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Subject: This parrots dead! From: Eric the Viking Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:23 PM You asked for a Monty Python thread- Well here it is. I am sure that many of us need to get it off our chests. To do this I have one weapon! My undying sense of humour and my love of python- Sorry my 2 weapons are my love of python, my undying sense of humour and my recall of favourite python moments-Sorry- my 3 weapons are................ And surely "I'm a lumberjack" must rank high in folk songs performed all over the world. In fact at the Fylde folk festival it was performed with Gusto!! and some onther folk singers-Now where di I put that that man? Oh yes on the television.............. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bert Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:27 PM Monty Python - A cheap vulgar imitation of "The Goon Show" |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:31 PM Oh, a Python detractor, I expected that about as much as I expected the Spanish Inquistion. Cheddar? We don't get much call for that around here.
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bert Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:32 PM "No one expects The Spanish Inquisition" |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: MMario Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:36 PM Try growing up in guilt ridden New England....you don't expect the spanish inquisition because you live with it day in and day out |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:45 PM How dare you! - there is nothing at all that could come close to the Sainted Goons! You dirty rotted swine you, you can't do that to me, I am an East Finchley type boy scout!!! The only record (of about 300) that my husband and I had in common when we married, was the Ying Tong Song..... Does that say anything about us? Monty Python is very nearly equal to the Goons, there is nothing cheap or vulgar about it, well, OK maybe rude, but you have to put it into perspective, the Goons were still dealing with a very post war audience, still rationed and with very obvious wounds of war, either visible, invisible, physical, mental or material. They opened up a half an hour when you could totally disregard what had happened that day, when nonsense was allowed free reign, and the strict regime of scrimp and save could be abandoned for a while. I grew up with things like the Not the 9 'o' clock News, and The Young Ones, now they were cheap and vulgar! Something like that 25/45 years ago would have been totally incomprehensible. The Goons never used obscene language, the Pythons used only what would be termed the mildest of swear words now, until the films extended their vocabulary. And don't forget, the Goons themselves are fans of Monty Python, even to the extent of Spike appearing in Life of Brian. OK, getting off high horse now, don't forget, we are all individuals! LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bert Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:53 PM I think it's vulgar when someone brings in a sack which is supposed to contain his mother's body and they decide to eat it. Extremely tasteless and very distressing for viewers who were newly bereaved. Bert. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Metchosin Date: 04 Nov 99 - 04:55 PM Gee guys, I was just going to add an "Oscar Myer Weiner" to the "what do you want to be when you grow up" thread. Should I botch up a submission to the DT again and submit "all things dull and ugly, all creatures short and squat" or is it already there |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:06 PM Don't know about that, but I'm rather fond of the Noel Coward parody (!) from Meaning of Life - after all, it is awfully nice to have a penis..... so I'm told! LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:08 PM Bert, I agree that Python had some tasteless moments, especially in their latter years, but I think that they were brilliant most of the time and gave us a new way to look at comedy. I've heard some of the Goon stuff and really enjoyed it, but I think although influenced by the Goons were fresh and innovative. I'm not here for an argument though. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Eric the Viking Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:15 PM Steve-Yes you are, is that the full half hour? |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bert Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:20 PM A colleage at work had just lost his wife when that episode aired. I never did watch the show much after that. The introduction was so infantile that it was always a signal to switch channels. They could be amusing at times but I didn't see anything brilliant. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Eric the Viking Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:41 PM But! Python were no more cheap and vulgar than many other things in History. The brothers Grimm or Hans Christen Anderson told the story of Big Claus and Little Claus who pretended to sell a dead granny and then the other killed his to sell. Many of our folk songs are based on tradgedies, murder, rape and other things that really happened and at the time for individuals things such as this must be painful. Having had both parents and many friends die over the years I have never put a taboo on anything and can usually find something of humour. Humour often comes from looking at the absurd, or tragic and learning to laugh and live with it. Let's not get this too serious and allow ouselves to disagree because of the way personal circumstances have affected our lives. Next please! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: lamarca Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:47 PM Good evening, it's 5:47 and time for the penguin on top of your television set to explode... |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:47 PM Good point Eric- my brother was killed in a drink driving incident (he was sober and walking), if I let that influence my life, I wouldn't a) drive a car, b) drink anything stronger than flavoured milk or c) dare walk along a street again. He introduced me to Python, mainly because our parents would tell him to turn it off, and that parental taboo is what made it the cult programme it is today, I mean, how many others out there watched it in secret whilst parents were out, or round a friend's house, or fumed in ignorance when they were discovered and forbidden to watch? LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Metchosin Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:48 PM Well I could have posted "All things Dull and Ugly", but " I didn't have the Latin for it.........." |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: sophocleese Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:53 PM My parents once decided to take a Monty Python video out of the local library. Some, probably rushed and overworked, librarian had accidentally placed a video of ballet instruction into the case. Result? Mom and Dad spent 15 minutes watching a ballet lesson waiting for John Cleese to show up in a tutu. I enjoyed watching what Monty Python I could as I was growing up but I got tired of hearing the same lines repeated over and over and over and over by my brother and his friends. But then again where else would I get my name? I couldn't call myself Bruce. Sophocleese |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Peter T. Date: 04 Nov 99 - 05:59 PM Wensleydale? Double Gloucester? Edam? yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Nov 99 - 06:16 PM Ha you think that it was an accident!! I may well have been that over worked, rushed librarian, and I can say now without fear of reprisals (I've already been sacked for being off sick too much with asthma, I have nothing to lose), that I have done that DELIBERATLEY!!! Not with Python, but with some slash and gash films we stocked. I slipped in the British Pathe Collection 'A Year to Remember', 1954 was one of my favourite years, along with 1977 (I had to suffer the Bay City Rollers, why shouldn't everyone else!) and 1948. Hee hee hee, manic type laughter and cries of 'a shrubbery, a shrubbery!' I think that I need a lie down now, the thought of John Cleese in a tutu is more than is good for me. Do you think perhaps he has the suspendies and a bra - although I understand this did not translate well across the pond - suspenders being what the British call braces, big thick bits of elastic that go over the shoulders and keep the trousers that essential 3 inches below the nipples. I'm going, before some moistened bint lobs a scimitar at me..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: kendall Date: 04 Nov 99 - 06:43 PM There is no way I can compare the Goons to Python, never having seen the Goons, but, Monty Phython and the Holy Grail is still one of the funniest movies I have ever seen. And, if you dont like it...NEE. Of course that bit about a dead mother could be traumatic for one who just lost his mother, but, time equals comedy. As the saying goes..Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play? Enough time has passed for that to be funny. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Magpie Date: 04 Nov 99 - 07:10 PM In my first band, we had ritual of practicing during weekends. We'd practice and drink on Friday, 'till it was no more point in practicing, and we'd end up watching Python 'till we fell asleep. The same would happen on Saturdays, and on Sundays, we'd need a good, long walk before we could even think about practicing. So we'd swap clothes (one of us was unbelievably tall and skinny, one was just skinny, one rather short and plump, and one just about average) and the we'd go "silly walking" for about three hours up in the woods. Returning, we'd try to practice, but our legs would be so sore from the silly walks, and our jaws so stiff from all the laughing, we couldn't be bothered. Needless to say, we