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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 01:48 PM

Yes, I went to the local hobby shop, a Lionel dealer, and couldn't even get someone to help me. The kid who I finally did ask about O gauge didn't have a clue, but did say, "Well, we can order it, I think" -- in front of a stack of O gauge curved rail pieces. It was, in a word, a sad experience....

And I'll be doing my shopping elsewhere I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 11:26 AM

Rap, MTH sued the shit out of Lionel for stealing engineering secrets and won a judgement for $40 million.

ebay is the market place, for sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 09:20 AM

I've managed to avoid Ebay thus far, but I suspect that it won't be long before I have to get involved. "Caveat emptor" applies everwhere, and moreso with on-line sales -- so far I've been lucky, both personally and at work.

My Z-series transformer is currently in the shop and should be ready 'most any day. One rheostat might be gone, but there are three others that seem to only need cleaning, checking, and a new power cord. Anyone who thinks I'll run a 250 watt transformer on a cord insulated with crumbling rubber better think again....

I find that I'm really getting pretty excited about this.

There was an article on model trains in the Washington Post on December 26, here are a couple excerpts:

"Our average customer is a 52-year-old man," says Mike Wolf, founder of MTH Electric Trains. A multimillion-dollar enterprise in Columbia, MTH is the second-largest model train company in the United States. Wolf says model trains have always been bought by older guys, mostly for themselves.

Men might say they are buying the trains for their children or their grandchildren, but they're not. "Kids are an excuse," Wolf says. Hobbyists, mostly male, spend hundreds of millions of dollars each year on model trains and model railroad paraphernalia.


and

Competition is fierce in the model railroad world. Lionel was founded in 1900; MTH began in 1992. In the mid-1990s, a consortium including rock-and-roll legend Neil Young bought Lionel. A few years later, MTH filed suit against Lionel for stealing trade secrets and Lionel was forced into bankruptcy. It has re-emerged strong, says Calabrese, who has been with the company about 18 months.

The whole article is here,
but they make you do a free registration (I answered all the questions I considered to be marketing related as "Other").


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 08:42 AM

All Queensland trains (including the high speed tilt train) run on 3'6", Victoria used to be 6', and the rest of Australia is standard gague. The 'cane trains' are about 2 ft or 28 inches.

All these are 'full size', not 'minature' trains.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 10:46 AM

SRS, I do whatever it takes to win on ebay if I want it bad enough. I will snipe in the last 5 seconds to win because everyone else is trying to do that. I will "buy it know" if the price is right and it is offered that way. Right now, believe it or not, there are over 80,000 items available in all of the catagory "model RR,trains"

It is most certainly a buyer beware situation, but believe it or not, this is overall an honorable hobby.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 09:38 AM

I guess in parts of the world where narrow guage is uncommon people would call it "miniature".   Here in the northeastern United States, where narrow guage is practically non-existant, the only non-standard guage track can be found on "miniature" trains in amusement parks and the like.   Technically, I guess they would be narrow guage since the engines and cars are really full-size, although they are made to resemble their standard gauge cousins!


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 09:34 AM

You're right about the Old=$$ syndrome at flea markets, MG. What one needs to achieve is a hobbyist marketplace disconnect--showing interest in an object is certain to keep the price high, but being able to pick it up and look at it and decide if it will work is desirable. eBay has a lot of things for sale, but it does take research to be sure the vendor knows what they're offering since I find the photos, especially of small objects, are sometimes useless.

I started buying over eBay this summer, and have had luck with some categories and not with others. Apparently train accoutrement is one of the more successful categories for the online auction (or do you go straight to the "Buy It Now" store?)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: sapper82
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 07:50 AM

WFDU;
It is suprising how many visitors refer to Steeple Grange and various Welsh Narrow Gauge as Miniture Railways!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:01 PM

I don't think any of us confused the two. The railroad that Sapper pointed out is narrow gauge, not minature. The railroads that Snuffy pointed out are also narrow guage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: sapper82
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 01:35 PM

Thankyou Snuffy and WFDU!
And please do not confuse "Miniature" railways with "Narrow Gauge."
Narrow Gauge are small full sized bits of kit on track smaller than standard gauge.

