BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 11:47 PM

Bobert: I don't think rehashing the past for the 2824th time is productive. I am not going to accuse you of having OCD but it seems that way. A display of bitterness.

Where is the common ground, the consensus? How is that making the world a better place?

"Obama is not only a decent man but a very intellectually curious one"

I agree with that. Is there anything I said that you agree with?

The only reason I called you a racist is because you paint entire classes of people as racist unfairly in my opinion and I wondered how you would like it yourself.

I also believe people that unfairly call someone else a racist, are racist them selves. Racism is about unfairness.

The reason I called you a bigot is because one of the definitions of a bigot is someone that is intolerant of anyone else s political views or doctrines. I think you have illustrated your intolerance here.

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

The correct use of the term requires the elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.

Do you believe there ever was or will be a society where everybody agrees on everything?

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 11:49 PM

A Republican, in a wheelchair, entered a restaurant one afternoon and
asked the waitress for a cup of coffee. The Republican looked across the
restaurant and asked, "Is that Jesus sitting over there?"

    The waitress nodded "yes," so the Republican requested that she give
Jesus a cup of coffee, on him.

   The next patron to come in was a Libertarian, with a hunched back. He
shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a
cup of hot tea. He also glanced across the restaurant and asked, "Is that
Jesus, over there?"

The waitress nodded, so the Libertarian asked her to give Jesus a cup of
hot tea, "My treat."

The third patron to come into the restaurant was a Democrat on crutches.
He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, "Hey there honey! How's
about gettin' me a cold mug of Miller Light?" He too looked across the
restaurant and asked, "Isn't that God's boy over there?

The waitress nodded, so the Democrat directed her to give Jesus a cold
beer. "On my bill," he said loudly.

      As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Republican, touched him
and said, "For your kindness, you are healed." The Republican felt the
strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced a jig out the door.

   Jesus passed by the Libertarian, touched him and said, "For your
kindness, you are healed." The Libertarian felt his back straightening up
and he raised his hands, praised the Lord, and did a series of back flips
out the door.

   Then, Jesus walked towards the Democrat, just smiling.

    The Democrat jumped up and yelled, "Don't touch me ... I'm collecting disability."

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 12:44 AM

THIS IS FOR REAL.

Following the devastating earthquake in Haiti, the United States rushed in to help - with money, medicine, and manpower. To date, we've already given over $179 million in humanitarian aid... but Barack Obama has just ordered all U.S. installations to take down their American flags, lest we be seen as an "occupying army" rather than "international partners."

It is patently appalling that a president of the United States would consider our flag to be a symbol of militaristic takeovers and colonialism, especially when serving (to a greater degree than any other nation on Earth) a humanitarian purpose.

Additionally, who would think we'd want to occupy Haiti?!


No other country giving aid in Haiti has lowered its flag. But then again, no other country has a leader who is offended by their own flag.



Hope and Change????

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 12:58 AM

Yes who would possibly equate the US flag with militarism and foreign invasion? Li'l ol' isolationist USA?

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:26 AM

Mouser: "Yes who would possibly equate the US flag with militarism and foreign invasion? Li'l ol' isolationist USA?"

Huh???

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 03:03 PM

How soon we forget!!

(Some people, anyway.)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 03:38 PM

What a bogus, bolloxed up, false-trail bullshit red herring of an issue. GfS, you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. KeeeRIST, the poppycock that invades some people's brains around here is mind-boggling!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 06:43 PM

Well, Sawz... I think we do need to rehash yet again what has gotten US into this mess becasue lots of folks have been led to believe that regulation is "socialism" and/or evil... Until folks understand that regulating certain industry practices, while maybe not what that industry wants, is the tonic then we ain't gonna solve squat...

"A problem cannot be solved with the same conscousness that created it"... Einstein...

In other words, allowing industry to police itself is a recipe for disaster...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: ichMael
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:19 PM

The U.S. mission to Haiti IS a military occupation. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only representative to vote against the "aid" resolution to Haiti. Before the vote Paul said:

"I rise in reluctant opposition to this resolution. Certainly I am moved by the horrific destruction in Haiti and would without hesitation express condolences to those who have suffered and continue to suffer. As a medical doctor, I have through my career worked to alleviate the pain and suffering of others. Unfortunately, however, this resolution does not simply express our condolences, but rather it commits the US government "to begin the reconstruction of Haiti" and affirms that "the recovery and long-term needs of Haiti will require a sustained commitment by the United States. . . ." I do not believe that a resolution expressing our deep regret and sorrow over this tragedy should be used to commit the United States to a "long-term" occupation of Haiti...."

