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Subject: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions? From: GUEST,saulgoldie Date: 09 Apr 06 - 09:06 AM I remember reading this, and I thought it was here on Mudcat. "They" assembled ten thinkers and asked them for their predictions for the "end of the world" scenarios. I have browsed the archives on every word I could think of, but none turned up what I was looking for. Anyone remember it? Perahaps it came from one of the listsrvs I get. I can't remember anymore. But I sherwood appreciate it if someone knows where it is. TIA. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Rapparee Date: 09 Apr 06 - 10:41 AM Saul, I was thinking about starting a thread about end-of-the-world predications. I'll add some later today if I can. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: GUEST,saulgoldie Date: 09 Apr 06 - 11:00 AM Thanks, Rapaire. I remember a couple of them. They are pretty obvious. One is nuclear war, one is disease, one is climate change. Another one was Earth being hit by an asteroid. The piece was interesting food for thought. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Donuel Date: 09 Apr 06 - 12:26 PM http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/4886272.stm |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Rapparee Date: 09 Apr 06 - 12:50 PM Six Potential EOW Scenarios, courtesy of Nature: 1. Killer comets and/or asteroids 2. Supervolcanoes (e.g., Yellowstone Caldera) 3. Supermassive black holes 4. Climate shift 5. Magnetic pole-swapping 6. Gamma ray bursts from nearby site (say, 3,000 light years) Six Potential EOW Scenarios, courtesy of Science: 1. High energy physics creates stranglets 2. Uncontrollable nanobots 3. Super plague 4. Genetically enhanced class warfare 5. Artificial intelligence runs amok 6. Good ol' nuclear armageddon Here's some past predictions about the End of the World (including The Rapture, etc.). If you want more info you can investigate them yourself. ca. 1750 BC, Persia: Zoroaster. 634 BC, Rome: twelve eagles indicate that Rome will fall some. 389 BC, Rome: maybe this was the date indicated by the eagles, above. 167 BC, Babylon: Book of Daniel. AD 70, Jerusalem: Rome sacks Temple AD 90, Patmos: John writes the Book of Revelation. AD 156, Phrygia: Montanus says New Jerusalem will drop down on Pepuza. (all the dates hereafter are CE or AD, as you prefer) 365, Gaul: Hilary of Poiters schedules the EOW for this year. 500: Sextus Julius Africanus and other predict Jesus will show. Jesus doesn't. April 6, 793, Spain: Beatus, a priest, says this is Der Tag. 950, France: Adso of Montiers predicts the End. 968, Europe: Major eclipse causes major panic. 989, Europe: Halley's comet. January 1, 1000, Rome: Not much panic, except among literate clerics. 1033: It's a thousand years since Jesus was killed. No EOW yet. 1186, Spain: John of Toledo predicts EOW because of a planet line-up. 1260, Italy: Joachim of Fiore reschedules EOW for 1290. 1346, Europe: Black Death. 1420, Czech Republic: Taborites. 1504, Italy: Botticelli blows his prediction. February 1, 1524, London: Astrologers predict world-wide flood, reschedules for 1624. 1525, Germany: Thomas Muentzer. 1535, Germany: Jan Matthys. 1537, France: Pierre Turrell says EOW this year, or in 1544, 1801, or 1814. April 28, 1583, London: Astrologers say no flood, but a big wind. 1600, Germany: Luther says that this is Der Jahr. 1603, Italy: Tomasso Campanella says sun will collide with earth. Galileo declines to get involved. 1650, England: James Ussher says, "2000." 1666, England: Brits nervous (Great Fire, etc.); Shabbetai Tzevi. Autumn, 1694, America: Johann Jacob Zimmerman May 19, 1719, Switzerland: Jakob Bernoulli says this is the day. 1736, America: Cotton Mather blows it again, just as in 1697 and 1716. 1776, Boston: George III is the Antichrist. 1792, New York: Mother Ann Lee. 1809, England: Mary Bateman. 1830, New England: Joseph Smith. 1844, New England: William Miller. 1863, England: John Wroe. 1874, Pennsylvania: Charles Taze Russell 1900, Brazil: Antonio Conselheiro. November 13, 1900, Russia: Brothers and Sisters of the Red Death. 1908, Pennsylvania: Lee T. Spangler. 1914, Oklahoma: Halley's Comet is back. Charles Taze Russell again. 1915: C. T. Russell. 1916: C. T. Russell (who dies on Halloween). 1918: C. T. Russell had said, before he died, "Really, folks. 1918.) 1920: J. F. Rutherford. 1925: J. F. Rutherford. February 13, 1925, Long Island: Margaret Rowan and Robert Reidt. 1936, America: Herbert W. Armstrong mistakes 1936 for 1975. 1947, Boston: Oahspe Bible (1889) says "Yup. 1947." 1949: Young Billy Graham says we only have maybe a couple years left. December 21, 1954, American Midwest: Dorothy Martin, a.k.a. Marian Keech and the Brotherhood of the Seven Rays. April 16-23, 1957, California: Mihran Ask. April 22, 1959, Waco, Texas: Victor Houteff says, "Here we are!" February 4, 1962: five-planetary alignment. 1965-1968: Elijah Muhammed. 1967: Sun Myung Moon. 1969, California: Charles Manson. 1970: Hal Lindsey 1974, Indiana: Charles Meade & End Time Ministries. 1975: John Knorr, Charles Taylor (who says 1976, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 and 1989 as well). 1977: Salem Kirban. 1980: Ronald Reagan, James Watt, Caspar Weinberger, etc. December 21, 1981: Hal Lindsey again. 