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BS: anger - addictive?

Big Mick 10 Dec 06 - 02:32 PM
GUEST 10 Dec 06 - 02:27 PM
GUEST,memyself 10 Dec 06 - 02:07 PM
GUEST 10 Dec 06 - 01:39 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 02:32 PM

Actually, sweetie pie, Rick was a close personal friend. He had done it once, and just wondered if I had.

That reference to apology is interesting coming from you. I believe that if you check, you will find any number of times that I have apolgized when I felt as though I should. I would bet you have yet to do the same.

OK, I have had enough fun for this thread. Please carry on without me.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 02:27 PM

In order to "reveal one's true colors" one first has to be trying to conceal them, no?

See here is the thing. The identity game is something you eejits give a shit about, not me.

It is obvious the label "guest, memyself" is being used by more than one person.

That is an MO of a few notorious Mudcat members, who routinely use several guest identities to attack people they dislike. This game has been going on since before even I arrived on the scene, and will continue even after "members only" posting is initiated (if it ever is).

There is also a reason why Mick Lane invokes the most beloved Mudcat member of all time, who is, conveniently for Mick in this case, unable to speak for himself.

Rick Fielding suspected Mick Lane of playing the much beloved Mudcat multiple personality game--for a very good reason.

And don't worry, most folks around here always feel like they have to apologize to Mick Lane. That is because he is the biggest bully on the block.

Carry on with your sucking up to yer own bad meself selves now, boys.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 02:07 PM

I feel I have to apologize to Big Mick for his somehow getting dragged into this foolishness, as my supposed alter-ego (or vice-versa - is he my supposed alter-ego?). I had no idea this annoying person has a history of lunacy on this forum or I never would have wasted my time on him/her. Sorry, Mick. Likewise, apologies to "you guest/brucie/peace", and even McGrath, who if I understood this annoying person correctly, was the first one on this thread to have the unenviable distinction - although it doesn't seem to be all that distinct anymore - of being identified as one and the same as (me)myself. (I've got the Holy Trinity beat all to hell - I'm five - no, six - in one!).

Also, apologies to the others on the thread for feeding this confabulation. I should know better at my age. Although I do have to admit, it is amusing to see this annoying person reveal his/her true colours. A little sad, though, when I think about it ...


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:39 PM

Sure boys, the two of you peas in a pod always win in your own minds.

Also in your own minds, you think the Mudcat world is on "your side". Some of us, however, do have the intelligence not to confuse popularity with "Truth".

And there is no doubt Mick Lane will beat me in the beauty contest here at Mudcat. There really are people here who truly admire your ability to bully, belittle, begrudge and show off your tremendous propensity to abuse the power given you by Mad Mudcat Max.

Because that is how small minds think. The Mudcat elite are shining examples of the sort of insecure, petty and vindictive men who have come to rule Max's Mudcat roost.

But not everyone here revels in the chance to suck up to and lick the boots of the bullies in power. More than a few folks have noted the disturbing similarity in behavior of the Mudcat bully elite and Republican neocon bullying.

Peas in a pod.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:33 PM

Poor sick little pup.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:26 PM

No 10:54 I look and leave angry.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:24 PM

Janet, that was a very nice try. Won't work.

First off, a few corrections. You didn't kick anyone's ass on the Memorial Day thread. You just showed yourself for the nasty person you are. You had very little support. And the funny thing about it was that many of your ideas and points had merit. But your nasty and self centered way just turned folks off. Over the years you have become known as a conspiracy nut who uses off the wall cites to make points that everyone can see as loony.

I don't care if you believe me as to the fact that I never post anonymously. I will leave that to the jury of my peers. Especially those that know me. I will let them decide for themselves as to my credibility when I tell you, and them, that I never post anonymously. Rick asked me years ago if I ever did that. I told him nope, and I still don't. I will acknowledge what I say. You should try it some time.

Actually, I agreed with Lepus when he said I needed to back off. I realized that he was right, in that I was pursuing your posts. You see, even though I consider many of his opinions incorrect, I have respect for Lepus. He is always out front, willing to take responsibility for what he says. And so when he said that, I did some examination and found merit in his words.

