The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 02:44 PM

"You are a racist, David. A nasty, narrow-minded, sad little racist" and "Just because an admissions officer with some hardcore recruitment targets once took pity on you," (Ruth Archer/Joan Crumb of the National Council - who surely SHOULD be having words.)"

Why?

"My challenge still stands, how many of the jobs you were passed over for were given to immigrants?" (Volgadon)...I'd like to ignore this, but your style involves reposting it ad infinitum so - no idea.<\i>

One wonders why you'd have liked to ignore the question. Shall I take your answer as a no, can't think of a single instance? Puts the lie to your whinging rant. It also shifts the responsibility back to you.


"Wav, analytical abilities have nothing to do with formal studies, if proof of that were needed, one needs look no further than YOU." (Volgadon)...yes, there are of course different ways of learning: I, e.g., have taught myself informally to read and write/mimic music - just the top-line melody, mind.

That wasn't an endorsement, Wav. Of course, you are proud of being a poor musician who can barely play just the melody, so why should I be surprised.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Ruth, who has lost her cookies.
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:29 PM

WAV, when i post here i post as an individual, not as a representative of any organisation. i have made this clear in the past, and it's partly why I choose to use a nom de guerre. What else I do in my life, and who for, has largely been mentioned by others - unlike you, I don't feel compelled to pimp my every achievement all over the internet, creating a website in homage to myself and constantly drawing attention to it. In fact I never even had a website till last week, and the one I have now is to promote my business, not my Way Forward For Humanity (nor my crap melodeon playing, come to it - unlike you, I won't inflict my piss-poor musicianship on the world until I'm a lot better). You'll notice, I've never mentioned the address on Mudcat.

My gripe with you is one of personal ideology, and it's rather pathetic of you to try and scare me off by "outing" me. In fact, it demonstrates the weakness of your arguments that these are the sorts of tactics you're prepared to resort to in order to try and shut me up, rather than working out reasoned responses to the many questions which have been put to you.

I stand by everything I've ever said about your xenophobia, racism, narcissism and self-aggrandisement. Anyone who wants proof need only read what you've written. Hoist by your own petard.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:46 PM

Oh WAV, whether you were claiming the sentence that I copied of Don's as naive in your opinion, or the entire paragraph as being naive in your opinion, I will say, since YOU have no flipping idea about it, that you are the one being naive. What Don said was spot on. And we are obliged here to broaden our jobsearch too, or haven't you seen the unemployment numbers here in the US? I have a degree, but guess what, I'm not working in anything related to it. In fact, most Americans probably are not working on what they went to 4 year university for. And then there's all of those that never went to university but have great jobs because they are great workers.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:48 PM

I suppose we should be thankful that most bigots are so bloody stupid. Wor Davey might actually be worrying if he wasn't so lamentably dim. Stubborn little bugger, though...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:55 PM

David, I said "I've seen this kind of thing before," referring to people who would rather not work if they can survive on the dole, but make excuses, not just to their friends and acquaintances, but to themselves, that it's not their own lack of ambition that keeps them from working, but "those other people," be they immigrants from Pakistan or Jamaica moving to England in hopes of finding work, or in the United States, Mexicans crossing the border to take domestic jobs or do farm work, or citizens who happen to be members of ethnic groups that have previously been discriminated against. Those "other people" make a good excuse for not bothering to try. As long as the unemployment insurance holds out.

And the people who drew unemployment checks while complaining about affirmative action, did have to try. It was a legal requirement that they had to apply for at least three jobs per week. There were people (the one's doing the complaining) who did the minimum required by law. Those who were serious about finding another job were out there putting in several applications every day. And, I might mention, even in the worst of times, they generally found work within a very few weeks.

It is not me who is naïve, David, it is you being disingenuous.

And—

"You've also criticised my myspace attempts at music, before being politely asked if there's anything of yours we can check on the web..?"

