BS: Pet hate

Subject: BS: Pet hate
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:25 AM

Don't you hate it when the car in front of you stops 3 car lengths behind the car in front of him at the traffic lights and then creeps up on it ? this gives me instant road rage.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Peace
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:29 AM

I hate it more when the driver behind me doesn't bother stopping at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:29 AM

the car in front of you stops 3 car lengths behind the car in front of him at the traffic lights ........ or anywhere else.

It is even worse when there is a left or right turn, driveway or something somewhere in the gap which you could use if they moved forward - instead you just have to sit and wait!

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: bobad
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:34 AM

Compared to the hardships being suffered by many in the world these days I wouldn't rate this too high on the scale of suffering.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:35 AM

Friday I expect to be driving from my home in Indiana to Lansing, MI. I would appreciate it if everyone would please clear off highway 69 for that day.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:36 AM

"Don't you hate it when the car in front of you stops 3 car lengths behind the car in front of him at the traffic lights and then creeps up on it ?"

I have no problem with that at all. Why on earth would this bother anyone? It is actually better for the car instead of sitting on the brake.

It bothers me when the jerk behind starts pounding his horn the second the light turns green before ANYONE has a chance to react - adding to the noise pollution - as if moving a split second faster will make all the difference in the world. Makes me want to get out of my car, pull out his horn and shove it down his or her windpipe.   Not that I have any road rage issues.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: pdq
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:41 AM

I thought this would be about a guy who kicks his dog.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:53 AM

Exactly. I came here to see what the rest of the story was going to be. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: jacqui.c
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:56 AM

You're right bobad, but sometimes it helps just to vent when frustration hits.

I was taught to stay far enough away from the vehicle in front, at a stop, to be able to see tyres and tarmac. That way, if the person in front couldn't get their vehicle moving for any reason, I would have space to drive round them. It also gives a little buffer in case of being rear ended - meaning a bit less chance of ending up with front and rear damage.

What got to me yesterday was the woman in the car behind mine driving along the Mass Turnpike who had to drive so close to my car that if I had had to brake sharply she would have no chance of avoiding a collision. She had a child in the front seat as well! I was in the outside lane, travelling at a safe distance from the preceding vehicle, at a matching speed and overtaking vehicles on the two inside lanes. This madwoman finally dove into a small gap in the next lane and then repeated the maneouvre into the inside lane, drove at speed into a small gap in the middle lane a little further up and gained about three vehicle lengths in the outside lane, still behind a lot of traffic travelling in that lane. As far as I'm concerned - you want to kill yourself go do it where you won't affect other people and don't take your kids out with you!

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Donuel
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:57 AM

Everyone is stopping at a light.
Then people start changing lanes to gain advantage.
Soon one lane is suddenly 40 ft shorter than it was when you started to appraoch the stopped traffic and you have to brake as hard as you can.

...or when the nearly stopped guy changes lanes to save 6 feet and blocks both lanes.

Have you noticed that people's hand is obligated to the cell phone and is now unavailable to use the now vestigal turn signal.

...................

Last week the woman (Andrea Lopez) in front of me was stopped at a light but she was in reverse having just backed up so cross traffic would not hit her.
She stayed in reverse.
I backed up 40 feet not daring to honk.
The light turned green and she peeled out in reverse all the way back to my car and hit it. Fortunetly she did try stopping halway back so the impact was not severe.
She gave me $25 toward an alignment job and I went to a local junk store where I found a $1,000 Australian opal gem set in sterling silver and bought it for $25.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Paul Burke
Date: 14 May 08 - 10:59 AM

It is actually better for the car instead of sitting on the brake.

Don't you put the handbrake on, and put the car in neutral?

I agree- creepers are annoyances, but only at defined stops like traffic lights and roundabouts. In a queue caused by road works, say, it's much better to keep going slowly, even if this leaves a gap, as it reduces the slinky effect further back (where the traffic bunches, then thins, usually causing much longer delays). My old Transit van is great for this- being diesel and low- geared, in first it can toddle along at less than walking pace.

My pet pet hate is tailgaters.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Acorn4
Date: 14 May 08 - 11:25 AM

Thought I'd attach this , as no one has mentioned these vehicles so far. As it's a parody of the "Wild Rover" I thought I'd have to get the word "prodigal" in somewhere. It's sort of dedicated to Jeremy Clarkson.

Range Rover.

I've been a total airhead for many a long year,
And medical science can find no known cure,
But somehow I've gathered up gold in great store,
So I've gone out and bought a bloody great 4 x 4

Chorus:

And it's Stuff The Planet, (King of the Road)
Bugger posterity, I will drive my Range Rover,
So the neighbours can see.

