BS: What will they call this decade?

Subject: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:19 PM

Or will they call it anything at all? Was there a name for the decade of 1900-1909? If there was, I never heard of it.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:20 PM

It is ofetn referred to as "those ten years".

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: number 6
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:23 PM

They'll call these years the 'Bush Years'

siX

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:25 PM

1900-1909?

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:28 PM

Yes, that's what I said. What did they call those years? It might serve as a guide to what they may call the years 2000-2009. And what did they call the years 1910-1919? You never hear about anything except the Roaring 20's, the Dirty 30's, the 40's, the 50's, the 60's, the 70's, the 80's, and the 90's.

So what does that make this decade?

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:30 PM

The noughties?

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:30 PM

Aha! Good one.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:30 PM

Whoa! You mean, like the sixties were called the "sixties" because they all happened between 1960 and 1969? Are you sure? Like, all of 'em? I could have sworn a couple of 'em happened in 1974.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: number 6
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:31 PM

1900 - 1910 ... the turn of the century.

1910 - 1919 ... no one really remembers or cares anymore

2000 - 2010 ... the turn of the century part II (the saga continues)

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:43 PM

1914-1918 World War 1.
Lest We Forget

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:45 PM

I'll go with Number 6
The Bush Years.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: number 6
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:45 PM

Unfortuanately Beer ... they are being forgotten.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 09:54 PM

How true

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 11:44 PM

I've heard the years from 1910-1920 referred to as the 'teens'.

I worry that these current years will be referred to as the "First 10 Bush Years".

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 02:09 AM

What will they call this decade?

A waste of time.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 03:29 AM

Call back in 2010. I think that, the way things are going, we'll be doing well if there's anyone around to call this decade anything at all. What sound do cockroaches make?

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: John O'L
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 03:38 AM

1900 - 1910....The turn of the century

2000 - 2010....The return of the century

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 04:40 AM

drunk in charge of a siecle

the early days of the cenury

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: David C. Carter
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 05:35 AM

2000-2010......It's Too Oily to say yet.
2000-2010......The Bad Oil days.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: gnu
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 06:18 AM

The ought-not-have-been's?

The decade that flu by?

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Mr Red
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 07:56 AM

ought as in Lacashire/Cheshire -

I like the noughties but if yer want alliteration how about (given Tsunamis, 911, 7/7 etc)

the Notorious Noughties

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Feb 06 - 11:53 PM

This decade will be called the "Ohs".

2000 will be called "Oh hell!"

2001 will be called "Oh shit!"

2002 will be called "Oh for God's sake!"

2003 will be called "Oh fuck me blind!"

2004 will be called "Oh double hell!"

2005 will be called "Oh those scum-sucking bastards!"

2006 will be called "Oh the Camptown ladies sing this song, 'Doo-dah, doo-dah'."

What 2007, 2008 and 2009 will be called cannot be known yet. At least not here, in this Universe, in this set of three dimensions plus time. Sure, the Tralfamadorians know. You wanna find a Tralfamadorian and ask him, go right ahead.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Jeanie
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 03:48 AM

Setting aside whatever title is going to be given to the ten years which characterize the events, I think the decade should be called "the two thousands" - just as 1900-1910 are referred to as "the nineteen hundreds".

For some reason, it really bugs me that people are calling the years in this decade "Two thousand and five, two thousand and six" etc. and not "twenty o five", "twenty o six" (as we refer to 1905 "nineteen o five"). I will let people get away with it until 2009 because, admittedly, people also did refer to 1905 etc. as "nineteen hundred and five" etc., but once we reach 2010 I will be very cross whenever I hear people saying "two thousand and ten" and not "twenty ten" - so be warned !

- jeanie ;)

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: autolycus
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 04:42 PM

I'm nearly with you Jeanie.

I get slightly irritated by, e.g."two thousand and five" instead of "twenty-oh-five". That's to be consistent with eighteen-oh-five and nineteen-oh-five".

To be further consistent, this should be the "twenty hundreds", consistent with the "eighteen-hundreds" and "nineteen-hundreds" (even tho' those were often regarded as synonyms for the 19th century and 20th century respectively.)

However, I stand by a 2-page article I wrote for a local mag. here in beautiful downtown Norwich. The article implies that the first decade this century runs 2001-2010, and it lays out in great deal why the first day of the current century was 1st January 2001.

So my vote is for the twenty-hundreds. Anyone whi disagrees....














has a different opinion.   Clearly.

If anyone wants any arguments for 1.1.2001 being the century's first day, I'll be happy to oblige, tho' there may be a delay 'cos I've been having occasional probs. getting on site.

   Auto.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Bert
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 04:48 PM

1900 to 1909 were the prelude to WWI

2000 to 2009 are the prelude to WWIII if Bush has his way. Cheney can't even wait to get started, he's already shooting people.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 05:04 PM

I hope you're remembering that "zero" was beyond a Roman's comprehension, Autolycus.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 05:12 PM

Forgot the real reason I was posting. Jeannie, he BBC World Service has been using the "twenty-o-five" format for at least three years. But for once Auntie is not consistent across the rest of her output.

If we are to be ruled by precedent, we really need to know how the decade 1000-1010 (sorry Autolycus) was styled. Without that information I'd settle for the noughties for where we are now - already widely adopted by "cooler" broadcasters - and the teenies for the decade that follows.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 05:50 PM

The Pre-war decade?

If there's anyone left to remember

- and if it takes that long to get going.