Miniature are large scale models.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Once Famous
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 09:57 PM

Guest Ajames, as one who is very familiar with Marx trains, you can't use the wheels from other Marx engines for your Joy Line train. You might have to find another Joy line engine (cheap again I hpe) and make one out of two. Joy Line trains, which were made by the Girard Mfg Co of Girard, Pa was bought by the Marx Co. in 1935. They were made in both wind-up and electric versions.

SRS, I have collected vintage electric trains for almost 20 years. Occasionally something can be found at a flea market but not often. The problem is that everyone who sells at a flea market things just because it's old, it's worth a ton of money. As a general rule, the very common train items found at flea markets are few an far between. Ebay has become the market place, followed by buyer and dealer swap meets run by local and national organizations. Like any antique collecting, there is no substitute for experience in the marketplace.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Snuffy
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 04:05 PM

And what's wrong with a life-size narrow-gauge loco, Nigel? There's loads of them in Wales - V of R, Tallyllyn, Ffestiniog, etc, etc, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 03:48 PM

Nigel, did you check the link that Sapper gave? It becomes quite clear. Impressive!


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 03:40 PM

Sapper82:
You've got me confused!
When you get tired of O Gauge, you can always do what my 16yo has done. He's got his own 18" gauge, 12" to the Foot scale battery loco to restore!
How can it be 12 inches to the foot & 'Scale'? 12 inches to the foot is as close to life-size as dammit is to cussin'

CHEERS
Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: GUEST,AJames guest
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 01:10 PM

Does anyone know of a book that deals solely with the how to of train restoration? Things like how to get the rust off without ruining the whole train and do I really want to attempt this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: GUEST,AJames, guest
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 01:05 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: johnross
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 06:44 PM

You can probably use new Marx wheels on those Joy Line train cars. Go to http://www.marxtrains.com/ and follow the links on the right side to Parts and then to Wheels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: sapper82
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 05:46 PM

When you get tired of O Gauge, you can always do what my 16yo has done. He's got his own 18" gauge, 12" to the Foot scale battery loco to restore!
Phillip's loco


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: GUEST,AJames
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 09:50 AM

Help!!! I just acquired a Joy Line train...engine, tender, and 2 passenger cars...very poor condition...much rust. The engine isnt' too bad body wise, but the wheels are quite rusty and the copper connection is very corroded.   The wheels will turn very slowly by hand so they are not completely frozen. I'm an American Flyer collector but have become very interested in the earlier trains, Marx,Dorfan, and got this Joy Line on ebay cheap. Am wondering is there any way to attempt to clean up the rust at least on the cars for display even if I can't get it running again. The wheels on the passenger cars look so bad, I think the rust has truly corroded them. Can they be replaced?
Thanks for any help anyone can give. Feel free to email me at AJames7993@aol.com if I've taken too much space here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: GUEST,AJames7993
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 09:35 AM

Help!!! I just acquired a Joy Line train...engine, tender, and 2 passenger cars...very poor condition...much rust. The engine isnt' too bad body wise, but the wheels are quite rusty and the copper connection is very corroded.   The wheels will turn very slowly by hand so they are not completely frozen. I'm an American Flyer collector but have become very interested in the earlier trains, Marx,Dorfan, and got this Joy Line on ebay cheap. Am wondering is there any way to attempt to clean up the rust at least on the cars for display even if I can't get it running again. The wheels on the passenger cars look so bad, I think the rust has truly corroded them. Can they be replaced?
Thanks for any help anyone can give. Feel free to email me at AJames7993@aol.com if I've taken too much space here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: GUEST,AJames7993@aol.com
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 09:03 AM

