BS: George Zimmerman side of the story published.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 23 Sep 12 - 06:52 PM

I ain't TELLIN YOU fuck all, Don. You are tellin me. And you have no right to do so. YOU and the rest of us have to live by the rules. If YOU don't like the rules, tough shit. *I* am not deluded. *I* do not have a problem. *You* have a serious problem when you shit on me for something YOU conjure up in YOUR mind. What fuckin right do YOU have to put words in MY mouth or attack my character or inteligence?

I do not have a problem. Never did. Your accusations and insinuations are not only feable and upsetting, they are undeserved, at the very least.

JtS... no lynch mob? I'll see if I can pick da bones outta dat fish an see if I can swallow n but I tinks I'll choke. (Goes for ME too... someone already has their mitts on my throat for NO reason.)

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 23 Sep 12 - 06:20 PM

""And, statements made certainly appear to me as if some people have judged both men before trial...""

You don't object to Martin being cast as a thug, a drug user and a burglar, but you DO object to any opinions against the man who killed him in the street.

You are entitled to make up your mind but we are not.

Needs no further comment.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 23 Sep 12 - 06:15 PM

"" I give a shit about justice and due process.""

That's exactly your problem Gnu. You are deluded if you think that due process and justice go hand in hand.

The courts dish out LAW, not JUSTICE!

And Law is whatever a clever lawyer can make a jury believe, and also whatever technicality he can adduce to circumvent justice.

I believe in the jury system as being the best we've got, but please don't try to tell me they dish out justice, or that they can read the mind of a dead kid. Don't try to tell me either that they don't have their prejudices.

Ask the Scottsboro Boys!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 23 Sep 12 - 05:45 PM

Well, JtS, I have been told that I can't think straight because I won't support a judgement before there is a trial. And, statements made certainly appear to me as if some people have judged both men before trial... = lynch mob.

9... I think you may consider "found" guilty or not guilty. Minor point, perhaps, but it does have meaning.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 23 Sep 12 - 05:18 PM

"Innocent or guilty, I think that's the way it's suppose to work."

Verdicts are guilty or not guilty.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Sep 12 - 09:53 AM

Nah, no lynch mob but not a pat on the back for a guy who first stalked and then shot to death a 17 year old kid...

Many people out there think that Zimmerman is some kind of hero... Really... I'm not making this up... There is an attitude in the South that as long as it's white people killing black people everything is okay... That's the part I know all to well...

If you lived in the South you'd know this unwritten code to be alive and well in the hearts of way too many white southerners...

Zimmerman is no hero to me...

I hope that he gets the same treatment as any black person who killed a white would get...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Sep 12 - 08:17 AM

Gnu, no one is talking about hanging or lynching but you. We are not in Florida. We couldn't if we wanted to. Which we don't. We are all happy to talk about the case as it unfolds. What is wrong with you? Are you pulling our legs?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 22 Sep 12 - 10:59 PM

Bobert... I assume that is another vote in favour of the lynch mob?

I am astounded by the fact that any of you sit in judgement before trial.

I shall not debate any of the posts. I will wait for the FULL transcript of the trial. AND, I will read it. AND I will take it as fact, recorded in a court of law and not listen to bullshit or hype. I don't know either party and I don't give a shit about either of them. I give a shit about justice and due process.

Youse wanna hang someone before the trial? Fuck you. That ain't justice. Fact is, a lot of youse won't even hang the guilty after the trial and that's sick shit to me. That ain't justice.... yeah... we DO disagree. Before and after trial. The after "debate" I can understand... the before part really fucks me up... I just can't believe youse guys. I am at a loss... just don't make no sense to me.

"HANG HIM NOW! WITHOUT TRIAL! But, don't hang him!" ??? WTF is that shit?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Sep 12 - 08:57 PM

Bottom line here???

The cops told Zimmerman to leave Martin alone and that they were on the way...

Zimmerman didn't...

Martin is dead...

I don't give a rat's ass if Martin beat the holy crap out of Zimmerman...