never amounted tomuch! Magpie |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Lonesome EJ Date: 04 Nov 99 - 07:27 PM Monty Python in a Nutshell "does this bus go to Luton?"said the Minister of Running upstairs two-at-a-time and shouting out HaHa Mabel I Caught you."Let me answer that in two ways,"replied the driver,"firstly in my normal voice,and secondly in this sort of high-pitched screechy wail..this bus certainly does not go to Luton!..ahemm..this bus certainly does not go..."At the next stop Winkle and his Flying Cats got on the bus."tell me, Winkle,"I asked,"does the pussy actually fly?""No," replied Winkle,"I fling her." We paused for fifteen minutes while a road crew removed several exploding Scotsmen who had been placed in the roadway, apparently by that nice Mr Hilter,who was so interested in renting bombers by the hour. We were hungry and someone had some cheese. It started innocently enough, but soon we were all dressing up as mice a bit nudge-nudge,wink-winkyour wife?does she go?I mean, is she a goer? Here have some spam and eggs, or spam, scones,eggs and spam, or some chips,spam,sausage,spam,spam..Spam-Spam-Spam-Spam..." |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: alison Date: 04 Nov 99 - 08:07 PM NO, NO, Not the comfy cushions!!!! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bill D Date: 04 Nov 99 - 08:25 PM I still think that fellow who tried to jump the English Channel just wasn't training hard enough! (and I have been using "Ni!" as my 'you tried something illegal' sound on my computer for 3 years now..) my wife threatens me when it starts going.."Ni.Ni..Ni...Ni.." I am looking for a .wav of "Bring me a shrubbery!" |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Lonesome EJ Date: 04 Nov 99 - 08:32 PM What was the National Poet of Scotland's name?
"If ye could but see yer way clear |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Caitrin Date: 04 Nov 99 - 08:45 PM I love Monty Python! My parents sat me down with Holy Grail when I was about 12, and I've loved it ever since. My friends and I periodically rent it again just to make sure we remember all the words. And the parrot's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Nov 99 - 09:42 PM Well, I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK, but the guy who runs Carol Cleveland's Fan Club is a true psychotic. You need to join "Castle Cleveland" and pay homage to "Her Carolness" so you can get the most obsessive e-mail on the net! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bugsy Date: 04 Nov 99 - 09:44 PM The trouble with died in the wool Python/Goon fans, or any other fans for that matter, is that they seem to think that "ALL" of their material is classic. IMHO, you sometimes have to wade through quite a bit of mediocre stuff before encountering some sparks of brilliance. Having said that, I do think that the Goons were better - Min. Cheers Bugsy |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Tony Burns Date: 04 Nov 99 - 10:13 PM By the way, John Cleese turned 60 about 2 weeks ago. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: alison Date: 05 Nov 99 - 01:03 AM ... and has recently had a hip replacement... more useless trivia *grin* |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Date: 05 Nov 99 - 01:28 AM Comedians are hatched like chickens not made like soup. But there are a lot of plastic comics in every entertainment center I know, also and this makes me sick these eeejits copy any thing vaguely funny and repeat it over and over amd over gawd...yeuch. All time favorites, Marx Brothers :0) |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Ana Date: 05 Nov 99 - 02:16 AM Being neither British or US, (NZ actually) I'm in the blessed situation of having both "humour" cultures to compare via TV, whilst belonging to neither. There's a huge difference between the two but I'm at a loss to catagorise them. There seems to be something very bent and whacky about British humour that tickles me (ooh!) in a way that American hasn't yet. I grew up with great dour comedies like "Hancocks half hour" and "Step-toe and Son", and "I Love Lucy" ...waaaah...get my drift? Now I get depressed because I haven't got to see "Red Dwarf" for yonks...now that scene of virtual reality sex was something else!!!! So the Goon show & Monty Python huh? great stuff - I hear that a "Fish called Wanda" was a bomb in the States? Why was that? Ana |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 05 Nov 99 - 04:32 AM Kendall, the whole point is you don't SEE the Goons - how would this translate to the screen?: Seagoon: 'Right Eccles, stand on my shoulders.' Much fumbling and grunting from both Eccles and Seagoon. Seagoon: 'OK, now pull me up!' More fumbling and grunting. Eccles: (strained) 'I'd like to see them do this on TV!' As has been said for many years, listen to the radio, the pictures are better. And for Ana - A Fish called Wanda bombed because it was full of US actors so they expected a) a US slant, and b) US comedy, which is clearly not the