I don't pursue your posts these days. But I will hold you accountable for the positions you take when I see them. I don't mind telling you and everyone here, that I dislike what you stand for intensely. If I see something I will respond. But when I see someone like Don Firth whipping your butt so very nicely as he has lately, I just read, enjoy, and move on.

By the way, your attempts to use "hot button" issues to elicit anger didn't work. It just shows desperation.

I had no intention of getting in this thread, only spotted it while I was doing a daily "spam" scan. Spam is produced only by GUESTS, so I just scan all GUEST posts to find it. This problem will be solved by members only posting. That will end the problem, and will leave mod's to other more important duties.

So don't get all puffed up over yourself there, kid. I rarely look for your posts these days, and only respond when there is something I think needs responding to.

Have a nice day, sweetie.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:18 PM

And there isn't a bigger bullshitter in this forum than you guest/brucie/peace/memyself


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:17 PM

If bullshit were diamonds we'd all be rich.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Shaneo
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:11 PM

It would seem that a lot of visitors to this board have lots of anger.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 01:04 PM

And how can I tell? Your arrogance, your vindictiveness, and your thin skin when someone dares to challenge your opinions.

Your boorishness is legendary among some of us--and very obvious no matter how hard you deny posting as a guest and try to disguise your identity. Don't worry, I know this isn't a game to you. You are clearly to mentally unstable for this to be a game. Lepus Rex did nail it when he said years ago you have a real stalking problem with me.

You mentioning my posts in the Christmas BLAHs thread proves it once again.

Those of us who see through your phony bravado also know there isn't anyone here at Mudcat willing to prove what it is you are doing.

You are one scary, vindictive dude Mick. That Memorial Day thread where I kicked your ass was how many years ago now? 1999? 2000? Far too long to carry a grudge against someone you claim not to give a shit about, isn't it? A sane, stable person would have let it go years ago.

But not the machismo legend in his own mind, Mick Lane. The man with the disturbing warrior hero delusions--the great defender of the Mudcat membership realm. Master of the sad and pathetic Oirish American Bard persona.

You claim to be all about honor and integrity, but you ain't nothin' of the sort. You are a boorish braggart, with serious anger problems that have long since crossed over from grudge holding to internet stalker behavior.

You have all the power here, no doubt about it. But it doesn't change the fact that you are the one here with anger problems meMickmyself. Serious anger problems. Seek treatment.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 12:50 PM

Sure, Mick. Sure. You aren't stalking me, even though you can name one of the only other threads I've posted to at the drop of a hat "scanning for spam".

Sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 12:45 PM

Nice fishing expedition. Actually, you just show your ignorance, arrogance, and paranoia. You are so sure that there is no correct opinion on any subject but yours that you can't accept that there are many here who see you for the loony, self centered, all mouth-no substance, person that you are.

Let's get one thing straight. I have never logged off and posted as a GUEST. I have posted occasionally as a GUEST when I wasn't at my own computer, but I always ID'ed myself. I have no need to hide my identity and I will always take the credit/blame for my posts. So I reiterate, I have never posted under anything other than my own identity.

So take your bullshit back to the opera, or on one of your trips to Puerto Vallarta. Sip a nice tequila drink and shower the unenlightened with your horseshit about what is wrong with the world. Who knows, they might make you the Sage of the world. In your mind you are there already, so it is but a short leap. Or better yet......crawl back under your rock. Just because you need to hide in multiple identities and act in dishonorable ways, just because you are a deluded, self agrandizing, conspiracy nut, does not mean that the rest of us are.

If you ever need to find me, just look for my name.

I found this post as I was scanning for spam posts, so I guess I will go and read the rest of the thread now. I am sure Ryan Matriot MN Monster will figure prominently in it.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 11:44 AM

And Mick, you may have most of these people fooled, but meMickmyself ain't foolin' me.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 11:28 AM

My, my. Someone with some anger management issues is in need of a long winter's rest.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 11:11 AM

"One poster here has chosen to attack me personally for expressing that opinion."

I would have thought that someone with your self-declared intellectual powers would have understood what was going on better than that. You were "attacked personally" for coming into a thread in which a civil discussion was taking place and firstly pronoucing the topic and by implication everyone who was taking it seriously "stupid", then sneeringly dismissing all the discussion that had taken place to that point as the spouting of "dimestore pop psychology", then in the course of introducing another idea casting aspersions on the intellectual capabilities of the other posters. As for "that opinion", I have little interest in it one way or the other. You're welcome to it.