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=547

Rasmussen just reported Ron Paul at 41% and Obama/Soetoro at 42% in the race for president.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41

Obama's handlers know a trend when they see it. Look for Obama to start adopting more of Ron Paul's stances. And that's all they'll be--stances. Or poses, more accurately.

The bigger story in this is that the media has been ordered to turn on Obama, with bits like this thing about the flags. Remember when he could do no wrong? Compare that time to now. He's being slowly jettisoned.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:35 PM

By the "liberal" media.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:42 PM

As for Haiti??? It needa ll the help it can get right now... Hey, I don't think that the folks in Haiti are lookin' at the many fine outsiders who are there helping as colonialists... I don't think Obama or the US even has any aspirations of colonialism 'cause, let's face it, Haiti ain't state material right now... Haiti's resorrces are not what trad-colonilaist think of when lookin' around for some stuff the steal... Quite the opposite with Haiti...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:47 PM

What a load of dingo's kidneys!!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:18 PM

Amos: "What a bogus, bolloxed up, false-trail bullshit red herring of an issue. GfS, you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. KeeeRIST, the poppycock that invades some people's brains around here is mind-boggling!!"

Now that's what I call a great 'dialogue'...with supporting facts, as well!...Oh well, what can one expect from a 'progressive'....

Single Sentence Definitions, Beliefs or practices of Progressive

"1. Progressive is a characterization of political belief and practice generally to the left of liberal and to the right of Marxist, yet sharing important overlap with both."

No, thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:39 PM

Yeah, Amos... Even ol' hillbily wondering what it is that GfS said that got that kinda blast???

I mean, I read it as sarcasim... You know, like not real... Yeah, Amos, I'll be the first to admit that GfS, on many occasions, is like GfI (Guest from Insanity...lol) but I think this time (horrors) I think that GfS is well within the sanity ballpark...

Sorry, pal, I'll make it up to you somehow....

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:46 PM

Thanks Bobert...I thought so, too. Too many emotional tantrums from the left side of things, without supporting facts!

By the way, (being as I owe you one).....Remember the 'Womenz' thread?...here's one for you......When was the last time, when you came home from work, (or whatever), did mama, ask, 'How was your day?'

Winking,
GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:51 PM

Oh, for crying out loud. Bobert, GfS posted a piece of crap about people being upset because the US flag was NOT flying over various US aid installations in Haiti. And makes a big deal of same by stressing this is really happening. We're pouring millions of manhours and dollars in to the effort of helping people. Why the F**K should anyone carer if we are flying flags or not? Are they so lamebrained as to think our efforts are less American because we don't wrap them up in a damned FLAG? What's important here--reality? Or a bunch of jingoistic symbols?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 02:48 AM

Amos, oh Dear Amos.....that's what you only THOUGHT it was about??????

I think, because you're head is full of politics, and your love affair with Obama, you missed the point, and bought into the lame rhetoric of this administration!.......Stick to music!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 07:56 AM

Well, first things first... Amos is my bud so I ain't going no futher out from the shore than I have allready waded...

Second things second... Yeah, she asks me every day how things went... Mostly she's lookin' fir me to say something that she disagrees with... lol... Nah, we get along fine now that I have internalized "You can either be right or be happy but not neither"... That is the onlyest way to get along with womenz...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 10:52 AM

Well, sweety, you're the one who stuck it up there, and if it wasn't about what it said but some other mysterious ubertopic, you could have had the decency to say what you really meant.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 11:34 AM

Bobert:

How about allowing an industry to write it's own reform laws?

You can do that when you donate $994,795.00 to Obama's 2008 campaign, $4,463,788 to Democrats and $1,459,961 to Repubs. And that is Goldman Sachs alone.

CNN JOHN KING show Aired April 20, 2010

....They don't have to enforce certain things. Is that what we're talking about here in all these back door regulations? They're going through changing one word at a time through what is hundreds of pages of legislation?

YELLIN: Absolutely. And one staff member on the Hill told me that they refer -- there's something called the blob. The blob is the combination of lobbyists and staffers working on the bill constantly talking and conferring on what should be in it. And it's such a prevalent part, it is just such an accepted part at how business is done, they name it.

