BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 May 10 - 04:56 AM

""LOL.....So Don, try this: Go to your mirror again and say "40 inch dick" and see what happens.""

Be fair Bobert.

BB has one of the finest minds of the twelfth century.

LOL
Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 May 10 - 11:02 PM

I donno, mouser...

I mean, I like Bruce but I think that he has some serious problems with living in these times... I think he should have been born a couple hundred years ago in the South into a prosperous white family...

But if I had my druthers, I'd have him born a couple hundred years ago into a slave family...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 21 May 10 - 10:57 PM

Shit, Bobert, you think [i]evidence[/i] matters in a shit-sling like bruce the hirsute prefers?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 May 10 - 09:37 PM

Well, lets just lay out the facts... The Tea Party candidate who just won the Republican primary in Kentucy believes that business owners, such as Woolworths back a long time ago, have the right to deny service to anyone they don't ahppen to like for whatever reason??? Hmmmmmm??? For black folks who remember growing up in Jim Crow America the fact that there are that many Americans out there still who harbor these beliefs has to be terrifying...

Hey, I ain't black but I find it terrifying... I really thought we were a little further down the road... Guess not...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 May 10 - 08:06 PM

Bruce, refreshing every thread that you think kind of corroborates your contention that we are equating the Tea Party with the KKK does not give credence to your opinion. If you'll notice, people spoke up in opposition to the notion. The straws you are grasping will not sustain you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 10 - 07:15 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:41 PM

Well, well, well...

Seems that cmaping out doesn't have to involve camping equipement afterall???

So there ya' have it, Sawz... As fir yer latest attempt at playin' fact-checker-from-hell... Sorry, pal, but thinks you got an F...

But keep anaylizing everything I say and how I say it... Shoot, too bad Miss Gardner ain't around... She was the English-teacher-from-hell... Ya'll would hit off real well... Sho nuff would...

(Hey, Boberdz... How do you know that Ms. Gardener ain't around??? Maybe she is and like a 100 years old and maybe she visits this joint and maybe, jusy maybe, she is Sawz???)

Nah... I mean, she'd be more like 105 and that's a tad on the old side fir this joint... Or any joint, fir that matter...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Alice
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:35 PM

"Camped out" means the same in the western states, too. Not just a southern term.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:19 PM

""Camped out" must be a southern term"

Common Aussie term too.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 07:05 PM

""U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan when asked whether   individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of the president, Donovan said, "Of course not."

The individuals would never have gotten in close proximity to the president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he said. A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is protecting the president and weapons are not allowed on a federal site, he added."...""

I bet Bobby Kennedy would have appreciated the irony of that comment.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 06:58 PM

""Can I call you and idiot if your opinion is different from yours?""

No Sawz!....If that were the case you would have to call me schizophrenic.

And a lousy typist.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 12:12 AM

Way to strain a gnat and miss the camel, Bruce. You'd make a good Republican.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:41 PM

What's the difference??? That makes it just that much worse seein' as handguns are repsonsible for the bulk of the murders in this country... No matter, it was a purdy big gun perfectly capable of taking out anyone the guy wanted to take out... That is the point...

Had I shown up at a rally where Bush was going to speak with a 9mm and a sign that eluded to the shedding of blodd, I would have been arrested or shot... That is the real point here... Not what kind of gun it was...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:25 AM

Bobert,

"It was a Smith and Wesson 9mm pistol."

NOT a rifle.


Your continuous repeating of a false detail impacts the percieved validity of the rest of what you say.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 07:39 AM

Ahhhh, and now for the rest of the quote, The tree of Liberty "must be refresed from time to time with the *blood* of patriots and tyrants"... Like mouse said, yes folks are entitled to their own opinions, just not *their* own "facts"...

The fact is the guy had some kinda rifle strapped to his leg... and that sign... Don't take a Menza Society member to fully comprehend the message...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:31 AM

That is a good article. But it's preaching to the choir. Nobody it's aimed out would get it -- it's just more "playing the race card" (meaning saying anything at all about race rather than just bobbing and pretending that everything is just grand).

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:25 AM

Before anyone posts anything else...didja read the link Alaska Mike posted? (use the URL, not the link)

Go do it please.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:21 AM

"The guy had the "Tree of Libert sign"


It was a sign with a quote from Thomas Jefferson who also said "For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."

and a gun (not a pistol) straped to his leg where Obama was getting ready to speak... Do you deny this???

