Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: frogprince
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 11:00 AM

Gentry's killing of the bear was publicized to show him off as a mighty hunter. When the truth came out, he issued an "apology" which was largely a whine about how someone misguided him into the whole thing. Poor little misguided fellar.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: pdq
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 10:45 AM

"...and forfeit both the stuffed bear and the bow used to shoot the animal in 2004..."

Note that the bear Montgomery Gentry took was killed with bow and arrow.

I don't like what he did, but anyone who thinks it is guttless to shoot a bear with an arrow, even if it is in a fenced range, should try facing a charging bear. I did and it ain't something I would recomend if you want a long and healthy life.

Part of the penalty was for claiming it was taken in a open range thus falsifying the tag.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 09:41 AM

Yeah, Jan loves the current country crop, but she she says she turns the TV down when Montgomery Gentry comes on, and never plays their CD she bought before the bear incident.

The fine should have been $1.5 million and he should have been banned from hunting anywhere forever.

That would possibly have made the point.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 09:29 AM

never heard of him - had to look him up but:-

'On November 27, 2006, Gentry pleaded guilty to a charge of falsely tagging a bear that was killed in a fenced enclosure as if it had been killed in the wild.[46] Under the plea agreement, he agreed to pay a $15,000 fine, give up hunting, fishing and trapping in Minnesota for 5 years, and forfeit both the stuffed bear and the bow used to shoot the animal in 2004. Gentry posted a statement on the duo's website on November 9, 2010, apologizing for his actions.'

What a shit!

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 09:23 AM

For a great sense of humor, try Brad Paisley's "Online": "When you've got my set of stats, it's hard to get a date/ Let alone a real girlfriend/   But I gain another foot and I lose a bunch of weight/ Every time I log in."    The video with this is priceless--and includes a great role for Mr. Shatner.   

Another great one by Brad is:   "Celebrity"--especially the video. Again, Shatner is classic.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 09:00 AM

"talk about me".    Yeah, he sure does. This is, as they say, a "true fact."

For the real sense of humor, try the video of the song I cited. Which is in fact a good one.

And "I'm not as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"---if translated into literal English--does not in fact say how good he once was, just that he's no better.   

As I said.

But at least he does not shoot pet bears in an enclosure (as far as I know), as Troy Gentry did once.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 01:05 AM

Toby Keith!!

GfS

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 12:13 AM

Ron, not meaningless at all. It just means you'd better get it right the first time. . .

:)

SRS

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 12:04 AM

Jan is a huge fan of Toby Keith (of all people).    At least he does seem to have a bit of a sense of humor. One of his songs is "I'm Not As Good As I Once Was But I'm As Good Once As I Ever Was".    I've pointed out to her that this is supremely meaningless.



Also, one of his albums, I think, is called "White Trash With Money".

That seems to fit Bocephus to a T.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: frogprince
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 11:36 PM

Oh, yeah; did you know that, in the tradition of other actors who have done things like put on a ton of lard, or starve nearly to death, to fit a role, that R. Thomas smashed his face so he would need a beard to cover the damage before auditioning for that one.

    (I know, forgive me Lord...)

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 10:10 PM

I couldn't figure out whatthehell he was talking about, until I remembered Richard Thomas (John Boy) is an actor. Karen's favorite Hank Jr

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 09:30 PM

Say goodnight, Spaw.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 08:13 PM

This subject came up as Karen and I were driving to Columbus today and Karen had the best/funniest line by far:

"I liked him better when he was Richard Thomas......"


Spaw

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 07:23 PM

Hey, there is a reason why good clubs don't hire lousy musicians... They are lousy... I guess that some folks would call that censorship... Hey, when you hire people to entertain folks then you have the right to censor the folks who won't help your club...

This is very basic stuff...

BTW, ig Hnak, Jr, was pumping out #1 songs it might be a different story but the guy isn't... Like someone said, you take asway his name and he's just another country-star-wantabee... And there's millions of them...