When I was critical of your attempts at music on your MySpace site, I was pointing out (and I don't think I would have much disagreement from others who have listened to it) that posting the things you have on MySpace is way premature if you want to be taken seriously as any kind of musician. Your work on the recorder shows that you are a relative beginner on the instrument, and when you sing, you do so without breath-support and a very precarious sense of pitch (which may very well be aggravated by the lack of breath-support).

What I was endeavoring to get across to you was that—again, if you wish to be taken seriously as a singer and musician—you should not be presenting yourself to the public before you are ready.

And for heaven's sake, don't take the position that since you're doing folk music, you don't have to be able to do it well. That's not only patronizing, it demonstrates contempt for both your audience and for the music itself.

What you should do is to sing for some long-time, experienced singer whom you can trust to tell you frankly what you are doing right and what you are doing wrong. You probably can't afford singing lessons in your present circumstances, but when you can, taking some singing lessons would be a very good idea—that is, if you want to pursue singing seriously. At least learn how to sing a whole phrase without sounding like you need to gasp for air, and to sing on the correct pitches without wandering off.

This is not a put-down, David, it's good advice. And I don't think there is anyone here, or any singer, professional or serious amateur, who would disagree with what I have said above.

And you asked if there is anything of mine on the web that you can check (the implication seeming to be that "If I'm so hot, why haven't I posted anything, like you have?" As I believe I told you before, I do not have anything on the web right now—not because I'm afraid to expose myself—but because I am currently working on a series of songs for a CD. Or several CDs. I've recently acquired some good quality recording equipment (a couple of good condenser microphones, an analog-to-digital interface for the desktop computer in my office, and miscellaneous other gear such as mic stands and pop-filters), and I am setting up a home studio. In the meantime, I'm selecting the songs—from the repertoire I have been singing in performance for years—that I want to record. In addition, I am learning a number of new songs. It will be some time before the project is complete. But I guarantee, it will be professional quality.

When it's well along, I will indeed post a number of songs on the web, for you to judge for yourself.

You may not like much of it, however, because in addition to a number of American songs, many of the songs will be from the British Isles, along with a couple from continental Europe.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 04:07 PM

...some may not mind being called racist but I hate it, and "fight" back with words against it

If you weren't racist, you wouldn't have written, posted & published what you have. Yes, you fight back with words, Wavy, but only in the form of lies and tantrums of personal abuse, not with any attempt to explain how your ridiculous manifesto isn't racist.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 05:36 PM

"Rollin', rollin', rollin'....RAWHIDE!!!!!!!!!!!"

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 03:35 AM

Have to say Don that your last post was one of the most reasonable so far.
Good luck with the project, always interested in how others interpret songs.
Look forward to hearing the result.
I very much doubt that Dave will take your advice though!
Regards
Ralphie

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:12 AM

"My challenge still stands, how many of the jobs you were passed over for were given to immigrants?" (Volgadon)...I'd like to ignore this, but your style involves reposting it ad infinitum so - no idea." (me)
One wonders why you'd have liked to ignore the question. Shall I take your answer as a no, can't think of a single instance? Puts the lie to your whinging rant. It also shifts the responsibility back to you."(Volgadon)...I don't know about such cases in Israel, Volgadon, but in England feedback on a failed job applicatiOn would not normally involve who got the post.

"WAV, when i post here i post as an individual, not as a representative of any organisation. i have made this clear in the past, and it's partly why I choose to use a nom de guerre." (Ruth)...I got your real name (Joan Crump) and organisation (EFDSS/National Council) of work FROM YOU ON MUDCAT. And people can and have been brought before their seniors at work for things they do and say outside of work. Here's your latest: "I stand by everything I've ever said about your xenophobia, racism, narcissism and self-aggrandisement."...that about someone, me, who has found his way on a shoestring through about 40 countries, has at least tried to support the land rights of Aborigines, Masai, etc., has never attacked any particular culture or race and, on the contrary, does indeed love the world being multicultural. And, in your desire to attack me, you have also come up with this regarding my alma mater: "Just because an admissions officer with some hardcore recruitment targets once took pity on you,". Then: "Anyone who wants proof need only read what you've written." (Ruth)...here's my life's work.