Had Zimmerman stayed in his car like the cops told him we wouldn't be talking about this...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 22 Sep 12 - 06:45 PM

"We are not a lynch mob and your anger is misplaced."

"... and make no mistake, Trayvon Martin WAS and IS a victim."

Really? *I* will wait for the trial. It's not *my* call.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Sep 12 - 06:18 PM

""I thought I already answered your last question... a COURT OF LAW speaks for "the dead black victim""

WRONG! Nobody can tell Trayvon Martin's side of this story, because nobody else was there, except the man who shot him dead.

FACTS!

1. There is nobody to rebut Zimmerman's assertions and only his side can be told in court.
2. The Florida authorities did not want to prosecute Zimmerman, and only did so because members of the public like some of us, care enough to protest. They (the authorities) were perfectly happy to avoid seeing any form of justice for the victim, and make no mistake, Trayvon Martin WAS and IS a victim.
3. The stand your ground law permits the killing of an unarmed person, even when the killer straps on a gun and goes looking for trouble, and when he finds it makes no attempt to back away, but actively seeks confrontation.

Now you can tell me till you're blue in the face that Martin will get a fair shake, but I don't think you even believe that yourself.

Unless public outcry continues right through the trial, it'll be written off as another black kid gone bad.

So you'll excuse me if I continue to talk about it.

Nobody forces you to read my posts and you've already said you will choose what side to get upset about. Fine by me, IF you stop telling me what to sy or not say.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Sep 12 - 05:41 PM

Gnu, where I live now, lynching is a serious topic. I think most people I know would say the mob needs custody of a man to lynch him. Since the Florida authorities have custody of Zimmerman, he seems safe from that to me.

I will state again, in case I am not clear, that my only concern in this case is with the "stand your ground laws" empowering irresponsible vigilantes. Either one of two outcomes would please me. Zimmerman being found NOT to be an irresponsible vigilante hiding behind that law and found innocent. Or him being found to be one and being convicted of manslaughter.

What would not please me is for him to be found to be an irresponsible vigilante and to get away with that because of that law in Florida.

IT IS NOT WRONG TO SPECULATE ABOUT A CASE WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN. We are not a lynch mob and your anger is misplaced.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 12 - 06:46 PM

None of the above,
Hank.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 21 Sep 12 - 06:36 PM

You're an animal,gnu. But which one?
Animals

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 12 - 05:31 PM

Don... I can't read a lot of your post because of the messed up characters that appear on my screen but I think I get the idea. I thought I already answered your last question... a COURT OF LAW speaks for "the dead black victim" (those are YOUR words and, BTW, your inference to racial bias on my part is EXTREMELY offensive). Not a LYNCH MOB. I am not calling your "us" a lynch mob, rather, just you and the people who want to decide what happened without due process.

And... people who infer that I am racially biased through hateful innuendo are unacceptable to me. That kinda shit don't wash with me, buddy, so knock that fuckin shit off.

As far as me not responding (to YOUR liking, I might add) to posts which I may not have seen or give no credence to or WHATEVER, how in fuck can you judge me by what I haven't said? DO NOT infer that I am racist and DO NOT put words in my mouth again.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 21 Sep 12 - 06:56 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Henry Krinkle - PM
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 07:36 PM

Trayvon looked like a thug to me. Typical hoodlum. Burglar, dope dealer and purse snatching auto thief.

(:-( ))=

Outraged response from Gnu?……………NONE!

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: pdq - PM
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 06:28 PM

"...Florida Department of Law Enforcement could find no evidence that Martin had handled the weapon..."

That means thay did not find anything. Doesn't mean it isn't their in traces to small to find, or they did not look very hard. This non-proof and means precisely that: nothing.

"...Zimmerman's DNA, however, was found on both the gun and the holster..."

Oh my God! You don't suppose that is because those items belonged to him? Hell, he fired the gun!

Just a reminder: Trayvon Martin was kicked out of high school the week before this incident because an inspection of his locker found drugs and burglery tools. Zimmermann thought it suspicious that Martin was going up to people's houses and seeming to check door locks and windows. Like a burgler.

Outraged response from Gnu?……………AGAIN, NONE!