Though I work in an office from morning till late,
You'd think that I came off my country estate.
And my credit rating means I can get a huge loan,
With a voice like John Major, I'm God on his throne.

And it's Stuff The Planet...

If a Range Rover's slightly out of my price range
A Daihitsumishibishiboshi will do just the same,
See my radiator full in your rear view,
Cos I'll be right up your backside a tailgating you..

And it's Stuff The Planet...

As a lifestyle statement, I need this beast,
Though the fuel consumption's prodigal to say the least,
On a narrow country road, I won't budge an inch,
As straddling the white line I drive you in the ditch.

And it's Stuff The Planet

Now the wife's got one too, for the school run it's great,
Though we only live twenty five yards from the gates.
As she's mounting the kerb,with shopping on her mind,
Scattering children and cones across the double yellow lines…

And it's Stuff The Planet

Perched up on high, King of all that I survey,
Annoyed when the world won't get out of my way.
My garage mechanic he doesn't miss a trick,
And he always knows where he can find the dipstick..
And it's Stuff The Planet

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 14 May 08 - 11:29 AM

My pet hate is people who play loudly Walkmans on the train.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 May 08 - 12:08 PM

Drivers who sit on my rear bumper when there is neither room each side of me to pass or space in front of me for them to occupy.

And anyone coming up behind me flashing their lights (unless they are blue ones on an emergency vehicle and not some wiseass git flashing main beams and fog lights on alternately - how can that help you concentrate on the road mate eh?) is likely to get me slowing to the correct speed and taking my sweet time in pulling over safely rather than intimidating me into pulling in too soon... I'm in charge of my vehicle and my safety, not yours.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: GUEST,Seaking
Date: 14 May 08 - 12:13 PM

Our cat hates next door's dog

Chris

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Donuel
Date: 14 May 08 - 12:17 PM

My BMW draws applause, it is not bound by traffic laws.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Amos
Date: 14 May 08 - 12:22 PM

You know, folks, I do not recommend making pets out of hates. Pet Hates can't be left alone. They are not friendly. Also they tend not to be house-trained, and even when managing to be house-trained they often lose control at inopportune moments. Finally, they are not good for the children.

Pet Hates cause allergies. Their bites can be toxic. Their waste products are deeply staining. They will not learn to do parlor tricks (with a few exceptions such as Jon Stewart's) and in general make life harder.

Instead of harboring these liabilities, I recommend procuring a pair of compatible Pet Enthusiasms.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 14 May 08 - 12:34 PM

What really annoys me is when someone passes you illegally, speeding, of course, almost runs the car coming the other direction off the road, and THEN ends up right in front of you at the next stop light. Like it did them any good at all almost killing several people.

Had this happen once years ago on Rte. 4 -- and then passed that car pulled over by the Durham cops on the Rte. 108 overpass. Almost felt like stopping and saying, "You know what this guy did five miles back?!?" But it did my heart good that he had evidently pulled some other instance of assholery and got snagged by the law. Yes! There is a god!

Oh, and I'm not crazy about tailgaters, either. Or people who can't be bothered to put their headlights on -- as if the purpose of headlights is to SEE and not TO BE SEEN. Hate it even worse when the headlightless one is a cop.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Amos
Date: 14 May 08 - 01:03 PM

Pet enthusiasms are much better company and will amuse your friends and --if well chosen--make your family proud; they will show the world you have character, brighten the dullest family evenings, serve as conversational icebreakers, and may attract new and interesting friends into your life.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: gnu
Date: 14 May 08 - 02:18 PM

Earlier today, I was cruisin along listening to the radio and just beyond a city crew flusing a fire hydrant, a pickup trunk with tha same radio station's name all over it pulled out from a side street into the outside lane and accelerated rapidly through the 8 inch deep water. As the truck went by a car waiting for the car in front to make a left, the truck sent a wave of water over the car. The left hand turning car turned and the car that got "washed" accelerated... much faster than the truck. The traffic lights a hundred yards ahead turned red. I did the same but when I got alongside the truck, I matched the speed of the truck so it could not change lanes.

Now, I don't know what the young gentleman in the truck was thinking, but he really should have at least rolled down his window and profusely apologized to the guy. That would have saved him the boot prints and dents in his door and front quarter panel by a rather large and very pissed off gentleman.

Now, you might think that the asshole might get away with telling his boss that someone put the boots to the truck in a parking lot or whatever. Not so. I know because it happened during the 10AM "request show". Guess who phoned in and said he had just put the boots to the radio station's truck and WHY HE DID!