same as UK or others. The US remake pilot of Red Dwarf, starring only Bob Llewellyn from the original, never got off the studio floor, because although production was 100 times better, with a bigger budget, there were so many script changes to bring it up/down to US humour levels, that it just flapped around like Rimmer's bottom jaw... And yes, the virtual reality sex scene was something else, but will it ever eclipse the Polymorph episode, where it turns into Listers trolleys and Kryten has to get 'em off....... I raved about this programme before anyone else in my area (deepest darkest rural Wainscotting type place) had even seen it, but then, I've always been a bit ...... strange. Lizthe Squeak |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 99 - 07:54 AM Down to American standards? did you ever see Barney Miller? or M.A.S.H. ?? top quality humor. Now, I must admit that in the last few years, out tv humor has gone down hill because all the writers are under 30. Its pap for the masses. Thats why I watch Keeping up appearences for instance. (Thank God Benny Hill is no longer on.)He represented the worst of British humor. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Blackcat2 Date: 05 Nov 99 - 09:22 AM Anyone see the "John Cleese in Madagascar hangin' with lemeurs" show on PBS that aired recently? Interesting, relatively funny but I think the best line was when he mentioned that he'd finally been somewhere Michael Palin haden't! pax |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 05 Nov 99 - 11:22 AM Lets not argue about who killed who. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: John Wood Date: 05 Nov 99 - 11:30 AM After all the Parrot is dead(or should I say deceased)!! John |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 05 Nov 99 - 11:45 AM STOP THAT F#%KING BAZOOKI PLAYING!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Lonesome EJ Date: 05 Nov 99 - 12:09 PM "A Fish Called Wanda" bombed in America? First I've heard- I thought it was a smash hit. The follow-up, Fierce Creatures, was a deserved bomb, showing that Cleese was quite capable of uninspired drivel just to make a buck. And I agree with Kendall- American sitcoms are often very good. Just a few- Seinfeld, Cheers, Taxi, Barney Miller,Drew Carey Show,Wings, Frazier,Raymond, Dick Van Dyke Show. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 05 Nov 99 - 12:55 PM But Kendall, Benny Hill is going through a huge revivial, purely due to the US market. I hated it then and I hate it now. Besides I did say up to US standards as well, as far as I'm concerned, our house stops on Friday evening, when Friends and Frasier are screened, although I'm afraid Taxi was gladly missed. And as for all those chat show things, like Oprah, Jerry Springer and co, I think they are hysterical, sad, but hysterical!!! And no, I've never seen Barney Miller. MASH was brilliant, but I was spoiled by reading the book first, then seeing the film. After that, there was no element of surprise. If you like reading, try the war memoirs of Spike Milligan. They begin with 'Hitler, my part in his Downfall' I was asked to leave a train carriage, I laughed so much.... Watch out for 'Plunger' Bailey, that's all I can say, no way could HE be invented..... Must go, Simpsons are on in a minute, and it might be one I haven't seen yet..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bert Date: 05 Nov 99 - 12:59 PM Another book that will get you laughing out loud is "Wilt" by Tom Sharpe. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 05 Nov 99 - 02:25 PM They Call me............................... Tim |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: roopoo Date: 05 Nov 99 - 05:37 PM Rolling in a bit late here, but did anybody just see that flying sheep....? Nah, it was merely plummeting! By the way, what exactly DID John Cleese say about the Lemurs? 'blah, blah blah.. but a bit dim' was the most I got out of it when I saw it last. mouldy |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Eric the Viking Date: 05 Nov 99 - 05:47 PM Burn the witch! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 05 Nov 99 - 05:52 PM We did do the nose. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Eric the Viking Date: 05 Nov 99 - 05:56 PM True that not all great works by anybody are great just because. I always believe that Jimmi Hendrix was one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived, but quite a few of his tracks were rubbish. That however does not detract from overall greatness. Take the goons! Who could ever believe that Ireland floated away from England? It's obvious it drifted over and down from North America and Canada!! By the way. There are many good books by Tom Sharpe "Wilt being only one, try "The throwback" and two set in south Africa then names of which escape me. "Bring out your dead!" |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bill D Date: 05 Nov 99 - 06:00 PM (Benny Hill was not supposed to be funny...