"easy to goad with a pointed stick": Now there's a skill worthy of such a mighty intellect. Why don't you try spitballs now? Those can be annoying, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,10:04 am
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 10:52 AM

Actually, 10:17 that just makes you a bully.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 10:17 AM

I don't think I'm addicted to anger but I seem to get addicted to doing certain things that I know can make me angry. Against my better judgement or resolve I keep coming back to certain threads or types of thread here for example.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 10:04 AM

Ivor, I noted what you had said the last time you posted to say "I didn't say that". Thank you for pointing out that there are two camps, one that says emotions are not addictive, one that says they are.

Seeing as I'm the only person posting to this thread that has made any attempt to discuss the scientific reasons for emotions not being addictive, doesn't mean I am reading incorrectly what has been written. I just haven't responded to your posts in particular, is all. But I will now. When you say emotions CAN be addictive, you are also saying they ARE addictive. Unless of course, you are claiming that emotions can be addictive but never are actually addictive in practice? No, I didn't think so.

As to the comment that I have "issues"--no, that isn't correct either. I have an opinion. It disagrees with the majority of posters to this thread. One poster here has chosen to attack me personally for expressing that opinion. I would add, that person is particularly gullible and easy to goad with a pointed stick.

I stand my ground, and say emotions and behaviors are not addictive, particular substances are. The belief among so many here that there is a provable causal link between emotions and addiction is just that, a popular belief with nothing to back it up.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: freda underhill
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 07:46 AM

meanwhile, back at the ranch..

in some relationships there can be a dominance game which pulls the partners in power games and emotional manipulation including anger, dominance and physical or emotional violence. These aspects of the relationship are often hidden, which only serves to heighten the control and intensity within the partnership.

In relationships like this anger can be addictive, as is forgiveness, as part of a cycle of experiencing emotional highs and intensity.

- i know a couple who are addicted to drama in their personal lives. they have been together and not together for over 30 years in a very volatile marriage, swinging between rage, grief, joy, delight, blah - they are consciously committed to expressing all emotions to the full, and all their personal relationships are acted out with Shakespearean flair.

They live out their own Bold and the Beautiful, without the facelifts. For them, their roller coaster of intensity can make other parts of life fade into dreary nothingness. Other people seem grey, suppressed, non-living.

When they moved out of their last house, all the neighbours in the street came out and cheered and clapped as the removing van rolled out the drive. They were amused, even proud of this!


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: autolycus
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 06:42 AM

GUEST belongs to the scientific group. There has been a
debate for decades between the scientific and other
paradigms. And the debate is difficult because the
different parties to the debate play by different rules and
think the other side's rules are flawed/wrong/even non-rules.

   One rule that ought to be followed by all is to read or
hear what your opponent has written/heard. In the 1920s,a
Cambridge professor of English,I.A.Richards,gave some of his undergrads. a selection of poems and asked for their criticisms
and responses. The authors of the poems were kept back from the students.

   Out of the responses, Richards identified some simple reading errors rgularly made. And don't forget, the readers were young students of English Lit. at one of the top universities in the world,so ostensibly among the best readers around, yet still
making basic reading errors.

   One of the errors was failing to read what wwas on the page.


   I've written that I've never said that any given emotion IS addictive. What I did write is the emotions CAN be addictive.
GUEST keeps reading
             'emotions can be addictive'

                     as

             'emotions are addictive'.


   I hope everyone can see that those two sentences do not mean
the same thing.






       Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Slag
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 03:37 AM

LH, sounds like passive-agressive payback to me. You might want to explore the possibilty of reconciliaton for your own future well-being. If nothing is there and nothing to be done for it, you will at least have a peace of mind that you rose above it and made an effort to resolve the differences. Or perhaps, and I hope its true, you've already taken that high road.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 10:52 PM

Yep, Elmer, that's it. I saw this in my Dad all the time. As soon as he figured he couldn't control something or someone (usually me) he'd go into a screaming rage. This was pretty frightening when I was a youngster, so he'd get the superficial control he was after, by terrorizing me....but he got it at a terrible price. Once I left home I basically didn't talk to him for years. He was a non-person to me. He'd used up his available credit and goodwill.