The next post from Gnu is entirely devoted to calling us a lynch mob and declaring that Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty.

WHO speaks for the dead black victim?

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 20 Sep 12 - 06:55 PM

I am sticking up for BOTH of them as the case may be. No man deserves the shit thrown in this thread and other threads without a fair trial. Even then, it will still be shit if posters do not read the trial transcript OR, sometrimes, even if THEY DO READ IT! I had a hard time on a recent thread taking abuse from posters who READ and could not acknowledge the fact that a dying man said, "THAT is the guy that shot me." Come fuckin on eh? A dying man IDs the guy that shot him and posters still say this guy is innocent?

And so it is. Bullshit from stem to stern. Who needs to carefully weigh the evidence or accept due process? Get the rope. Hang yourselves.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Sep 12 - 04:07 PM

"I take great umbrage at being told I have convicted Martin."

Wow! Am I far off! I thought you were sticking up for him.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 20 Sep 12 - 04:00 PM

Don... WTF? Quote these posts you say that I have read and ignored that have been interpreted by you as me being selective and having "that kind of bias". I think you need to stop insinuating that I have made ANY "choices" or am "biased". That may be construed as libel unless you can prove otherwise.

Take yer ropes and shove em. This will be decided in a court of law and not by mob rule... THANK GOODNESS yet again.

BOTH (since Don has implied that I have tried Martin in my mind based on accusations I have never read... which I have NEVER done) are innocent until proven guilty and the fact of the matter is, neither man desrves to be tried by YOU. Nor do *I*.

I am seriously pissed off by your accusations and insinuations.

JtS... "Gees GNU, no body is convicting him." We disagree. And, again, I take great umbrage at being told I have convicted Martin. Just pure bullshit... I really can't explain how pissed off I am at that.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Sep 12 - 11:17 AM

Gees GNU, no body is convicting him. They are just commenting on the news as it is released.

As as been said. It is not helpful to Zimmerman that there was no evidence that the kid touched the gun. But that does not prove anything. The whole point, from my point of view is that these "stand your ground laws" is that vigilantes and other mischief makers can go out and goad people into attacking them and then shoot in "self defense." That seems very wrong to me. I don't want it here. So if that is what Zimmerman did, I want to see him punished. On the other hand. Zimmerman's defense team has that law to work with plus a bunch of NRA and gun nut money. Zimmerman will probably get off very lightly.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Sep 12 - 10:56 AM

You're such a bigot Krinkle. You and your stereotypes.

Trayvon looked like a thug to me. Typical hoodlum. Burglar, dope dealer and purse snatching auto thief.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Sep 12 - 10:50 AM

""The man is innocent until proven guilty. Thank goodness.""

OK Mr Wildebeeste, where's the equivalent outrage against those who are slagging off a dead boy who can't defend himself, calling him a drug dealer, drug user, thug and burglar.

You are very selective in your choice of those who are "innocent until proven guilty" and those who aren't.

Zimmerman is laughing if he gets a jury with that kind of bias, because he'll walk, and Trayvon will be "Just another black kid who deserved to get dead because he was probably up to no good anyway".

Making buying sweets and tea after dark a capital offence.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 20 Sep 12 - 06:38 AM

You're such a bigot Bobette. You and your stereotypes.
Well I'm more concerned about the guy in the suit carrying a briefcase with the greed for money and power.
(:-( D)=

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 10:37 PM

The angry white guy? With terminal road rage? In

I am soooo in the wrong place.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 09:15 PM

I'm more concerned about the angry white guy with terminal road rage in his big pickup truck trying to bully everyone in front of him than a black kid with a hoodie...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 09:04 PM

Dick? WTF? Yer gonna hang an innocent man too?

Odd to me that anyone will judge a man before trial.

And, as I said, odd that some won't hang him when is he is guilty, when it is proven and when he had recourse which he rejected. Shocking actually. To me.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 08:32 PM

I guess in Florida, it's Ok to shoot anyone that looks like a thug.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 07:41 PM

Here we go again. All and sundry with a rope and no evidence. But, by the fuck, there's gonna be a hanging taday, eh?