Don - instead of all your knocking and bragging, do some recording for us to check FIRST.

"...some may not mind being called racist but I hate it, and "fight" back with words against it" (me)..."If you weren't racist, you wouldn't have written, posted & published what you have. Yes, you fight back with words, Wavy, but only in the form of lies and tantrums of personal abuse, not with any attempt to explain how your ridiculous manifesto isn't racist." (IB)...who recently on the "England's National Musical-Instrumnent" repeatedly referred to a recorder as an "Engrish frute"...because it was made in Japan?
My, above, manifesto isn't racist, IB, because there is no racism in it.

By the way, the last Weekly Walkabout questioned gambling...any thoughts on that matter..?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Joseph P
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:25 AM

I'll Win the lotto
That is my motto
When things are feeling gloomy

But getting employment
will increase life-enjoyment,
so time to hand out my resume!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 07:00 AM

Put your money where your mouth is, call the National Council and listen as they laugh you off the line for wasting their time with such trivial nonsense.

"WAV, when i post here i post as an individual, not as a representative of any organisation. i have made this clear in the past, and it's partly why I choose to use a nom de guerre." (Ruth)...I got your real name (Joan Crump) and organisation (EFDSS/National Council) of work FROM YOU ON MUDCAT. And people can and have been brought before their seniors at work for things they do and say outside of work. Here's your latest: "I stand by everything I've ever said about your xenophobia, racism, narcissism and self-aggrandisement."...that about someone, me, who has found his way on a shoestring through about 40 countries, has at least tried to support the land rights of Aborigines, Masai, etc., has never attacked any particular culture or race and, on the contrary, does indeed love the world being multicultural. And, in your desire to attack me, you have also come up with this regarding my alma mater: "Just because an admissions officer with some hardcore recruitment targets once took pity on you,". Then: "Anyone who wants proof need only read what you've written." (Ruth)...here's my life's work.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 07:53 AM

WAV writes: "Don - instead of all your knocking and bragging, do some recording for us to check FIRST."

What a sniveling little piece of shit you are Wavyblowboy. Your complete lack of knowledge about Don Firth shines brightly through in that one stupid sentence. Don was performing live and a major part of the folk scene in his area about the time your sorry, broke-dick, self was born! If you had any interest in the others who live here in the Mudcat village you would know that. You don't. Mudcat is blessed by having the likes of Don Firth among us as well as Bob Nelson, Art Thieme, Bruce Murdoch, Sandy Paton, Jean Ritchie, and so many others.   Speak not of that which you don't know.

Your own work is so pathetic and laughable that statements like the one you made above are the ones that are the most defamatory of all. Your voice is below average at best and your blow-job technique on recorder coupled with your lack of any musicality make your offerings distasteful and in need of becoming burnt offerings. Please take all your crappy recordings and racist life's work out to the back and burn them......then run them over with a forklift.

On the other hand, YOU cannot be defamed by being labeled what you have have proven yourself to be with your own words..........a RACIST AND A BIGOT. You actually use the word "manifesto" regarding that drivel you write????? Last guy who used that was the Unibomber preceded of course by Hitler.   I'm sure both are closet heroes of yours.

You're still young but I figure the syphilis you inherited from Mumsy has already started eating away at your brain which causes you to act like such a complete moron. Either that or the genetic code passed on by the yak your mother kept as a lover is incompatible with that of sub-humans.....like your mother. Must be one or the other or maybe both......................

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 09:18 AM

Hmmm two things from WAV-
"My, above, manifesto isn't racist, IB, because there is no racism in it.

By the way, the last Weekly Walkabout questioned gambling...any thoughts on that matter..? "

So it is a manifesto then WAV? Or a life's work? or your life's work manifesto?

Gambling? Let me put a 20 down that says you quote from yourself again instead of answering questions put to you. No wait, I'm feeling lucky, make it double or nothing.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 10:10 AM

Well yeah Irish.....But who the hell besides Wavydickless would take the bet? (;<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Ruth sans cookie
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 10:14 AM

Look - it's the amazing disappearing posts!