John

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 05:50 PM

I don't know what is was called in the rest of the world, but here in the UK 1900 – 1910 was known as the Edwardian period – even though England had had six King Edwards before that and one since.


DC

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: gnu
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 05:59 PM

The Bush Period? Lots of blood.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: GUEST,Robin Madge
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 06:00 PM

We said "nineteen-sixty" because it was a contraction of "nineteen-hundred and sixty",
Since when has "twenty" been a contraction of "two-thousand"?

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 08:50 AM

The kidney stone decade

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Snuffy
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 09:23 AM

Robin - Since when has "twenty" been a contraction of "two-thousand"? . For about as long as "nineteen" has been a contraction of "one thousand nine hundred".

Autolycus - as for "the century" starting in 2001 not 2000. Who says they all have to be the same length? If you can accept a year as being 365 or 366 days, and a month as having anything from 28 to 31 days, why could not the 1st century be deemed to have had only 99 years (reverse of a leap-century), so that every subsequent one started on 01-01-00.

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Amos
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 10:02 AM

The Imperialist Era of American history is said by some to have started in th enineteenth century, but it was never as ramapnt, as gruesomely abrasive or as flagrantly at odds with the notional principles of the nation as it became in the first decade of the 21st. Eith the decline of the Me generation and the aging of the flower children, the ugliest remnants of reactionary right-wingery rose to power in a once fair land and, clouding their actions with anendless and well-orchestrated spew of media noise, proceeded to set the nation on a path of imperialist elitism and wealth-driven oligarchy that exceeded any prior similar excesses in its history by orders of magnitude.

These trends date roughly to the advent of a movie actor to the Presidency, but in common parlance the expression "the Imperialist decade" is limited to the first ten years of the 21st century.

Jacobus E. Rudight, Ph. D
Cleaning Up After Bad Children -- A Short History of the Imperialist Decade

Wosgrave, Chin, Duprani and Kolowitz, pubs.
Bejing, 2103

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: robomatic
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 10:58 AM

The zips.
The oh oh's.
The uh oh's.
The War Against Terrorism (Part I).
The nulls.

In the Patrick O'Brian series, the characters (in the eighteen teens) refer to, for instance, 1805 as "The Year Five".

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: autolycus
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 04:04 AM

Peter K.(Fionn) Exactly. "Zero" was unknown as a number in Europe till around 1200, whereas our calendar was devised in the, I think, 7th century, no, just looked it up, 6th century, by Dionysius Exiguus.

Therefore he would have begun with 1A.D.(just as we start each month with the 1st. We don't have the 0th January etc.)

Because.,Snuffy, whereas "month" and "year" are not defined in terms of a single number, "decade" and "century" are.

Robin, that's a nice try at sleight-of-hand. "Twenty" is not a contraction of "two thousand", which you're trying to palm off on us, but of "twenty hundred", logically following the sequence "seventeen hundred", "eighteen hundred", "nineteen hundred".

And note in Doug's reference to 1900-1910, tho' you don't call it a decade, Doug, some might. However, if you count each year of 1900-1910, lo and behold, you get eleven. And THAT is exactly the kind of usage that contributes to the muddle which ends with the error of calling 2000 the first year of the new century.


Auto.(Ivor)

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 04:23 AM

And note in Doug's reference to 1900-1910, tho' you don't call it a decade, Doug, some might. However, if you count each year of 1900-1910, lo and behold, you get eleven.

You only get eleven if you go from 1st January 1900 to 31st December 1910. If you pick a time and date in 1900 and go to the same time and date in 1910,

e.g. 4.30 a.m. EST, 18th February 1900 to 4.30 a.m. EST, 18th February 1910

then it's a decade.


DC

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 04:48 AM

If I had bothered to check up, I would have written that the Edwardian period was 1901 – 1910 rather than the dates I posted.

Queen Victoria died on 22nd January 1901 and Edward VII died on 6th May 1910. Although his coronation wasn't until 1902, I'm sure we have to count right from the death of the previous monarch. This gives the Edwardian period as 10 years and a few months, which is close enough to a decade for me.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 05:00 AM

No it's not!    ........ it's only nine years and a few months. I'll still accept it as a decade even if it's not strictly correct.

The point is, the first decade of the twentieth century was known by a name associated with something other than a clumsy attempt to identify the years themselves. I think we will probably end up with something similar this century.


DC

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 06:09 AM

AND ANOTHER THING

the start of the millenium at 00:00 Jan 1st 2001 is a given.
the noughties start with any date bearing a year with a 0 in the second most significant digit in it and end with it, which makes Dec 31st 2009 the last day of the noughties.

All very obvious but let it be stated the noughties bear scant linkage to the century - and overlap, the confusion only arises when people mistakenly say the "the first decade of this century". Without the word "century" - there is no problem.

Just an afterthought - but "nasty noughties" (or "nasty nulls" yuk) are easier to say having less syllables. Which is how contractions work. Such things are contradictions, so only time will tell.

"Terrible Teens" is sure to be the front runner for the next decade unless they are vibrant then ...............

suggestions?

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:44 PM

"The Fraught Oughts"?

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: *Laura*
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 12:09 PM

The Last Decade

(If things continue as they are now)

xLx

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: David C. Carter
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 12:36 PM

The Warring Noughties

D

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 11:03 AM

I prefer the Naughties

Subject: RE: BS: What will they call this decade?
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 02:39 PM

well theyre already referring to the coming 2010 winter Olympics in Vancouver/Whistler as Twenty ten. So Id say the 2011 will be twenty eleven etc..
as for this decade I like the 'zeros'.