Odd... on threads where the perp pleaded guilty, I am shit upon for sayin he's guilty and deserves what he gets. On threads where a dyin witness said "That IS the guy that shot me." I am shit upon for sayin the perp is guilty and deserves what he gets. On threads where the perp has not yet been proven guilty I am shit upon fer sayin we should wait to see ALL the evidence.

Fer fuck sake? Are you people for real? Do you just post inane shit to wind people up? If so, yer doin a good job because I would like to meet you in person and call you some names.

The man is innocent until proven guilty. Thank goodness.

And, if he IS guilty, all you do-gooders won't pull on him. Almost laughable if it wasn't so sad.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 07:36 PM

Trayvon looked like a thug to me. Typical hoodlum. Burglar, dope dealer and purse snatching auto thief.
(:-( ))=

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 06:59 PM

Yes of course Peedee, standard equipment for the trendy burglar, TEA and SWEETIES?

Duh!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: pdq
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 06:28 PM

"...Florida Department of Law Enforcement could find no evidence that Martin had handled the weapon..."

That means thay did not find anything. Doesn't mean it isn't their in traces to small to find, or they did not look very hard. This non-proof and means precisely that: nothing.

"...Zimmerman's DNA, however, was found on both the gun and the holster..."

Oh my God! You don't suppose that is because those items belonged to him? Hell, he fired the gun!

Just a reminder: Trayvon Martin was kicked out of high school the week before this incident because an inspection of his locker found drugs and burglery tools. Zimmermann thought it suspicious that Martin was going up to people's houses and seeming to check door locks and windows. Like a burgler.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: gnu
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 06:00 PM

So, that don't mean shit. Crippling? Bullshit.

Hey, I got no dog in this fight... I am just sayin what I said.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: bobad
Date: 19 Sep 12 - 01:51 PM

Forensic tests find no Trayvon Martin DNA on George Zimmerman's gun
By David Edwards
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:41 EDT

Results of forensic tests released on Wednesday could be crippling to the defense of a Florida neighborhood watch captain who is charged with murdering 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Documents released by the State Attorney's Office for the Fourth Judicial Circuit ruled out the possibility that Martin's DNA was on the grip of George Zimmerman's gun, according to the Orlando Sentinel. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement could find no evidence that Martin had handled the weapon.

Zimmerman had told police that he was forced to shoot Martin because the teen was on top of him, slamming his head into the concrete and had tried to take the concealed pistol from the holster on his waist.

Other tests were inconclusive as to whether or not Martin's DNA was on the holster, WKMG reported. Zimmerman's DNA, however, was found on both the gun and the holster.

Witness diagrams and several hundred photos were also released on Wednesday, but they reportedly revealed little new information.

Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder earlier this year. He has pleaded not guilty and is claiming that he acted in self-defense.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Jun 12 - 07:59 PM

Don:

I understand your point and that is why I said I think there is enough evidence for a properly informed jury to make a legal judgement.

I didn't say it would be fair. I believe it to be legally decidable.

Meanwhile, in Texas there has been a legal rendering for the case in which someone tried to exert 'stand your ground' as a justification for shooting a noisy neighbor.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Jun 12 - 01:54 AM

"Yeah, "stand your ground" does seem to be crafted for Redneck Nation, as is everything else that comes from ALEC.."

A few years back I posted a link to the names of hundreds of people who were working for ALEC. I was informed on the thread that my posting was much like the way Joe McCarthy did things. So, I suppose next even mentioning the name will cause trouble, huh? Fuck.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 08:37 PM

Yeah, "stand your ground" does seem to be crafted for Redneck Nation, as is everything else that comes from ALEC...

Black folk need not apply...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 06:41 PM

""The street criers and radio reactionaries have very little interest in what was going on in either Martin's or Zimmermann's mind and in all events even the law doesn't so much care what people say they thought as what they did and when.""

Mebbe so!

But the problem with that Robo, is that one of the protagonists is going to find it rather difficult to tell anybody what was in his mind or what he did.

