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Subject: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:09 PM The Racist Roots of Gun Control The historical record provides compelling evidence that racism underlies gun control laws -- and not in any subtle way. Throughout much of American history, gun control was openly stated as a method for keeping blacks and Hispanics "in their place," and to quiet the racial fears of whites. This paper is intended to provide a brief summary of this unholy alliance of gun control and racism, and to suggest that gun control laws should be regarded as "suspect ideas," analogous to the "suspect classifications" theory of discrimination already part of the American legal system. Racist arms laws predate the establishment of the United States. Starting in 1751, the French Black Code required Louisiana colonists to stop any blacks, and if necessary, beat "any black carrying any potential weapon, such as a cane." If a black refused to stop on demand, and was on horseback, the colonist was authorized to "shoot to kill."... http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html And now, in the latest move to disarm blacks, Democrats are pushing for massive gun restrictions. Shame, shame, shame. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: catspaw49 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:14 PM You're an incredible steaming heap of bigoted, racist, cow manure. The dumbest ass on any continent.......... Can we all just skip this thread? Or do you think he offers a legit conversation. If you do, you're another asshole as well! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: artbrooks Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:18 PM Agree. Close it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:45 PM Remarkably civil exchange, aside from the catspew. So anyway, why do Democrats want to disarm blacks? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:49 PM Who said anyone wanted to disarm blacks specifically? Don't have anything worthwhile to do, Songwronger? Feel at loose ends? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:53 PM Yes. Have a litt e downtime. Thought I'd do a bit of educating. Do you know why Democrats want to disarm blacks, Mr. Firth? You're a self-identified Democrat, as I recall. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:59 PM I don't belong to any political party. WHO SAID Democrats want to disarm blacks specifically? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Stringsinger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 07:05 PM Many Dems support the NRA which makes this thread ridiculous. Fortunately Black People don't need semi-automatic weapons which are used mainly by white idiots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,mando-player-91 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 07:12 PM Because we are evil Nazis who love dictators haven't you heard??? This is the biggest croc of shit I've read in 5 minutes |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 17 Jan 13 - 07:54 PM Songwronger with nothing to do, stirring the septic tank to while away his spare time. Seens to do a lot of that. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: olddude Date: 17 Jan 13 - 07:57 PM entertaining however :-) where does he come up with this stuff. Keep em coming |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:06 PM Spaw was right. You are an asshole. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:22 PM I wasn't addressing that to Songwronger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Wesley S Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:40 PM The OP seems to need a lot of attention - and he doesn't get it in the real world. He can find it here. End of story. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:48 PM Interesting, despite the (typically) stupid and foul attacks--it does seem that some Mudcatters are far more fluent in gutter langugage than any other-- on those who post on such a thread, to know that's the new rumor the gun nuts intend to spread. Too bad similar rumors of liberal ideas targeting blacks never got anywhere--for instance that birth control measures are anti-black, or that supporting a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants is unfair to blacks. Wonder why these brilliant ideas never seem to get much traction. Face it: if you can think, no matter what color you are, you recognize desperate scaremongering for what it is. But I always think it's intriguing to hear what the other side is thinking---even if the other side is not thinking at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:57 PM La dee da, Ron. You missed what happened. Completely. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:03 PM Hmmmmmm??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Jeri Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:10 PM You want to know why trolls keep hanging around here? Read the list of names at the top of the thread. Keep servicing them, and they never stop. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:10 PM This isn't about attention for me; it's about attention being placed on the real reasons for disarmament. Liberals have assumed the "white man's burden" of providing for blacks (look at all the programs that encourage government dependency). Part of the white man's burden is making sure that blacks are kept in their place, weapons-wise. Hence, the Democrats are pushing legislation to disarm blacks. Or so it seems. No one has presented an argument sufficient to convince me otherwise. You're all too busy posturing, showing your pretended outrage to one another. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:44 PM Sorry people, I said precisely what needed to be said--and didn't even have to fall into the gutter once. Gee, it can be done after all. NB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:48 PM What you missed, Jeri, is that about 20 of us just hit "submit" without having posted anything... That spoke volumes... Those posts were taken down... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Jeri Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:00 PM It said you read his post and cared enough to refresh the thread. Servicing the trolls... again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:04 PM No, I didn't read anything past the title and I'm sure that many of the others didn't, as well... I think it was understood by all of us that we were abstaining... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: katlaughing Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:52 PM And another gang of troll feeders keeps it going. Jeri is right, but we all know none of you can sit on your hands and let it die. As a mod and a long-time member it is disgusting, disheartening, and plain stupid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: gnu Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:58 PM I started the blank posts. Sorry about that. Maybe I should have pulled the old "Eminem" (filter that old thread if ya don't know whatI am talking about). By the way... anyone see any of the more recent M&M videos? I gotta say I haven't but that I did see certain videos of the rapper and I find some of his poetry absolutely stunning. Now, I don't like Rap "music" (and THAT is the crux of the biscuit I can't seem to butter and get down me t'roat - know what I am sayin, b'y, eh?) in the overall but Eminem's poetry is truly stunning to me. Of course, the old question, "What is Rap?", which has been pondered within this forum at least once, including in this post, will never get "truly answered" due to the subjective nature of the question, indeed as likened to, as some have pondered, "What is folk?" or, perhaps, more germain to the present sub-subject, as proposed, in a way, by Spaw, "What is an asshole?". So, I gotta ask me, "Why NOT just post a blank space as I did and smile when I saw all the other blank posts that followed mine?" Well, such a form of protest is, at best, ineffective as it "tells" the AH that someone actually read his/her/it's post. That is the true nature of the blank post. The blank post speaks volume to an AH and therefore is no less effective than an actually response. Now, obviously, THIS post is no more effective in "discrediting" an AH but by not simply posting a blank post, this post may remain posted and serve as a reminder to all that I really fucked up with my blank post. Yes, I meant it as a form of protest but it had the opposite effect and actually went against the FACT the the only way to deal with an asshole or troll or bully is to NOT POST AT ALL. That is what Joe and Jeri and others have been telling me, us, for years and I KNOW that but sometimes I just get SOOOOOOOOO pissed off that I want to SHOUT it with silence.... but when I post silence, I post a SHOUT louder than anything I could post otherwise. And that is what the AH/troll/bully wants. Now, that is a long winded way of saying what Jeri said but when have you ever know me to just say, "Jeri, Joe, whoever deleted my blank posts...sorry. I know better but sometimes I just get SOOOOOOOO pissed off that I forget to follow your (and my, if I had any) common sense."