So, he got a brief sense of power and dominance and lost a son. Hell of a bad bargain, if you ask me.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 07:22 PM

Oh, my, GUEST, I am sorry. Imagine - what I took to be the braying of an ass was the sound of an intellectual giant expressing his opinions! Well, you just go ahead and express your great, big, giant opinions and I won't torment you anymore.

And if you ever should feel inspired to reveal the relationship between the Cathars and the term "catharsis", I will be all ears (whoops! sorry!). I mean, I will be very interested.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 06:57 PM

I think I grok your meaning, L.H. An adrenaline rush from the rage? Some illusion of power and control?

E.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 06:35 PM

Have not read the thread. No time this evening. Just tought I would stop by and and say, if it hasn't been said already,

Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhh!!!! Yes, sometimes.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 05:53 PM

They get a sort of a charge out of it, Elmer, but their system pays a price for it. Anger is hard on the human system in the long run.

It's not the same kind of addiction as a substance-based addiction. But addiction is not confined only to substance-based habits, in my opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 04:20 PM

"Habit" might be a better word for it. A behavior can become habitual: a knee-jerk reaction to emotional or environmental stimuli. I think that's different from an addiction, which is a disease with biochemical and perhaps genetic components. Someone might need to get angry to alleviate anxiety that's building up inside him or her, but it still strikes me as different from the person who needs a cigarette.

Does a person who constantly gets angry feel relief after blowing up? I doubt it. But you tell me.

Elmer


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,Drop in
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 04:05 PM

Guest has some issues. Humor him.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 03:48 PM

Your window? I don't think so. It's the web, dearie not your living room. If you are bothered by people expressing opinions on the web, you need a new hobby.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 03:20 PM

"You seem all hot and bothered in a very angry sort of way, meself."

Not angry, not hot, a little bothered, the way I would be by the braying of an ass at my window.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 02:34 PM

I've personally known a number of people who were addicted to anger. My father and my grandmother and my mother's friend Helen, for example. Some radio talk shows hosts, obviously. Some newspaper columnists. An addiction is simply an overuse of something which is normal if you don't overuse it. You know a person is addicted to anger when they get angry a lot more frequently than is normal or appropriate, and when that starts to make them ineffective at relating sensibly to other people.

Why do they do it? Because it makes them feel powerful, and it makes them feel righteous, and it makes them feel RIGHT. And that makes them feel "good" (although it makes everyone around them feel like shit...). They also do it because they are afraid that they might not be able to control the situation unless they use their anger to force the issue. They want control.

Addictions are an out-of-balance situation. People who get angry more often than they should and dump it on other people are out of control of themselves. Their efforts to secure control through anger are an instinctive response to their lack of it.

Yes, you can get addicted to many forms of emotional behaviour...and anger is just one of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 02:09 PM

An intellect superior to the rest of you? All of you, no. Many of you, yes.

You seem all hot and bothered in a very angry sort of way, meself. Why not get back on topic to the thread?

An emotion like anger is very complex. And actually, meself's angry reaction to my posts should trigger another observable manifestation of the expression of anger for us all: derision.

Both mine and his. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 01:37 PM

"There is nothing to fear but intellect, right?"

Are you trying to be funny or are you really so hilariously arrogant as to believe yourself in possession of an intellect markedly superior to that of any of the rest of us?

Well, come to think of it, perhaps you are - if so, please give us a demonstration; so far you've done a bang-up job of hiding it.

And please explain the references to Oprah, Psychology Today and Dr Phil - I'm afraid I'm lacking your familiarity with them. And while you're at it, perhaps you can give us the etymology of "catharsis".


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 12:30 PM

OK, here's a few ways of expressing observable anger off the top of me head:

sarcasm

defensive whining

condescension

belligerence

indignation

hostility

stubbornness or intransigence

sneering

Any of the above observable behaviors can be explained as observable manifestations of an angry person.

The study of personality, behavior, and especially of addiction, is nearly all hypothetical--with virtually NO theoretical base right not. Brain research is very much in it's infancy--scientists are still mapping the brain!

Now, it is quite fascinating that MRI has been used to further identify where in the brain things happen under a wide variety of circumstances, it is all still quite baffling and unknowable.