It was a Smith and Wesson 9mm pistol.

Kostric, who is in his mid-30s and lives near Concord, N.H., said he never entered the town hall or laid eyes on Mr. Obama, who was ushered into the event held in a local school through a back entrance.

Kostric said the Portsmouth police initially asked him to move 1,000 feet away from the school, but then permitted him to stay on the grounds of a church because it was private property. (Federal law generally restricts carrying firearms within 1,000 feet of school grounds, but the law does not apply "on private property not part of school grounds" or to anyone with a carry permit, with Kostric says he has.)

"I was weighing my options," Kostric said. "I was considering walking out to the car and dropping off my firearm and coming back. (The policeman) got off hte phone and relayed to me, that if I wanted to stand on the church property, which is about 30 feet from where I already was, that would be acceptable because it was private property."

Kostric: "Personally, I think Obama is a very charismatic speaker. I can certainly see why people are attracted to him, though I'm surprised at his politics in general, since he has taught classes in constitutional law.

I haven't felt that our country has been headed in the right direction since I first took notice of politics. In fact, it was only because I thought things were going so poorly that I took any notice of politics at all. Certainly when things are going our way we tend to become complacent.

I campaigned for the impeachment of Clinton. I campaigned for the impeachment of Bush. I'm not fond of Obama's policies and I'm sure I'd dislike McCain's just as much (I did live in Arizona)."

U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan when asked whether   individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of the president, Donovan said, "Of course not."

The individuals would never have gotten in close proximity to the president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he said. A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is protecting the president and weapons are not allowed on a federal site, he added."

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 11:51 PM

Everybody has a right to their own opinion. Nobody has a right to their own facts.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 11:24 PM

Don(Wyziwyg)T

You have a right to your opinions, Bobert has a right to his opinions.

Do I have a right to my opinions? Can I call you and idiot if your opinion is different from yours?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 01:00 PM

Yeah, Don, I know all about his tricks... 9 out of 10 of them are to divert attention from the issue at hand...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 12:54 PM

"""Camped out" must be a southern term, Sawz... Nothin' cute about it... That's the way folks talk down here... I mean, people camp out to get tickets for events, to get into a Walmart sale, lots of stuff... No camping gear... Geeze... I thought that folks used that term all over""

And you were right mate. They do!

Don't mind Sawz, he has these little tricks he uses when he can't think of a sensible response, like claiming to ignore me "because I'm always bitching" (translation:- I don't agree with his latest petulant rant), or nit-picking over grammar or language (as he just did with you).

It's jest a Dumbshit thang!

LOL
Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 08:46 PM

"Camped out" must be a southern term, Sawz... Nothin' cute about it... That's the way folks talk down here... I mean, people camp out to get tickets for events, to get into a Walmart sale, lots of stuff... No camping gear... Geeze... I thought that folks used that term all over... Guess not... Not meant to mislead... Thought is was a common phrase... Guess not???

Doesn't change much... The guy had the "Tree of Libert sign" and a gun (not a pistol) straped to his leg where Obama was getting ready to speak... Do you deny this???

If so then you are terribly uniformed... The pics were all over the place...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 05:15 PM

Well that didn't work, sorry. Here's the link.

http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 05:11 PM

Those of you who believe the Teabaggers are harmless and just expressing their 1st amendment rights should try "The Imagine Game".

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 03:38 PM

""He was leaving when a man who seemed "deranged" approached and called him an "idiot,"

"Deranged" is only his interpretation of the man's condition (I'm assuming he has no psychiatric qualifications), and is merely his opinion.

Even were the man "deranged", he offered only verbal abuse until attacked by Rice, and then defended himself.

The "terrorist" (wrong word, but you wouldn't know any better) was the man who threw the first punch.

A criminal act of assault, which renders the victim justified in fighting in defence of his safety.

Take it to any court and watch it get thrown out.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 12:59 PM

Bobert: "camp outside where a black president is about to speak"

Why are you now claiming that he was camped outside? Did he have any camping gear?

No. You purposefully ad on things that you dream up to ad more stink to your stink bomb.

Just something else that you can play your cute games with when someone asks you for the source of your information.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 12:41 PM

Thank you for calling me an idiot.

