taylor guitars vs seagulls

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: kendall
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 02:08 PM

I never watch commercials. Well, if there are puppies...

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: Hasek
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 02:13 PM

Dear Claire , About a year and a half ago , I picked up a new Taylor 410 ( w/ Elixir medium gauge strings ) and will tell you , I couldn't put it down. I purchased it in minutes and I haven't put it down since. Great tone, great action, so incredibly easy to play , it's my choice. I love it. It's important that you fall in love with whatever guitar you buy , no matter the brand or cost. It can happen when your out there shopping . Each store knows that it might take a few days of playing the instrument for an hour or more for you to decide. We can suggest, but you need to decide. Good Luck.

Mike Strobel

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: Les b (U.K.)
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 03:11 PM

I can't understand why anyone who doesn't have to plug in a guitar, or play up the dusty end, would buy one of these cutaways with pickups. I think it's a fashion thing. I have never heard a cutaway version of an acoustic guitar, that sounds as good as the normal version of the same model. Les ( a proud owner of a 314 & a Big Baby)

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,Ned Ludd
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 05:40 PM

Nothing wrong with either. If money were not a problem, I'd buy a good Taylor.Personally,I own a couple of Fyldes, and wouldn't swap 'em.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: John Hardly
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 06:07 PM

Les,

Two distinctly different issues--I too would always opt to not have on-board electronics that involved cutting a hole in the guitar. Elecronics will change and the "hole" will be a wart some day in a perfectly good guitar (and I would call Taylor "perfectly good"--their craftsmanship is absolutely excellent for a factory guitar!)

As to a cutaway, my experience is just the opposite. I've never felt that it compromised the sound, and most people I've read or heard concur. I don't like the looks of the cutaways but that's another issue.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: kendall
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 07:11 PM

What I dont like about the cut away is the fact that anyone is so talented that they can make use of that extra area of the neck.!

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 08:07 PM

Yeah Kendall.....I figure a cutaway is OK as long as it gives me access to, oh say, about the 5th fret or so. Most of them do so..........

Spaw

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: kendall
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 10:09 PM

Beyond the fifth fret is monsters.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: John Hardly
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 11:31 PM

y'see kendall and catspaw,

A little bondo...a little lacquer and some ultra fine wet sandpaper and you can fix that cutaway right up!

following a suggestion from an interview I read with James Taylor (the interview was with JT--not "I read it with JT--damn how my modifiers do dangle), I had a crochetted "cobweb" made to put in that completely unused portion of my guitar.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 11:34 PM

Gee John, that sounds nice! Probably very attractive!! Anyway it certainly beats my idea of having a 6 fret neck put on a cutaway body.

Spaw

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: John Hardly
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 12:05 AM

Oh hell yes!!!!! With your way the scale length would be all screwed up! I mean, yours would look good an' all, I don't mean to offend you or nothin' but you'd be all kinds outta intonation an' stuff and you'd prolly sound like a haff and haff ukelele/mandolin.

sheesh, this technical loothery stuff wears me down...

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 07:01 AM

........(but don't you get the feelin' that this is how dumbass things like tiples get invented)........

Spaw

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: 53
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 07:48 PM

i have a big baby and i'm just thrilled about it's sound and it's playability i am very pleased with my taylor and i have played a lot of other guitars in fact i own a 1979 gibson j-40 a 1990 takamine ltd cutaway and i also have on e of the takamine g series which plays very nice but i still like to play my big baby.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,Jimbo
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 12:31 PM

Just bought a cheap knockabout guitar to keep at the caravan (didn't want to leave either my Lowden or Norman ST68 there for obvious reasons). It's made in China (Gremlin) - from recently improved spec. I never thought I'd buy a very cheap guitar, but this is unbelievable at the price.
I also never thought I'd ever buy a Taylor - totally untouched by human hand and totally over-hyped and over-priced. I'm still looking though - and after trying dozens at prices up to £3500 - still waiting to find one that doesn't suck at that price. Who knows though? I never thought I'd buy a Chinese guitar - maybe there is a decent Taylor out there somewhere........

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: kendall
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 10:21 PM

If I were in the market for a quality guitar that wasn't overpriced, I'd go for a Larrivee. (Also made in Canada)

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,gibson_101
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 04:10 AM

taylor guitars are terrible.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: skarpi
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 10:11 AM

well I have Seagull , and have had since 1995 and its my guitar
have alot of them since , only I have tested is better and that
is Martin OM 28 V a great guitar . I wish I could get it .

I also have Taylor 12 strings and what a sound .....woww .
good guitar , I dont know about 6 strings taylor s ´

But Seagull is good guitar , but I guess if the neck doesent
fit in to your hand its not your guitar , then it doesent matter
its called , Martin Seagull , Gibson Fenfer , Honer , or what ever those names are .

all the best Skarpi

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,adam
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 09:32 PM

was thinking to buy "taylor" acoustic guitar. any suggestion on good model? price range below USD 1500. type of wood? most important is best sound...

was told those without pickup and witout cut away give better sound, is tat true?

pls recommend. thanks..

