The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 01:42 PM

Ruth/Joan Crump of the national Council - in the above poem I don't criticize immigrants of any particular background only, again, the act of mass/economic/capitalist immigration itself, so what you said, again, is false and defamatory; and you are also ignorant regarding industry/locatiion.

Catspaw - do you stand by your use of the term "whiteboy" on the Eng. Inst. thread, above the line?

Pip - please read the poem again, and this one...

Poem 76 of 230: LAND RIGHTS

If there is a good thing
    From the Second World War
It's that most peoples learnt
    To conquer lands no more.

In Africa, Asia,
    And the Pacific, too:
Post-war independence -
    Steps only bigots rue.

But for some indigenes,
    Outnumbered much-too-much,
It has all come too late
    For liberty, as such.

So 'tis in Australia,
    And America's sites,
Where the best now, I think,
    Is to respect land rights.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 02:13 PM

Pip - please read the poem again

Since you've treated my comments with such lack of care and attention, I'm minded to tell you to bog off. But OK, here goes:

Back when we became defenders
    (We have plainly been attackers),
Defenders' blood, sweat and years
    Were paid to keep a good home-way -

This is factually incorrect. As far as Britain is concerned, the war was fought against Fascism, for freedom and for democracy, but emphatically not for the preservation of traditional culture. English traditional culture was both massively eroded and massively changed by the war and its aftermath. It would have been much better preserved by peace with Nazi Germany. Obviously, I think the damage - and change, which isn't the same thing - to English traditional culture was a price worth paying for the defeat of Fascism. Do you?

A way yet to be part stealth-blown,
    As mass immigration gained-sway
And as we slipped as maintainers.

As far as I can see this is factually wrong as well - I'm not aware of any destructive change to English culture which was identifiably caused by immigration. But I'm willing to be enlightened: in what sense has the English 'way' been partially 'blown' as a result of 'mass immigration'? What, specifically, are you talking about?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 02:24 PM

in the above poem I don't criticize immigrants of any particular background only, again, the act of mass/economic/capitalist immigration itself, so what you said, again, is false and defamatory

Change the record. Get this into your head, if you can: you don't have to criticize immigrants of any particular background in order for your views to be racist.

The Oxford English Dictionary defines 'racism' as follows:

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Hence: prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races, especially those felt to be a threat to one's cultural or racial integrity or economic well-being; the expression of such prejudice in words or actions. Also occasionally in extended use, with reference to people of other nationalities.

Unless you can show that that poem doesn't exhibit "prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races, especially those felt to be a threat to one's cultural or racial integrity or economic well-being", Ruth's correct and you're the one who owes her an apology.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 02:42 PM

If there is a good thing
    From the Second World War
It's that most peoples learnt
    To conquer lands no more.

DID they, indeed? And how many wars have there been since the end of World War II?

Read up a bit on recent history, David. In fact, since you have a telly, you might even try watching the news.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 03:12 PM

Were there any mudcatters at the Northumbrian Gathering? Did you win a prize?

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 03:31 PM

I said "most" Don.
Pip - you and others have to accept that there is no such "prejudice" or "superior"/"inferior" ideas in the above poem, or any of the others in my collection, where I do, rather, on several occasions, question THE ACT OFIMMIGRATION ITELF; and, since I do watch the news/current affairs, I'll do so again in prose - did New Labour really fix the roof while the economic climate was good over the last few years, or did they, rather, allow a record amount of capitalist/economic immgiration through the door?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 04:09 PM

David, let me quote a verse from a hard-hitting song written by Eric Bogle, a Scotsman who emigrated to Australia (as I learned it from the singing of Ronnie Browne).

Contemplations while sitting by a gravestone in a World War I military cemetery in France.

I can't help but wonder, young Willie McBride,
Do those who lie here really know why they died?
Did they believe when they answered the call?
Did they really believe that this war would end wars?
The sorrow, the suffering, the glory, the shame;
The killing, the dying, were all done in vain,
For, young Willie McBride, it all happened again,
And again, and again, and again, and again.

© Eric Bogle

Unfortunately, what Eric Bogle wrote is all too true.

"Most" is not enough.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 04:41 PM

there is no such "prejudice" or "superior"/"inferior" ideas in the above poem

Don't be ridiculous. You quite clearly say that 'mass immigration' (by non-English people) has led to the partial loss of English culture. You go so far as to equate the defence of English culture against the influence of non-English immigrants with the defence of liberty against Fascism.