*wink*...it was mostly an excuse for his preoccupation with half-dressed women...) |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: roopoo Date: 06 Nov 99 - 03:46 AM Eric: the two Tom Sharpes set in S.Africa are "Riotous Assemby" and "Indecent Exposure". My copy of the former has the novelty of a sticker on the front which reads "Now Unbanned". Unique,eh? Guess where I bought it? We couldn't dance Morris in the street out there for risk of being arrested for the same. If more than 4 people were gathered, they got a bit twitchy. I bought the second one in Botswana. mouldy |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Micca Date: 06 Nov 99 - 07:56 AM My Great-niece was thrown out of her Religous Education class and her mother written to, by the school for teaching her class " All things dull and Ugly" and they sang it in school assembly from the stage ,word perfect.I don't know where she got the text, He says, adopting an innocent expression and whistling tunelessly as he drifts away, well, every child is SUPPOSED to have an Uncle who buys/ supplies/ explains the things that parents don't. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Amaranth Date: 06 Nov 99 - 10:20 AM Does inclusion of this discussion mean that Bonzo Dog Doo Dah band is folk music? |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 06 Nov 99 - 03:51 PM 'Blott on the Landscape' has always been one of my Tom Sharpe favourites, and for those of you with a University bent, try 'Porterhouse Blue', once televised, with David Jason (Frost, Open all hours, Only Fools and horses) as 'Skullion'.. excellent!! LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: sophocleese Date: 06 Nov 99 - 04:19 PM Thanks Liz I hadn't realized it had been made into a movie. I thoroughly enjoyed the book. Also for university types there are the David Lodge books, Small World and Changing Places, I think are the titles but I'm not sure. For Canadians there is Virtual Freedom by Sean Kane which I found quite silly in places. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: wildlone Date: 06 Nov 99 - 05:12 PM Searching the web I found. www.montypython.net/grailsounds.htm This site has links to other python sites+wav files if your puwter can handle them [format]wl. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 06 Jan 00 - 04:02 PM the Why do you want to be a musician thread reminded me of "Why do want to join the secret service?" |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Blackcat2 Date: 06 Jan 00 - 04:12 PM But obviously the thread isn't! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: kendall Date: 06 Jan 00 - 05:16 PM I'd rather be a lion tamer..yes, I have my own hat. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Victoria Date: 06 Jan 00 - 05:56 PM And speaking of classic folk songs... "Rum Tum BUCKETY............." |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: TerriM Date: 06 Jan 00 - 07:01 PM Sorry I couldn't get here before, it was all the dead bishops on the landing! IOf course the Bonzo Dog Do dah Band was folk, what other possible category could they be in. On e of the things I like best about folk is it's reputation for giving shelter and succour to the outlandish, the outrageous and the downright wierd. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 06 Jan 00 - 07:15 PM It's not dead it's just hibernating...And now for something completely different. I think the forerunner of Monty Python was not the Goon Show but a radio show in England called I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again.....Python and a lesser known show called The Goodies were spawned from the radio. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 06 Jan 00 - 07:21 PM You don't go through the hardships of a ocean voyage to make friends.. you can make friends at home... Other interesting John Cleese trivia... In a recent interview I saw of him, he admitted that he finds very little remotely funny in the Monty Python stuff... and I have to say I kinda agree... But I think in my case it's more a matter of famillarity breeding contempt... I've seen most of the stuff so many times that I'm sick of it... Except for maybe Life Of Brian which I rent most easters... What's this?? *stands with arms outstretched* A crapy way to spend Easter!! LOL!! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: johnp Date: 06 Jan 00 - 07:54 PM This is getting too silly |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: kendall Date: 06 Jan 00 - 08:44 PM I agree..what's next ? crazed politicians doing things to their naughty bits at Tupperware parties? JUST STOP IT!! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: John in Brisbane Date: 06 Jan 00 - 11:03 PM Just a note of history. I first discovered the Goons on TV - via the Telegoons (circa 1964) via ABC in Australia. They were marionettes/puppets or something and that was the last I have ever seen of them. I don't know whether they were re-hashes of previously recorded radio shows or unique scripts. Either way they were a great introduction for me to the Goons.