? Comments and suggestions are welcome, ineed requested, regarding this post. Am I making any sense? Am I helping or hindering? After all, I am just a gnu, a dumb animal. Gentle and docile... For the most part. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:59 PM I thought that seeing one poster after another posting nothing but just hitting submit was the strongest act I have seen at Mudcat since I have been here and that goes back a long, long time... I think the mods should allow for people to abstain in that manner... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 11:21 PM The outrage demonstrated here is as fake as Obama's crocodile tears after the Sandy Hook shootings. He wiped a dry eye with the world watching. Wipe your dusty eyes, hypocrites. You want to disarm blacks because you fear them. You jumped at the chance to play White Man's Burden with your government dependency programs, and as a result you now have ghettos full of infantilized blacks. With guns. So you push new gun control laws. That's what this is all about. And don't blame me for the situation. I've always thought we should invest in black communities, create jobs and self-respect, not government dependency. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 11:24 PM I have to admit that the blank space in the comment section was the most intelligent thing I've ever seen Bobert post. I vote that he be allowed to continue saying what's on his mind in that way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Jan 13 - 11:46 PM Anybody who whines about "troll feeders" has an obvious move. Don't post--at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 18 Jan 13 - 08:52 AM Unlike you, my blank space doesn't waste bandwidth, wronger... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 18 Jan 13 - 09:47 AM Typical Songwronger. So stupid, he hasn't noticed that there are very large numbers of black Democrats. Par for the course. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Jan 13 - 01:14 PM He somehow thinks that his current rumor will change that. But, as I noted earlier, similar rumors have not had wonderful success, to put it mildly. Now, what was that definition of insanity? As I recall it was something along the lines of trying the same thing over and over expecting to get a different result. "desperate scaremongering" QED |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Jan 13 - 01:24 PM Sorry, Dems do NOT want to disarm Blacks. They make the presumption that all Blacks are criminals, and will violate the laws, as they have in the Dem controlled urban areas like Chicago in the past. They do want to make it look like they are doing something about gun violence, without having to actually deal with the causes or results in any real fashion. "Now, what was that definition of insanity? As I recall it was something along the lines of trying the same thing over and over expecting to get a different result. " You mean like outlawing automatic weapons, and making it a crime for criminals to possess guns???? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Jan 13 - 01:40 PM "Mr. President, Chicago's Gun Victims Need You Now By Tom Bevan - January 18, 2013 Email Print 276Comments Share Mr. President, please come to Chicago. In Washington on Wednesday, as you rolled out a slate of gun control measures quickly cobbled together in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre, you said, "If there is even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if there is even one life that can be saved, then we've got an obligation to try." If you believe those words, Mr. President, here is a heartfelt suggestion: Come back to your adopted hometown and personally host a summit that grapples seriously with the causes of -- and crafts meaningful solutions to -- gang violence in America's big cities. It's really not much of an exaggeration to say that parts of Chicago resemble a war zone. The numbers are grim. Unofficially, there were 513 homicides in Chicago in 2012, nearly 100 more than New York City, which recorded 414 killings but which has a population three times larger. Chicago's body count is 200 more than the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan last year. The carnage has continued unabated into the New Year. It's gone on too long, sir. The sad reality is that while terrible mass shootings like the ones at Aurora and Newtown shock the nation's conscience, pull at the public's heartstrings, and garner wall-to-wall media coverage, they represent a tiny fraction of the number of gun homicides in the country every year. Consider this, Mr. President: During the first 16 days of January, 26 people have been killed by guns in Chicago -- the exact same number as at Sandy Hook Elementary School. By the time this year is out, the south and west sides of the city we both call home will have endured, in terms of sheer numbers of people killed, the equivalent of 20 Sandy Hook massacres. That's on top of the equivalent of the 19 Sandy Hooks the city experienced in 2012. Yet there has been little outcry by the national media, and not much public attention paid to Chicago's crucible by either national political party. Just the sterile news stories in the local papers every morning recounting the details of yet another young person's life cut short and another family ripped apart thanks to senseless violence. The other sad reality, Mr. President, is that almost nothing proposed this week in Washington, D.C., by your administration will do anything to stem the tide of gun violence in our inner cities. Most of these crimes were not committed with semi-automatic assault weapons, they weren't committed by the mentally ill, and they won't be stopped by universal background checks. If you are serious about doing everything in your power to curb gun violence and save lives, then you must harness your immense popularity in Chicago -- and in other big cities -- to address the elephant in the room: the failures of a society grown coarsened, desensitized to violence, and too tolerant of such carnage. This is true of American culture broadly: Hollywood has become too blithe in its glorification of murder, and makers of ultra-violent video games share some of the blame too. But it's particularly true within the African-American community, where too many fatherless young men have given up hope for a better future and embraced a nihilistic gang culture that not only accepts brutal violence on a daily basis but encourages it. During your presidency you've been asked a number of times about issues of concern to the black community, such as the high rate of African-American unemployment. You tend to respond, gracefully, and rightly, I believe, that you are president of all Americans, and not just one particular group or another. This issue is different. Because of your heritage and your stature as the first African-American president, you may be the only person in this country who has the influence and moral standing to speak much needed truths to address this longstanding scourge in the black community. As you said, "If there is even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if there is even one life that can be saved, then we've got an obligation to try." There is one thing you can do, Mr. President. Come home to Chicago. Talk to the kids. If they'll listen to anybody, they'll listen to you. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ed T Date: 18 Jan 13 - 02:04 PM ""They're giving out guns in the ghetto They're saying they will set you free One day I'll have children of my own But I'm afraid they won't have me"" Guns In The Ghetto Lyrics - UB40 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Stringsinger Date: 18 Jan 13 - 05:01 PM Actually, it's Republicans who want to disarm Black groups such as the Panthers. They are the ones with the real paranoia about Blacks with guns. Dems are not all of one opinion. Some are paranoid and some not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 18 Jan 13 - 05:37 PM Yeah, you don't see lines of black folks at gun shops waiting to buy semi-automatic weapons... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Elmore Date: 18 Jan 13 - 06:15 PM A horse walks into a bar.... Oops. Sorry. Wrong thread. Thought I was in the joke thread. After all, Songwronger is the biggest joke of 2013.(next to BB). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 18 Jan 13 - 10:14 PM Okay. Now that the trauma's worn off, this is why I say that Democrats want to disarm blacks. The fact is evident in the mechanics of the new gun laws being proposed. They all demand stricter background checks. The checks would be fine if the purpose was to weed out psychos, but it's not. You can't pass the check if you have a criminal history. Blacks are about five times more likely to have a criminal history than whites. So, this is just one more backdoor way for whitey to disarm blacks. And the Democrats are culpable because they're the ones who want more and more laws, bigger and bigger government, more and more activity criminalized. Democrats pass laws that define blacks as criminals, then they say that criminals won't be allowed guns. I think blacks should be afforded the same access to guns as whites. Democrats need to get their racist anti-gun mania under control. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Mrr whose computer RsIP Date: 18 Jan 13 - 11:11 PM I thought we wanted to disarm everybody? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Jan 13 - 11:28 PM "this is why I say" the moon is made of green cheese. Sorry, SW, the Big Lie approach only works on uneducated people--or at least those who want to believe whatever outlandish assertion you make. In this case neither applies. As a thinker you leave a bit to be desired, to put it mildly. But even as a propagandist you fail. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: frogprince Date: 19 Jan 13 - 09:07 AM We have at least a couple of threads going here with people responding to Songtwisters sewage as if to debate against a genuine opinion; I submit that we have no reason whatever to assume that he actually believes the stuff that he defecates here so he can watch people complain about the stench. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ed T Date: 19 Jan 13 - 10:23 AM Violence or peaceful action, who was right? Does the USA not now have a black president now verifying the MLK approach, not through Malcolm X approach through violence and guns? (Maybe some white folks dont like this progress, and would have preferred the alternative, where blacks, in a minority, would have been further or marginalized or eliminated)? Unfortunately bothe of these folks died from gunshots. MLK-Malcom X Debate |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ed T Date: 19 Jan 13 - 10:28 AM ""I think blacks should be afforded the same access to guns as whites"" Or, verse-visa ;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 19 Jan 13 - 11:07 AM "I submit we have no reason..." There is an obvious solution, as I've noted, for anybody who feels that way: don't post on the thread. Duh. I feel SW is an interesting sociological study--if he's not a giant put-on. It is admittedly hard to imagine that he actually believe any of the tripe he spews. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jan 13 - 06:40 AM ""I think blacks should be afforded the same access to guns as whites. Democrats need to get their racist anti-gun mania under control."" I don't think there's any law preventing black Americans from buying and keeping guns, is there? I think what stops blacks from lining up at gun shops and gun shows is plain common sense. Every black American is only too aware of the reaction of White America to a black (any black) with a gun. If he isn't wearing a cop uniform, he must be a drug dealer or a gang member. Having a gun increases the chance of being shot for a black citizen, yet if in the course of being mugged, he uses his gun to defend himself, he is likely to be the one jailed. Think Zimmerman v. Trayvon Martin. Martin was unarmed and dead and Zimmerman wasn't even arrested until the public outcry forced the Florida authorities' hand. No SW, I think most ordinary black Americans don't want to know about being armed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 20 Jan 13 - 01:25 PM "he actually believes" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jan 13 - 06:11 PM Instead of knocking Songwronger, and calling him a bunch of 'juvenile talking point's names'..why not address the topic, and share ideas as to 'why'....maybe there are things to learn..or disregard..or consider. ...but this slamming people around, speaks volumes as to why one doesn't want to subscribe to your mindsets. Fair enough? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jan 13 - 06:29 PM No GfS! It would be fair enough if it came from one of the members whose utterances command respect, but from you? I don't think so! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: frogprince Date: 20 Jan 13 - 06:39 PM Address what topic ? The original question deserves to be "addressed" about as much as the question "Why do Republicans want to spay all women Democrats". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: MarkS Date: 20 Jan 13 - 07:04 PM I would not say Democrats "want" to disarm blacks, but the little hidden secret is that what today is known as "gun control" started in the reconstruction South and extended into the Jim Crow era as a way to keep firearms out of the hands of the newly freed slaves and keep them subjected as inferior to the white population, and that submission was enforced by the KKK. Had southern blacks been armed I suspect there would have been a lot fewer lynchings. Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 20 Jan 13 - 07:13 PM Yo GfinS, There is not reason why anyone should strap on tin foil hats and delve into Wrongers Wacko World... I mean, I used to love to listen to Lyndon LaRouche because I knew that no matter how sane he started out he was going to go left, crash and burn... Like the time he accused Nancy Reagan of heading up the drug cartel in the United States... How do you go about debating or discussing that??? That's the problem we have with the Wrongman... His posts are too far out of the realm of reality there is no starting point... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 20 Jan 13 - 07:25 PM Gun restriction laws have historically been used to keep guns out of the hands of minorities (see article referenced in first post of thread). This new wave of gun laws will require "background checks" and deny guns to criminals. Percentage wise, blacks are five times more likely to have criminal records than whites. Therefore.... This Democratic crap about registering guns is just more of their backdoor racism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 20 Jan 13 - 07:35 PM Look at all the news reports of people standing in line to buy guns... They are all but 100% white people... Guess better next time, wrongman... BTW, other than inner city young black males most black folks don't give a rats ass about guns... Rural blacks might have a shotgun for hunting... Older blacks, for the most part, probably don't even own them... Seems that this obsession with guns is a white thing... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 20 Jan 13 - 10:08 PM Bullshit. You're speaking for all black people now? Typical liberal arrogance. Blacks don't buy guns in shops because they already can't pass the background checks. The new laws would just make that worse. All the blacks I know who are heads of households have guns. Your Uncle Tomming of a group of people is insulting. And the argument that "blacks don't care about guns anyway, so new gun laws won't hurt them" is mind-numbingly racist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Ron Davies Date: 20 Jan 13 - 10:39 PM So, SW, you don't like background checks--but you whine that you're not thinking of yourself but rather of black people who are deprived of being armed to the teeth. Can you spell H Y P O C R I T E ? Your despicable kind is directly responsible for the handgun carnage in the US. Hope I'm not too subtle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 20 Jan 13 - 11:16 PM Wanna know a secret about background checks? They don't really keep anyone from buying guns. They just push the transactions onto the black market. Whether Democrats (or Republicans, or Whigs, or members of The Flat Earth Society) want to disarm blacks is irrelevant. They aren't disarming them. Any black person who wants a gun can get a gun. Period. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,giovanni Date: 21 Jan 13 - 05:57 AM As a complete outside observer with no axe to grind one way or the other, it would seem to me that keeping guns away from any group who are "five times more likely to have criminal records" is an eminently sensible thing to do. Just saying, is all................ g |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Big Ballad Singer Date: 21 Jan 13 - 09:53 AM Stringsinger, you said: "...semi-automatic weapons which are used mainly by white idiots." I think you're forgetting all the drug-dealing dirtbags in the ghettos who carry around Tec-9 and other auto- and semi-auto weapons. Sure, there are a lot of 9-mm and other handguns, but there are PLENTY of AK-47s and other assault weapons among the blacks in the projects. The gang-bangers want to be able to do the most damage they can when they raid each other. IMHO, the average private citizen should be allowed ONE firearm in their home for protection, if that much. We have police departments to protect our neighborhoods, after all, and in over 20 years of living on my own, I have NEVER had a fear of someone breaking in. I do not own a gun, and I don't need to. I choose to live in areas where other people and I largely share social and ideological beliefs, thus greatly reducing the threat of crime. Most of the gun violence in the US can be attributed, IMHO, to the intrusion of ignorant belief systems into otherwise normal society. No one in my neighborhood glorifies the drug-dealing shit who masquerade as "rap artists", so I have little to fear over whether the inevitable gang- and drug-related violent activity will surface around my children. Simply put, if one were to profile the VAST majority of those who were/are guilty of gun violence, one would discover the music, language, ideologies and separatist/dominionist idiocies of the ignorant thug. The day I drive down a street in my neighborhood and see people reading Tolstoy and blasting Bach from their car-audio earth-shaker systems while they brandish their assault weapons is the day I move to New Zealand or somewhere ;) Even those in "polite" society who fall into the world of drug addiction and/or gang violence NEVER find themselves falling into a BETTER class of people; the shitty lifestyle breeds the need for the violence. Guns belong in the hands of the MILITIA and those sworn to defend our freedoms locally. Our first line of defense at home is not a gun, it's education and vigilance against ignorance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Jan 13 - 01:12 AM Hmmm..getting interesting.....how some people stereotype blacks...and then say they aren't racist...and call OTHERS bigots!! What a trip. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 22 Jan 13 - 09:35 AM Actually, Big Ballad Singer, as has been sourced on another thread, less than 15% of the homicides are gang related... Actually (part 2) the CDC was in the middle of a research project on gun violence a few years back and the early reports (which were on their way to becoming public but halted by the NRA leaning heavily on Congress people) were going say something like this: You are _____ (between 22 and 43) times more likely to be shot if there is a gun in your house than if there isn't!!! That's pretty astounding but... ...if we are talking about education and if those statistics are accurate then it would seem logical that folks would make the decision to not have the gun in the house, right??? As for this idea that the push is to disarm blacks??? As I have pointed out earlier, it ain't blacks we are seeing on the nightly news as being the folks lined up to buy guns at the local gun shop... This is all NRA race baiting fear marketing... BTW, on out news station last night they showed a gun shop that had sold out of every gun it had... There was not a single gun of any description left on the wall or show cases... Not one!!! Guess the NRA is loving all this attention... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 31 Jan 13 - 06:01 PM Democrats' Negro Disarmament Program Hits a Snag Police officers in Seattle, Washington held their first gun buyback program in 20 years this weekend, underneath interstate 5, and soon found that private gun collectors were working the large crowd as little makeshift gun shows began dotting the parking lot and sidewalks. Some even had "cash for guns" signs prominently displayed.Gun Buyback Goes Bad Police stood in awe as gun enthusiasts and collectors waved wads of cash for the guns being held by those standing in line for the buyback program. People that had arrived to trade in their weapons for $100 or $200 BuyBack gift cards($100 for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and $200 for assault weapons) soon realized that gun collectors were there and paying top dollar for collectible firearms. So, as the line for the chump cards got longer and longer people began to jump ship and head over to the dealers. John Diaz, Seattles Police Chief, wasn't pleased with the turn of events stating "I'd prefer they wouldn't sell them," but admitted it's perfectly legal for private individuals to buy and sell guns, FOR NOW. Mayor Mike McGinn said at a news conference the private transactions are a loophole that needs to be closed. "There's no background checks, and some (guns) could be exchanged on the streets that shouldn't be in circulation." But Schuyler Taylor, a previous gun retailer attending the event in hopes of buying weapons, asked "Why not offer them cash versus a gift card? I'm still taking the guns off the streets; they're just going in my safe." People were reportedly, at one point, jumping out of vehicles whilst sitting in traffic – making on the spot deals with the gun dealers.... http://www.independencedeclaration.org/2013/01/28/seattle-gun-buyback-gets-jacked-turns-into-a-damn-gun-show-lol/ This is so damned funny. And this was in the liberal city of Seattle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 31 Jan 13 - 06:09 PM If there was a mandatory background check law that wouldn't have happened, wronger... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 31 Jan 13 - 06:32 PM Do you know how corrupt the Seattle police dept is? One of the most corrupt in the nation. And there they were trying to rip off people they probably call "civilians" instead of "citizens," and then they were suddenly "in awe" that HONEST people were offering a better purchase price. And there wasn't a damned thing they could do about it, because we have the right to own firearms. Buy and sell them, too. In full view of the law. If you want to live in a gun-controlled country, why don't you move to one, instead of encouraging people to violate our constitution? Or move to a country with no blacks, since you're so fearful of them owning guns. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 31 Jan 13 - 06:43 PM Another NRA talking point: "It's going to be hard to __________..."... "It won't work because ___________..."... I don't give a rat's ass if it is going to be tough... It was tough for the Greatest Generation to build over 1,300 naval ships, 300,000 airplanes, 80,000 landing crafts and tens of thousands tanks all in a 4 year period... It was hard putting man on the moon... Some stuff is hard, wrongman... That's life... Its not an excuse for not tackling problems... That's a cop out... Guess better next time... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 31 Jan 13 - 10:56 PM I haven't listened to the Obama line lately, so are you people now comparing the fight to destroy the U.S. constitution to the war effort in WW2? And the moon landings? Just how brainwashed are you, man? Or is it that wacky weed you smoke? My state is training school employees to carry concealed weapons. Teachers, administrators, janitors. School safety problem solved. Those employees would do a hell a lot better on a psych eval than the Seattle goon squads, too. Go back to your wacky weed now, courtesy of Obama, Holder and the thousands of Mexicans killed with Obama's gun running. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,999 Date: 01 Feb 13 - 04:54 AM Temper, temper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie Date: 01 Feb 13 - 06:06 AM Must admit I don't get over the pond as much as I used to but reading some of this shit, it isn't about who can be trusted with guns as whether some people can be trusted with metal knives and forks. Keep banging the rocks together guys... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,999 Date: 01 Feb 13 - 06:23 AM ". . . whether some people can be trusted with metal knives and forks." I know now to clear my mouth before reading your posts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Nigel Parsons Date: 01 Feb 13 - 06:44 AM From Songwronger: Blacks don't buy guns in shops because they already can't pass the background checks. The new laws would just make that worse. All the blacks I know who are heads of households have guns. So are those guns obtained illegally? Percentage wise, blacks are five times more likely to have criminal records than whites Any of those records for illegal possession of firearms? Some of your arguments seem to almost recommend the restrictions you argue against! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,999 Date: 01 Feb 13 - 06:56 AM Yeppers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jul 13 - 11:50 PM A youtube video, 3:10 long. Beautiful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlu3kvVm_Vk&feature=player_embedded Partial transcript: HARRY C. ALFORD, CEO Black Chamber of Commerce: I want to thank the lord for our constitution, and I also want to thank the NRA for its legacy. The National Rifle Association was founded by religious leaders who wanted to protect freed slaves from the Ku Klux Klan. They'd raise money, buy arms, show the freed slaves how to use those arms and protect their families. God bless them. Many of us probably wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for the NRA. NIGER INNIS, National Spokesperson, Congress of Racial Equality: Let me just briefly say that gun control, for black Americans, we know, has ultimately been about people control.... REV. WILLIAM OWENS, JR., Founder God, Guns and the Constitution: This administration is far from the truth. This agenda is becoming more and more obvious to all...anti-American. And when you touch the Second Amendment, you can't become more anti-American.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 31 Jul 13 - 08:57 AM Different day, same ShitWringer horseshit as it was back in January. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Richard Bridge Date: 31 Jul 13 - 09:51 AM Well, today, except in some southern states, everyone can call on the protection of the law, so firearms are not needed to protect against systematic racist oppression. Second, the KKK is not the force it was. Third, the remaining racists are usually far better armed so getting into an armed battle is the equivalent of suicide by cop. Fourth, anyone of sense wants to disarm everybody except proper authorities, because guns only increase the ease of killing - and the belief that even semi-automatic weapons are a defence against the armed forces (controlled by the government) that can release "shock and awe" is irrational even by the strange standards of FFS, Ding-dong, and Grand Wizards Q and Juicy Brucie. In short - " Summer is i-cumen in so loudly sing cuckoo". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 31 Jul 13 - 10:34 AM The National Rifle Association was founded by religious leaders who wanted to protect freed slaves from the Ku Klux Klan. & etc. Absolutely, totally and universally false. Complete and utter bullshit. See Zimmerman thread with same horseshit posted by BullshitBruce, ShitWringer's doppleganger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Elmore Date: 31 Jul 13 - 10:59 AM Don't believe I've ever looked at this thread, except to see who began it. That was all I needed to know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Little Hawk Date: 31 Jul 13 - 03:34 PM For a long time I have laboured to come up with the funniest thread title ever....but I gave up after I saw this one. It's unbeatable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 31 Jul 13 - 04:20 PM I think Songwronger and Beardedbruce ought to get together and talk over the matter of Blacks and gun ownership. They are telling completely opposite stories. Maybe if they met face to face, they'd wind up tearing each other to shreds like the Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat, and leave the rest of us folks in peace! It would certainly diminish this egregious waste of bandwidth. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 31 Jul 13 - 04:59 PM Maybe if they met face to face, they'd wind up tearing each other to shreds like the Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat Where do I send my donation to bring this to pass, Don? Or can I volunteer? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Amos Date: 31 Jul 13 - 05:05 PM Songwronger, your sense of logic and what data merit what conclusions is...well, distorted, to put it mildly. Those who favor background checks want them applied uniformly. How you manage to twist this into a race issue is something that just boggles the mind. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 31 Jul 13 - 05:24 PM Actually, how he manages to twist it into a race issue is the same sort of absolute horseshit BullshitBruce comes up with. They were made for each other. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 31 Jul 13 - 09:08 PM The original post in this thread links to an article which discusses the race issue. I merely point out that gun control laws historically target minorities, and Democrats push gun control laws. And I don't contend that the NRA was founded in order to help protect blacks. I've never looked into the matter. But Harry C. Alford, CEO of the Black Chamber of Commerce says, "I want to thank the lord for our constitution, and I also want to thank the NRA for its legacy. The National Rifle Association was founded by religious leaders who wanted to protect freed slaves from the Ku Klux Klan. They'd raise money, buy arms, show the freed slaves how to use those arms and protect their families. God bless them. Many of us probably wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for the NRA." Click on the youtube link I provided to HEAR him say this. Then contact him and call him a bullshitting racist. You liberals are a trip. Your posturing is so...childlike. Quite amusing. aft |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Little Hawk Date: 31 Jul 13 - 09:17 PM The only minority that doesn't get targeted by oppressive laws is the minority of very, very rich people who run the pyramidal system of society from the top down...they sit at the apex of the pyramid on the dollar bill, just above the all-seeing eye whose latest manifestation is the Department of Homeland Security. And they are a very small minority indeed. Meanwhile, both the Democrats and the Republicans want to disarm Chimps! You wouldn't believe the procedural shit Chongo has to go through annually to legally carry around his arsenal of weapons, specially the tommy guns. It's a disgrace! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Elmore Date: 01 Aug 13 - 10:55 AM I wouldn't call Harry C. Alford a bullshitting racist as Songwronger suggests in his most recent posting. I would call him a bullshitting Republican fat cat. Have they barred black people from the Republican party recently? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: beardedbruce Date: 01 Aug 13 - 11:34 AM Elmore, Harry C. Alford IS black. http://www.census.gov/dmd/www/AlfordBio.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: beardedbruce Date: 01 Aug 13 - 11:37 AM For a picture... http://www.nationalbcc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=255&Itemid=114 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 01 Aug 13 - 11:56 AM ""Your Uncle Tomming of a group of people is insulting. And the argument that "blacks don't care about guns anyway, so new gun laws won't hurt them" is mind-numbingly racist."" Best laugh I've had all week! An unreconstructed follower of Jim Crow Republicanism accusing Dems of "Uncle Tomming"! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 01 Aug 13 - 12:16 PM ""My state is training school employees to carry concealed weapons. Teachers, administrators, janitors. School safety problem solved. Those employees would do a hell a lot better on a psych eval than the Seattle goon squads, too."" Totally sick bollocks! You can train a man, woman, or child to hit a paper target nine times out of ten! But when that target is shooting back at them, nine out of ten will miss and four or five out of ten will die! Long established FACT! And you are stupid enough to call us brainwashed. Tell me Songwronger, have YOU ever had to point a gun at anybody who wasn't in a military uniform, and pull the trigger? Or are you just another Monday Morning quarterback, with more guesswork than knowledge? The reason why guns in homes lead to more deaths is partly that hesitant homeowners have their trusty weapons taken off them and used against them. It ain't easy for any non military man to take a life, and there aren't any second chances against modern criminals, who really don't give a damn. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Elmore Date: 01 Aug 13 - 12:18 PM BB are you losing it? Of course he's black, and I knew it. My point was that black people are politically heterogeneous, and to take a quote from one guy to attempt to further your peculiar political agenda is flat out stupid. Damn. I've been trolled again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 01 Aug 13 - 01:56 PM I don't understand why you are all freaking out like this. If Afro-Americans can be excluded from voting on the basis of background, then why can't the same sort of filtering mechanism be used to exclude them from legal gun ownership. All that would be needed beyond that is to skew the criminal justice system. That's already a done deal. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3676742 Btw, the criminalization of marijuana began as a racist thing. It was very popular on the black jazz scene. They didn't want it to catch on- but it did. Again, I don't understand why you're attacking Songwronger with such venom. What is this - thoughtcrime? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 01 Aug 13 - 02:52 PM BB are you losing it? Elmore, BullshitBruce lost it a very long time ago. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Elmore Date: 01 Aug 13 - 03:04 PM Right, Greg, assuming he ever had it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 01 Aug 13 - 04:51 PM Though I am going thru a phase of supporting Democrats in order to get the wacko Republicans away from the elvers of power, I am most concerned about the number of guns that Redneck Nation owns... They are scared to death that the US military is going to come for them and they will have to fight it out that it is beyond delusion-ally insane... It is delusion-ally insane on crack... But think about it... Most of these Rednecks have grown up listening to nothing but Republican fear mongering and they really do believe that the US military is coming for them... But wait... There's more... Guess who it is that is going to order the US miliatry to round up Redneck Nation??? Ya' give??? That's right... The "liberals" and "elitists" and "Democrats" are going to order this up??? See??? Delusional insanity on crack!!! Face it, "liberals, elitists (what ever that is) and Democrats don't have the power to order up anything much more than a pizza from Dominos, let alone order up the US military to arrest each and every redneck in America... Oh. and even if we did... Why would we??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 01 Aug 13 - 05:36 PM I am amazed at the number and variety of people who haven't a clue as to what at genuine Liberal is, yet they'll use the term as an epithet. Thus loudly and proudly demonstrating their own abysmal ignorance. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Richard Bridge Date: 01 Aug 13 - 05:43 PM Quite so DonF. But, boberdz - if the US military equipped with shock and awe came for the automatic-rifle toting republinuts - even the very few republinuts with tanks and helicopters - just how long would the republinuts last? There is absolutely no way that a militia could stand against the current might of the US military machine - and that fact removes even fanciful validity from the republinuts' argument that they need their guns to defend against overweening central power. No chance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 01 Aug 13 - 07:27 PM That's just it, Richard... Look what the US military has at its disposal... I mean, you can have a trailer full of AR-15s and guess what??? You are toast... The US military just takes you out with the push of a button from a drone... This is further proof that these pissed off rednecks are delusion-ally insane... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 01 Aug 13 - 08:09 PM The subject under discussion here is armed blacks and why the Democrats what to disarm them, but Bobert's frothing helps point something up--he wants to disarm and destroy his OWN culture, so naturally blacks are going to want to arm themselves against such lunatics. Bobert has been fed such a scramble of talking points over the years that he no longer knows what he believes. He's just crazy, and he wants to give away his means of protection. Other groups have to protect themselves against that kind of mindset. The second amendment to the constitution is the only one that uses the term "shall not be infringed." That's how important the right to bear arms is. But the Democrats began passing waves of anti-negro gun legislation after the Civil War, and they're still at it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 01 Aug 13 - 08:19 PM My culture is being a bluesman, wrong-man... My history has been heavy in the black culture... I see a lot of things thru the eyes of black people... No biggie... Now back to ***your*** insane thesis... BTW, if white people wanted to disarm black folks then white people would be all over gun control... They don't much like gun control... Do the math... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Songwronger Date: 01 Aug 13 - 08:33 PM No thinking person likes gun control. Take away the guns, you get Hitler. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Aug 13 - 08:53 PM 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ah.... What a rush... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 01 Aug 13 - 09:17 PM The usual NRA right wing BS about Hitler... What??? Keeping mentally ill and criminals from buy guns is like the SS??? Delusional, as per usual, wrongman... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 01 Aug 13 - 09:21 PM Well, lemme see. . . . Great Britain has some of the strictest firearms laws in the world and also one of the lowest firearms-related homicide rates in the world. Could there be a connection? And Hitler hasn't made a pest of himself since, oh, maybe seventy-some-odd years ago. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Aug 13 - 09:22 PM Why does a hamster run around frantically on the excercise wheel each day? Because he needs to burn off excess energy...and he can't think of any better way to do it. But what if the hamster could access the Internet via a tiny keyboard? And find other hamsters to fight with about politics? Hmm.....! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 01 Aug 13 - 09:32 PM Little Hawk, you really don't know what it's all about, do you? (That's not a question, that's a statement.) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Aug 13 - 10:14 PM Here we go.... ;-D A delightful little video of 2 Mudcat hamsters trying to dominate the political exercise wheel. Just imagine that instead of an exercise wheel, it's a Mudcat political thread. Round and round and round they GO!!! Whoah! A major spill there! How embarrassing! Thrills, chills, pratfalls, and the mad search for ultimate victory...that elusive goal, ever in sight, yet just out of reach. On the wheel... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Elmore Date: 01 Aug 13 - 10:42 PM Must be BB and SW. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Richard Bridge Date: 02 Aug 13 - 03:56 AM Even by Ding-dong's standards the assertion "Take away guns you get Hitler" is terminally stupid. The US army can outgun any collection of US gun-nuts. No point in having private guns to defend against them. The far less well equipped Libyan army could have blown all the Libyan rebels away without outside powers enforcing a "no-fly" zone. The Syrian army is showing the same. How did the Arab spring states topple dictators? - When the army changed sides. Have Palestinians got guns? Yes. Do the Israelis usually outgun them? Yes. Private guns are no defence against government. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Musket Date: 02 Aug 13 - 04:16 AM Must be summer fayre at the asylum. Over our side of the pond, we don't let black people have hand guns. Or white people. Or yellow people, or brown people and especially not ginger people. So the only people who guns are those willing to be criminals in order to have them. Do we have some gun crime? Yes. Do we have lots? No. Do police carry guns? No, only armed response units and airport security. What it tells me is that there is no need, no need whatsoever for private people to carry hand guns. None at all. Mind you, police carry truncheons which make "hard" men piss themselves laughing. Now they carry tasters which makes "hard" men just piss themselves... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 02 Aug 13 - 07:45 AM I think it needs to be pointed out that in terms of helping Afro-Americans achieve equality, the Republicans and Democrats switched sides somewhere along the way. So I think your info is simply out of date Songwronger. It would be the Republicans at this point that would want to find ways to discourage legal gun ownership among Afro-Americans. And, I'm sure they are doing it in the same way that they are discouraging the vote-in the backdoor. Plus making gun laws that allow white people to shoot minorities and get away with it is very much in line with their racist beliefs. Politically aware Afro-Americans are for gun control because they understand that although the gun culture didn't come from their community, they are the ones that are being hurt the most by this false sense of empowerment with guns- in a couple of different ways. They are notoriously bad shooters because they would be somewhat unwelcome at the shooting range. Cops and military- that's it. Not to be trusted unless firmly under the thumb of the state. What goes on in the gangsta subculture has done nothing to allay those fears. Pretty sure that was the point but it's not particularly helpful. But remember, demographics are changing. I'd like to see the police disarmed as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Aug 13 - 08:05 AM Oh, wouldn't I just love to see someone else impose a "no-fly zone" over the USA for a change, thus enabling ragtag bands of foreign-supplied domestic insurgents to topple the F-ing autocrats in Washington! It would be poetic justice, and it would make it finally clear and bring home to Americans what their country routinely does to other people around the world whenever it wishes to accomplish a "regime change" in some place where its imperial interests are concerned. (This, however, will not happen, because the USA spends more money on advanced weaponry than all the other nations in the world put together...therefore cannot be imposed upon in such a manner. The local greengrocer does not attempt to put the muscle on Al Capone, and Denmark does not invade Nazi Germany.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 02 Aug 13 - 09:20 AM The real question is, why do Chimps want to disarm Gorillas? Why? Because gorillas are damn dangerous, that's why! Simple. They should all be disarmed without exemption. They ain't smart enough to use arms responsibly, so just disarm 'em on principle, I say... And Baboons??? Even WORSE! No Baboon should EVER be permitted to own or handle a gun. Now Chimps, of course...there ya got responsible and smart gun owners who should be allowed to stockpile all the weapons and ammo they need, just in case. You never know when trouble can come knockin'. That's why I keep the tommy gun loaded and handy. Orangutans are in a sorta gray area....kinda hard to figure. Some of 'em are really smart, but the smart ones are treacherous, see? Then ya got the others that are as dumb as a post. I'm not sure they should be trusted with automatic weapons, so maybe limit 'em to semi-automatics, long guns, and ordinary handguns, and definitely no more than 500 extra rounds of ammo in storage. And humans? Ha! Disarm every last one of them suckers. They can't be trusted. History has proven this so many times already that I got no need to belabour the point. - Chongo p.s. Another question: Why does the whole world want to disarm the USA? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 02 Aug 13 - 09:25 AM "Take away guns you get Hitler" is terminally stupid. Not only is it terminally stupid, Richard, its also incorrect. Hitler actually RELAXED controls on firearms. The claim is pure BB-class horseshit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 02 Aug 13 - 09:28 AM Little Hawk, you really don't know what it's all about, do you? I'm pretty sure, Don, that deep down he does know - he just doesn't CARE. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Musket Date: 02 Aug 13 - 09:55 AM Taser. Not taster. Auto correct about to be disabled. Ive been threatening to do it for ages. On my work laptop, I have to type organism from time to time, as in alert organisms for infection control purposes. What does the bloody thing change it to? Orgasm. The times I have walked into a meeting and the giggling starts the moment you walk in. Thread drift, although the thread is sanity drift. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 02 Aug 13 - 09:59 AM Yup, Greg... I mean, I like LH but he is the kind of person that John Lennon was talking about in "Working Class Hero"... You know, trying to be "classless and free but you're all fucking peasant as far as I can see"... But LH's apathy ain't what this thread is about... I'm really not sure what it is about as it is based on the mythology of someone with serious mental problems... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 02 Aug 13 - 10:32 AM It ain't apathy. It's amusement. He's laughin' at you guys. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 02 Aug 13 - 11:41 AM No, Chongz... He's laughing at you... And for good reason... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 02 Aug 13 - 01:44 PM You're undoubtedly right, Greg. But I'd say that if he doesn't care, then he doesn't really know. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 02 Aug 13 - 02:06 PM Chongo, aww c'mon, you know why everybody wants to disarm the US. It's because of stuff like this: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/27/homeland-security-seeking-7000-a |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Aug 13 - 02:20 PM Oh, I care about the actual issues, Don. What I don't give a tinker's toss about is...your opinions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 02 Aug 13 - 03:14 PM Well, in your case, I can understand why. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 02 Aug 13 - 05:00 PM What particular issues are those that you do care about, Hawk? Please elaborate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 02 Aug 13 - 05:30 PM Good luck, Greg... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 02 Aug 13 - 06:50 PM 'Nuff said. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 02 Aug 13 - 07:13 PM ""The second amendment to the constitution is the only one that uses the term "shall not be infringed." That's how important the right to bear arms is."" What the second amendment actually says: ""Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."" OK, you've got the right Songwronger and it mustn't be infringed. So tell me what well regulated militia you belong to, how often you train and what are your rules of engagement, which justify you having that right under the second amendment? That's the bit you never bother with, assuming that you can read and don't just get your ideas pre-digested, from the NRA. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 02 Aug 13 - 07:26 PM ""A delightful little video of 2 Mudcat hamsters trying to dominate the political exercise wheel."" A delightful little video of 1 Mudcat hamster trying to dominate the political exercise wheel, by patronising, and belittling all the other hamsters to make himself feel bigger, smarter and superior in every way. Good luck with that. You are just another hamster, with delusions of grandeur. Not even a lowly Baron, let alone King RAT! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 02 Aug 13 - 07:31 PM The gun wackos never, never, never answer the question regarding the wording of the 2nd amendment... Never... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 02 Aug 13 - 08:03 PM You are just another hamster, with delusions of grandeur. On behalf of hamsters worldwide, I wish to state that comparing these noble rodents with Hawk is an insult of the first degree. If nothing else, hamsters are a helluva lot smarter and more in tune with reality. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 02 Aug 13 - 08:25 PM ""I wish to state that comparing these noble rodents with Hawk is an insult of the first degree."" Sorry Guvnor, but it were that there Little Auk wot started it, honest Guv! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Richard Bridge Date: 02 Aug 13 - 08:27 PM Funny about the punctuation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 02 Aug 13 - 08:38 PM Whose? Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 02:30 AM Bobert the Robot: "The gun wackos never, never, never answer the question regarding the wording of the 2nd amendment... Never..." Hey..You're the putz who shot the turtle!..and then you want to lecture us about 'gun wackos'????????? GfS Fucking hypocrites! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,SJL Date: 03 Aug 13 - 03:11 AM GfS, don't insult Bobert. I thought you were a cool dude. Still think so but watch your step :-) Whose side are you on? Weren't you the guy who said there isn't a "side."? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 03:15 AM I'm not..He DID shoot a turtle!...and I'm not on any side..I'm not divided! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 03:30 AM Hey, if you don't think people should have guns, then throw yours away! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Sister Mary Date: 03 Aug 13 - 04:23 AM For a price I'd do about anything Except pull the trigger For that I'd need a pretty good cause Then I heard of Dr. X The man with the cure Just watch the television Yeah, you'll see there's something going on Got no love for politicians Or that crazy scene in D.C. It's just a power mad town But the time is ripe for changes There's a growing feeling That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due I used to trust the media To tell me the truth, tell us the truth But now I've seen the payoffs Everywhere I look Who do you trust when everyone's a crook? Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you [There's a] Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through I'm tired of all this bullshit They keep selling me on T.V. About the communist plan And all the shady preachers Begging for my cash Swiss bank accounts while giving their Secretaries the slam They're all in Penthouse now Or Playboy magazine, million dollar stories to tell I guess Warhol wasn't wrong Fame fifteen minutes long Everyone's using everybody, making the sale I used to think That only America's way, way was right But now the holy dollar rules everybody's lives Gotta make a million doesn't matter who dies Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you [There's a] Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through I used to trust the media To tell me the truth, tell us the truth But now I've seen the payoffs Everywhere I look Who do you trust when everyone's a crook? Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you [There's a] Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5wXuH-iiaI&sns=em |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Red Queen Date: 03 Aug 13 - 04:30 AM http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ARuoSFflc Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, No escape from reality. Open your eyes, Look up to the skies and see, I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy, Because I'm easy come, easy go, Little high, little low, Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me, to me. Mama, just killed a man, Put a gun against his head, Pulled my trigger, now he's dead. Mama, life had just begun, But now I've gone and thrown it all away. Mama, ooh, Didn't mean to make you cry, If I'm not back again this time tomorrow, Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters. Too late, my time has come, Sent shivers down my spine, Body's aching all the time. Goodbye, everybody, I've got to go, Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth. Mama, ooh (any way the wind blows), I don't wanna die, I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all. I see a little silhouetto of a man, Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango? Thunderbolt and lightning, Very, very frightening me. (Galileo) Galileo. (Galileo) Galileo, Galileo Figaro Magnifico. I'm just a poor boy and nobody loves me. He's just a poor boy from a poor family, Spare him his life from this monstrosity. Easy come, easy go, will you let me go? Bismillah! No, we will not let you go. (Let him go!) Bismillah! We will not let you go. (Let him go!) Bismillah! We will not let you go. (Let me go) Will not let you go. (Let me go) Will not let you go. (Never, never, never let me go) Ah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. (Oh, mama mia, mama mia) Mama mia, let me go. Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for me, for me. So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye? So you think you can love me and leave me to die? Oh, baby, can't do this to me, baby, Just gotta get out, just gotta get right outta here. (Oh, yeah, oh yeah) Nothing really matters, Anyone can see, Nothing really matters, Nothing really matters to me. Any way the wind blows. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 04:55 AM Ahh..What a half witted notion..to look at life through the filter of fucking politics!! What a limited sense of reality!....all made of hot air and bullshit! Stereo politicians, speaking out of both the corners of their mouths at the same time....every fucking one of them! Aren't you glad YOU subscribe?? ..and all your left with, is a third the idiot you already are! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Greg F. Date: 03 Aug 13 - 08:33 AM Gopod old Frank. He's sorely missed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 13 - 10:44 AM I shot the turtle But I did not shoot the deputy... Hey, I'm a country boy... Guns are for protection and to put badly hurt and dieing animals out of their misery... I felt terrible about shooting the turtle... Still do... But it was either the turtle or one of my 3 cats... I picked the turtle... This, BTW, wasn't a water turtle or a box turtle... This was a hug snapping turtle... And, no, I couldn't have gotten the cats inside as two of them aren't inside cats and wouldn't come inside if I tried to get them inside... It was a judgement call... I think I made the right call but still feel bad... See, that's how responsible adult process information, GfinS... They don't go "Whoopie" when a murderer beat the rap... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 11:12 AM Bobert the Robot: "Hey, I'm a country boy... Guns are for protection ....It was a judgement call... I think I made the right call but still feel bad..." So did George Zimmerman! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 11:36 AM Next you'll be telling us that the turtle was straddling you, beating the crap out of you, MMA style, and you reached up and shot him. He put his head into his shell, and you took it as a 'hoodie'...Hey, and aren't you a bit discriminating?..You seem to draw a line between...wait, I'll quote you,: "I picked the turtle... This, BTW, wasn't a water turtle or a box turtle... This was a hug snapping turtle..." People like you SHOULDN'T have guns...just like Firth shouldn't be a political 'activist' (rolls eyes), telling people how to raise their families, and what's good for the community of broken homes! I'll say one thing, since you've been so buddy buddy with him, now even you are starting to make up new stories! So, between you, the shooter of turtles, and Don, the erudite family/community planner, I've came up with a most apropos little tune.... Froth and the Robot Enjoy!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 13 - 12:40 PM No, GfinS... George Zimmerman disobeyed the police dispatcher, grabbed his gun and took off on foot after Trayvon Martin... Why don't you accept the truth... It makes you sound like the KKK when you make such blatantly false statements about the facts of the case... It was Trayvon Martin who was trying to defend himself against a much larger man who was stalking him... That is not in dispute and you, like you hero, Zimmerman have never shown any remorse for the loss of this 17 year old boy... Just defense of the murderer... Shame on you, dude... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 01:52 PM That's only YOUR version....was the turtle trying to get away, too?...or did you shoot him in cold blood?..or were you shooting him in self defense??...The way you make it sound, a big snapping turtle, looked rather threatening, didn't it? ..maybe when Trayvon was wearing his 'hoodie', Zimmerman thought it was the KKK, by mistake!..Ya' never know.....but I'm sure you and the Frothmeister could make up another scenario...that's what you've been doing! Poor turtle!..I know!..You had to do it in self defense..now it all makes sense....after all, in the other 'Abby' thread you think the P-Vine is going to beat you up, for stepping on her shoes....mercy mercy, me! Hide the Robot's guns...QUICK!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 03 Aug 13 - 02:11 PM ""So did George Zimmerman!"" Oh SURE he did! He felt sorry he had to go through a farcical trial before getting back to work, protecting the world from black teenagers. He never gave a sign of remorse! He never said a word of genuine regret! What he did say was "It was God's will!" Seems his God is as prejudiced as he is. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 02:18 PM Making up more 'stuff'?? Don T : "He never said a word of genuine regret!" GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Aug 13 - 02:42 PM Does anyone need any more proof that Goofball is a certifiable idiot? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 04:20 PM Plenty more..because you haven't produced any of it...you just have your fucked up opinions, and think its the new law of physics! go make up some more stuff, and come back when it's even stupider! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Aug 13 - 04:50 PM No, Goofus, I don't have to do a thing. All you have to do to prove your idiocy is just keep right on posting your usual stuff. Enough of talking to the entity that grew in the Petri dish. Now, back to human discourse. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 05:09 PM Blowhard and Froth....Try to think REAL hard who this may be talking about....good Ol' Biff... ...and WHO'S the goofball??????????????? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 06:06 PM Nice piano playing, huh? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Aug 13 - 06:08 PM Family pictures, Goofus? I didn't have to be taught to be a man. That's just how I grew up. It's genetic. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 13 - 07:58 PM The piano was, at best, average... My wife, the P-Vine, who BTW is a retired music teacher and always says she's not a piano player, can play that song not for note without working up a sweat... Me??? I thought the song sucked... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 09:11 PM Figures!(for Robot)..not enough KKK in it, huh? As for the Frother, "I didn't have to be taught to be a man. That's just how I grew up." I was talking about your son, that you abandoned, you self absorbed piece of shit! Probably never occurred to you! Oh well, out of sight..out of mind! GfS P.S. I can't believe this asshole! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Aug 13 - 09:22 PM Because I didn't "abandon" my son, you self-absorbed lying piece of shit! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 13 - 09:23 PM No, GfinS... The song ain't about KKK or nuthin' heavy like that... It just sucked... Reminded me of Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey"... Just sappy whiny crap disguised as music... Sorry... Post better music and I promise I'll be impressed... But this song sucks... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 09:45 PM The Bobsy Twins! You're right, Don..you abandoned the mother when you found out she was pregnant!..and everybody else in the bar was still hitting on her. You couldn't take the 'competition'! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Aug 13 - 10:33 PM We didn't meet in a bar, and I did not abandon her OR my son. That's a fiction that YOU made up about me. You are a liar. Somehow, you're pissed at me because YOUR father ran off with a male lover, abandoning YOU. And that's also the reason you hate homosexuality while, at the same time, being terrified of your own genes. That also accounts for you insisting that sexual orientation is a matter of choice, not of genetics. You're scared spitless of what your OWN genes might haul off and do. Or are you already afraid of what and who attracts you? None of which has anything to do with the subject of the thread, but YOU, Goofball, brought the matter up. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Aug 13 - 11:09 PM Well, yours is pure bullshit....one thing for sure, you were a sperm donor, but didn't stick around to be a father...and somehow, I just think that people who think they have political ambitions, should at least, take care of their own house before looking down on people who actually do it!...and then try to convince people that YOUR idea of taking care of people is a 'better way'...You haven't the foggiest idea, of what it takes to be a parent/father, but then you're going to dictate what is good for people who are doing it. Stick to Beethoven...you suck at politics...though you are extremely opinionated, and if you have to make something up, you will, just to prove a point, or avoid confrontation on the personal front, for some stupid reason. ..and you know what?....Being a father, and grandfather, listening to you take yourself so seriously, is a new level of shallowness...to the point of being downright silly!...but you CAN'T See it...and just blather on.... Have a nice blank stare, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Elmore Date: 03 Aug 13 - 11:59 PM Oy vey! Mon Dieu! Holy shit! No mas! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: Don Firth Date: 04 Aug 13 - 12:25 AM Lies. All lies. He's simply making this up, folks. But what can one expect from someone who is as bigoted, hostile, and delusional as Goofball is? "Guest from Sanity" indeed. Emphasis on the FROM. End of communication with this lower life form. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do Democrats want to Disarm Blacks? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Aug 13 - 01:24 AM Being as you use 'genetics' to rationalize deviant sexual behavior, would you say that getting a girl pregnant, then leaving both of them, to pursue a 'career', would you say that's 'genetic', or behavioral? Just curious......................................(on your behalf). GfS P.S. Somebody had to ask it. |