I believe i was explaining to WAV that I am NOT employed by EFDSS - I sit on its governing body. I am self-employed. I speak for no one other than myself when I call his stated views racist, and sometimes sexist and homophobic, too. I will continue to refute his poisonoius views as long as he keeps making racist and xenophobic statements and trying to harness them to English folk culture.

If the only way you can fight the battles you yourself have started is to threaten to contact people's employers, doesn't that illustrate the bankruptcy of your ideology? Eliza Carthy is the EFDSS Vice President, but she spoke only for herself when she told you where to get off, Wavey. Are you gonna try and shop her, too?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:18 PM

Catspaw - more false and defamatory words from you.
IE - if you look, it was IB who decided to call my life's work
a "manifesto."
If RSC is Ruth Archer/Joan Crump, then more false and defamatory remarks from her (as well as deflection, this time).

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:33 PM

Is there a drug that could make John McCain speak like catspaw?

Man could I have fun with that drug and a spray bottle.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:43 PM

Lessee here................I'm reviewing the 4 paragraphs of my 7:53AM post.......................Hmmmmm........The first paragraph is completely factual......................Second is also.........Third one is right on the nose, no problem there...........................Now in the 4th I may have been wrong about your Mumsy.....Perhaps it was the yak that had syphilis.......

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:28 PM

Well . . . I tried.

David Franks, you are pathetic.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:36 PM

All WAV seems to be able to do now is stamp his foot and repeat the tautologous phrase "False and Defamatory". Bollocks - he's nailed his colours to the mast as a racist, and now wriggles and whinges when it's picked up.
So, if it's defamatory, then sue. You should be able to find a solicitor to look over a print-out of the thread and give you some cheap advice under the 15-minute session basis, or even pro-bono. Or go to your local CAB.
You might not like what you hear.
But, for Pete's sake, stop bloody whinging. Or are you trying to be the archetypal Whinging Pom?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:56 PM

Here is a question. Say you managed to get capitalist migration stopped. Now all those people in this 'rotten old world' who depended on income from jobs in other countries are left without even that. Now what? You say you are concerned about people and about inequality in the world, so how are they to be helped?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:26 PM

Don

I have no need to check your vocal and instrumental quality. I apologise for WAVs remarks on behalf of all right minded Brits.

Also Sean, I too found WAVs remarks to you in the worst of taste - even for him

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:35 PM

RE Don Firth.
http://pnwfolklore.org/AboutPNWF.html
http://www.stewarthendrickson.com/VictoryMusic/December-MusicalTrad_FirthNelsonConcert.html

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:47 PM

Deflection? Please do elaborate...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 04:01 PM

Thank you, Stu. No apologies necessary. I have been something of an anglophile all my life and I regret that I have never had a opportunity to visit England, or the British Isles in general (my great grandfather came from Scotland). I believe I could live in England quite happily, and I know my wife could. What a varied and fascinating country!

And I'm certainly not going to judge a country or its people by the behavior of one village idiot.

And thank you for posting those links, Volgadon. I can hardly believe that the reunion concert that Bob and I did was over a year ago. And blessings all over John Ashford's grandson, Jordan. He can write my concert reviews any time he wants!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:08 PM

"the archetypal Whinging Pom?" (Gervase)....where you from?

"Here is a question. Say you managed to get capitalist migration stopped. Now all those people in this 'rotten old world' who depended on income from jobs in other countries are left without even that. Now what? You say you are concerned about people and about inequality in the world, so how are they to be helped?" (Volgadon)...I've answered that by pointing out how all the economic/capitalist immigration/emigration of the last century has NOT solved the rotten inequality in our world, and suggested, rather..

Poem 105 of 230: GLOBAL REGULATIONISM

No income-scale would be unjust -
    It's a matter of degree;
And, to have less inequality,
    Regulations are a must.

