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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: beardedbruce Date: 25 Feb 10 - 05:16 PM "That was his point, not some sweeping all-embracive generalization, if I may venture to interpret his point." NOT according to the thread title. I thought you believed that people should take ownership and responsibility for what they do and post? And what is it with the name calling and personnal insults? Is your arguement THAT weak that you resort to attacking those who present opposing views, rather than the views themselves? Do you hear us calling you one of the fruits and nuts that live in la-la land ( California)? Obviously we have more evidence of that than you have of the composition of anyone's brain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 25 Feb 10 - 05:10 PM I wish it was just one loose screw in the parts cleaner, John.... Have you seen the signs that these folks carry at their rallies??? Google up "Tea Bagger Photos" and get yerself a look at what these folks are thinkin' and sayin' on their signs... I think yer about to get a real education on these folks... BTW, I wasn't going to bring this up but what the heck... Also check out the number of these Tea Baggers who are overweight... (Well, that's their right, Boberdz...) Yeah, it is... I hope they all have their own helth insurance when this condition starts costing US real money 'cause if ther's one thing that bugs me is having my health insurance go up because I'm helpin' to cover a bunch of rednecks who hate the government who think it is their right to eat whatever they want, whenever they want... Sure, it's their right and it's my right to call them on it when ***they say*** they want less government but will be the ones screamin' the loudest when they they get sick for, ahhhhhh, what??? More government!!! Well, at least where they are concerned... Purdy strange times we live in... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 25 Feb 10 - 05:03 PM Well, I dunno anyone who rabidly supports Obama, myself. It is kinda inconsistent, him attracting the more reflective and thoughtful sort. I hasten to agree with John that the whole Tea Party movement should not be tarred. Bobert points out correctly that in the media at least, multiple instances of hate speech and incitement to violence have been observed at some Tea Parties. That was his point, not some sweeping all-embracive generalization, if I may venture to interpret his point. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 25 Feb 10 - 04:56 PM Write in haste, write wrong. Last clause should read "it is I who was wrong." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 25 Feb 10 - 04:53 PM Well Bobert, I would say one of us is wrong. You thought I wouldn't support or make exuses for gun toters on the right. I wouldn't have thought you would tar a whole movement by a few fringies. As I don't condone violence, or threats of violence against those I disagree with, it's not you who is wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 25 Feb 10 - 04:12 PM The same symbolisim applies to tax dodging Moonshiners, guitar pickers who hate GWB, dope dealers and professors who rabidly support Obama. Therefore those groups are dangerous and terrorists. If you can possibly make that abstract formulation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 25 Feb 10 - 03:35 PM Bobert used Stacks deranged hatefulness culminating in violent destruction as a SYMBOL, Sawz. A symbol represents something, and the trick is to correctly grasp what it is that it represents. If you get the symbolism wrong, the dialogue will go haywire at that point. In this case you got the symbolism wrong. Bobert made a valid point about certain siumilarities between the blind hatred of Stack (in his penultimate days) and the kind of vociferous hatred that characterizes some Teabag Party adherents, although not all of them. His POINT was not about Stack but about a cultural environment that inculcates and nurtures hatred and destruction in the guise of false colors such as patriotism and resistance to tyranny, using those as excuses when there are none. Capiche? Bitte seien Sie nicht ein Ananasgehirn beim Vortäuschen, ein intelligenter Mensch zu sein. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 25 Feb 10 - 03:29 PM Bobert: You are using Stack as a straw man as something you use to hang something on teabaggers. He is like you Bobert. Not the teabaggers. Do you see any signs anywhere or any AK47s strapped on his leg? Lead affects the brain first. Let this poor deranged fellow Bush hater rest in peace. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 25 Feb 10 - 11:04 AM Shucks, Amos... You gonna blow my cover here, son... lol... But, yeah, I was kinda blessed with an ability to cut thru the crap and anaylize stuff purdy good... I recall back in college VCU hired T. Edward Temple, who was the governor's Commissioner of the Administration, to facilitate a seminar in "Contemorary Urban Problems" and the class size was limited to 10 students, 3 from the left, 3 from the right and 4 in-tweeners... Over 1000 students applied with their differing perspectives and knowledge bases and I was chosen as one of the 3 leftists... One of the so called in-tweeners was the college presdient, Warren Brandt, who IMO was a rightie so the real make-up of the class was 3 lefties, 3 moderates and 4 righties... At the end of the year the 3 of us on the left had pried all 3 moderates over to the left and were workin' hard on one of the righties, Andy Canada... 