Dontcha just hate ignorant assholes? And love to see them get their due? I do.... and did.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Bill D
Date: 14 May 08 - 06:34 PM

Type 'A' personalities should either not be allowed drivers licenses, or only sold cars with governors on them...and their name & address stenciled on the side.

Am I being facetious?...well, mostly.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: gnomad
Date: 14 May 08 - 07:05 PM

I think it might be time to segregate the UK and the Stateside motoring threads.

Broadly speaking: US motoring means lots of roadspace, 100 miles (few turns) for a lunch date, auto transmissions as the norm, drive on the right, and 30 mpg is economy. Oh, and weather conditions we rightpondsiders wouldn't contemplate.

UK means negligible roadspace, lunchdate not worth trying to find a parking place, stick-shift, drive on the left, 30 mpg is sacrilege (our fuel prices make foreigners blanch) but our climate is OK.

We just don't talk the same language.

For the record and Eric the red in particular, I dislike them too, but not their pets, and to jacqui c, yeah, with tailgaters I hate their pets as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 14 May 08 - 07:16 PM

Too much testosterone, in a lot of cases. Should be a controlled substance.

(I'm smiling, guys, when I'm saying that!)

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: topical tom
Date: 15 May 08 - 07:39 AM

I'm not bothered by someone stopping at a red light at quite a distance behind me.My pet hate is a driver riding my bumper with his brights on at night.Oh to have 007's car on occasions!

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 15 May 08 - 08:08 AM

people talking on their mobiles while driving - not only is it dangerous, it's illegal here.

Another peeve is the idiots who are left stuck in the middle & on the crossings when the lights change. They not only impede the traffic trying to cross, they also endanger the pedestrians who have to walk around them.   

Some of our CBD intersections are marked with diagonal lines meaning don't get stuck here when the lights change, mate or you'll get fined or whatfor, so impatient drivers are forced to wait when the traffic ahead of them is banked up.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: *Laura*
Date: 15 May 08 - 08:09 AM

I hate driving behind someone, usually on a quieter lane type road, who keeps braking for NO reason as if every slight curve in the road is going to kill them.
Yes I KNOW country lanes can be daunting if you're not used to them... but sometimes it's just unnecessary!

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 15 May 08 - 08:14 AM

The bumpersticker I want is "I Brake For Tailgaters".

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 May 08 - 08:23 AM

Or the ones (probably the same ones) who brake every time a car approaches travelling in the opposite direction and perfectly safely on its own side of the road.

But it's the tail-gaters whose heads I'd like to tear off and p**s down their necks.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 May 08 - 08:57 AM

Tailgaters are annoying, but I usually put on the emergency flashers, slow to 10 miles below the limit (the norm here is 5-10 above, and they eventually get the message and go around - this is usually on a multi-lane road. No, the ones who get me are the non-passers. Those are the ones who will start around at a reasonable speed, and then just hang there in your the blind spot until you are forced slow down a bit so they'll move on by. Their other manifestation is to be in front of you, moving along at a reasonable speed, and then hang up half way around another car or truck - resulting not only in your having to slow down, but the idiot behind you getting an opportunity to sit on your rear bumper for a while.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: *Laura*
Date: 15 May 08 - 09:16 AM

Ooh - or if you're on a duel carriageway and you overtake someone, but as soon as you start to overtake them they speed up again so you are going along side by side and you have to drop back behind them. I HATE people doing that!!!
I think this happens with me because people get offended if they're being overtaken by a Mini.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 May 08 - 09:39 AM

"Dontcha just hate ignorant assholes?"

Which one was the asshole? The driver of the truck who made a stupid and probably unthinking move, or the mental midget who thought that putting his boot to a van was a good thing?    Seems to me that damaging property and taking a chance of being arrested because they are pissed at someone elses ignorance is not the actions of the brightest bulb in the box.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 15 May 08 - 09:52 AM

When the driver in front of me stops to let someone out of a parking lot and then I catch the light red. If by doing one person a favor you're screwing someone else, often 2 or 3 someone elses, you've cancelled out your act of kindness. And every time you try to keep a "sure clear distance" between you and the car in front, some a**hole fills in the gap.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Acorn4
Date: 15 May 08 - 10:03 AM

The person who pulls out in front of you at a junction making you brake, then does 30mph and you're stuck behind them for 30 miles of winding road.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 May 08 - 10:04 AM

"When the driver in front of me stops to let someone out of a parking lot and then I catch the light red."