OED: "prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races, especially those felt to be a threat to one's cultural or racial integrity or economic well-being"

The definition fits like a glove.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 05:08 PM

Well Franks, so you really do believe that "capitalist/economic immigration" is to blame for the current economic predicament in which we find ourselves?
Your views are no different from those of the British National Party. And you have the temerity to claim you aren't a racist? Don't make me bloody bark, you ignorant fool.
Tell me, my little fascist, what are your views on the Jewish question?
Talking of which, there was rather a good programme about a poet on the radio this afternoon. Isaac Rosenberg - a "jewboy" whose parents were economic migrants. A good poet, too. In fact, a better poet on his worst day than you'll ever be on your best.
He wasn't a workshy scrounger who parasitised his adopted country, either. He needed to find a job to support his family, so he joined the Army. He served for three years and died for his country on the first of April, 1918, leaving behind some of the finest war poetry ever written.
Read it and weep, you bottom-feeding scumsucker. You wouldn't be fit to lick his boots.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 05:10 PM

Exactly so, Pip! I'd say that ends that particular discussion.

Sorry, David. The verdict is in.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 05:19 PM

Spaw:

Stealth-blown is an Olde English custom that used to traditionally take place behind the bike sheds or on the back seat of a bus... isn't it?

Ruth Archer:

A round of applause!

WaV:

Whiteboy, if you really are as unemployable as you seem, try and find something useful to do with your time. I'm sure there are training courses for all sorts of things available. I believe there's also a book that may be of benefit too: "How to Make Friends and Influence People".

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 05:19 PM

Ah, good! Now we can finally have the sentencing. Will it be hanging? Garroting? Death by Guillotine? Burning at the stake? Thrown into a pit of famished rats? Decisions, decisions. ;-)

And will the defendant launch an appeal? I'm betting he will. This may end up going all the way to the Supreme Court or even the World Court before it is done.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 07:07 PM

"Will it be hanging? Garroting? Death by Guillotine? Burning at the stake? Thrown into a pit of famished rats?"

Little Hawk, for shame! Have you no imagination? "Tsk tsk!" I say unto you. And furthermore, "Tsk!"

Nothing so crude!

My sentence would be that David find himself living in exactly the kind of world he says he wants.

Think about it!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 07:17 PM

LOL! Well, I would wish that on the Republican Party's support base too, as long as the rest of us would not be required to share it with them.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 07:24 PM

Wavey: anyone who works in a specialist field in the UK needs to be prepared to re-locate to where the work is. My ex-husband, a journalist, was compelled to do this several times, taking wife and child with him. I, too, have had to apply for jobs which take me away from my immediate locality, because of the nature of my profession.

Do you apply for jobs nationally? Are you prepared to re-locate to get yourself off the dole? And you still haven't explained how a "re-patriate" on the dole benefits the indigenous culture more than an immigrant who is paying his way.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 07:37 PM

Of course, in the good old days they'd have banished him to the colonies..

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 08:05 PM

Isn't that where he returned from? Well, he could trade in his "English flute" for a didgeridoo.

Or would that be a didgeridon't?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 09:16 PM

A didgeridoo and two pounds of lard, perhaps.. and a stout length of rope to tie his kangaroo down with.

Is the correct plural didgeridee? Dare we ask him?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:21 PM

I dunno. He'll only refer us to a "poem" on his web site.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:30 PM

Its no wonder you're such a dumbass. Leaarn to read for comprehension and not speed. Here's the follow-up post for the third time....And in your case, Don't play that funky music Whiteboy!!!!
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Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: catspaw49 - PM
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 09:15 AM

And Wavyracist......Just for your enlightenment since you obviously know fuck all about modern English OR world culture.........

H3>"Play That Funky Music" (also known as "Play That Funky Music, White Boy") is a funk rock song written by Robert Parissi and recorded by the rock band Wild Cherry. The song hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100 on September 18, 1976. It was also the basis of a top five U.S.A. hit for Vanilla Ice in 1990. The song also was #10 in the UK and is now listed at #73 on Billboard's Greatest Songs of all time."
The song was inspired by a black audience member who shouted, "Play some funky music, white boy" while they were playing at the 2001 Club. Lead singer Robert Parissi decided they should, and wrote down the phrase on a bar order pad. They later recorded it in Cleveland with a Disco sound. Although the band was concerned about the lyrics, Parissi insisted on keeping them.