For, in Millennium's status quo,
    The pay-gaps for human work,
And what's gotten simply as a perk,
    Are wrong - inhumanely so.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Don - good to notice you just avoided the use of "Brits" (Stu) and used, rather, England, Scotland, and the British Isles.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:17 PM

Come on over, Don. Seriously - I've got a big ol' house and more bedrooms than I know what to do with. I could take you to some great places if you wanted to visit traditional events, or go to sessions or festivals - whatever. It's all I'm ever doing anyway!

It would be my pleasure. :)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:24 PM

Look, I know how you can end all this, WAV.

Just get down on your knees weeping in abject surrender and ADMIT that you're a racist, a child molester, a wife-beater, a bad driver, a really terribly bad poet, a moral leper, a witless jackoff, a contemptible jadrool, an insult to all western civilization, and a complete disgrace to humanity.

Apologize for even having been born.

Then demand that an international trial be held, similar to Nuremberg, and that you be condemned to summary execution after owning up to your evilness, and that your remains be then tossed to the jackals.

And swear to never post on this forum again.

And take down your website and burn all your writings.

Have your name erased from the Book of Days. Cease to be.

If you do all of the above, then the righteous assembly of your betters here will all have a giant collective orgasm, after which they will all have to lie down and rest for a bit.

Ah. Won't it be lovely? Good shall once again triumph over evil and the peaceable kingdom be restored.

*****

One thing worrisome about it, though...what will the good folk of Paris do with their spare time when Quasimodo is gone?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:32 PM

soon to be independent republic: Scotland.

I think Wavy believes that Scottish independence will result the expulsion of all non-Scottish nationals and a mass exodus of Scots from England back to their motherland. The extent to which Scotland and England interface on a cultural level will never change; most of my friends in Scotland are English, and most of my Scottish friends live in England. No doubt you're hoping for a rise of fevered nationalism leading to a blood bath of civil war and ethnic cleansing, but people will be too busy getting on with their lives to notice.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:36 PM

what will the good folk of Paris do with their spare time when Quasimodo is gone?

We'll be you, LH - watching the skies for little green men in their AFOs...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:42 PM

IB, maybe WAV is hoping for the blancmanges to turn all of England into Scots (an old Monty Python episode for any of you shaking your head now asking wtf?). Unlike the ending of that episode though, WAV is probably ensuring that it won't be a woman in the finals of Wimbledon, since WAV believes (and this is from his own writings mind you) that women are better suited to table tennis rather than tennis. I want to really know WAV, how you think this-for real? I know you play some tennis, but why do I get the feeling that the lowest ranked woman on the pro circuit probably would kick your ass? Why are they better suited to table tennis? Please explain that. People in your opinion are trying to "get" you on racism, but I really want to know about this. There are an awful lot of women here on mudcat, and saying to all of them effectively that you think they are better suited to the sport of table tennis (which by the way, when played at the professional level is no walkover of a sport) is, I think, a real slap in the face. Explain, without resort to a god damn poem.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 09:56 PM

Hey!

Quasimodo was one of the good guys! He may not have been pretty to look at, but he had a good heart. and he had a great sense of humor. At times he had a hard time keeping a straight face.

Quasimodo and I worked together, climbing all over tall cathedrals, ringing bells, and rescuing gypsy girls from lecherous priests.

So I knew Quasimodo.

Quasimodo was a friend of mine.

And WAV is no Quasimodo!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 10:04 PM

That's a real temptation, Ruth. Thank you for the invitation, and I really wish I could take you up on it.

My circumstances right now make it very unlikely, but who knows what the future may bring? Again, thank you!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 11:06 PM

Hawkster, I am very proud of you. First I admire your tenacity in pointing out the obvious on this thread but we're all having such a good time and Wavy is such a limp dick that no one is listening!