You can also look at it as both you and the driver in front of you contributed to an act of kindness and not feel that the person was an asshole. No reason for anyone to beat a light. The reality is the time waiting only costs a minute or two at most, and you will probably catch up at the next light anyway.    People just need to relax.

Just because we control and sit on top of a large and heavy weapon such as a car does not mean that we have any special privalage or power. It ain't the meat, it's the motion.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Amos
Date: 15 May 08 - 10:14 AM

Jaysus, guys...most of these people you hate are just trying to get where they're going, same as you are. You can save a lot of stomach acid and knuckle-wear just by being a bit Zen about this miracleo f transport going on around you. I know there are people who drive like assholes, but at least for my own part, I know I have also driven like an asshole multiple times without necessarily being aware of it at the time. It's pretty easy to slow down, or steer clear of such drivers,usually, and a lot easier on the psyche.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 15 May 08 - 10:47 AM

Red light runners...

Seamus

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 May 08 - 10:51 AM

Amen Amos!!

Getting back to the other example, how many times have you been the person trying to make a turn and no one would let you in?   I know I've grumbled about their lack of caring.

Slow down.. we move too fast as it is. If we control our own road rage when we are behind the wheel, we have taken one more asshole driver off the road!

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 May 08 - 11:01 AM

We don't have problems with tailgaters here in Bubbaland. There's a reason why the sliding rear window on a pickup truck is called a "shotgun window" and you never can tell when Bubba or Jim Bob is packin'.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 May 08 - 11:04 AM

That is one more reason why the south will never rise again.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 May 08 - 11:36 AM

That's a joke, Ron. Southerners actually seem to take roadway idiocy pretty much in stride. The only cases of genuine tire-iron swinging road rage I've ever witnessed have been in Missouri. I guess that means the midwest will never rise again, huh?

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 May 08 - 11:46 AM

Did the midwest ever really matter???   :)

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 May 08 - 12:11 PM

An edited extract of a recent letter of mine to Kent police - who have still not as far as I know prosecuted the driver of the Audi:

"I was proceeding up the M2, and with the benefit of hindsight I can now say it was a few miles before the A249 junction. I was in the outside lane, leaving a considerable distance clear between me and a Jaguar in front of me. Behind me, a reasonable distance clear, was a white van.

The Audi illegally overtook the white van on the inside. I pulled into the inside lane, to allow him to overtake me. For some reason he also pulled in, and drove up closely to my rear bumper.

The white van then started to overtake the Audi again. Our speed at this stage was a fair bit under 70 and might even have been under 60 for there were two lorries a good distance ahead, one trying to overtake the other, causing a queue in the outside lane as many waited for their proper opportunities to overtake the lorries.

At this stage I was a few car lengths behind the Jaguar, in the inside lane, but I did not wish to overtake the Jaguar (illegally) on the inside, even though the inside lane was clear ahead. The white van was alongside me, but he obviously did not wish to get too close to the Jaguar (who was in any event waiting for the car ahead of him and so on).

The Audi then drew onto the hard shoulder. It overtook me on the inside doing well over 70 mph and then overtook the Jaguar on the inside and pushed out in front of him into the outside lane. I phoned you.

The white van pulled into the inside lane in due course and I could see it was going down the A249. I did likewise and attracted the driver's attention. I kept you on the phone and the driver of the van spoke to you to confirm the details. I also told you that he had a passenger and suggested that you speak to that passenger. The van driver was in no doubt that the Audi's manoeuvre was the worst piece of driving he had ever seen.

I do not see why this is insufficient for the driver of the Audi to be prosecuted, particularly since there is a third witness to it all. I should value your explanation."

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 May 08 - 04:57 PM

People who sit in the middle lane of a motorway (3 lanes of traffic), when the inside lane is perfectly empty but they just sit there, pootling along, regardless of the traffic building up behind them or overtaking them.... my father was one of those drivers - it was like the inside lane (the correct lane for driving in) needed a special permit or a passport to enter. He would sit in the middle doing 45mph (50 if it were downhill or he was getting angry, which was often), totally oblivious of the other drivers behind him hooting, flashing their lights and gesticulating at him to pull over into the empty inside lane.

I also hate those colleagues of mine who sit at their desks with their phones off the hook whilst I'm going crazy answering three telephones.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Acorn4
Date: 15 May 08 - 05:44 PM

I remember a song by Jeremy Taylor called "Red Velvet Steering Wheel Cover Driver".