KING: It is striking to me because one senator told me this and I went up to another senator who said they're trying to change shall to may. And I went up to another and said so when the Goldman lobbyists come to you and he said shall/may --....

That's how Chris Dodd finally read the TARP bill and discovered his own staffers put in a clause that specifically protected huge Wall Street bonuses.

And they are doing it while the "progressives" are displaying their OCD by still wailing about past issues.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 11:45 AM

Oyez!! Oyez!! Let the record show that Sawz does NOT hold with people being focused on past issues.

All past issues including Sawz' own obsession with past issues are covered by this proclamation.

Any who--as Sawz did in the past--obsess about past issues shall be diagnosed as suffering from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 12:16 PM

Geez!..Amos is getting more frantic, as Obama's approval rating sinks down, and the rest of the nation,(and world) is not so infatuated with his hype. He's really not any better than Bush..actually, I think he's a bit worse.
But, on the other hand, I've gotten more back into my music, composing and recording, and just waiting for the other shoe to drop politically. Frankly, I don't see how anyone can see that we're better off with this administration, over the last!...Can you??????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 12:32 PM

Oyveh Oyveh Oyveh.

Let it be known throughout Mudcatainiastan that Amos the Magnificent, master and black belt holder of the Ad Hominum attack, does no concern himself wjth what is happening under his nose.

He is only concerned with spinning what has happened in the past.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 10:10 PM

TARP??? Wasn't that Bush's???

But nevermind that... Yeah, I am concerned when Obama goes to Wall Street to supposedly read them the riot act and the next day the stocks go up???

For those of you you have been callin' Obmaa a "liberal" or "socialist", ahhhhhh, seems that those labels might have been premature...

Right now, he's very much a Nixon Republican... If that's liberal or socialist then so be it... No leftie here... Okay, he does write leftie and shoots baskettball with his left hand... That's about a far left as the guy is...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 12:07 AM

Bush Schmush! Obama did what George couldn't.....like offshore drilling, taking over GM, not closing Guantanamo, and not getting a lot of flack for it, passing a bill to FORCE Americans to buy health insurance from the insurance corporations, bailing out Wall Street, giving away TRILLIONS of OUR tax money to his cronies....shit! name it!
He's a better Bush, than Bush!....and all while being applauded by the 'left'!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine if George did ANY one of those things!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 04:03 AM

""Imagine if George did ANY one of those things!""

George did a lot worse things than that, and you expect Obama to unravel the mess George left him in just one year.

Who were you confusing him with,.....SUPERMAN?

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 12:24 PM

When are you morons going to quit blaming Bush for EVERYTHING, as an excuse to continue the same policies???..just under a guy who appeals to the other side of the political spectrum??????
Unfortunately, you don't see, that the executive orders that Bush heaped on the executive branch(which were unconstitutional, by the way), and which I pointed out to you all, during the 'election', Obama never repealed!!...but you sure bitched about Bush putting them into effect, when he did it!!!

Now, instead of just re-acting...think about that, for a minute, and think about how this current band of tyrants, now want to screw with our freedom of speech(even on the internet). Remember in the 60's how it was 'Power to the People'?...You think that people have more power now??? You've got to be kidding yourself!!!! We've got the fucking government invading every nano-detail of our lives, and you nitwits keep routing them on!!!!

Bush was wrong, Obama is wrong, Bush Sr. was wrong, Clinton was wrong..and in their bullshit, this nation is eating shit...and you just want them to heap some gravy on it.

Meanwhile, Iran is a sworn, crazy enemy of the west, and pursuing nukes, and you guys think that the Tea Party, the Republicans, and as the thread is titled, the Democrats, are the 'Terrorists'????? Hmmm, sounds like 'Divide and Conquer' to me...and you just keep driving in the wedges, in the name of God only knows what insanity drives you!!!!!

Meanwhile, our borders are porous, to a lot more than just Mexicans, and you guys try to make a 'civil rights' issue of it. Buddy, we're being invaded by a lot more than 'illegal immigrants' looking for welfare or tax free money to send home!

Yes, right wing and left wing are on the same bird, and we're getting the crap kicked out of us!

