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Walkaboutsverse

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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest
Date: 08 Jul 06 - 03:13 PM

Please read the question again. I asked whether you would like your neighbours being foreign - you know, a black family living next door, or an Indian family perhaps. I know you've visited many countries, but that is a different thing to multi-culture in your home town.

Your answer please.

I was brought up by two fathers and it did nothing wrong to me. I had two wonderful male role-models in my life. How can that be wrong?!


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Jul 06 - 06:30 AM

I think the U.N. should agree that trying to have a multiple number of cultures living under the one state law will always cause problems. Genuine asylum seekers shoulded be helped, via the U.N., to their nearest safe refuge, and immigration should be regulated/restricted much more strongly. I am NOT saying everybody should do as I've done and repatriate, and, thus, I am NOT against my neighbours being of another race. And I repeat, having travelled and studied humanities/anthropology, I do love the world being multicultural, and am sure that nationalism with travel and fair trade, via a much stronger U.N., is the solution - NOT yet more economic immigration. Finally, the old-fashioned nuclear family is the best way for children to be brought up into society for the reasons already given.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest
Date: 12 Jul 06 - 11:03 AM

Just because you've studied humanities/anthropology doesn't make you a politician or a poet.

A stronger 'international' government capable of limiting the number of cultures in one nation sounds like one step off ethnic cleansing to me.

I seem to recall nationalism, tougher immigration and setting up of 'safe reefuge' camps to hold immigrants was tried in 1930's Germany. Look what happened then. They had poets writing propaganda. Perhaps you should send your book to the NF.

You're as fruity as your "tropical fruit". To write a few 'didactic' (=bloody patronizing) verses doesn't make you God or something.

ps I'd rather have loving parents of the same sex, than a broken hetero family that sticks to your ideals. How can you generalize so?


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 06:35 AM

There are too many "broken hetero" families: I heard one in three in England, a couple of years ago; as I said in poem 209, when people lose their own culture, society suffers. I am against the conquest/imperialism of Nazis, Victorians (concentration camps were used in the Boar War, Hitler admired the Victorians), etc; and I am also against immigtation - with the qualifications I have already made in prose, above, and in walkaboutsverse. Surely what's happened the last few years/days should make people question immigration, and the idea that a multiple number of cultures can live peacefully under the one state law - the law, the land, the people, the culture should be linked, and this can only occur when everyone/the U.N. agrees that immigration is NOT good for humanity. A stronger U.N., travel and fair-trade ARE good for humanity. This IS a different argument from what the Nazis, e.g. had, and it IS the best, most peaceful way for humanity, from now on.
Bye the way, 17/230 from walkaboutsverse are songs/chants - some were written as lyrics, others are lays: poems sung.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 11:02 AM

walkaboutsverse.741.com has been reworked from Word(970kb) to FrontPage(670kb) so is now at least a bit quicker to download.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 03:29 PM

Concentration camps were used as internment camps to protect against guerrilla warfare, by the British + Spanish & Americans. When people died there, it was due to illness or starvation through bad management, not by intent, just like the soldiers at the time. Some even got a wage for being there.

Concentration camps for the Germans were specifically designed as death camps. There is a fundamental difference, not just in the numbers that died. I hope you're not a "holocaust doubter" too..

Hitler admired the Victorians? I'm sure a lot of people did! The term refers to an era you know... 1837 to 1901. My personal favorite is Isambard Kingdom Brunel... Was he Hitler's favorite too? Or did he just like Otto von Bismarck?

That's just great you know about the broken families in the world. All those kids need foster parents, an there are plenty of loving same-sex couples ready to help out like mine. Thank God there's hope for the children now! Like there's hope that you can use FrontPage. Even chimps can play pacman... lol!

I'm off to write a poem, so I can be just as 'qualified' as you are! :-) Perhaps I'll write one about UN corruption leading to global collapse............


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 05:22 AM

Surely you agree that, at least in principle, the U.N. is a good idea.
I don't like the ad's etc. where "chimps" etc. perform human tasks - I find them cruel.
I don't doubt the atrocities commited (by both sides) during, before and after World War 2.
Plus, I try not to be ethnocentric and, rather, see and say it how it is/was.
Finally, surely you agree that democracy is better when people are informed - and that that's one of the positives of the web and it's sites.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest
Date: 18 Jul 06 - 05:49 AM

The UN is a good idea? Don't we have our own governments to sort out foreign and domestic issues for us??? I'd prefer to focus on that!