Now I dunno' about # 73 all time but the phrase has certainly become part of our almost shared language. Here's another phrase brought about by an overwhelming majority opinion of folks on this thread and your other crapass threads as well...........


David Franks is a racist and a bigot.

Spaw

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Now go off and practice fellatio on your recorder.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 12:59 AM

Wasn't he Italian?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Paul Burke
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:44 AM

I suppose more than one didgeridoo could be a didgeriduo. But don't play them in harmony.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:50 AM

Nah you're thinking of that Great British sea dog
Fellatio Nelson

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 04:03 AM

Unemployment is not equally distributed across the UK labour force. Age, qualifications, sex, ethnicity and location all have an impact on whether or not people become unemployed and on the length of time people spend out of work. In spring 2002 the North East had the highest unemployment rate of the English regions at 6.9 per cent, while the lowest rates were 3.5 per cent in the East and 3.6 per cent in the South West. Among the constituent countries of the United Kingdom, Scotland had the highest rate at 6.8 per cent, followed by Wales (6.1 per cent), Northern Ireland (5.6 per cent) and England (4.9 per cent).

Office of statistics

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:45 AM

Now Smokey has called also called me a "whiteboy" before adding "Of course, in the good old days they'd have banished him to the colonies..."...you seem to have about as much respect for Aborigines as Don. But, again, none of you have any seem to have any problem with that - just my questioning of THE ACT OF IMMIGRATION ITSELF...
And do you think the record amount of economic/capitalist immigration under New Labour, during the good economic climate of the last few years, has helped with those just-above statistics, Stu?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 06:00 AM

The categories of immigration you quote aren't included in any statistics I can find. I merely checked on your assertion that Ruth was wrong. She was right.

I am an immigrant to Lancashire, which county has become my home, and whose natives have treated me as a welcome friend. I have taken part in the social structures of the area, and am proud to contribute (I think) positively.

I have no problem with immigrants. It's easy to point the finger when there are housing/employment/school problems, and attribute them to thecommon cause of immigration. It's sloppy thinking however. The labour force in a country is a resource that can be used to improve production, widen skill base, introduce new concepts. It doesn't matter where the people are from.

At different times in my life I have felt that immigration caused this otr that problem. I was wrong; I have grown up.

Sincerely

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 06:50 AM

"And do you think the record amount of economic/capitalist immigration under New Labour, during the good economic climate of the last few years, has helped with those just-above statistics, Stu?"

Well, your "re-patriation" certainly hasn't helped, has it? You also haven't responded yet to the following:

"Wavey: anyone who works in a specialist field in the UK needs to be prepared to re-locate to where the work is. My ex-husband, a journalist, was compelled to do this several times, taking wife and child with him. I, too, have had to apply for jobs which take me away from my immediate locality, because of the nature of my profession.

Do you apply for jobs nationally? Are you prepared to re-locate to get yourself off the dole? And you still haven't explained how a "re-patriate" on the dole benefits the indigenous culture more than an immigrant who is paying his way."

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 08:21 AM

WAV - you define immigration (or if you prefer THE ACT OF IMMIGRATION ITSELF) to exclude yourself.
Therefore, 'immigration' means 'the immmigration of people of foreign ancestry'.
Therefore, you feel English culture is threatened by the arrival in England of people of foreign ancestry.
Therefore, what you're expressing is precisely

"prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races, especially those felt to be a threat to one's cultural or racial integrity or economic well-being"

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: mandotim
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 10:02 AM

Nice, Pip; logical strings are always good to see.
WAV; Pip's post above is what academics refer to as 'reason'. He has concluded, using an authoritative source definition (the OED) and impeccable inductive logic that your expressed view of 'the act of immigration itself' is racist. You refuse to retract this view, indeed you promote it as part of your 'life's work' and 'a better way for humanity'. This recidivism therefore leads us to conclude that you are in fact an unapologetic racist. Using the same inductive logic, without resorting to unsubstantiated sources and unsupported opinion, can you argue otherwise? (Without referring to your utterly discredited websites). Take that as a challenge, WAV. I don't think you're up to it, myself.
I'd love to be able to make the logical connection that all racists are scum, but sadly that's just a personal opinion.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 12:21 PM

And the word of the day is.........