You might smoke your pot, and think of some ethereal folk song lick on your axe, to lull you into a stupor, but there are those in the world who would love to destroy America, both within and without, and are driven to do so. Hey, have another hit. Maybe you can score and charge it on your credit card!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 12:41 PM

Um, Obama overturned a LOT of Bush's executive orders in his first 100 days.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 12:44 PM

The moronic element here, GfS, is that you are painting everyone on this forum into one generality and accusing it of all kinds of wild ideas which many of us do not sahre. You get so heated and histrionic in your righteous condemnation that you lose a good deal of accuracy, and any trace of relative civility. This makes you more a moron than those you seek to lambast.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 01:52 PM

Amos, not only do you just make shit up...you can't spell. To quote you, in regards to that..."You get so heated and histrionic in your righteous condemnation that you lose a good deal of accuracy, and any trace of relative civility. This makes you more a moron than those you seek to lambast." .....and it's lambaste..'share' is not, "sahre."...and the charge was not to.."everyone on this forum into one generality and accusing it of all kinds of wild ideas"....but then YOU'RE the one who replied. Do your ears always perk up, when you hear the words 'moron', and 'nitwit'....then come running?

Stick to music. That's where you're talented!


As for overturning Bush's stuff...not the ones that mattered, as far as making the executive branch out of balance of powers.


GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 04:59 PM

Ah so you admit you lied.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: DougR
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 05:44 PM

Gee, what a civil thread.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 06:15 PM

On politics? You're new aren't you?

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 07:39 PM

Doug R: "Gee, what a civil thread."

As in 'civil war'?????

Jeez, I hope not. I'd rather people share ideas, and come to a logical, truthful conclusion...and those who are interested in the truth, would then come to unity......I mean, if you want something to REALLY sing about!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 07:42 PM

lambast:


S: (v) cane, flog, lambaste, lambast (beat with a cane)
S: (v) call on the carpet, take to task, rebuke, rag, trounce, reproof, lecture, reprimand, jaw, dress down, call down, scold, chide, berate, bawl out, remonstrate, chew out, chew up, have words, lambaste, lambast (censure severely or angrily) "The mother scolded the child for entering a stranger's car"; "The deputy ragged the Prime Minister"; "The customer dressed down the waiter for bringing cold soup"


Elsewhere it is described as an alternate spelling for lambaste, Miss Snoot.

Ordinary typos I plead guilty to. The rest of your horsefeathers should be put back around your neck where they can serve some purpose.

Your mindless diatribes are wildly off the mark, wildly uncivil, and reek of black anger or demented self-importance.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 08:25 PM

But at least not 'Progressive' as in Marxist! Which doesn't work....well, I guess it does if tens of millions have to be killed, in order for it to take over a country, as in Russia or China.....and then you're left with very little personal rights!!! What a thing to route for, eh??

GfS

P.S. But then Russia's economy imploded, and China didn't flourish economically till a bit of good ol' capitalism was allowed.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 09:12 PM

Danged!!! I love this place...

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 10:02 PM

And off the other wall! And the ceiling! ...


A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 10:19 PM

Amos, you present a GREAT argument!!

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 12:32 PM

lambast (beat with a cane)

The Caning of Senator Charles Sumner

....Representative Preston Brooks was Butler's South Carolina kinsman. If he had believed Sumner to be a gentleman, he might have challenged him to a duel. Instead, he chose a light cane of the type used to discipline unruly dogs. Shortly after the Senate had adjourned for the day, Brooks entered the old chamber, where he found Sumner busily attaching his postal frank to copies of his "Crime Against Kansas" [anti-slavery] speech.

Moving quickly, Brooks slammed his metal-topped cane onto the unsuspecting Sumner's head. As Brooks struck again and again, Sumner rose and lurched blindly about the chamber, futilely attempting to protect himself. After a very long minute, it ended.

Bleeding profusely, Sumner was carried away. Brooks walked calmly out of the chamber without being detained by the stunned onlookers. Overnight, both men became heroes in their respective regions.

Surviving a House censure resolution, Brooks resigned, was immediately reelected, and soon thereafter died at age 37. Sumner recovered slowly and returned to the Senate, where he remained for another 18 years. The nation, suffering from the breakdown of reasoned discourse that this event symbolized, tumbled onward toward the catastrophe of civil war....

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 01:51 PM

Sawzaw: "Surviving a House censure resolution, Brooks resigned, was immediately reelected, and soon thereafter died at age 37. Sumner recovered slowly and returned to the Senate, where he remained for another 18 years. The nation, suffering from the breakdown of reasoned discourse that this event symbolized, tumbled onward toward the catastrophe of civil war...."

Not unlike the mood of the country, today...fanned by an administration who is governing AGAINST the will of the people. I thought Democrats would be in favor of the Democratic process. This is not what they are about.