But I am equally proud and pleased to see you have broadened your vocabulary.   I was a happy camper when you began using mamalucca which some witlesss jerkwad accused me of inventing! Now you have added another which the same ignorant nutsack licker claimed I had also "made up." Your new word is, as you know, one of my very favorites......."Jadrool."(basically meaning a worthless bum)    Lovely piece of Dago slang I heard from my earliest days. I remember Charlie Gardena using it in reference to a local jerk when I was about 6 and my Dad chastising him. As I recall the the conversation went:

Charlie: "Damn Unk, J__ S________ is the dumbest fockin' jadrool in the county."
The Ol' Man: "Geeziz Keericed Charlie.....Watch your gawdamn language. Ya' gotta' watch what the hell ya' say around the boy or his Momma will have my ass."

Obviously my Dad wanted to keep my mind pure and his ass safe.


I don't really want Walksaboutcrapping to leave. I want him to bring his Mum over for a chat. She might have a bone to pick with me, so to speak. I figure she's busy right now though going down on Joe the Plumber.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 02:49 AM

"the archetypal Whinging Pom?" (Gervase)....where you from?
England. Now living in Wales. And your point is?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 06:28 AM

Thanks for that effort LH, but, as you can see from IB's post straight after, it didn't work - I, and I'm sure Scottish Nationalists, don't want or expect a "blood bath" as these isles move toward independent friendly-rival republics.
IE - are you sure we haven't covered that "ANYONE for Tennis?" matter...but my stance is on my myspace TENNIS TIPS TO TRY blog, if you'd like a recap.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: irishenglish
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 07:20 AM

NO WAV, you have never elaborated why you feel, as you say, females are better suited for table tennis. Your blog does not elaborate on it either, rather, it just says that females are better suited for table tennis because of "strain on the elbows." I want to know why. You post your material on here to foster some type of discussion. Let me, and all the fine and amazing women who post on this forum know why you feel women are so ill suited to play a sport. Let me know why you feel they are better suited towards table tennis. Let me know how on earth you could say that with such amazing women tennis players as the Williams Sisters, Martina Navratilova, Chris Everett, Monica Seles, Steffi Graf, Lindsey Davenport, Martina Hingis, Billie Jean King. Let me know how you come to this decision in 2008 after the Women's Singles Champions were contested for the first time in the following years:

Australia-1922
French-1897
US Open-1887
Wimbledon-1884

Well...would you look at that, Wimbledon decided 114 years ago that women deserved their own championship match. By the way, the first men's championship at Wimbledon took place only seven years before that, in 1877.

So please WAV, answer how with a tradition in the modern era of equality for women and men as players of the sport, do you come by a stance that says women aren't suited to play the sport, rather they should be playing table tennis. Who are you to make a judgement on it anyway, with some of the most popular tennis players in the world being, in fact, women? You want to tell Venus and Serena that they should be making the switch indoors to table tennis? I said it before, but I'm quite certain that the lowest ranked woman on the pro circuit would beat you handily WAV.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 07:22 AM

Well, even if Scottish independence happens (unlikely, IMHO)there will certainly still be English people like Maggie living in Scotland, so I'm not entirely sure what the point was of bringing up the fact that she lives there.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:03 PM

Not willing to take my good advice and publicly confess your many sins, WAV? Well, I'm saddened by that. I was only trying to spare you another few years of extreme personal abuse here, but...well...perhaps you enjoy it? Who am I to say?

Anyway, pay no attention to what Insane Beard says. Of all the maleficent and gormless pitiable maundering jadrools in the world, he is the king. The man can't even tie his own shoes, for God's sake! He gets his maiden auntie to do them up for him each morning...besides which, did you know that he was last August's "cover boy" for Wankers' Monthly Magazine?

Yes, indeed. His name says it all. Insane Beard. The pity of it is that even if he shaved the damn thing off, the insanity would still remain. ;-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:26 PM

"strain on the elbows. I want to know why." (IE)...look at all the strapping and bulged veins on the ladies tour:
Tennis is a very masculine game, and the more masculine someone becomes by hitting lots of balls, and doing weights, the better they will be - unless they begin to get the injuries. Table tennis, on the other hand, if you'll pardon the pun, is much more about reflex, and the very top female players can keep their femininity - you may have noticed this during the olympics. I want to add, as I did on the still alive "Anyone for tennis?" thread, that I'd be quite happy, though, to work as a production manager under a female MD, or for the next Archbishop of Canterbury to be a female. However, if on a shop-floor I noticed a female about to lift a 25kg of raw material, I'd stop her and do it myself.
I've also admitted that pro female tennis players probably would beat me with my clubfoot and relatively slow court speed - but that is not the point, if you'll pardon another pun.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:27 PM