Help!!! I just acquired a Joy Line train...engine, tender, and 2 passenger cars...very poor condition...much rust. The engine isnt' too bad body wise, but the wheels are quite rusty and the copper connection is very corroded.   The wheels will turn very slowly by hand so they are not completely frozen. I'm an American Flyer collector but have become very interested in the earlier trains, Marx,Dorfan, and got this Joy Line on ebay cheap. Am wondering is there any way to attempt to clean up the rust at least on the cars for display even if I can't get it running again. The wheels on the passenger cars look so bad, I think the rust has truly corroded them. Can they be replaced?
Thanks for any help anyone can give. Feel free to email me at AJames7993@aol.com if I've taken too much space here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 10:11 PM

If you decide to come to Texas at some point, make sure it is at the first of the month. We can put you up and send you over to the Canton flea market and let you hunt train bits to your heart's delight.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 05:43 PM

The model railroad club here leased a store in a strip mall, which turned our to be next door to one of the DC sniper attacks.
One layout in G scale was 70 ft long and 25 ft wide. Amazing collection of rolling stock and integrated layout details.

There was a nationwide integration of dozens of great HO layouts displayed at the Hyatt Regency a few years back. It even included subways and animated scenes better than HBO's model lab.

Union Station had a nice winter mountain railroad in HO.

I have been working 10 years on and off on archetecture details in N scale for a 4 seasons pastoral mountain theme layout I have yet to assemble.

The most elaborate layout I ever saw as a "working railroad" where people would sign up weeks in advance to work just one segment of 7 different railroad jobs and strict schedules including passenger, coal, hazardous, frieght, timber, etc. The most important job was control central when shared tracks and sidings had to be scheduled carefully to avoid catastrophic spills.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Peace
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 05:44 PM

http://dir.yahoo.com/Recreation/Hobbies/Models/Trains_and_Railroads/Layouts/HO_Scale/


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 05:30 PM

Not that I've found, no. But then I haven't had a reason to look before.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 11:23 AM

A friend in Brooklyn, NY lived in one of those tall old Victorian houses with three floors on top of a big basement, and topped with a huge walk-through attic over the top of the whole thing. The attic, shaped by dormers and architectural flourishes, was broken down into spaces to reflect the rooms of the third floor and was floored but not finished. He had trains set to run through all of those rooms with dioramas throughout. The ultimate treat for any visitor was to be invited to stand on the steep folding stairway at about waist-high in that space and have the trains and lights on and running all around you. The occasional derailings or collisions were cause for much activity by the various engineers overseeing the operation. What a floor show!

Sewing machine oil is particularly good for your train use because it comes in specialized containers meant to pinpoint the oil delivery. No one who sews wants machine oil on the working surface of the machine, where it would ruin or damage the fabric. Be patient with that kind of container--don't squeeze it too hard or you'll have an explosion of oil.

eBay is good for trains and paraphernalia, but for this kind of restoration I would be inclined to look for area flea markets first. eBay can provide a price and materials guide, but at a flea market you can get your hands on the stuff for sale and plug things in to see if they really work. And if you find someone selling these train materials you're also likely to tap into a local network through that vendor. There are tons of flea markets around Texas, and the granddaddy of flea markets is the Canton, Texas, First Monday market that is huge. Do you have something comparable in Idaho?

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 11:22 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 09:21 AM

No sidetrack intended. As I have said twice before with no malice or name calling (unlike others) : I bow to the knowledge of the toy king and urge everyone to send them contact info for his sound and sage advice.

For the last couple weeks I have had 2 G scale trains and 24 ft of track going around the lighted Christmas village beneath our tree.
Burger stand, Library, Dept Store, vintagee cars&trucks etc.
Its a toss up whether the kids have had more fun than me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 11:13 PM

You could learn a bit from Martin, Donuel. He knows his stuff.
Thanks for your vain attempt to sidetrack this thread. (Pun intended)


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: bobad
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 10:50 PM

A lot of people don't have much food on their table
But they got a lot of rifles and guns
Man, they gotta shoot something

with apologies to Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 10:41 PM

I looked at it again -- it's pretty thick, and I decided not to use it.   I bought it to use experiment with as a patch lubricant. Gun slik, huh? I can get that fairly easily, as this is hunting country (only place I've ever worked where most folks in town know where the rifle range is and where even the librarians shoot targets and skeet). I'm currently working on getting the rust off the transformer before I bring it to Sam for work. Some of this stuff is in such shape that I'm embarassed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: johnross
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 10:25 PM

If you're a gunsmith, or have a source of supplies, Gunslik graphite lubricant is excellent for lubricating the gears in a locomotive.