He was leaving when a man who seemed "deranged" approached and called him an "idiot,"

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 05:12 PM

""The guy that threw the punch deserved to have his finger bitten off and called an idiot because he said he did not support a public health insurer option.""

No idiot, the guy that threw the first punch deserved what he got because he threw the first punch.

He was the aggressor, and if anyone was a terrorist it was him.

If somebody is shouting at you, that doesn't confer upon you the right to punch his lights out. If you choose to do so you are committing a criminal act of assault, and he is entitled to defend himself from your attack.

So, once again, who is the terrorist (your word), and who the victim here.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 04:09 PM

Which Tea Party?

The Palin Party which wants God's values to be enforced with guns and target domestic enemies called Democrats ?

Or the Ron Paul Party that wants the Goverment out of the family value and the Fed monetary business and just leave people alone ?

Or Mr. T's Tea Party? Pity the Foo

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:47 PM

I apologize again. I made another mistake.

A plurality of voters agree with the tea party, according to the poll.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:35 PM

Then there's sample selection....

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:32 PM

Still not true. A plurality of voters agree with the tea party, according to the poll. This still leaves open the question of whether the poll was asking fair and non-leading questions, how many of the tea party's planks* were taken into consideration, etc.

*Oh wait. They don't have planks. Just screaming points.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:24 PM

I made a mistake, I apologize.

A plurality of Americans side with the tea party.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:14 PM

There is no majority. 48%, if the largest chunk, is called a plurality. Is English your first language?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:57 PM

Lemme see if 48 is more than 44 that means to me that more people side with the Tea party than don't.

If not then the 44% would be the majority.

So which is the majority?

If there is no majority, I apologize for making a mistake and say that more Americans side with the tea party than they do with Obama.

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The guy that threw the punch deserved to have his finger bitten off and called an idiot because he said he did not support a public health insurer option.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:30 PM

OOPS should finish shut up about the other side. Rice convicts himself with those comments.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:28 PM

""Comments about what? For lack of finding anything to comment on, I would have to say it is filled with bitterness and rage about something but I don't know what.

You need to focus and be specific.   Posted by Sawzaw""

Specifically my thick friend, for the third time of asking, your comments on my response to your question:-

""When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?    Posted by Sawzaw""

My response, which you have so far avoided answering, was as follows:-


""Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

Well, to me there is another question to be answered first.

A verbal exchange of views took place, and then one party escalated the situation into physical violence.

Was that party the one you describe as a terrorist?........NO!.......See below.

""Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off,""

""Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.""

Maybe the man he punched felt even more threatened and also felt that he had no choice but to defend himself.

You make a very poor case for calling the man who first offered violence a victim, and the man he assaulted a terrorist.

I think you might need to re-examine your argument.

Don T.""

Comments on that?......Who started the physical violence? Put up, or shut up about

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:11 PM

What planet are you from, Sawz??? Did you really no see the photograph??? It was all over the news... Oh, that's right... You don't watch the news... You watch FOX... Maybe someone else, like Rap, if he's around, can tell ya' what kinda rifle it was... It ceratinly wasn't a pistol... It was some kinda shortened rifle...

No, Reagan was merely shot by "some kind of nut" that nothing to do with his political leanings but some obsessive compulsive thing (you know about them) for Jodie Foster...

As for lefties being armed and dangerous??? Not, in general, these days... Unlike the righties who are getting away with a lot of stuff that got lefties killed or arrested in the 60's the lefties have learned that the government will kick yer ass if you promote any of the usual crap that the right routinely gets away with... We definately have a dual standard here... The ignorant people get a pass and the intellegent ones get a butt whup...

That's why the guy with the gun wasn't arrested... Had I gone to a Bush rally with heat and a sign that suggested that that I might use it you can bet that the "athorities" would have come up with some law to have me arrested... You can take that to the bank...

But, no. the Tea Partiers will party until their is another Oklahoma City bombing and then sanity will prevail... Seems we never learn... There are over 800 hate groups in this country and here we are givin' a pass to folks who are in the streets acting quite hostile...

Tell ya'll what... If you support the Tea Party then when the next bombing takes place that blood will be on yer hands... Not mine...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 12:58 PM

Sawz: 44% hold the opposite view and believe the president's views are closer to their own.

Is 44% less that 48%??

Look up "majority". It means more than 50%. You were wrong. Get over it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 12:33 PM

44% hold the opposite view and believe the president's views are closer to their own.

Is 44% less that 48%??