You do me great honor, Spaw. Thanks, man! Y'know, I've been thinking too that it would be really great if you could meet WAV's Mum sometime and she could get to know your family and you could get to know hers. Then, a little bit farther down the road, one of your children could marry one of WAV's children (I'm hoping and assuming he has some progeny) thus cementing an impermiable bond between your family lines, a bond that could be expected to produce heirs to your shared familial tradition unto time imemorial.

Whaddya think about that?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Stu
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 01:38 PM

WAV, far be it from to question the integrity of your chosen medium to deliver your,er, 'unique' , um, 'content' to the world but I can't help but notice at least two of your friends on your MySpace site are actually dead.

How the fuck did they do that then? They were in the ground when MySpace was just an itch on Margaret Thatcher's left bollock?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 05:36 PM

Russian tennis star Maria Sharapova. Maria again. And again. Nah. Just doesn't cut it in the femininity department, I guess. Obviously, women tennis players are just too muscular to be feminine. And Russian women in particular.

Well, how about any of these ladies?   Maybe these?   Just too many bulging muscles to be considered feminine.

These women should learn to keep their proper place. In the kitchen and in the bedroom!

Lookout, David! Here it comes!    WHAP!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 06:49 PM

LOL! Great pictures, Don! Geez, so we've added rampant male chauvinism to the list of WAV's sins, have we? Hot damn.

I think we are entering a whole new fertile area of controversy here, and I look forward to it. This is even better than the "Bat Boy" stories in "Weekly News of the World", I swear!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,VOlgadon
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 07:22 PM

But we've already been through it, Wav's ways are one big round thingy that goes round in circles..

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 09:50 PM

"...one big round thingy that goes round in circles.."

Much like his Mumsy's ass at a piano bar.............

So Wavyshriveledscrotum..........Why not do as Hawk says and send your dear mother around?   Make it in the spring in Cleveland so she can be plugged by all the Lake's sailors before the season gets busy. Then all the guys on the Duluth run can pick up their penicillin scrip as they pass through the Soo.

Is it true your Mom has the longest running case of the clap in recorded history?

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 10:36 PM

That is no way to talk about a future relative and in-law, Spaw!

Whasamattah you? You wanna meet my big bruddah, Vinnie, is dat what youse want? You wanna go talk to da fishes?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 10:44 PM

Yeah, I'll take your fockin' Vinnie and raise you two Big Pauley's. Say, about the fish......I heard someone say once that for the right amount, they'd go underwater and fuck fish. I think it was Wavy's Mom.....................

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 04:40 AM

He gets his maiden auntie to do them up for him each morning...besides which, did you know that he was last August's "cover boy" for Wankers' Monthly Magazine?

Wrong, wrong, wrong, LH - my shoelaces are done up each morning by Granma McAlatia - and whilst the cheque for the Wankers' Monthly cover shoot came in very handy indeed, of course I don't take the magazine myself, ahem, preferring as I do the far classier German quarterly Sich Abzapfen. Nice to know it gave someone someone some pleasure anyway...

Keep watching the skies!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 06:49 AM

"WAV, far be it from to question the integrity of your chosen medium to deliver your,er, 'unique' , um, 'content' to the world but I can't help but notice at least two of your friends on your MySpace site are actually dead. How the fuck did they do that then? They were in the ground when MySpace was just an itch on Margaret Thatcher's left bollock?" (Stigweard)...firstly, no need to swear, my friend!; for a while I avoided myspace
"Friends" (who are really just links) whose Spaces are definitely not mangaged by the person they present...but then I changed my mind and treated them more as links to some good stuff.

Don - last I heard Maria Sharapova was still out of action with a bad shoulder injury..?