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Subject: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,petr Date: 17 Feb 04 - 02:04 PM http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=bc_home&articleID=1529963 dont know if I made the link correctly anyway, this probably wont make the news in the states, but some dimwit american mistook vancouver canada for vancouver washington and got stopped at the peace arch border crossing. UPon searching the vehicle they found a live grenade in her glove compartment. (man, wouldnt want to cut her off on the highway). Claimed she knew nothing about it, was probably her husbands as hes in the army. They sent her on her way after some questioning. Imagine if she was going the other way and they found a roach, according to the zero tolerance her car would be seized - and shed be arrested and never allowed in the states again. Go figure. petr. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:01 PM Yeah but roaches aren't mentioned in the Constitution. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: John MacKenzie Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:03 PM What about Archie and Mehitabel? John |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:04 PM racist! |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: MMario Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:05 PM I'm pretty sure Archie and Mehetibal aren't mentioned in the Constitution. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:22 PM Bless you, Ron and Mario. I'm glad to know that someone here knows Archy and Mehitabel. "to hell with anything unrefined has always been my creed." |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Deckman Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:31 PM "Tojour gai, tojour gai, tojour gai" (sp?) Bob(deckman)Nelson |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Alice Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:44 PM Yes, it made the news in the US. Why would you think it didn't? I heard it yesterday. Radio news, while I was in the car. In addition, she was clueless about the direction she was driving. Her destination was Vancouver, WA, but she was headed in the opposite direction. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Don Firth Date: 17 Feb 04 - 03:51 PM But it's archy and mehitabel. All lower case. For those not acquainted with some of the greater literary works, archy, the soul of a verse libre poet reincarnated in the body of a cockroach, typed his missives on a standard typewriter by crawling up on the case and diving onto the keyboard while aiming at the specific letter he wanted, hoping that his meagre weight would depress the key sufficiently to type the letter. Since he couldn't hold down the shift key at the same time, everything came out in lower case (except for one time when the shift key was left locked down). Obviously, archy was a dedicated writer, because producing his works requied a great deal of physical exertion. Newspaperman Don Marquis would come into his office in the mornings and find archy's latest work in his typewriter. Thus, archy's literary efforts, often describing the adventures of his friend mehitabel (an alley-cat of great soul but easy virtue), made it into the public view. archy's observations on the human condition are well worth reading and heeding. don firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Metchosin Date: 17 Feb 04 - 04:02 PM Just curious, but is it legal in the US for members of the Armed Forces to carry their armaments around in their private vehicles? |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Fred (Beetle) Bailey Date: 17 Feb 04 - 04:16 PM Been quite a few years since I served as a Courts-Martial clerk at Ft. Sill Oklahoma, but I'd say that her husband is probably in some rather serious trouble. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: mg Date: 17 Feb 04 - 04:24 PM Mixing up Vancouver B.C. and Vancouver, Washington is very easy to do and does not warrant your snobbish tone. Vancouver B.C. is a huge metropolitan city, a major tourist destination. Vancouver, Washington, near to my home town, and where I lived prior to moving to Long Beach, is a small city, almost unknown even in Washington..it is part of the Portland metro area... There is so much confusion that there are periodic attempts to rename the city, the most common suggestion being Fort Vancouver, as it is the original Ft. Vancouver. If newspaper editors, tourist agencies etc. get these mixed up, a young wife from God knows where, sending her husband off to hell and gone, under great stress, can certainly make this mistake..and I doubt that her husband should have had the grenade in the car... mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Rapparee Date: 17 Feb 04 - 04:25 PM Yeah, Beetle, me too. The FBI investigates such things, and the penalties aren't light. You're not allowed to bring things back to the barracks, much put them in your car. I think he's in BIG trouble, even if it turns out that the grenade is "just" a practice one. For what it's worth, they don't let you take your gun home, either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Cluin Date: 17 Feb 04 - 04:31 PM Damn! **mental note to self.... glove compartment no longer safe zone... remove thermonuclear device before crossing border next week** |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: artbrooks Date: 17 Feb 04 - 04:31 PM Highly illegal to carry issued weapons in a personal vehicle, Metchosin, but even more so to carry a grenade, even a dummy (training) one-and none of the articles I saw said if it was live or not. Here is the article from the Seattle Times. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: open mike Date: 17 Feb 04 - 04:39 PM i say, recruit archy for the key board palyer in hUll. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,petr Date: 17 Feb 04 - 05:51 PM a friend of mine who happened to cross the border with the remnants of a roach in his pocket - ended up enduring a full body cavity search, had to pay a significant fine of several hundred US (they wouldnt take Canadian funds - so his friend had to go to a US bank and get the money) and has been banned from the US ever since. (the incident happened a few years ago just before they instituted the zero-tolerance policy- otherwise his car would have been seized and auctioned off). in a different case - a canadian truck driver, had his truck seized and held for months - because unbeknowst to him a co-worker left his lunch bag (with an orange in the cab). my snobbish tone? please excuse me for being ticked off at the inequality of treatment - theres plenty of americans crossing the border that that are outraged theyre not allowed to carry their guns across to canada. this woman went clear across the entire state, and dont tell me she cant read the signs everywhere that say Vancouver Canada along the way, and her husband is even dumber for having grenade in the car in the first place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Bill D Date: 17 Feb 04 - 06:14 PM dumb PERSON...no need to point out nationality