If you really want to enjoy the Goons or Monty Python again just kill off a few brain cells with excessive substance abuse over a number of years and every time you hear an old episode it will be fresh and funny again. And don't be tempted to keep episodes as part of your home audio/video collection - far better to really enjoy them when they occasionally pop up on radio/TV/airplane entertainment.
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: sophocleese Date: 06 Jan 00 - 11:34 PM I've only ever heard the Goons, occasionally on radio and on a couple of albums that my parents had. Probably responsible for all the strange things in my life since....Anyway my brother just lent me a couple of tapes of Goon Shows. It says on the back "From 1952 to 1960 the Goons ruled the airwaves, The most celebrated and influential clowns in the history of radio." They certainly were silly enough. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Rick Fielding Date: 07 Jan 00 - 12:22 AM This is absolutely true. When I met my wife Heather (Duckboots, here) although I was mightily attracted to her legs and other parts, her kindness and Scottish heritage...it was her amazing impersonation of Minnie Bannister that hooked me for good. I replied with an unerring Henry Crun, and we've been inseperable and insufferable ever since! Rick |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: roopoo Date: 07 Jan 00 - 03:06 AM I remember "I'm sorry I'll read that again"! I can even sing the theme song: 'My name is Angus Prune and this is my tune...' Ah yes, Lady Constance DeCoverlet... I thought it sort of ran at the same time as Python. It was the Goodies who were involved with that show, as well as many of the then active BBC comedy sketch writers. Mind you, as the whole lot was 30 years ago, it's hard to pinpoint events. I know we did our upper sixth contribution to the school concert in 1970 based on Python/I'm Sorry influences and the audience didn't understand a bit of it! We could hardly perform for laughing. What is nice is that all my kids love it, and Python still works today. I will also own up to possessing volume 1 of the scripts. mouldy |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Jan 00 - 03:37 AM Who said that the Goodies were the lesser known?! Come on, own up!!! My 3 year old loves the Goodies, particularly the Beanstalk episode (mostly filmed in and around Dorchester and Portland, Dorset UK that is....) and the one with the giant kitten, Twinkle. She also likes the 'Scoutrageous' episode.........! TerriM - just what is the do dah that Bonzo Dog is referring to?? And I thought I told you to clear those dead bishops away months ago - they make the house smell like Cologne Cathedral!! LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 07 Jan 00 - 08:03 AM Liz, the guilty party about The Goodies, twas I the Ancient Mariner (who was at HMS Osprey, Portland Dorset, {now closed} before the Goodies) sorry. but not as many people over here heard of the "Goodies" But there are roughly ten times the number of Pythonites. Yours,(heartily sorry I offended ye) Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Ian Stephenson Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:05 AM I like chinese I like chinese They only come up to your knees, but they're cute and they're cuddly and they're ready to please!