1982: Jupiter Effect; Pat Robertson predicts. 1985: Lester Sumrall. April 29, 1987: Dr. Leland Jensen. August 16 & 17, 1987: Jose Arguelles and the Great Harmonic Convergence. 1988, Canada: Alfred Schmielewski (a.k.a Maha Yogi A. A. Narayana). September 11-13, 1988: Edgar C. Whisenant. Or maybe it's on the 15th. Or October 3. Or maybe in 1989. April 23, 1990: Elizabeth Clare Prophet, a.k.a. Guru Ma. 1991: Louis Farrakhan. 1992: Lori Adaile Toye and the Ascended Masters. October 28, 1992, Korea: Bang-Ik Ha, Lee Jang Rim. 1993: Benny Hinn. July 25, 1994: "Sister" Marie Gabriel Paprocski. December 17, 1996: Sheldon Nidle & the Galactic Federation of Light. March 26, 1997: Marshall Herff Applewhite and Bonnie Lu Nettles & Heaven's Gate. October 1997, St. Louis: Kenneth Hagin. 1998: Henry R. Hall & his book. March 31, 1998, Garland, Texas: Hon-Ming Chen, a.k.a. Chen Tau. July, 1999: Nostradamus said that is is Doomsday. August 11-18, 1999: Planetary flybys, "Grand Cross", Amazing Criswell.... 2000: Well, you know.... March 24, 2002, Hollywood: Paul Smirnov 2004: Mike Drosnin & the Bible Code (again). October 17, 2004: Clay Cantrell. All of these and more in Jason Boyett, Pocket Guide to the Apocalypse (Relevant Books, 2005) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: GUEST,M.Ted Date: 09 Apr 06 - 04:32 PM The true end of the world will come when we realize that it never existed in the first place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Apr 06 - 05:05 PM Ha! Good one, Ted. My, my...so much to worry about. ;-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Bunnahabhain Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:51 PM 1. Sir Johns curries get out of control. 2. M.G. becomes president! 3.The T-Shirts are right. Jesus was coming, and we weren't looking busy enough. 4. The folks from Proxima Centuari Beta loose too much on the 30-1 outsider at Newmarket, and get uncovered. 5. Quark! Quark! ( see moab for explaination) 6. Time decides to run backwards for spme uknow reason, therefore duplicating the above, so I don't need to think of any more... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Bert Date: 09 Apr 06 - 07:36 PM ...ten thinkers... The end is already being hastened by a NON thinker in the White House. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: GUEST,Western Observer Date: 09 Apr 06 - 07:43 PM Hamsters will reproduce at an unprecented rate and take over the world. We will then all die under a squirming mass of little brown bodies and beady eyes! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:30 PM 1: Destruction of power grids by unusually strong weather systems will cause massive power disruptions affecting economic growth in several countries. 2: Drug resistant disease and bacteria outbreaks will follow the bad weather rapidly overwhelming medical services causing massive social unrest. 3: Earthquake and Tsunami and Volcanic eruptions will increase in frequency and effect. 4: Nuclear, Chemical and Biological warfare devices will be used by terrorist organizations, including accidents involving nuclear reactors. 5: Massive migration by starving and drought stricken refugees will affect the world economies and precipitate widespread spreading of disease and pestilence 6: Large Asteroid/Meteorite will strike the earth. 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 will all be variations of the above themes |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Severn Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:39 PM No, W.O., we'll die from being out of shape when they make US run on huge treadmills and wheels. Revenge is sweet! The Catholics and Chinese will try in vain to keep pace with the little buggers, though.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:42 PM Hamster World!!! Sounds like a new Kevin Costner movie idea... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Peace Date: 09 Apr 06 - 09:55 PM These might be what yer lookin' for, Saul. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: GUEST,saulgoldie Date: 10 Apr 06 - 02:46 PM Yeah, Peace. That's the one. Thanks so much! Of course, the thread may continue on its own steam. But I have what I was looking for. Saul |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Les in Chorlton Date: 11 Apr 06 - 12:54 PM It is a strange expression "The end of the World". I guess what we really mean is the death of most people and the collapse of industrial and agricultural societies perhaps leaving a small number to return to hunting and gathering. All we need is accelerated global warming leading to sea rise and the swamping of farm land and a failuer to deal with the AIDS pandemic and we will be gone. We might return to agriculture and later metals and so on but maybe not. The planet, its plants and creatures will continue to evolve without us for around 4 billion years when the sun explodes and fries the lot! Still time? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Bunnahabhain Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:06 PM Well, some are the end of humans, some the end of the whole world, and some, and some the end of civilisation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Bill D Date: 11 Apr 06 - 02:31 PM "When in danger or in doubt, Run in circles - scream and shout" Most of those are not something *I* can do anything about....I'm rather tired of TV programs using the volcano/meteorite types to raise the general stress level. They largely ignore the human-controllable situations...not PC. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Rapparee Date: 11 Apr 06 - 02:42 PM Why, I'm going up to Yellowstone this weekend and stick a cork in that caldera thing! Then I'll be safe! Waddaya mean, I can't do anything about it? Pro-active, that's me! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: frogprince Date: 11 Apr 06 - 03:22 PM "The planet, its plants and creatures will continue to evolve without us for around 4 billion years when the sun explodes and fries the lot!" How can anyone today have so little spiritual discernment that, with the Bible and their newspaper and newscasts available, they don't realize that none of those longer-term auctions on E-Bay have a chance of winding up before the rapture? (Me, sarcastic or jaded with this stuff? of course not). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: GUEST,M.Ted Date: 11 Apr 06 - 03:27 PM I am mildly amused by the thought that a Super Volcano underneath Yellowstone Park could wreak untold destruction at any moment, simply because my ex-wife lives in that area, and she always refused to go to California because of the whole "falling into the ocean" thing-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister Date: 11 Apr 06 - 03:33 PM Just a thought - why don't we hook up all the obese people onto treadmills and pay them to generate electricity while they get thin and fit, saving future problems for the health services at the same time? ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Bunnahabhain Date: 12 Apr 06 - 07:10 AM Well if you're going to do that, start with turning every tobacco plantation over to growing something useful. All sounds like a good reason to terraform Mars, sharpish. No earthquakes or volcanoes there... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Rapparee Date: 12 Apr 06 - 08:25 AM Not anymore, no. But Mars is just a seed waiting to sprout again. I know this because L'ThrdL 6, who lives in the city under Mons Veneris on Mars, told me. L'ThrdL 6 is a reincarnation of the last last Atlantean High Priestess and knows all about Earth and Mars and is in constant contact with the Eldritch Ones. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Teribus Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:21 AM Potential EOW Scenario, courtesy of Nature: 5. Magnetic pole-swapping ? No effect whatsoever, the poles just swap and the Earth's magnetic field gets more complicated for a while. It still provides the Earth with the same degree of protection. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Rapparee Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:45 AM Except, of course, for fish and bird navigation -- not to mention the effect on compasses. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Bert Date: 12 Apr 06 - 01:00 PM Why don't you shut up Wyrd Sister and pray that you don't get PCOS. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Peace Date: 12 Apr 06 - 01:12 PM Is also known as Stein-Leventhal Syndrome or Polycystic Ovary Disease (PCOD). Affects an estimated 6-10% of all women and most don't even know they have it. Is treatable, but not curable, by medications, changes in diet and exercise. Is one of the leading causes of infertility in women. Has been identified for 75 years and they still aren't sure what causes it. Affects far more than just reproduction. IT IS NOT just a cosmetic problem. Can include the following symptoms: Irregular or absent menses Numerous cysts on the ovaries in many, but not all, cases High blood pressure Acne Elevated insulin levels, Insulin Resistance, or Diabetes Infertility Excess hair on the face and body Thinning of the scalp hair (alopecia) Weight Problems or obesity that is centered around your mid section |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Windsinger Date: 12 Apr 06 - 02:03 PM Saul, Now that you've found the link you were looking for...this one is pretty entertaining as well: How to destroy the Earth (Take notes, James Bond villains and aspiring Mad Scientists.) Slán, ~Fionn www.geocities.com/children_of_lir |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Teribus Date: 12 Apr 06 - 02:08 PM They have survived such instances in the past. Magnetic compasses are no longer needed for navigation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Rapparee Date: 12 Apr 06 - 03:37 PM Magnetic compasses are no longer needed for navigation. I am fairly technologically savvy, but that's a load of...codswallop. GPS is fine, until your batteries fail or you drop the unit and break it. But I'll tell you what I'll do: I'll meet you here or here (along with its Canadian partner) for a three-week-long hike. You bring your GPS and I'll use map and compass. We'll take what we can carry on our backs, no resupply, and we'll walk from one point to another. Your choice.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ten Doomsday Predictions From: Bunnahabhain Date: 12 Apr 06 - 06:50 PM Well, when the poles flip, the magnetic field of the planet weaken. The two effects of this we can concern ourselves with are most of our electrical devices becoming very unreliable, and more radiation from space reaching the surface. |