For instance, one part of the brain often associated with emotional expression is the amygdala. However, studies into emotional behaviors of that particular part of the brain are also contradictory, because emotional responses routinely show up also in the hippocampus, pallidum, and caudate nucleus regions of the brain.

While it may be fascinating that some studies done on bipolar disorder in children shows up in the amygdula (just as one example), that doesn't "prove" anything in a scientific sense. At least not yet. Why? Because the difference seems to be the in the stimuli used in the study, not in the anatomy of the brain itself.

So to make these sweeping statements like "anger is addictive" or "love is addictive" is akin to saying "rice pudding is addictive".


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 12:07 PM

Doing your usual bang up job of ignoring us anons, eh McGrath?

Think tone of voice, folks.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 12:04 PM

How many different nameless GUESTS on this thread?


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: Slag
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 11:50 AM

I know MUDCAT is addictive!


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 11:26 AM

I'm curious as to how many observable manifestations of expression of anger people here can name?

And let's get the two most obvious, though least used manifestations of anger out of the way right off the bat: aggression and violence.

OK, other than using aggression and violence, how do human beings express and experience anger in observable ways?


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 11:15 AM

Ah. Another Oprah fan, out of the closet.

There is nothing to fear but intellect, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 11:06 AM

"you do know the Cathars weren't Greek, right?"

Sorry, did I say "dimestore Greek"? I meant "dollarstore erudition".


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 10:18 AM

Please explain how an emotion is addictive?

Something that is scientifically based, please and not that you read about in Psychology Today or saw on Oprah or Dr Phil?


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: autolycus
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 10:12 AM

Just for the record,I,at least, merely said that anger is one thing among many that can become addictive.

   it is a far cry from that to saying that those things ARE addictions. I for one said no such thing.

   

   Any emotions can become addictions. None of them are addictions.


   Hope that's clearer.






       Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 09:55 AM

and memyself, you do know the Cathars weren't Greek, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 09:37 AM

memyself, I'm hardly the only person posting to this thread to note that the "anger is addictive" crap lacks any substantive scientific evidence to back it up.

Like I said, anger is an emotion just like all the other emotions.

Is happiness addictive? Is frustration addictive?

This claim is pure pop psychology. People fear anger, which is what makes it such a powerful emotion. They often fear experiencing their own anger more than experiencing anger expressed by others.

Hence, people project all sorts of negative stuff on the expression of anger. If you do a poll, the vast majority of people would agree with the statement "it is always bad to express anger".

I consider anger a normal emotion, not abnormal. Every human being experiences it on a regular basis.

I'm much more fearful of passive aggressive manipulators who demonize and attempt to suppress peoples' normal and healthy expression of anger--pop psychologists all--than I am of somebody getting pissed off at the grocery store because the clerk is being an ass that day to everyone who asks for assistance, thank you very much.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 09:27 AM

That's not too complicated for someone who needs to spout dimestore Greek to justify his loutish behaviour, is it?


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 09:22 AM

"To say that emotions are addictive is pretty stupid."

And to say that emotions are NOT addictive is equally stupid.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 08:56 AM

Anger is an emotion, just like all the others. To say that emotions are addictive is pretty stupid.

Anger is, in certain instances, the most appropriate emotion to experience. Just as sadness is, in certain instances, the most appropriate emotion to experience.

The fact that people have difficulty experiencing theirs and other people's emotions is what makes all of us human.

I find it odd that not one person has mentioned the most wonderful side effect of anger: catharsis.

But perhaps that's too complicated for people looking for dimestore pop psychology answers to justify their behavior.


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 10:10 PM

Anger is a great way of blowin' off steam. That's why I like it. But ya gotta keep yer head at the same time. Fer instance, I was just jokin' about givin' Al a burst from the tommygun or a hand grenade through the window. I ain't that stupid.

He don't worry me enough to have to resort to those kind of stern measures. Naw, he is just idle irritation from time to time. He's got enough bad luck already, just bein' Al...why should I make it worse for the poor sap? I save the tommygun for when people shoot at me first. Then the gloves are off, baby.

So. Anybody seen some tree-ripened mangos? The stuff in the stores here is pretty third rate.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: anger - addictive?
From: freda underhill
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 10:09 PM

I agree with Ivor - a good addiction is about a good distraction, and a temporary way of making a person feel better. Living in a fantasy world? more fun than the real one, sometimes.


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