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:27 AM Stop that F%#king bouzouki playing!!!!!11 |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: jeffp Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:29 AM I'm surprised that nobody here has mentioned "Beyond the Fringe." They were a comedy quartet that fell sort of between the Goons and Monty Python, consisting of Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, Jonathan Miller, and somebody whose name escapes me. I discovered Peter Cook and Dudley Moore on an album titled "Good Evening," which is still hilarious, especially the interview of a shepherd by a reporter from the Bethlehem Star shortly after the events of 2000 years ago. "Was the Holy Spirit there?" "Hard to tell. He's an elusive little bugger at the best of times. Mind you, I thought he should be there, in his capacity as the Godfather." Dudley Moore, of course went on to have a good career in the movies, Peter Cook worked in a couple of US television shows, and Jonathan Miller became a doctor and later hosted a PBS series on anatomy called, "The Body in Question." I don't know what happened to the fourth member. Perhaps somebody in the UK remembers more. jeffp |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Roger the skiffler Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:43 AM The fourth member of Beyond the Fringe was playwright, erstwhile history don and proudly Yorkshire Alan Bennett still turning out his quirky bitter-sweet pieces for stage and tv To those of us of a certain age all the BtF sketches were learned off by heart as the Python ones were by a later generation The war needs a futile gesture at this stage, Perkins RtS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: skipjack Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:46 AM I'm probably way wide of the mark, but was the fourth man ..... John Cleese? |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: skipjack Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:46 AM I'm probably way wide of the mark, but was the fourth man ..... John Cleese? |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 07 Jan 00 - 10:08 AM Mike Bentine? It's a Square World? can't be sure, but Beyond The Fringe rang a bell somewhere up above in the sawdust. (like Pooh, I'm a bear of little brain)Yours, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Jan 00 - 11:25 AM And what about the 'skits of Muriel Volestrangler' then? JC in another guise no less, some of which went on to become the great Python sketches we know and quote..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: AndyG Date: 07 Jan 00 - 11:30 AM In a very approximate chronological order:
The Goons 1952 - 60
Beyond the Fringe 1960
I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again1965 - 70, 1973
Twice A Fortnight1967
At Last the 1948 Show1967 -68
Do Not Adjust Your Set1968 - 69
Monty Pythons Flying Circus1969 - 74
The Goodies1970 - 77
About 90% of them came to entertainment via The Cambridge Footlights.
Not Forgetting: The Frost Report, TW3 etc, Not Only But Also etc, Rutland Weekend Television, Ripping arns, Fawlty Towers. AndyG |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: AndyG Date: 07 Jan 00 - 11:33 AM That's:
Not Forgetting: The Frost Report, TW3 etc, Not Only But Also etc, Rutland Weekend Television, Ripping Yarns, Fawlty Towers. AndyG |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 07 Jan 00 - 11:38 AM Andy G, Thanks, that's very helpful. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Tony Burns Date: 07 Jan 00 - 12:34 PM "Will this wind ... be so mighty ... as to lay low the mountains of the euth?" "Of the what?" ... "Never you mind the rationing my dear. You put on the kettle. We'll have a nice cup of boiling hot water."