By the way, I am adamantly NOT in favor of things reaching a boiling point, to where we have civil unrest...but observing the political wrangling and polarization, divisiveness of Government vs. the people, I can only come to the conclusion, that this must cool down, or we as a nation are headed for a collision.

.....Now, if you needed a topic for something to say in a song...there's one for ya'!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 01:58 PM

I see no evidence the administration is governing against the will of the people. Most of the issues Obama and Co. have addressed were either catastrophic leftovers from Bush, or pretty much what he campaigned on, allowing for the slippage of trying to make things happen in reality.

Obama is plugging ahead doing a decent job, generally speaking. People love to get in uproars about one thing or another, but a lot of that is sound and fury, signifying nothing.
I think financial reform, health reform and immigration reform will make the world a better place. Not as much better as I would like, but better.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 02:12 PM

""Jeez, I hope not. I'd rather people share ideas, and come to a logical, truthful conclusion...and those who are interested in the truth, would then come to unity......I mean, if you want something to REALLY sing about!""

A logical, truthful conclusion?

As long as it is the same conclusion as yours!.........Elsewise we are all morons?

Go put your foil hat back on. Your brain cell is overheating.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 06:21 PM

How is the legislature passing legislation and the president signing it anti-democratic? Are you saying our Constitution's set-up for how to govern the country is undemocratic?

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 08:23 PM

The "democratic process" that everyone keeps talkin' about is deeply flawed... Between the cost of getting elected and the fillibuster it is on life support, at best...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 10:33 PM

Not quite the point I"m trying to make, Bobert. Far From Sanity said, I thought Democrats would be in favor of the Democratic process. My point is they ARE using the democratic process. The truth is FFS just doesn't like what they're doing so he makes up shit about how they're doing it being undemocratic. It's as transparent as a Magritte windowpane.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 12:11 AM

Mouser: " ...My point is they ARE using the democratic process.."

Is that the same as bribing Congressmen for votes, that was NOT reflective of their constituents?? Sweetheart deals for some states, and not all?...Worthless executive orders??

Now, both Amos, and Mouser, that SHOULD BE INDICATIVE of what is wrong, with your assertions. Also Pugh polls show 78% of all Americans think this country is headed in the wrong direction....ever wonder why??.Does that number represent how the will of the people are being ignored???

Come on, the way the 'Health Care Deform' was rammed through should be obvious to you, to at least admit that this was NOT the will of the people....and polls show that the Democrats are going to be shut down in both the House and Senate, in November....FOR THAT REASON!!

Now, just because I posted that, does not mean I'm anti either side or pro either side. I would certainly prefer that the people are represented by the people who they voted for, and if a bill comes to them, that the MERITS of the bill should get the support, and not bribes, intimidation, sweetheart deals, etc etc.....and YES both sides do it, and one wrong does NOT excuse the other!!

Fair enough???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 12:33 AM

Legislation is not based on opinion polls. We are not a direct democracy but a representative democracy. We hire representatives, who then make the laws. If they are legislating against the wishes of their constituents, the constituents' redress is to vote them out of office at the next election. That's how our representative democracy works. But there is nothing in the constitution that requires the representatives to poll their constituents and determine what they want. Why even mention that if your point is that they're not acting democratically? It is a total red herring.

Sweetheart deals for states? This is new? This is newsworthy? This is something only the Democrats do? I agree it's not a good thing. But it's not a stick you can beat the Democrats with.

"Bribing" -- you mean compromise and bartering. Yes that's new too. Ho boy.

"Worthless" executive orders? You mean ones you disagree with, or ones that don't do anything? If the latter, who cares? What harm is done?

We'll see what November brings. Whatever it brings, determining the cause of it won't be as simplistic as you seem to think. Although no doubt we'll have exit polls spun mercilessly by both sides.

Now, just because I posted that, does not mean I'm anti either side or pro either side.

No, of course not. Who would think such a thing?

PS the Democrats have been shut down in the Senate virtually all year by do-nothing Republicans who are bent on nothing but jamming the machinery of Obama's presidency. Your choice of words is humorous.

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 01:06 AM

Mouser, Respectfully, I can see you are not familiar with the news, in regarding this vote and what I'm talking about. I'm sure someone would fill you in...but I'm going back to the studio, right now. You'd be shocked!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 08:22 AM

Too much legislation is written word for word by lobbiests...