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 09:40 PM

It all depends on the type of music you play and what fits your hand the best, They are all great like the high end Martins. Me I really like the Taylor 314 I think it is the best deal at that price range

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,donnie mack
Date: 13 May 10 - 07:11 PM

Seagull comes from line of gutiars made by Godin in Quebec Canada.
I prefer the Norman line from Godin The Norman ST 68 Is for sure the best gutiar under 2500.00 made anywhere and it is only around 1000.00 can. I have played many Gutiars in my 50 plus years including
the taylors, best restricted to light figerpicking styles, martin everbody knows is best used for heavy loud flat picking ie bluegrass,
but I will stick with the Norman st68 as the better allround gutiar.
of course this is only my opinion.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: kendall
Date: 13 May 10 - 07:30 PM

It's all so subjective. The Taylor 810 has everything I like in a guitar. Power, depth of sound, mellow and a beautiful neck. I can stand toe to toe with the bluegrass slammers and their Martins with the action you could shove a cat under and not be drowned out.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 14 May 10 - 12:04 PM

I love my Taylor. Unfortunately, so does my son who has been using it for much of his acoustic work with his band. I haven't seen the thing in months. I have been mostly playing nylon lately anyhow. By the way, Taylor is made in our "back yard" and gives great factory tours. Deering Banjo, ditto.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 May 10 - 12:32 PM

The best guitars I've played just lately have been Taylors...and the odd Martin is up there as well. Seagull are a great guitar for the money. I think they are the best choice for someone who wants to spend a modest amount, but still get a really good guitar. (I could say the same about Yamaha guitars too...)

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,guest-curtis
Date: 20 May 10 - 07:18 PM

In my life I've had two taylors... gs5 [mahogany back & sides with cedar top] and 714ce ltl [koa sides and back with cedar top]. Both with electronics. The electronics are so good and unobtrusive externally I opted for them. Was concerned they made some difference in terms of internal sound but was told by a few luthiers that it was unlikely and not noticeable. I like to record what I do for practice and to distribute for friends, so under the circumstances...

The 714 has a real full and mellow sound and did so pretty much right off due to the koa / cedar combination. Playing the gs5 is like playing a piano in terms of the resonance of the guitar that you can feel and the sound that you can hear.

Note that the 400 series up has 1 and 3/4 in. nut width, while I think the lower series guitars has more traditional 1 and 11/16th inch. Check the taylor website specs or talk to someone who knows the models before purchasing.

Curtis

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: Taylor96
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 11:15 PM

Well this thread headed for the swamp for a while.. all kinds of posts having nothing whatsoever to do with the topic in question.

So,, as you may guess I have a 1996 taylor 510..Mahog Dred.. It is probably the Best sounding guitar that I have ever had and I have had a few.
Sigma D 1 I believe it was.. sold it for 200 bucks few years ago. didnt like the sound. tinny.
Simon & Patrick pro maple..(made by same company as seagulls) beautiful guitar.. nice sound and all, sold it to a lady who fell in love with it and bought a
Blueridge BR 160.(2004) which I still have. Its a close to the Martin D16 and loud loud.. use it as my banger at outside jams.. really like it.
Gibson J45.. sold it last year . had for 4 years. Wasn't happy with it. No volume for my likes.
Larrivee. DV09-- sold it last year also.. hardly played it..loud and a beautiful guitar..didnt like it for Bluegrass which is mostly what I play.
Martin SPD16T..(1998) bought it new . nice sounding guitar and still have it.. play it often.
Walden D710 (2009) bought new last year.Its a 300.00 guitar. sounds like a lot more expensive guitar.. use as my banger... will keep

Have played quite a few Seagulls and was impressed with them.. for the price I believe them to be a very good buy.. BUT they are not a Taylor and I dont think you can compare them..at least when you get into the Taylor 300s and above....

My thoughts are.. If you have the bucks buy the best taylor you can afford.. If not , buy all means go to the Seagull.. you cant loose.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 19 Feb 11 - 02:10 PM

Well as you know Gary, its a game of two halves and anything can happen at this halfway stage,

The Taylors are in many ways the architects of the modern game, and appear to be dictating the run of play by dint of their strength in depth up front, whilst maintaining a pretty tight defence.

The breaking news is   that the Seagulls have gone for a four/two/four formation, and that gives them the option of playing a sweeper.

Subject: RE: taylor guitars vs seagulls
From: Acorn4
Date: 19 Feb 11 - 03:08 PM

I've had a Seagull for 10 years - I think it cost £400 or thereabouts. If I could buy a Taylor for, say £1,600, would I have a guitar 4 times better, and would I be a four times better guitarist?