At least we agree that Chimps are cruel! Yes, I find them nasty little things sometimes. With Dolphins and humans they are one of the 3 species of animal capable of rape and wanton violence against each-other.

Good you're trying not to be 'ethnocentric' however how can you be didactic at the same time? How can you preach something yet not view things from 'our' standpoint? Democracy is good, yes, so which of your poems keeps me positively informed for the next election. Your poem 75 isn't exactly helpful is it?

Your site still takes ages to download and looks terrible. What are those black frame things that mess up the beginning for?


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Jul 06 - 06:00 AM

Things were a bit different between Word and FrontPage, and the "spine" was being pushed out-of-whack (as I feel are some of your comments) by the different ad's we have to put up with if we want a free site. However, it was okay when I just tried it on a library computer, and it took less than 10 seconds.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest
Date: 20 Jul 06 - 08:57 AM

Which comments are out-of-whack? Are you the only allowed to express yourself over the internet? Sorry! Didn't know you had an elitist little club going on here...

The trouble is, you're free to spam the world with bad poetry, bad HTML (you obviously don't even know what that means) and you don't even pay £3.50 a month to give people the decency of your OWN website... All this from a library where you're probably surfing the web for free too!

It's not even your apparent lack of singing talents (ho ho) that annoy the most, it's that you're freeloading and spamming at the same time AND saying that others' comments aren't valid.

When's your next gig so we can 'boo' you off stage?!


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 20 Jul 06 - 10:51 AM

With a free provider, my free poetry/folk site should still be there for others, regardless of what happens to me, or my credit card. Html is what I reduced from reworking my site from Word to FrontPage. Further, in among the booing, some have liked my verses - e.g. when I read out Following the Sun (113) at a folk club.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest again
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 07:49 AM

Your WWW naivety is almost touching, but the reality is most websites disappear after a couple of years and that's a fact. Just cause you have a free site, doesn't mean it'll be around after you snuff it. If you don't log in for a set period, they disappear automatically.

Just as well you've published a 'book'! That means at least an unlucky Oxfam shopper will find a copy in amongst the 'Mills and Boon' section in 2017.

HTML is what holds the web together. The idea that you can just delete it to make your site work better is demented.

You're demented.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Dave (Bridge)
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 04:59 PM

Why is this thread being allowed to continue?
It is so boring as is the subject


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jul 06 - 09:05 AM

So, if no corrections are needed to a site, they "disappear after a couple of years." I'll keep that in mind, but I doubt it.
To Dave (Bridge): I don't have a counter on my website, and therefore can't tell what the numbers are like - as we can easily at someone's folk club, e.g.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 06 - 06:22 AM

For what it's worth, the problem with the "spine" of the "book" on my site has been fixed by redoing it as a table, instead of with lines; and I'm off this Saturday morning to the Durham Folk Party to see some English Dance, plus hear and sing some English Songs.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Aug 06 - 09:55 AM

It was a good day: quality plus attendance were good, and the selection was mostly Englsih, with 1 or 2 guests. Thus, foreign tourists in Durham that day were able to sample some proper, living Englsih culture, for a change. Just one criticism - the evening dance should have been an English Country/Barn Dance NOT a ceilidh (Scottish informal dance gathering).


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 05:33 AM

For the same reasoning, bye the way, I didn't enjoy the BBC radio "highlights" of The Cambridge "Folk" Festival.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 11:05 AM

Attended the Durham Gathering on Saturday where, unlike the Durham Folk Party, above, the ratio of local:exotic Folkworks was not good; then tuned-in to Northern Folk on Sunday and, again, heard a majority of foreign folk music. However, what English music and dance I did hear and see over the weekend was most enjoyable and of good quality -the problem is one of SELECTION; i.e., as a well-meaning repatriate, I find modern-English badly under-impressed by our own good culture/traditions.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 04:21 PM

Who cares what you think?


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 08:27 AM

On average, i.e. - some still know who they are.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 06:03 AM

Land's End to John o' Groats, e.g.

At the bold age of twenty-one
(Via Hong Kong, China, Macau)
I flew from Sydney to London -
Land's End to John o' Groats my vow...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 05:07 AM

I took a train out of London,
Found a highway and thumbed a ride...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 05:35 AM

what? you're going to start ANOTHER one line by line on this thread...