I remember the time I was driving along
on the Liverpool highway singing a song
and the day was as good as the road it was long
I was on my way
then up ahead a black speck appeared
and as I drew near it was just what I feared
doing twenty-five miles an hour in top gear
in the outside lane
oh dear me glory be
one of them
I could see
it was a red velvet steering wheel cover driver.

He and his wife they sat side by side
in their safety belts they were safely tied
and together they drove through the green countryside
which they did not see
they had two dingle-dangles which hung by a string
from the mirror, and on the back seat was a thing
which wobbled its head up and down with a singular
stare at me
up and down
side to side
keep your eyes open wide
for the red velvet steering wheel cover driver.

He's got three china ducks on his sitting room wall
and a bowl of pink plastic flowers in the hall
and a souvenir ashtray he bought in Porthcawl
on his holiday
and when he gets home he'll go straight to his chair
switch on the telly and all night he'll stare
at the girls and the gunfights and wish he was there
but he's here to stay
when he regrets
what he didn't see
then he'll switch to ITV
'cos he's a red velvet steering wheel cover driver.

Each Monday morning he takes his basket to town,
he goes to the supermarket he walks up and down
and thinks oh what a task
it's so hard to choose
'cos there's apple-sponge pudding all topped with taysteefreez
ready-cut loaves, instant cake-mix and frozen peas
all of those fifty seven varieties fresh today
hermetically sealed, untouched by
human hand, so easy just heat the
tin, think of those gifts
you might Win
if you're a red velvet steering wheel cover driver.

Well it's Saturday night it's the night for a fling so
let's on with our glad rags and ring-a-ding-dingo
we'll down to the Hall for a good game of Bingo
and cups of tea
then it's back home to bed, switch out the light
hug a hot water bottle, sweet dreams and sleep tight
and God keep us from things that go bump in the night
and especially
all those dreams
of the day
when our own children will say
"My dad's a red velvet steering wheel cover driver."

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Bert
Date: 15 May 08 - 06:15 PM

A while back I was driving along a fourlane; I was in the fast lane doing about five miles an hour over the speed limit. The eighteen wheeler in the slow lane was doing about four miles an hour over the speed limit, so it was taking a while to get past him.

I would have slowed down and got in behind him but for this tailgater. He couldn't have been more than about a yard off my rear bumper.

While checking him in my mirror I saw him take his eyes off the road and talk to his wife. I took that opportunity to just touch my brakes hard enough to turn on the lights but not hard enough to slow me down any.

When he looked to the road again he saw my brakelights and hit his brakes hard, nearly putting his wife through the windshield.

I finally managed to get into the slow lane, but it was ten minutes later before he passed me. His wife was still reaming him a new one.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Donuel
Date: 15 May 08 - 06:21 PM

Tailgating semi trucks is great if you want to save 75% of your fuel.
Not so great if he panic stops.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Acorn4
Date: 15 May 08 - 07:13 PM

It's also pretty self evident that driver consideration gets worse as you get closer to London.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: RangerSteve
Date: 15 May 08 - 07:17 PM

Taking up more than one parking space. It's almost always some kind of yuppie vehicle - and usually an SUV. I've seen a lot of cars parked straddling the line between parking spaces because their car is new, and they don't want anyone parking next to them and possibly scratching their new car. I wonder if there's a point where you finally say "OK, it's old now, and I don't care if it gets scratched, so I'll park correctly". Then there are the times when I get back to my car and find there's a car parked next to it so close that I can't get into mine. I have a really small Toyota with a manual shift on the floor, so getting in the passenger side is not an option. One time I managed to squeeze in to my car, and out of anger, slammed my car door into the offending SUV. (My car has plastic strips on the doors, so no damage was done to my car). Then I noticed that the entire side of the SUV was scratched - apparently, this wasn't the first time the owner had parked like that, and I wasn't the first person to react the same way.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 08 - 09:11 PM

Steve, I have an old beat-up car and when folks do that I park so damned close to their brand new SUVs that they have to use the passenger door to get into their vehicles.

Subject: RE: BS: Pet hate
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 May 08 - 03:55 AM

In the UK, there are parking wardens who will charge you for two parking spaces if he catches you - I've had that trouble too!

I was happy enough to witness the return of such an inconsiderate parker to his vehicle (and it wasn't even a big SUV, just an ordinary BMW) to find the warden slapping a ticket on his windscreen. His language was not what my aged, disabled mother was used to... :D

The warden told him he was lucky he'd only charged him for one extra parking space, the one where he was blocking my boot so I couldn't get the wheelchair in - and we were in a disabled bay with a path behind it for that purpose!

LTS