One man gets to tell the tale he wants believed, and if you think he's going to say anything other than "I was in the right", then you really are living in fantasy land.

And speaking of fantasy, which of you guys is going to tell me, in all seriousness, that you believe there would have been no immediate arrest and charge, if it had been the white (comparatively speaking) guy who was killed and the black claiming self defence?

Until you can swear to that in a court of law, "Stand Your Ground Law" is only for whites.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: robomatic
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 05:52 PM

Similar to gnu's comment above, I've thought since the beginning of this contretemps that in spite of the posturing and demonstrating on both sides of this issue, there should be enough evidence to decide this case in law. The street criers and radio reactionaries have very little interest in what was going on in either Martin's or Zimmermann's mind and in all events even the law doesn't so much care what people say they thought as what they did and when.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 04:36 PM

Oh, and, silly me to forget, the "pass" laws designed (like those of South Africa in the old days and Nazi Germany) to make it easier to discriminate against the oppressed racial minorities - but in the case (irony of ironies) of US ""pass" laws, Hispanics.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 04:34 PM

Yes, Jack, I think exactly that. Like the voting laws designed to disenfranchise the black population.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 03:11 PM

I'm not saying that there is no racism. I'm saying that it is not as pervasive as painted.

Do you think that the Florida Legislature is passing laws intended to legalize the killing of black people? Or is that a stretch?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 02:59 PM

I lived and worked in the construction industry in Florida and Texas for 30 years and believe me racism is alive and unwell in this part of the country. People are not as overt with their prejudices as they once were but that's due to fear of reprisals from their employers who,in turn, are afraid of legal action. As management I dealt with it on many occasions.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 01:18 PM

Don,

You are starting to piss me off. But I can see it is only ignorance. I recall reading and account by white British students who were stopped at a bridge to a neighboring Parrish by the local Sheriff's deputies. If it was racism why did that happen. I also lots of white men who have close friendships with black men. Especially when they played sports together in high school.

Come live here for a while. It is not the caricature that you get in the media.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 01:15 PM

And before you come back at me, I do know that New Orleans isnt in Florida, but it's indicative of the attitudes of many southerners.

DT.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 01:11 PM

""Don. I have lived in three Southern States. 99% of black and white people get along just fine. "Stand your ground" isn't about killing black people.""

Hurricane Katrina!!

Who was left behind to drown or starve? Who was shot coming out of flooded stores with food for their families? Whose plight was simply ignored for a considerable time?

Who was rescued and bussed out of the area of devastation?

Florida has no endemic racial problem? They must be ever watchful not to be squashed as a pig comes in to land.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 12:36 PM

Don. I have lived in three Southern States. 99% of black and white people get along just fine. "Stand your ground" isn't about killing black people. Its about selling guns to meet a wish fulfillment fantasy. Sadly, a lot of Americans, not just in the south, want to be Doc Holiday or Wyatt Earp. And of course you can't do that without the latest Glock or other expensive handgun.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 12:29 PM

""No Police Chief or Sheriff in their right mind is going to hire the most famous vigilante in the country as a rookie cop.""

I would have thought that no legislative body in their right mind would enact the "Stand Your Ground Law".

I was wrong! Are you sure you aren't also wrong?

Remember this is Florida, a Southern State which still seems to have a problem with black people continuing to breathe.

Hand on heart, can you say that it is possible to stop Zimmerman's NRA funded legal team loading the jury in his favour?

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 01:29 AM

No Police Chief or Sheriff in their right mind is going to hire the most famous vigilante in the country as a rookie cop. Zimmerman has this going for him. Since Sheriffs are elected, there are bound to some who are less than perfectly professional.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 08:13 PM

The lying about resources under oath and the code talk between Zimmerman and his wife have hurt his defense...

If, like some have suggested, ALEC and the NRA give up on him, he goes down...

If, however, they double down, then a good chance of an O.J. outcome... High priced attorneys win a lot of cases...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman side of the story published.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 07:59 PM

One question: Who speaks for a dead black kid in Florida?

The authorities wouldn't even have arrested Zimmerman without the outcry their inaction caused.

Don T.