Take your awful poetry and your dodgy political leanings elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 05:47 AM

It's actually a poem come song or a "lay".
My "learnings" actually derive from 4 technical certificates, a degree in humanities (majoring in anthropology, with distinctions) and shoe-string travel through about 40 countries. And, on another thread, someone did say - why don't you give us an example so we can decide whether we should bother checking the site.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 07:11 AM

It's "leanings" not "learnings"!


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 05:42 AM

OK, well I'm asking you now - can you stop giving examples, we've made up our minds.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 11:00 AM

Leanings/learnings - almost the same entity, in this case, I'd say. And, no (a few have said they like my verses) - I headed down toward Brighton...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: Dave Earl
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 11:40 AM

"I headed down toward Brighton..."

I hope I was out of town - thats where I live.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 02:04 AM

it is not at strength anymore.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 05:33 PM

"(a few have said they like my verses)..."

Where? Show me a point on one of the forums you have started to post on where ANYONE indicated they like you posting your verse. Even if you did have any talent as a poet, do you really think that posting a few lines at a time on a public forum is a good way to showcase your work?

You are a nuisance.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 05:53 AM

I'd have to mention a rival forum or somone who sent me an email - but how can someone with 4 technical certificates and a degree in humanities be that bad at writing/performing his "travels and conclusions in verse." Now - from Breton Cap's Brighton -
Then hitch-hiked roads the coast beside

On the face of my shoulder bag
A sketched map of Aus. was my tag...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 04:44 PM

"I'd have to mention a rival forum or somone who sent me an email"

So you admit that nobody on this forum has said they like you posting your verse here. Please stop.

"how can someone with 4 technical certificates and a degree in humanities be that bad at writing/performing his "travels and conclusions in verse.""

You have greatly misunderstood the nature of creativity I think.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Dave (Bridge)
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 06:08 AM

If people ignored this thread it would probably go away, like turning the telly off if you do not like something


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Guest Lizzie 'cookieless' Cornish.... ;0)
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 08:03 AM

Gee Whizz! Why are there so many unpleasant comments on this thread?

If you don't like David's poetry or what he's doing, then don't come in, it's not compulsory.

You carry on David....

I like that bit about schools and how they use 'stars as carrots' to dangle in front of children to get them to read.....

But then hey...we home-educate so my kids read purely because they want to and they love to....

I'll read some more of your poems when I have time David.....meanwhile, for all the Moaning Minnies, and anyone who may be interested....here is the link to David's site:

http://walkaboutsverse.741.com/


Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: JamesHenry
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 09:40 AM

David presumably posted this thread to generate some sort of reaction. The fact that some people perceive it as unmitigated drivel is their entitled opinion.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Dan
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 10:49 AM

To be honest, the quality of the verse isn't even the point here. Its the blatantly far-right theme of a lot of it.

I'm all for free speech, but I don't think this stuff should go unchallenged, and so ignoring is not an option.

Thats what bothers me.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 06:42 AM

Thanks Lizzie - I still feel there's no harm in making others aware of my free site.
To Dan - how can I be "far-right" if I've at least tried to defend the land rights of Aborigines, Massai and others, and have repeatedly questioned capitalism in my collection.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 07 Sep 06 - 05:20 AM

For said a Scot who'd hitched Europe:
"Some emblem may well boost your hope"...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 07:06 AM

And drivers throughout the island,
Over a two month riding span...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Sep 06 - 06:38 AM

Were the kindest folks I have met...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 10:07 AM

I swear not once did I get wet!...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 16 Sep 06 - 06:53 AM

After viewing rugged Land's End...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 19 Sep 06 - 08:58 AM

I began the long journey north...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 21 Sep 06 - 09:23 AM

North-east, rather, before a bend...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 21 Sep 06 - 09:55 AM

Suddenly I was at the journey's end!

Ta Da!


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: JamesHenry
Date: 21 Sep 06 - 11:19 AM

Not quite, methinks, my friend.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 23 Sep 06 - 05:35 AM

No - nice try (we're on the alternate-rhyme part of the lay):
Somewhere in a bit from Bournmouth...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 06:32 AM

On the way I saw relatives...


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: Amos
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 09:13 AM

Who fled on sight claiming dental appointments.


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Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 10:49 AM

No Amos:
Who'm after leaving I did miss...


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