I wouldn't use that synthetic whale oil--machine oil is better and probably cheaper.As I said, either sewing machine oil or something called "Zoom-Spout Oil" (about $2 for a lifetime supply at your local Ace Hardware) will work better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 09:34 PM

I have a bottle of synthetic whale oil. I suppose it came from synthetic whales; I bought it to use with my black powder guns. I've found a guy who can evaluate (and even rewire) the transformer and I'll drop it off this week.

I told him there was no rush -- the train hasn't run in 40+ years and I want to do it right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 09:20 PM

Johnross and Martin give good advice. Replace the transformer with a new or rebuilt one through a dealer or model RR club contacts. The rest is mostly elbow grease and time, as noted by johnross. Ebay also is a good suggestion. More track and rolling stock for my American Flyer set-up, as I remember from childhood, were a constant demand of mine. I still have a vial of whale oil (don't know how it got kept all these years), but only some HO trains packed away.
I got inundated with mail order catalogues this year, and several had starter Lionel trains on offer. Are they coming back?

Don't get hooked! Some poor souls are seriously afflicted.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 08:48 PM

Please everyone give your name address phone number and SS to Martin Gibson for his sage and sound advice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Peace
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 03:04 PM

Site here for y'all to look at.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 02:57 PM

Little Hawk, I too admire people who play bases. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 10:01 AM

I'm going to get this setup running if it bankrupts me (which it shouldn't, really). And I think that I'll do more (now) than simply run a train on a board with track on it, which is what we used to have.

The transformer is a Z model from Lionel. It's dirty and has surface rust on the plate, the lights at the top are gone, and it will have to be rewired, possibly rebuilt. The track is rusty; that I'll just replace. And I have to find out how to repair the coupler that's come off one of the cars.

None of this seems insurmontable, but I'll have to brush up my soldering skills.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: johnross
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 11:27 PM

Most of those old toy trains still have a lot of life in them, but it will help to clean them up and oil them.

Here's what I do to restore old trains:

First, clean, lube and oil the engine. You should be able to remove the plastic or cast-metal shell from the motor by removing a few screws. Don't remove any screws that aren't attaching the shell to the motor. If the shell or any of the cars are dirty, use some dish detergent in water and a soft cloth to clean them.

Lionel used whale oil (really!) on their trains until some time around 1960. By now, it has broken down into gunk that slows things down rather than making the wheels and gears turn more smoothly. So you should use something like isopropyl alcohol or carburetor cleaner to clean the gunk off anyplace where you see metal turning against metal. Don't let the cleaner get close to painted surfaces on the shell or it might clean off the paint.

If the original owners had a family cat, there's probably lots of cat hair inside the locomotive, too. Clean it all out.

After you clean the locomotive, use light machine oil (sewing machine oil works well) to oil all the bearings, and some kind of grease (I use graphite grease) on the gears. Now move the driving wheels by hand to spread the grease around the gear drive. They should turn smoothly and quietly.

There's probably a wire running from the electrical pickup that runs along the center track to the motor. If the wire has broken loose from the contactor, you'll have to solder it back into place. It's usually obvious where it should go.

Now look at the wheels on the engine and all the cars. Clean off the old gunk, and put a small drop of oil on each bearing, where the shaft holding the wheels turns in a socket. Don't oil wheels made after about 1970, because they use a delrin (like teflon) bearing that doesn't need any oil.

Finally, look at each wheel on both the engine and the cars. There's almost always a black ring of old caked oil and dirt around the surface where the wheel ran on top of the track. Scrape off the crud with a knife or some other sharp tool like a small chisel. This will reduce friction and improve the electrical contact between the wheels and the track.