Persiflage!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 02:37 PM

"...you seem to have about as much respect for Aborigines as Don."

And just where the hell did you get THAT, you weasel?

Never, at any time, have I ever expressed any lack of respect for Indigenous Australians. You, in fact, may be showing disrespect by using the term "Aborigines."

A short time back, on a thread about recently seen movies, I mentioned a movie that I enjoyed entitled "Quigley Down Under." Without going into detail about the movie (look it up if you're interested), in the course of my review, I used the term "Aborigines." Shortly thereafter, I read the following:

The word Aboriginal has been in use in English since at least the 17th century and means "first or earliest known, indigenous," (Latin Aborigines, from ab: from, and origo: origin, beginning). Strictly speaking, "Aborigine" is the noun and "Aboriginal" the adjectival form; however the latter is often also employed to stand as a noun. The use of "Aborigine(s)" or "Aboriginal(s)" in this sense, i.e., as a noun, has acquired negative, even derogatory connotations in some sectors of the community, who regard it as insensitive, and even offensive. The more acceptable and correct expression is "Aboriginal Australians" or "Aboriginal people," though even this is sometimes regarded as an expression to be avoided because of its historical associations with colonialism. "Indigenous Australians" has found increasing acceptance, particularly since the 1980s.

Unaware of this at the time I originally posted on the movie thread, I posted again and explained that I was, indeed, unaware of the possibly pejorative nature of the term and I duly apologized if I had inadvertently offended anyone.

David Franks, among being many other distinctly unadmirable things, you are also a liar!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 02:53 PM

Oops. Time for a new word of the day....

OUTRAGE!!!!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Stu
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:08 PM

Do you suppose WAV's self-esteem is intact after these threads?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:10 PM

If so, he should consider running for prime minister of the UK, because he will have shown that he can take the flak.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:07 PM

Back when we became defenders
    (We have plainly been attackers),
Defenders' blood, sweat and years
    Were paid to keep a good home-way -
A way yet to be part stealth-blown,
    As mass immigration gained-sway
And as we slipped as maintainers.
there has been a lot of this from, David Franks,but not much in the way of facts,what were the uk immigration figures for 2007,and what were the uk emigration figures,what were the uk figures for illegal immigrants.
David Franks,please supply these English from government sources,not from british national party,or english democrat sources

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:08 PM

Little Hawk, if someone lies about you, don't you think you have a right to set the record straight? If not, you leave me no choice but to curse you with that ancient and most dreaded of Japanese curses, "Whasamalayou!??"

But, of course, I mustn't do that, otherwise our resident racist will try to divert attention from himself (ironic, that, since he's here primarily for the attention!) by squealing with delight that I've just offered him further proof that I am a racist, not him.

So just forget it!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:11 PM

And that give us a whole new word for today:

Amnesia!

...what was it you just said to me, Don? ;-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:20 PM

News Alert!

I have taken to heart a post on the "Instrument Thread" from Brother Spleen Cringe. The suggestion being that Wavylimpdick may not be the right way to address Franks. The Spleen will no longer cringe as I have now pledged to refer to David as WavyFunkyWhiteBoyRacist.

I really couldn't prove he's a limpdick although he is certainly suspect. However, the new term he has proven himself through his many posts and links. I hope this works for all of you as well and I sincerely apologize for not correcting this earlier.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:23 PM

Don, why are you bothering getting into a lather with some racist little fuckwit who has already demonstrated that he knows bugger-all about music, poetry, history or anything, in fact, save driving fork-lift trucks?
It's like watching an elephant trying to swat a gnat. David Franks is too purblind, pig ignorant and thick skinned to be worth arguing with. Just accept the fact that there's probably something rather disturbed and inadequate about the poor chap (which clearly prevents him holding down a proper job and forces him to sponge off the state) and realise that he's probably more to be pitied than scorned. Or would be if he wasn't a racist.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:24 PM

It's about time we all had a sincere apology from you, Spaw. Geez, man, I have waited years for this. YEARS, I tell you! This is almost as good as Obama winning the election. I'm breaking out the champagne here, man. Thanks! ;-D

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:48 PM

"Now Smokey has called also called me a "whiteboy" before adding "Of course, in the good old days they'd have banished him to the colonies..."...you seem to have about as much respect for Aborigines as Don. But, again, none of you have any seem to have any problem with that - just my questioning of THE ACT OF IMMIGRATION ITSELF..."

