Whistle Tab: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad

Subject: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:20 PM

I have had a similar problem before in Digital Tradition. I am looking for the music for a song, in this case The Wild Goose (Not sure if it is what I'm looking for but that is another issue) And when I click on it I dont get the song and music, I get quotations of Oreintal Philosophy. The Last time it was when I tried to find the Music for Broom of the Cowdeknowes, and someone was able to direct me to the correct URL with all the usual Digitrad features like Pennywhistle tabs which is what I am realy after.. I hope someone can again for The Wild Goose.
I also wonder why it happens , is it aproblem, not that I am averse to philospohy.

As to if it is the right song... I'm looking for what I think is a Canadian folk song about a trapper or trader who is heading south before the rivers freeze. One line from the song is The wild gosse flys over North shore and I'm going home. so any input on that would be good too.

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 06 May 07 - 06:22 AM

It looks like you want this one: Wild Goose. Here's the abc for the tune (file WILDGOOS)

Mick

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X:1
T:Wild Goose
C: Wade Hemsworth
Q:100
M:3/4
L: 1/32
K:C
E8 |"Am"A,8 A,12 A,4 |E8 E12 E4 |"D7"^F8 F8 D8 |"Am"E8 E8 z4 E4 |A,8 A,12 A,4 |
w: On Pu- kas- kwa Ri- ver so ear- ly this mor- ning, while men- ding my
E8 E8 E8 |"D7"^F12 F4 D8 |"Am"E16 E8- |E16 z8 |"F"F8 F12 F4 |
w: tump- line I hear the geese cal- ling._ O- ver the
A8 c8 c8 |d12 c4 d8 |A16 z8 |c8 A12 A4 |c8 A8 A8 |
w: bru- le, long cla- mo- ring cry, Fly- ing for- ma- tion a-
F12 F4 F8 |"C"E16 "^chorus:"A,6 A,2 |"Am"E16 E8- |E16 z4 E4 |"G7"G24 |
w: gainst the grey sky, Comes the wild goose,_ the wild
"Am"E16 C8 |"G7"D8 D12 E4 |"F"C8 C12 C4 |"E7"D8 B,4 "Am"B,12 |"Dm"A,24- |A,8 z8 ||
w: goose, high o- ver the north shore and I'm go- ing home._

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Mr Happy
Date: 06 May 07 - 06:27 AM

while men ding my tump line?

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 May 07 - 06:43 AM

oooooooooooooooo....

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 06 May 07 - 01:08 PM

A tumpline is a strap for a pack used while portageing that goes around the forhead.

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 06 May 07 - 01:12 PM

So no chance of getting the wistle tabs for this?

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 May 07 - 01:47 PM

Enquiries on broken links at the DT 'mirror' site ( http://sniff.numachi.com/ ) should be directed to the person who runs it; it is entirely separate from and independent of the 'real' Digital Tradition, which is here, and which provides music in midi form only.

In this case, the relevant file is missing from the 'mirror' site, and since the tune is used for one song only (unlike last time) you'll just have to make do with Mick's abc, which can be converted to staff or midi easily enough. Whistle tab is another matter, I expect. Perhaps one of the specialist whistle sites has a conversion routine.

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 06 May 07 - 01:58 PM

If you have abcm2ps or jaabcm2ps (and some of the other abc programs too I think), you can generate the whistle tab yourself from the abc. These will create postscript files (and you can convert those to pdf for example, if you have ghostscript/ghostview).

I can let you have the conversion in either postscript or pdf if you let me have an email address (become a member and use the send personal message facility if you want to keep your email address private). (ps is about 26k, pdf about 48k).

Mick

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Jeri
Date: 06 May 07 - 03:30 PM

Click here, in the mirror site and pick a format. There's a problem with his file names. (The text and tune file names have to match.)

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Jeri
Date: 06 May 07 - 03:33 PM

Well, never mind. I'm not as smart as I though I was. Sorry.

Subject: RE: Tech: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 06 May 07 - 06:52 PM

Thanks to all for all your efforts.
PDF is great.
[e-mail address removed -Joe Offer-]
And I wonder what is meant by Mirror site and who runs it so I can forward my questions to them?
Again thanks
Whack Fall The Day
Nick

Subject: RE: Whistle Tab: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 May 07 - 07:05 PM

Hi, Nick - the guy who runs "Yet Another Digital Tradition" is a bit elusive. I think I've been able to contact him once.

He has taken our Digital Tradition Folk Song Database (which everybody has permission to do) and has matched it with programming that automatically converts our tunes into various formats. Generally, his software does a darn good job, but some of our tunes don't seem to want to convert to some formats.

Our tunes are available here at Mudcat in MIDI format, and you can also download the database with tunes in Songwright format, which is a format little known outside the Mudcat world.

-Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-

Subject: RE: Whistle Tab: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 06 May 07 - 07:24 PM

Just to add to what Joe said, the site is the one Malcolm posted the link to above (and Jeri too). I haven't looked at the site recently, but there used to be a problem with some of the abc conversions from SongWright, and I suspect it's abc that's used to drive the other format conversions.

I have converted the DT tunes to abc (that's where the version above came from) and I'll make that generally available soon.

Mick

Joe/Clone - I've emailed Nick the pdf file now, so you might remove his email address from the post above. MCP

Subject: RE: Whistle Tab: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 06 May 07 - 07:40 PM

Ouch, I think I have piece of brain has been lodged in my head.
So the site I keep going to is not realy part of Mudcat? But someone else gave the world penywhistle tabs for all those songs that do work?
WOW!

Subject: RE: Whistle Tab: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 May 07 - 07:46 PM

All Nick has to do is read what it says on the the front page of the site he consulted (see my link, which I also gave him last time he had a problem there). If he can't be bothered to do that, it's not surprising he thought that it was something to do with the official DT.

The page(s) indicated in the conversion links there don't exist, which is why invoking them results in a (customised) error message. Naturally I checked the contents of the relevant directory to be sure.

Subject: RE: Whistle Tab: The Wild Goose in Digi Trad
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 06 May 07 - 07:52 PM

Nick - once you've got the abc the other conversions are trivial - there are programs that do all of them. You could create your own whistle tabs from the hundreds of thousands (I think) of abc files available online. You need one of the programs I referred to above - abcm2ps is my own preference. That generates postscript from the abc and optionally can include whistle tabs in the output. You can print this directly if you have a postscript interpreter -Ghostscript/Ghostview is one that's widely used, and this can generate pdf or image files from the postscript file.

These programs are all free and and available on most platforms - you can do a web search to get them if you haven't already.

(There are plenty of programs that handle abc files with various options - I have 20-odd on my system, though I rarely use any of them apart from abcm2ps and abc2midi. Without looking through all of them I can't say offhand if any of the others can give you whistle tab directly. You can have a look at abcnotation the (new) homepage of the originator for other abc software.)

Mick