everyone but you, Petr, including the guards, was convinced the woman WAS lost and had no idea the thing was in the car! The husband WAS dumb for having it in the car, but sheesh! why the insistance that the woman was somehow 'at fault' for misreading highway signs? Come to MY area, and I'll show you some signs that defy comprehension, unless you already know where you are going! |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: mg Date: 17 Feb 04 - 06:27 PM I repeat, most people from out of state, and many from in state, are unaware there is a Vancouver, Washington..... mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,Confused Date: 17 Feb 04 - 06:37 PM Well then why was she going there, if she may not have known it existed in the first place? And what of the husband? Did she send him off to Hell before she decided to make this journey? |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: artbrooks Date: 17 Feb 04 - 06:40 PM The lady was from Houston. It is just as likely that she had never heard of Vancouver, BC. It's been a couple of years since I have droven on I-5 out of Tacoma, WA, but I'd be inclined to doubt that the signs say anything at all about Vancouver being in Canada, any more than the ones there say Seattle U.S.A. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Bill D Date: 17 Feb 04 - 06:54 PM Vancouver is a BIG place in Canada, and no doubt gets major signs on the highways...it would be easy to just carelessly follow the biggest signs, especially if one is tired and in heavy traffic... |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 17 Feb 04 - 07:03 PM Sorry Petr, but you make sweeping generalizations. The "dumb American" comment was uncalled for. Say what you will about our government, say what you will about that woman, but don't pull this "dumb American" crap and expect us to feel sorry because a few of your friends had some bad luck at the border. I'm sure we could fill this thread up with stories from Americans who had similiar problems. Bigotry begins at home. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 17 Feb 04 - 07:09 PM There are numerous instances of identically named towns or cities on both sides of state or national borders: Kansas City, MO & Kansas City, KS - Niagara Falls, NY & Niagara Falls, ON. The woman probably just assumed that Vancouver, WA and Vancouver, BC are such a cross-border pair. It's not illogical. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Peace Date: 17 Feb 04 - 07:33 PM Well, I got stoned once in the '60s--allow me to rephrase that--In the '60s I once got stoned and ended up in Chicago instead of Detroit. I see how the signs might have mixed her up. I know they did me, with the same number of letters and all. And as for the grenade, well, one never knows when one might need a pin. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Metchosin Date: 17 Feb 04 - 07:43 PM Well I don't find anything dumb or unusual about a person heading off for the the wrong country with a grenade in their glove compartment, I'm sure it happens all the time. "Ahkmed you fool! Why didn't you tell me you left the howitzer in the back seat?" is probably heard at borders all over the world.*BG* And if you think there aren't some dumb Canadians, boy have I got some relatives I'd like you to meet and as far as loosing direction, I can't even find the right thread to post to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,Melani Date: 17 Feb 04 - 07:59 PM One of my favorites is recounted in J.P O'Rourke's "Holidays in Hell": a story about a Lebanese border guard who stopped a taxi to search it. He told the driver to get out and open the trunk. The driver said the guard would have to get in and hold his foot on the brake, because the emergency didn't work. The guard agreed and did so. The driver opened the trunk. "Now," says the guard from the driver's seat, "are you carrying and contraband?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: dianavan Date: 17 Feb 04 - 08:19 PM C'mon - Vancouver and Vancouver are about 300 miles apart. Did the woman have no sense of time? Besides that, if you leave Fort Lewis, Vancouver, Wash. is South and Vancouver, B.C. is north. No sense of time and no sense of direction. And what? A grenade? Accidently forgot? Pretty dumb if you ask me. Mary Garvey - I love Long Beach. Spent alot of summers there as a kid. Dug alot of clams, too. Still dream of the dunes and the long expanse of sand at low tide. We used to get there on old logging roads. My aunt lived in an old Victorian house with a widow's walk and my cousins and I would be shipped out there to run wild on the beach. I hear that now there are condos built on the beach and all kinds of commercial kicks to be had. Believe it or not, we were the working class poor. As a kid I didn't know that. Just goes to show you how rich experience can make you. Lucky you. Say hello to the shorebirds for me. d |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Don Firth Date: 17 Feb 04 - 08:42 PM From the Seattle Times article: ". . . and found a functioning hand grenade in the glove compartment. . . ." A functioning hand grenade? I wonder how they determined that!??? "HIT THE DIRT!!!"Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,grenadier Date: 17 Feb 04 - 08:43 PM the guards did the right thing did they? let me ask you bill d, dyou think if she was crossing the border the other way whether they would nicely turn her around and send her on her way, or would she be halfway to guantanmo?. and if I happen to cut off someone on the highway, Id rather they through a roach at me than a grenade. But the roach'l get ya locked up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Peace Date: 17 Feb 04 - 09:39 PM The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Metchosin Date: 17 Feb 04 - 10:21 PM well done brucie! |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: jimmyt Date: 17 Feb 04 - 10:44 PM Let me gukess..........petr from Hu9ll |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Ironmule Date: 17 Feb 04 - 11:42 PM I know I'm a male and not supposed to do this, but sometimes I look at a map before I venture out onto unfamiliar roads looking for a place I've never been before. I've never been lost. I was confused for a couple of days once, but I wasn't lost *BG* Jeff Smith |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Clifton53 Date: 18 Feb 04 - 01:29 AM Yes well there's dumb people all over the world eh what? Troll another one, just like the other one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: The O'Meara Date: 18 Feb 04 - 09:11 AM The bell curve for idiots is the same in any large group. The lost woman with a grenade in the glove box is hard to believe, but easier to believe than border guards who let her drive off with it. That, I'm afraid, I just do not believe at all! O'Meara |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Dave Bryant Date: 18 Feb 04 - 09:51 AM Ironmule - I know I'm a male and not supposed to do this, but sometimes I look at a map before I venture out onto unfamiliar roads looking for a place I've never been before. - but this was a woman - what would she have done with a map ? . . . . . ducking, running, and thinking, Sh*t I hope there aren't any others with hand grenades . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 18 Feb 04 - 09:56 AM Okay, if this story is so hard to believe, what other explanation do you have? |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST Date: 18 Feb 04 - 10:10 AM It's not hard to believe at all.... Quite believable, in fact |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton Date: 18 Feb 04 - 10:31 AM To Joe, Ron or any other of our American `catters". Our "Daily Telegraph" of Feb. 17 contained an article by Vicki Woods(page 20) that suggests that American sensitivity to certain expressions results in you shying away from using the word "cock" in daily conversation. Hence your usage of "roach", "rooster", and avoidance of Anglo words like "stopcock" and "cockle" (baby clam) etc. Do you see this article as pretentious nonsense and journalistic licence or is there a grain of truth in it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: CarolC Date: 18 Feb 04 - 10:40 AM ...peacock, cockamamie, cock-sure, a cocked gun, cocky, petcock, cockpit... we even say cockle. We use those all the time. The article must be pretentious nonesense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: CarolC Date: 18 Feb 04 - 10:41 AM BTW, we also say "cockroach" as often as not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton Date: 18 Feb 04 - 10:44 AM CarolC, I thought as much. Now lets straighten out our Vicki! Ta, H.J. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Peace Date: 18 Feb 04 - 10:50 AM You people are missing the big picture, here. Everyone's hung up on the grenade. That's a red herring (no, not a fish, a misleading piece of evidence to distract the unwary from the true intent of her nefarious scheme). She was smuggling--no, not weapons, VEHICLES and ART. The grenade was a paper weight, nothing more. Get it together, 'catters. God, this is embarrassing. The map was a stolen Picasso. She got away with it because everyone focused on the grenade. Do I really have to explain this to intelligent people? The border guard was Canadian. Canadians would mistake the grenade for a fishing tool; in fact, they work very well when ya forget the fishing gear at home. That woman was brilliant. She should be nominated for something. I gotta go now. Need my meds. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Metchosin Date: 18 Feb 04 - 11:05 AM O'Meara, she wasn't held by the RCMP in Canada, I assume by this report and linked video that she and her SUV, after Immigration dealt with the matter, were turned over to US officials. I have heard nothing from the US side about what happened after. You can click on the little video camera further down the page linked and see more. Woops, wrong turn |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: Auxiris Date: 18 Feb 04 - 11:44 AM Just for the record Deckman, that should be "toujours gai". Et encore heureux que la foutue grenade n'a pas peté dans la main de quelqu'un. Aux |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 18 Feb 04 - 11:59 AM Hugh, it sounds like Vicki was having a slow newsday. Either that or maybe her fixation on the word is telling another story. I think most Americans refer to the bug as a "cockroach", not "roach". The word "roach" has a whole different meaning to most of us who spent time in the 60's and beyond. If we were to use that logic, I guess that would mean you Brits have an issue with penis size becuase you refer to "prawns" instead of "shrimp"? Makes you uncomfortable? Our sensitivity is probably not worse than any other group. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST,Peter from Essex Date: 18 Feb 04 - 12:18 PM *snip* you refer to "prawns" instead of "shrimp"? *snip* errrr -- we call prawns prawns and shrimp shrimps, they are different animals. Its Americans who insist on calling prawns shrimps. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: jimmyt Date: 18 Feb 04 - 12:39 PM Peter, Maybe just more dumb American logic, but I thought the plural of shrimp was shrimp and not "shrimps. " But I am quite sure I must be wrong. After all, we colonials are so provincial. |
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Subject: RE: BS: grenade in the glove box. Dumb American From: GUEST Date: 18 Feb 04 - 12:54 PM The Oxford Essexese dictionary, clearly gives the plural of shrimp, as 'shrimps', normally followed by 'yeah' |