B~

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Bert
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 02:42 PM

Frogprince says...

he was on stage with Sarah Palin


Hmmm. "I've got friends in low places"

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 02:04 PM

If Monday Night Football made any pretense of being a public information provider or forum, there might be a problem with its censoring or banning or firing Mr. Williams. It's not, and there isn't.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 01:22 PM

Goodness, another first! I agree with Olly this time.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 12:58 PM

Seems to me like a clear case of capitalism at work. ESPN is dissatisfied with HW Jr. so will be going with a different vendor.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 12:37 PM

Actually it's not really censonship but censureship. Hank Jr spoke his mind and that's an American right. And I support his right to say things I disagree with. But Monday Night Football also has the right to not do business with Hank because of his views. Both are good American values.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 12:35 PM

BTNG, you have demonstrated your lack of understanding of the distinctions in law. Censorship, all by itself is neither wrong nor right, or it can be wrong or right. Censorship by a government, used in an oppressive way to stop the free expression of political view would be wrong. In this case no one is stopping HW, Jr from expressing his views. But the network is using it's right to say they don't want it on their product. Censorship? Yes. But to quote my good friend Mr. Greenhaus, "so what?". Hank, if he feels strongly can use another forum.

Mick

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 12:33 PM

Link.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: pdq
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 12:18 PM

"Boehner and Obama are playing golf together" = "Sheriff Clark and Lena Horne are dancing cheek-to-cheek"

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: BTNG
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 11:56 AM

The Worst Part Of Censorship is #$@^&* *** #@&^*
with an attitude like "so what?" well if people see that they got away with it once, well, they'll try it again and again and again.......

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 11:37 AM

Sure it's censorship----so what?

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: ollaimh
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 11:29 AM

anyone who compares obama to hilter is as ignorant and redneck as it gets.it's hate speech. palin saying obama hates the star spangled banner is simillarily full of delusion and hate. hate seems to be winning in the united states. i hope this is the high water mark and thigs start to get sane again but yeah i believe in censoring people who reject out basic democratic priciples and democracy cannot function when hate speech and lies from delusion politicians feeding the ignorant are allowed on the airwaves. too bad the us doesn't have hate speech legislation

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 08:57 AM

"i don't do...any painkillers".    Perhaps you should consider doing something about your pain. It might improve your attitude.   Which, as many have pointed out, just possibly could stand some attention.

Of course that's up to you.   

Hank, Sr. is a tragic figure--a flawed person--nobody is arguing that, and in fact it is part of the "accepted story".   Who nevertheless left behind a body of work which has been a huge influence on country music and brought untold pleasure to uncounted millions.    Maybe even almost as much as your own wonderful contributions to society.

So far, not even the National Enquirer would be interested in your revelations.   They have revealed nothing--except that your first post on Hank Sr. was in fact a smear.   Smack had nothing to do with his death.

You have established nothing which contradicts the "accepted story" of Hank Sr.'s death.

All we ask is that you start thinking before posting.   Seems a reasonable request.

And if you don't, be prepared to be called on every one of your smears.

Your choice.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 03:49 AM

The problem surely is that the terminally stupid, deprived of a decent education by the US system and deprived of decent factual news by the US system, do care what "celebrities" say about politics and are influenced by it.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 03:42 AM

Hank Williams Jr is a no-talent d-bag that owes everything he has to his famous name. Crappy singer, can't play,writes songs that sound like half-ass beer commercials, a dim bulb that wishes the south would have won the civil war. Drug addict and drunk who, if his name were not Hank Williams, would likely be found in an alley somewhere in a puddle of his own vomit...would you like to know how I really feel about him? :)

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Wesley S
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 08:09 PM

Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert comment on the situation.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 08:04 PM

LOL, Wesley...

B~

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Wesley S
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 07:59 PM

Maybe what he REALLY wanted to say is that Boehner is the one that's like Hitler and it's Obama that resembles Netanyahu.

Only Hank and Jack Daniels know for sure....

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 06:58 PM

He went well beyond that in describing Obama as "the enemy"... Not so funny after all, LH... Not all that amusing...