'Bout a month after the school year I get a call from Andy, who BTW was the head of the Pharmacy Department at Medical College of Virginia and he tells me that, ahhhhhhhh, not only had he come 'round but that he had hooked up with one of his (liberal) assistant profs!!! Go figure??? Not that that means anything in the big scheme of things, mind you... But I am blessed with an ability to see thru bullshit when it is habded to me as the Holy Grail... But thanks fir the compliment, non the less, 'ol son... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:10 AM Sawz: Lissen to this guy. Even with his pot and his shine and his artificial country grammar, he has more understanding of the flow of things in one earlobe than some of us--including you--have in our whole haids. Listen well, grasshopper. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 25 Feb 10 - 08:35 AM Stack is a straw man, Sawz... Apparently, you haven't gotten the jist of this thread yet which tells me that either you are missing some wiring or you are in denial... Really doesn't much matter which one to me... It's plain as the nose on one's face that you ain't gonna get it... But one more time... We are talkin' about a larger problem/issue/situation than one man here... Yeah, John, that's right!!! What if it had been a group of very rowdy, heavily armed Black Panther lookin' dudes accross the street from a Bush rally??? And they we carrying signs talking about violence... What's not to get here??? You gonna defend these guys??? You gonna say they are just exercising their 1st and 2nd ammmendment rights??? Come on, man... Yer smarter than this... Well, let me put it this way, I thought you were smarter than this... Bottom line, when we not only allow people to act in a mob rule manner but give them face time all over the media it sends out a very strong message... That message is one that I hear 14 and 15 year kids in the local general store mouthing... How many times have you heard a white man say that he'd like someone to "kill that nigger" in reference to Obama??? I've heard it many times over the last couple of years... Ya' see, we have created a culture where that is acceptable... One where these folks aren't not being told that that is not right... I don't know if you havbe ever lived in the South but I've lived in it most of my life and I've stumbled on Klan rallies, I've seen burned crosses, I've seen a sign in Varina, Va, with the crosshairs of a rifle scope painted on a 20 foot sign with the words "Niggers and Communists Beware" and "Minutemen" painted right under that... These are all things I witnessed prior to the assasination of Bobby Kennedy and Martine Luther King... I mean, it may seem innocent enough to you, John, for an angry white man to camp out accross the street froman Obama rally with a gin strapped to his leg and a sign that implies that it is his patriotic duty to spill someoen elses blood in the name of his politics but... ...it ain't okay in my book... Seen that movie and the ending doesn't look much like America... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 25 Feb 10 - 12:48 AM "abstract formulations" are in you head Amos. They are your creation, devoid of the facts that constitute reality. Bobert: That Stack Guy was a guitar picker, He loved country Music and he hated Bush like you Therefore whatever he did can be blamed on you. You are telling people to buy guns and talking about shooting people. A revolt. Terrorist talk. Is this a Bobert quote or a stack Quote? "The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government." "Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes" "I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different." "The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Are you sure you didn't help him write that left wing drivel Bobert? Did he mention Obama One time? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:06 PM Whaaat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 24 Feb 10 - 09:41 PM Okay, John, come to a liberals defense when the next Repub is elected presdient and a liberal shows up at one on his rallies with a gun straped to his leg and a sign talkin' about killin'... Yeah, be sure to mark that down on your list of things you'll do when the tables are turned... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 24 Feb 10 - 08:22 PM It seems that every 'meet and greet' I've attended has been called a Tea Party, so I guess it's become sort of a generic term now. So far no 'how can we obstruct' types of discussions; no Obama is an illegal president; not even Obama is a Socialist. The candidates have spoken about how they feel Conservatives have a valid message based on Constitutional interpretation and action, and how it differs from Liberal interpretation. About the most terrorist they've gotten is to say they plan to beat the bejesus out of Liberals in the coming election at the ballot box. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:52 PM Come on, ya'll... When we start with these kinds of humorous tangents it's like poo-pooin' the crux of the thread which is the hypothesis that the Tea Party should be viewed as a terrorist organization because they are out there preachin' violence... To bring up this or that as being a terrorist organization just plays into Sawz simplistic attempt to take a seroius situation and turn it into a joke.... It won't be a joke when one of these nutballs starts shooting at what he percieves as socialists.... As fir his philosphy lesson??? It more like math and less like real world thinking... Math won't solve squat if and when the right thiknks ut's justified in killing progressives.... We have seen that in our life times and it ain't anything we need to see again... Please... No more jokes unless ya'll is on the right... That's all they have... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Riginslinger Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:49 PM And badger dogs would be real good at going underground. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:14 PM Right. That's what ALL terrorists say at first. Just wait until they get the signal to activate. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM My wiener dogs DO have plans to take over the world...but they aren't doing it for Iraq. They're doing it strictly for themselves. They don't give a tiddly about Iraq, I can assure you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 10 - 05:52 PM Not to mention tunnels. You know how moles are... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Riginslinger Date: 24 Feb 10 - 04:17 PM It's really a problem if they went underground 12,000 years ago. They've probably got a lot of connections by now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 10 - 12:10 PM Are Little Hawk's Dogs a Terrorist Organization????Cosmos Magazine reports: "ARIS: Small domesticated dogs probably originated in the Middle East more than 12,000 years ago as the descendants of grey wolves (Canis lupis). Researchers Melissa Gray and Robert Wayne led a team from the University of California in Los Angeles that searched for variations of a gene called IGF1 which is a characteristic of small dogs. "(The variant) probably arose early in their history," said Gray, whose paper is published online by BMC Biology, an open-access journal. Small domestic dogs at least 12,000 years old "Our results show that the version of the IGF1 gene found in small dogs is closely related to that found in Middle Eastern wolves and is consistent with an ancient origin." The work concurs with archaeological work in the Middle East that has unearthed the remains of small domestic dogs dating to 12,000 years ago. Digs in Europe have uncovered older remains, to as much as 31,000 years ago, but these are of larger dogs. Iraq's Fertile Crescent Canine selection may have been carried out by villagers in the Fertile Crescent of modern-day Iraq and other cradles of agriculture. "Small size could have been more desirable in more densely packed agrarian societies where dogs may have lived partly indoors or in confined outdoor spaces," says the study. Most of the Western barnyard animals and the cat were domesticated between 12,000 and 8,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent. Dogs were first domestic animal However, dogs have been considered as an important exception, as they were thought to have been domesticated 1,000 to 5,000 years earlier, while humans were still living and hunter-gatherers. "Domestication is a key feature of the Neolithic Revolution, a suite of cultural innovations and consequences comprising sedentism, and agricultural economy, and complex social arrangements conducive to urban living," write David MacDonald and Carlos Driscoll, in an associated opinion article published in the Journal of Biology. "Gray et al provide evidence that early Middle Eastern dogs segregate for a character, non-adaptive in the wild, that is probably the result of long-term association with humans and must have occurred over many human generations. " If this is the case, the Mounties better look in on Little Hawk's dogs. They may be secret Iraqi moles. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 10 - 12:05 PM Glad to see you defending logic, Sawz. Keep up the good attitude! But just as a comment, the formulation that if A+B=C the C-B=A is only true of closed systems and mechanics. In real life, where things are constantly in flux and beliefs pro and con have a large bearing, the use of abstract formulations can quickly go awry. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 24 Feb 10 - 09:52 AM Why does Bobert base his conclusions, which later turn into Bobert "facts", on ifs? "If Amy Bishop had murdered John Roberts" If Bobert would apply the same logic on Amy Bishop that he applys to Stack, would he come to the same conclusion? What if "If Stack had murdered John Roberts"? People fail to look at things both ways to test their hypothesis. If A + B = C then C -B = A However this requires logical thinking which is difficult for some people. Therefore they are continually unhappy and complain constantly because things don't turn out the way they think it should have. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Riginslinger Date: 24 Feb 10 - 08:25 AM Then, of course, there's Winnie Mandela, but then, that was a different country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:21 AM Well, bruce, that much is prolly true... I'd like to see the data on the white folks... They are the ones who traditionally have used murder for political gain in this country... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Feb 10 - 06:59 AM Bobert, An overly large number of "all the folks who have been convicted of murder and voted in the last election " were Black. 1. murderers by race for 2004 ( example year- feel free to look for others that mat The vast majority of those who are Black and who voted in the last election voted for Obama. 