that little Snub-nosed .38 cal at five minutes to the hour. And they weren't standing still... they were running as fast as Ben Johnson in the 100m steroids and zig-zagging like a sidewinder on a hot tin roof in Death Valley. Man, he could shoot!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 01:20 PM

Loose Cannons of the World unite, and hoist the Oppressors by their own petards!!!


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 01:55 PM

Maybe that's why someone whose name I won't mention {but it starts with "S" and ends with "s"} thinks that I'm a loose cannon.

Azzi- I will willing trade being called a 'loose cannon' for some of the names that I have been called by my fellow posters - in these threads.

Many of these posters whom claim to be bored - still can't resist opening the threads they claim to find boring and can't resist refreshing threads again and again by posting mainly to saying how boring they find them and expressing surprise that the threads are still going strong and telling others not to respond.

There probably is a name for these posters............


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 02:00 PM

My guess is that you know all about "post addiction", Shambles. LOL


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 02:02 PM

Well, Shambles, this is the equivalent of picking a scab.


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 02:16 PM

Janie said

Very recently Joe changed the prefix of the Sally Walker thread from my Lyric Add to Origin cuz that is what the thread had sequed to. He PM'd me after the fact. It was nice of him to take the time to pm me, but absolutely unneccessary. Even more recently, a post of mine was deleted from another thread. Apparently both the insult I was reacting to and the responses of myself and others were all deleted.

So what?

I did not disagree with either of those decisions, but if I had--so what? Joe et. al. are willing to take the time and effort to help maintain this site. Max has chosen to delegate to them. It is their call to make. Whether I agree or disagree is immaterial.


I think that it has to do with when you started posting on our forum and your expectations. If you only see poor treatment and the dregs you will only expect poor treatment and the dregs – you may then be quite happy to be given poor treatment and the dregs.

It is sad that others who have experienced the vintage wine are only prepared to serve you the dregs.

It is also sad that these individuals feel that they are now in a position to deny you the vintage wine and can choose to serve you only the dregs.

Sad also that the expectations of so many posters have been lowered to the point where they are prepared to think themselves grateful to be served only the dregs or rather to have the dregs imposed upon them.
    The "Origins" tag is added to threads that give the most complete information about a song, including origins information and documented sources. Ordinarily, the tag is added AFTER a thread has developed, depending on the quality of information in the thread. An "origins" thread is roughly equivalent to a DTStudy, except that Origins threads are not edited. If the "origins" thread is used for other purposes, it is changed.
    The "Folklore" tag is intended for non-music information (history, linguistics, folklore, culture, etc.) that has a direct relation to music and songs. If the Folklore tag is used for music information, it is changed.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 02:17 PM

450!!!!! Thank you!


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