B~

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 06:44 PM

What he actually said, LH, was that Obama and Boehner playing golf was like Hitler and Netanyahu playing golf.

That's not quite the same as "comparing Obama to Hitler", is it?

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: BTNG
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 06:15 PM

I know some humans who should read Raymond Chandler, but that's a totally different story...

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 06:11 PM

He said that comparing Obama to someone else (some Republican?) was like comparing Hitler to Netanyahu. I think that's funny, because as far as I'm concerned the latter is kind of like comparing Attila the Hun to Genghis Khan or Tamerlane.

In other words, as a supposed juxtaposition of "exact opposites" it just doesn't work for me.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 05:14 PM

Reality is that famous musicians, actors and sports figures are taken seriously by way to many people... I mean, all you have to do is sew the name "Michale Jordon" on a $20 pair of sneakers and now they bring $100???

I mean, we didn't used to have all this worship/tabloid mentality 30 years ago... We made fun of the Brits and National Enquirer and now it is everywhere you look and people making mega-bucks for nothing...

But with the mega-bucks there is an unwritten rule to "behave yourself" and "act right"... Hank Jr. crossed the line... No big deal... Now he's burned the bridge (at least for awhile)... If he want's to get back then he's going to have to learn that any apology that begins with the word "if" ain't an apology...

B~

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 04:49 PM

tell me about 'the totalitarian provisions, contained in the 'Obama Care' bill'.

I never heard about them.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Wesley S
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 04:36 PM

"Why would anyone care or be even slightly concerned about what Hank Williams Junior has to say about politics?"

Well - remember he did make his comments on Fox News......

And as Jon Stewert pointed out - it was just about an hour after the host of the show asked why anyone should care what a celebrity has to say about politics.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 04:30 PM

Good one, Don!

First time I ever knew about Hank Jr. was when I went to a drive-in movie in which he portrayed his dad. That would've been in the early 70s. I liked him then. I have not followed him and I sure wouldn't care to now. And, I certainly don't give a shit what he thinks of politics.

Moral of the story: don't saddle a kid with a "Jr" name. Never did like that; each kid deserves their own name. Maybe he would've turned out different without such an onus. (And, I love Hank Sr.'s music.)

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 03:57 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Don! Hehehehehee.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 03:48 PM

politics

etymology:   compound word.

poly = many
+
ticks = small, blood-sucking insects.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 03:36 PM

Hell, when it comes to politics I'd listen to Chongo long before I'd listen to Hank Williams Junior. After all, Chongo's been around some. And he reads Raymond Chandler.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 03:33 PM

On accounta they are stunned rednecks? I believe that was alluded to.

And, I believe my post was valid and along the same lines as others' posts to that effect.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 03:30 PM

Why would anyone care or be even slightly concerned about what Hank Williams Junior has to say about politics?

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 02:58 PM

So, now you have called the people you attacked stupid.

Keep digging. Better search out a sale on shovels because it appears yer gonna wear your shovelssss out.

In any case, don't waste your time trying to convince me of your "innocence" or "superiority". Your posts speak for themselves.

Take ake's strategy and just ignore me when I call you on bullshit and being nasty.

Being a good troll is an art.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 02:10 PM

gnu, I think that this link explains better, what I mean.
To something I just posted!

Regards,
GfS

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 02:00 PM

Attacking stupidity is one thing....if one wants that stupidity, as one with themselves, then it would appear as you say.
Appearances can be deceiving, though....

GfS

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 01:56 PM

Am I sure ya gotta mean streak?

Don't you read your own posts?... on various threads? The false personal attacks and accusations on Mudcatters; the false attacks and accusations on people you know nothing about... do you not understand that your written vitriolic unbased spews show ever reader herein same? You are your own worst enemy.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 01:53 PM

Toss in a ton of the folk music of Europe while you are at it. Loch Tay Boat song jumps to mind immediately.

Subject: RE: Hank Jr's Hitler remark - censorship?
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 01:53 PM

To quote someone else: I think self pity is better than none. :)