2. http://www.chacha.com/question/what-percent-of-black-voters-voted-for-obama-in-the-most-recent-american-presidential-election So, unless you claim that NO non-blacks voted for Obama, the only conclusion that can be determined is that MORE Obama supporters are murderers than McCann supporters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 23 Feb 10 - 10:25 PM If Amy Bishop had murdered John Roberts of John Bonehead then we'd have something to talk about here... She didn't... She, like other wackos, murdered co-workers... Actually, given what the left learned in the 60s about just how terrorism can turn a nation around for decades, it would be interesting to revisit the country in 20 years if Obama supporters were to become a terrorist organization... But that is just hypothetical... Reality is that the left in this country ain't about the kinds of things the the right is willing to rationalize to either stop the left and/or to hold power... The Tea Party movement is flush with folks ready and willing to kill folks on the left... Their signs and rhetoric are filled with threats of violence... This is a reality that has nothin' to do with a wacked out college professor who went "postal" at the work place... Those folks, sad to say, seem to follow a certain pattern of killing people they worked with... No politics involved... BTW, it would be very interesting to poll all the folks who have been convicted of murder and voted in the last election and see just what party is producing the most murderers??? I'd put my money on the Repubs as the murder party but, hey, there ain't no studies that I know of??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 23 Feb 10 - 09:41 PM The professor, Amy Bishop that murdered three people with a gun and shot three others was allegedly an avid Obama supporter and a left winger. Can we conclude that left wing Obama supporters are a terrorist organization? "A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was "obsessed" with President Obama to the point of being off-putting." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 23 Feb 10 - 09:39 PM I agree Amos. Keep up the good attitude. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 23 Feb 10 - 03:53 PM Doesn't much matter, Amos... The Preamble is an importrant statement... It lays down a vision for our nation... If one takes that vision and applies it to the recent Suprme Court decisions or actions of the Repubican Party then there is something terribly amiss... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 23 Feb 10 - 03:42 PM OK, Sawz. The Constitution as it is published currently has a Preamble. No problem. Rachel was wrong about the Preamble part. She must have been thinking of the original version which does not label its parts that way. Oh, and the Senator's quote was not where he said it was, but from the Declaration of Independence. God knows what he was thinking of... Any questions? Sheeeeshe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 23 Feb 10 - 03:38 PM "It strikes me as nearly insane to try and make a point from last October as though it were true in the present, especially since it was just refuted last week. There's a scope of relevance in these things, depending on the magnitude of the subject--but this point of Dowd's was overcome by events LONG since. Are you trying to pretend it did not happen because someone said last Ovtober it hadn't happened? Or what?" If I knew specifically what you were talking about I might be able to answer your question Amos. If it is about the Dowd article, it was in regards to her stating the Constitution has a preamble and it was in bold so you could see it. Don: It was a question like Bobert's question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: mousethief Date: 23 Feb 10 - 01:56 PM What we need is a Realist Party who carry signs that say "No Medicare Without Taxation." O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Stringsinger Date: 23 Feb 10 - 01:12 PM It's really hard to generalize here. There are some who are brandishing weapons and others who are scared, confused and disgruntled. There is one common denominator here though. Racism. There are very few black people at these rallies. Terrorism is another buzz-word like communism to make people afraid and angry. It is usually misapplied for political purposes. The so-called Tea Party bears little resemblance to the participants of the original Tea Party in Massachusetts. This trumped-up Dick Armey Tea Party is not unified and does not contain any useful vision for the economic woes we face today. It's a reactive party, not a pro-active one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: mousethief Date: 23 Feb 10 - 11:55 AM The screaming banshees at the summer political rallies were hardly "occasional." The people with posters about watering democracy with blood were hardly "occasional". The crowds at Palin's rallies who were whipped up to "kill him!" frenzy were hardly occasional. This is the face of the Tea Party. It's not some maniacal tiny subset. It's the Tea Party at its LCD best. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 23 Feb 10 - 01:17 AM I speak for myself, BB. Bobert is perfectly capable of speaking for himself. And I was talking to Sawzaw. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 22 Feb 10 - 07:39 AM Well, bb, that is not waht I have said, at all... That is just more BB-BS... This isn't about me... I know you love makin' it about me seeing as your a charter member of the Bobert Fan Club... Buty reality is that, like I have said, the right wing, just as the past are not above or below using violence or the threat of violence to achieve their goals... That is what terrorism is all about... But you faithful Bobert fans don't want to address that reality 'cuase it's always more fun to just attack me??? Go figure... Wonder why ya'll won't stand up and defend or denouce the vilence that threats that are very much a ceneterpiece of the Tea Baggers??? Or why there aren't people of color in the many picures you see of the rallies??? Those are the real issues... Not your childish games which all you Bobert Fan Clubbers are so fond... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: beardedbruce Date: 22 Feb 10 - 07:12 AM Disingenuous, Don Firth. The point is that Bobert has now started two threads that state those he opposes are racsit or terrorist because a few people that agree with them are. The Tea Party movement, or Palin --or their large number of supporters --can hardly be held responsible for the occasional maniacal bigot who also favored them over Obama's policies. Are you suggesting that everyone who voted for against is a terrorist? That covers quite a bit of territory. And it is what Bobert is trying to do. We keep giving equivilent examples that yyou don't like- MAYBE you should reign in BOBERT who thinks this typoe of thread is appropriate, instead of complaing abotu those who are in agreement with you on principles, if not policies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 21 Feb 10 - 05:37 PM Sawz: It strikes me as nearly insane to try and make a point from last October as though it were true in the present, especially since it was just refuted last week. There's a scope of relevance in these things, depending on the magnitude of the subject--but this point of Dowd's was overcome by events LONG since. Are you trying to pretend it did not happen because someone said last Ovtober it hadn't happened? Or what? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: mousethief Date: 21 Feb 10 - 04:31 PM Would be, Little Hawk, if they weren't so damned sexy. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Feb 10 - 04:25 PM It's almost as irresponsible as implying that everyone who voted for Chongo Chimp is a terrorist... But what about those rolly derby girls? Horrifying, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 21 Feb 10 - 03:38 PM Disingenuous, Sawzaw. Obama--or his large number of supporters (remember, he did get elected)--can hardly be held responsible for the occasional maniacal bigot who also favored him over another candidate. Are you suggesting that everyone who voted for Obama is a terrorist? That covers quite a bit of territory. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Feb 10 - 03:33 PM Let me ask you this.... Is the Roller Derby League a terrorist organization??? I think so. These girls are needlessly violent and they're dedicated to punching people's heads in. I call that terrorism. ;-) When you hear the names of the teams, you KNOW it's terrorism. How about "The Queens of Pain" and the "Manhattan Mayhem", for instance? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 21 Feb 10 - 01:53 PM Are Obama supporters a terrorist organization |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 20 Feb 10 - 09:47 PM Dear Amos: Go find a college professor and maybe he can help you out. Nah, I ain't that arrogant. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/opinion/18dowd.html You are right about the Boner quoting from the DI and saying it was from the Constitution. But did you see the arms waving when Maddow said "Constitution doesn't have a preamble" You are such a fan of arm wavers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Feb 10 - 09:10 PM Well, yeah, that is the preamble to the Constitution... It is easily Googled... And it outlines the general principles that the rest of the document try to codify... Alot of folks don't really pay much attention to it because it doesn't fir their particular biasesa dn prejudices but I think it states very clearly the intent of the Founding Fathers... "insure domestic tranquility" is the part that disturbs me about the right wing in this country... And I think if Tom Jefferson has seen the guy with the gun strapped to his leg at a rally where the president was to speak that ol' Tom would say, "Hey, this wasn't what we had in mind"... Yeah, Thomas Jefferson did say that the document would have to be revsisted from time to time... I'm not even sure that he thought it would survive even for a 100 years but I am sure that he would not be a Tea Partier these days but quite the opposite... "to form a more perfect ****union*****"... Not just words... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 20 Feb 10 - 08:21 PM Just a passing observation: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Ahem. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Feb 10 - 07:52 PM Silly tangent here... What Racael Maddow does have correct is the pass that the Tea Baggers are getting with their ever increasing violent message... This is beyond 1st ammendment rights as no one has the right to yell "Fire" in a theater unless there is a fire... What is happening here is that the right is layin the groundwork for another round of assasinations, this time perhaps being the politicans they don't like to go along with the current assasinations of doctors they don't like... It's time that someone step in and say, "Hey, folks, step back... This is gettin' out of hand here..." Of course, the righties would love nothin' more than to see Obama in a pool of blood... There are righties that talks about it fanticize about it... The problem here is well beyond what it means to our nation in terms of it being a country based upon law but a much more danger ous situation that I have described before where the left stoops to the lowliness of the right and decides, "Screw it, Ralph, I've had enough and I'm going to Richmond and buy me an AK-47"... Then what we could be looking at is as close to a "failed state" as anyone her could imagine... No one in 1850 could have predicted what would occur 10 years later but the early warnings were there... The early warning are here again and unless the right wants to destroy our country, which BTW they say is "theirs", then someone on the right needs to call for a cooling off period 'cause these Tea Baggers are not far behind their brothers in Afganistan, the Taliban... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 20 Feb 10 - 06:41 PM Sawz: Obama just HAD a meeting with the Dalai Lama. What are you on about? Your tale has no date on it. A |