The problem is the gounds on which you question it, Whiteboy, and note carefully the capital 'W', and the absence of an 'a'. Not that it makes much difference; either way I think you're a racist twat.

Respect for 'Aborigines'? I don't know any. I'd hazard a guess that you are right though, and I have about as much respect for them as Don. For what it's worth, I'm ashamed and disgusted at what treatment they've had at the hands of Our Good Culture, and you have done nothing to rectify that. You should offer an apology to both Don and I for that remark. You don't even know the meaning of the word 'respect', you sad twat.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 07:21 PM

Little Hawk: "...what was it you just said to me, Don? ;-)"

Uh . . . I forget.

No lather on my part, Gervase. But an occasional full-throated snarl will often send the little rodent scurrying back into his hole. The operational part of my post was to ask David where the hell he got that. Did he actually read what I had posted on the movie thread? Doubtful. So where did he get the idea? I don't expect an answer, of course, because David is not into answers. But I am kind of curious as to which of his "poems" he would cite in an effort to substantiate my alleged disrespect for Indigenous Australians.

Just a note: part of my post about "Quigley Down Under" on the movie thread.

It takes place in the late eighteen-hundreds in Australia. Matthew Quigley (Tom Selleck) is an American cowboy hired to come to Australia because he is a crack shot with a long-range rifle. Sniper type. The man who hires him is Elliott Marston (Alan Rickman), who owns a ranch (station?), and Quigley is under the impression that he's being hired to kill varmints that are plaguing Marston's livestock. Marston has a different idea of what constitutes "varmints,"

Marston wants Quigley to kill any Indigenous Australians he finds on Marston's land.

and when Marston tells Quigley what he wants him to do, Quigley picks him up and throws him bodily out his own front door. Their relatationship kinda goes downhill from there. . . .

I used the term "Aborigines," not being aware that it might be regarded as pejorative, then duly apologized later in case I had offended anyone in my ignorance.

I notice, however, that David uses the word freely. Perhaps like throwing the "N-word" around without regard for whom he might offend.

I mean, if we're going to be strictly PC, then for heaven's sake, let's go all the way!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 07:35 PM

It's sometimes a little difficult to know the acceptable terminology, because not everyone within a particular group agrees themselves. Some native Americans don't at all mind being called "Indians" (an indication that Columbus was really lost and totally clueless about where he actually was), whereas others find the word offensive. The terms "black" and "African-American" are also subject to conflict. Some find them offensive, while others prefer either one or the other.

I tend to think that Caryn Elaine Johnson (better known as "Whoopi Goldberg") has the right idea. She said, "Why African-American? My family has been in this country for generations. I don't regard myself as African-American. I'm an American."

I'll drink to that!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 11:32 PM

Chongo tells me that these problems arise among apes and monkeys too...as to which word is considered acceptable and which isn't. Some chimps find the word "chimp" itself insulting and insist on the full term "chimpanzee", while others prefer terms like Primate-American, or African-Primate-American. "Knuckle-dragger" is frowned upon by most, while "banana peeler" is looked upon more favorably as long as it isn't preceded by the word "dirty".

Whatever the case....the expression "poop flinger" is definitely considered an extreme pejorative by ALL chimps nowadays, and one should not use the term under ANY circumstances.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 11:54 PM

Here's an example of rank specism at its very worst! Be warned that it contains very upsetting scenes that may offend you deeply and cause you to lose sleep, foam at the mouth, and write angry letters to you congressman.

This is as bad as it gets

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 01:40 AM

"one should not use the term under ANY circumstances."

Not even under extreme provocation in apt circumstances?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 09:12 AM

Well...it's your lookout, man. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 12:21 PM

I dunno.... I'm torn between poop flinger and knuckle dragger. I wouldn't want to appear politically incorrect. Speaking of which, the immigrunt seems to be having a day off - perhaps he's out looking for a job.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 05:26 PM

Another common expression for denoting a primate is "mangopicker". It can be taken either positively or negatively depending on the context, the tone of voice, and the facial expression of the speaker.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 05:31 PM

1200!!!!!!!!!!!

Banana dacquiris all around!