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Lyr Req: Always (Irving Berlin)

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Genie 17 Jan 06 - 05:17 AM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: Genie
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 05:17 AM

LOL, Terry and JJ!

FWIW, I was almost certain I was spelling Mrs. Berlin's name wrong. It was "Ellin," not "Ellen," and their daughter's name was Mary Ellin (now Barrett).   Ellin Mackay's father was a big mucky muck in the boys' clothing industry.   He sent Ellin away to Europe in the early 1920s to keep her away from Irving, but she returned a year later and the couple eloped. It was during Ellin's forced absence that Irving Berlin wrote "What'll I Do?" and "Remember."
When she returned, he wrote "Always" for her.   All 3 songs were ©1925.

Both Berlin and his father-in-law lost fortunes in the stock market crash of 1929, but Berlin was in a better position to bounce back, as sound had just come to the motion picture industry and Berlin's talents were in demand for writing film scores.

PBS documentary on Irving Berlin




http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g1epc/is_bio/ai_2419200098


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: Terry K
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 04:52 AM

or even, I'll be loving you, all ways ....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a l
From: JJ
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 08:42 AM

George S. Kaufman, a far less sentimental man than Irving Berlin, suggested the song be rewritten as, "I'll be loving you, Tuesday..."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a l
From: Genie
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 10:23 PM

Flash, you're right about the events that helped bring about the reconciliation of Irving B. and Ellen with her dad. I'd forgotten about that part. Yes, thre came a time when the song-in-law was not only the one with money but pretty well respected, too.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a l
From: singout
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 09:44 AM

Thank you all so very much. Should've come here first. I like Crystal Gayle's version the best. I will treasure these lyrics.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: Flash Company
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 09:31 AM

I believe that Ellen's old man relented about Irving's musical/Jewish background when he himself lost a substantial part of his fortune in the Wall Street Crash whilst Irving, cannily, hung on to his.
Oh, and by the way, don't even think of parodying an Irving Berlin song,his estate still gets very touchy!

FC


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: fat B****rd
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 08:19 AM

Lovely thread.The older I get the more I enjoy "standards". Eckstine and Vaughan are always a joy to hear IMO.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: Jeanie
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 05:00 AM

I think it's a beautiful song - thanks for telling us the story behind it, Genie; and how lovely to be linked to your mum through this song, Penny, in your dream.

I always associate this song with Noel Coward's play "Blithe Spirit" - This is what is played on the gramophone when the spirit of Elvira, the first Mrs. Condomine, re-appears. Just the right choice of song for the scene !

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: Terry K
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 04:25 AM

Best one I know was Sammy Turner's version - anyone remember him?

Worst one ever is Leonard Cohen's.

cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: Genie
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 01:03 AM

Oh, and Patsy Cline also recorded this song. Did a great job, too. (Big surprise!)


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALWAYS (Irving Berlin)
From: Genie
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 01:02 AM

Irving Berlin wrote this for his second wife, Ellin Mackay. His first wife caught typhoid (?) on their honeymoon and soon died....Ellin was Roman Catholic and the daughter of a prominent upper class family. Her father disowned her for marrying not only a Jew, but a (shudder!) MUSICIAN, to boot!
It was not until after their daughter was born (when Irving wrote Blue Skies as a tribute to her) a few years later that Ellin's dad relented and finally sort of made up with his daughter.
Ellin and Irving were married in 1925, and he wrote these words for her:

ALWAYS
(Irving Berlin, 1925)

Everything went wrong
And the whole day long
I'd feel so blue.
For the longest while
I'd forget to smile.
Then I met you.
Now that my blue days have passed,
Now that I've found you at last,

I'll be loving you Always,
With a love that's true, Always.
When the things you've planned
Need a helping hand,
I will understand Always, Always.
Days may not be fair Always.
That's when I'll be there, Always.
Not for just an hour,
Not for just a day,
Not for just a year,
But Always.

Dreams will all come true
Growing old with you,
And time will fly,
Loving each day more
Than the day before,
As time goes by.
Then, when the springtime has gone,
Then will my love linger on.

I'll be loving you Always ...

And Ellen died in 1988. Irving died the following year, at age 101.


Genie

PS,
I'm writing this from memory (based on several sources, especially the PBS biography of Irving Berlin from a decade or so ago). If I've goofed on any details, please correct me.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: masato sakurai
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 12:32 AM

One more:

The Wayne King Orchestra with Earl Randall


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: masato sakurai
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 09:50 PM

These artists' recordings are at JD Hay's Crooners Collection, in addition to Sinatra's:

Rosemary Clooney

Crystal Gayle

Deanna Durbin

Billy Eckstine and Sarah Vaughn, with verse.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: Snuffy
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 08:56 PM

Try here Always. Writtten by Irving Berlin & sung by Sinatra


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Subject: Lyr Req: I'll Be Loving You Always....with a love
From: singout
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 08:37 PM

It's an old song. I think my mom sent it to me in a dream recently (after she passed away). Anyway, the parts I can remember are "I'll be loving you, always, with a love that's true, always. Not for just an hour, not for just a day, not for just a year, but always. This is a good request for Joe! I've searched with no luck.

Thanks much.
Penny


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