You can get an inexpensive small secondhand transformer that will be enough to power your train at a Lionel dealer or a swap meet, usually for $10 or less. The serious collectors and operators prefer the bigger transformers, so the little ones go for peanuts. Make sure you can plug it in and test the transformer before you buy it. Use a volt meter or ask somebody at the store or meet to test it with a locomotive. If you smell burning insulation, or if the throttle doesn't run smoothly through the whole power range, don't buy it.

You can probably find cheap rust-free used track at the same places. Don't forget to get a "lock-on" that clips the wire to the track. If you don't get one thrown in with the track, buy a new one--they're cheap.

Get some 16-gauge wire to connect the transformer to the track at the hardware store.

That's all it takes. I've used those techniques to restore trains that were 70 or 80 years old, and most of them run just fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 10:49 PM

What the heck...I said "rolling stone" back there, and I meant rolling stock. Ha! Must be getting tired, I guess.

I also know a base player who has a "Garden scale" train layout in his backyard. The trains can flee inclement weather by going direct from the backyard into a tunnel that leads into his basement, and an extensive layout down there. This guy is a well known session player in Toronto, and has been on a lot of albums, usually of the folky variety. Can't come up with his name right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Once Famous
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 10:09 PM

There are oh so many trains to be gotten super cheap on ebay. Old stuff, also.

There value is low because so many were made, but they still have that vintage vibe.

suggest that anyone who likes old electric trains check out a magazine called Classic Toy Trains. Just do a search and you will find their web site. It is a great resource for everything regarding the hobby from articles to advertisements to great pictures.

Hope some of you check it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: GUEST,Bert
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 10:04 PM

Try your local auction house Raps.

I picked up an O gauge track layout for $10 a while back. Now all I need is some rolling stock.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 08:37 PM

Trains are neat. The variety and quality of stuff available now is just incredible. I have a friend, a retired RCMP officer, who is a hardcore train collector and layout builder, and he's fast! He took about a year to build this whole incredible layout with hundreds of buildings, forests, rivers, a ferry, 3 towns, and God knows how many locomotives and rolling stone. Unbelievable. The guy is a first rate model builder and a true train aficionado. He even created his own fictional train line with its own logo, made the decals, and decorated a lot of the trains.

His wife helped out by making a couple of thousand miniature trees! There's even an airport, a regular beach, and a nude beach tucked away in a more remote location...all in HO scale, of course. ;-) Oh, and there are some deer and other wildlife here and there in the countryside.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Peace
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 06:25 PM

I recall when I was about five or six. I received a train set as a Christmas present. But times were tough and we were a fairly impoverished family: Mother, sis and me. It was a little steam train--we didn't have electricity because the power had been cut off. To get it to run we had to cut up the furniture and burn it one little piece at a time. The engine ran steady for the entire twelve days of Christmas, and then, because we were out of furniture, it stopped. I have many fond memories of that little engine, a faltbed, passenger car and red caboose. FYI.

PS I do not recall the track gauge.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 06:24 PM

FWIW hauled out of the attic my ancient American Flyer rolling stock, a steam locomotive, a diesel, and some odds and ends. Still haven't found the rails but they're probably up there. Any ideas of what to do with 'em?


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Peace
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 06:20 PM

Anyway, back to trains . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 06:18 PM

That's Marty works - he upsets people for ages, then pretends sweetness, light and helpfulness, and some people pretend to get shocked when he gets blasted...


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 10:05 AM

This is why Martin gets such a bad rap. He gave a perfectly legitimate and helpful answer and Donuel had to act like a jerk and instigate a fight.   That is shameful.   It isn't Martin that gives Mudcat a bad name, it is hypocrits and flamers. Sure Martin can be abrasive and says things that people disagree with, but the reaction is probably worse.

Sorry to single you out Donuel, but the posts speak volumes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 09:30 AM

lets all bow to the toy king Martin Gibson


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Subject: RE: BS: Model Train: Sort of Tech
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 09:10 AM

I've just got the one 0 gauge right now. It's plenty, for it's carrying a full load of memories.


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