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"the guy with the rifle strapped to his leg at an Obama speech"

Is 1t even possible to strap a rifle to your leg? Show me how it is done.

When Bobert gets one of these "facts" of his in his teeth he's like a snappin' turtle. You can cut off the turtle's head and he still won't let go.

Tell me Bobert, did he break any laws? Was he drinking moonshine and smokin pot?

Secret Service: armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," said Ed Donovan, a secret service spokesman. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

"Paul Helmke, the president of a gun control group, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said the presence of armed protesters near the president was a recipe for trouble."

HMMMMMMM wasn't Brady shot by some left wingnut that was aimin' for Reagan? The gang that couldn't shoot straight?

The scary protester's weapon was not concealed and legal.

Hinckley's weapon was concealed and illegal.

You gotta watch those lefties, armed and dangerous.

Maybe even drunk on 'shine and high on pot cause they don't believe in the law.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 07:56 AM

Well, the demon in the wording in that poll is "activist"... If you want to get the poll numbers to reflect yer own bias then you load the questions up words that have been domonized and you'll get exactly what you want... That's the problem with polls... My college Stats professor spent an entire hour expalining how that works... Very tricky... Well, not really tricky at all...

BTW, I was watching the Timothy McVeigh tapes on MSNBC last night and at one point it mentioned the phrase that I have made reference to that was on the sign that the guy with the rifle strapped to his leg at an Obama speech... I hadn't been able to pull it up in my rememberator but it was "The Tree of Liberty" quote (think it was by Jefferson but I'll Google it up when I have time tonight) that suggests using violence... Seems that is the common thread that the extremist use to justify their hatreds...

BTW, has Obama come to any of ya'll rightie's door demanding you give him all yer guns???

Didn't think so...

BTW, Part 2, Tim McVeigh was also convinced that the government was going to take away yer guns...

Hmmmmmmmmm???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:14 AM

48% is not a majority. Math. It's not just for scientists anymore.

Further it's just "voters" -- which is about 50% of the population. So less than 25% of the population wants a less activist government. Probably the same people who don't realize that Medicare is a government-run program.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:06 AM

Well Well Well

Seems like the majority of Americans agree with the tea party.

Get out your standard rant on polls Bobert.

...On major issues, 48% of voters say that the average Tea Party member is closer to their views than President Barack Obama...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 18 Apr 10 - 01:30 AM

"Your comments SoreJaw?"

Comments about what? For lack of finding anything to comment on, I would have to say it is filled with bitterness and rage about something but I don't know what.

You need to focus and be specific.

Try some of that Moonshine and pot that helps Bobert keep it together, helps him keep his anger under control, but not his ego.

That would take one of those dilithium crystal powered deflector shields like they have on the U.S.S. Enterprise that stops those photon torpedoes that the ugly ass Klingons fire when they uncloak their Bird of Prey.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 07:43 PM

Bingo, Amos... They are, in essence, a party (?) with no real thoughful positions...

They don't like taxes but they offer no alternative...

They want their freedom but don't say what freedoms that have been taken away from them...

They want their country back... Wait just a friggin' minute... So do I but I want if back from the righties...

I mean, everything they say is conflicted... They are like a two-year old having a temper tantrum... It's downright embarrassing knowing the rest of the world is seeing just how dumbed down our country has become... I mean, embarrassing...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 06:44 PM

Thee TEa Party is the embodiment of who or what is freaking.   If they could articulate clear arguments and define policy preferences they would be a potential force; as it is they seem to spout meaningless generalities, much in the way GoS does when she's having a bad karma day.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 08:31 AM

STILL NO RESPONSE FROM SOREJAW, I SEE!

Funny how he fades into the background when called to account for his nonsense.

And of course Gone from Sanity appears, spouting the usual crap.

So predictable you might think they were the same person.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 08:28 AM

Define, "libs", GfS...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 02:36 AM

Jeez!..It sounds like the libs are freaking. Not because of the Tea Party, who they fear, but rather the American public who has caught on, in increasing numbers that their days are numbered.
Also, just watched a Democratic pollster predict them losing the House and Senate in November...BIG TIME!....unless they change their spending spree, and get off their 'policies of nonsense'.

Hey, don't blame me..I already knew they were crackpots, and now the American public in a wide margin wants them OUT!

Too bad the Republicans aren't much better!

Think peace!

GfS