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Mrs. Non-Gorilla Date: 07 Jan 00 - 01:08 PM Lorne Michaels, producer of Saturday Night Live, credits the concept and the success of the show in large part to Python. If you watch some of the earlier SNL episodes (generally considered the best) you can see kindred elements and the shows seem to work best when the subject matter is the absurd. The later and current manifestation of SNL are sketches a majority of which are satirical in nature, requiring little imagination. Terry Gilliam (the yank- from the frozen tundra of MinNEEsota) is close to genius (Time Bandits, Brazil, The Fisher King, 12 Monkeys, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas) his heart condition and knowledge of sparrow flight velocities not-withstanding. Perhaps he is the best example of an Anglo-American comedic synthesis. I know I must be getting old when I hear myself utter things like "they don't make like they used to." Unfortunately, it's true. Very little of the media tripe that passes as being funny today is nearly as imaginative as Python or early SNL, and quite often it's vulgar and has some sort of violent imagery or underpinning. I'm sure our parents said the same thing about our legacy. Finally, I can't stand all this sex on the telly, I mean I keep falling off! -Br. Gen. Mrs. Non-Gorilla (retired) |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Kernow John Date: 07 Jan 00 - 07:37 PM Sadly I've discovered this thread a bit late on. Although the Goons (Still my all time favourites) were not really vulgar they did slip the odd one past the Lord Rieth type BBC on more than one occasion. The first of course being Hugh Jampton. Regards Baz |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: wildlone Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:42 PM Not to mention That was the Week That Was or TW3 |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: marthabees Date: 08 Jan 00 - 01:38 AM Is it possible to get copies of the Goons here in the US? |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: roopoo Date: 08 Jan 00 - 02:37 AM Just to chuck another from my childhood into the melee, although it wasn't quite as aserbic at times and definitely wasn't topical: Round the Horne. Who can forget "Bona Enterprises"? OK you all did. But what about "Rambling Sid Rumpo", folk singer? mouldy |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Eric the Viking Date: 08 Jan 00 - 12:36 PM Not forgetting "that was the week that was" and the frost report which had John Cleese, Ronny Barker, Ronnie Corbett and of course Pete and Dud, but they were all very good at the time and only some parts, like some wines age well. Pete and Dud went on to record other things......... "The worst job I had was picking crabs out of......." I thought this thread was DEAD!!! Anyway i shall go off and sing the penis song! Bye. Cire. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Peter T. Date: 08 Jan 00 - 12:52 PM All geniuses: "Stop whispering in my ear, Min, you're drying up my socks."
"Will this wind be so mighty as to lay low the mountains of the earth?" |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: momnopp Date: 08 Jan 00 - 02:01 PM Hey, someone found me on ICQ, saw that I like both Star Trek AND Monty Python, and wrote coyly, "So are you busy tomorrow? Want to get married?". So it just shows to go ya that humor can bond almost as solidly as music. . .
"Deceased. Pushing up daisies. It is no more. Gone to it's maker."
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: emily rain Date: 08 Jan 00 - 02:41 PM final jeopardy question from sometime last week (tuesday?), paraphrased: Actor John Cleese is active in the campaign to save this bird from extinction. i bet a billion dollars but i hadn't read this thread, so i lost. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Wotcha Date: 09 Jan 00 - 11:28 AM Well, Stuck in boarding school one didn't see much telly in the 70s but I remember (the now rather racist and Brit-centric) humo[u]r of the revived "I'm sorry I'll read that again" (Python and Goodies combo) and "Hallo Cheeky" (Barry Crier et al). Someone mentioned Peter Cooke (may he rest in peace) and Dudley Moore -- while we are one-upping each other on comedies, maybe we should forget their late 70s comedy (?) routine as Derek and Clive (probably could have killed Dudely Moore's career before "10" and "Arthur" saved him ... God knows why). For pretty accomplished comedians they brought humor to a new low in 1977 ... they should have stuck to "Frog a la peche." Then Spike Milligan's song (getting back to the music slant here) comes back to me: "I used to talk to the trees ... till they put me away ..." Cheers, Brian |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 09 Jan 00 - 12:00 PM momnpop, I too, like both ST, SNG, DS9, B5, Stargate etc, and MP, ISIRTA, TW3, ISIHAC, do you want to make it bigamy??? LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bluesy Date: 09 Jan 00 - 02:47 PM Emily, Did the bird have Beautiful Plumage? |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Little dorritt Date: 09 Jan 00 - 06:01 PM Do not forget the memorable : This heres a Wattle The emblem of our land You can stick it in a bottle Or hold it in your hand
Litle Dorritt (fell off near Ottery St Mary) |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 10 Jan 00 - 11:00 AM Lark's vomit, otter's noses, get 'em while they're 'ot.... I always liked Spring Surprise..... And now I think it will be back to the Mexican Hairless... LTS
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 10 Jan 00 - 11:36 AM Does anyone remember Bert Fegg's Nasty book of Knowledge? It was written by the Pyhton crew in the seventies. I had just changed schools and didn't know a soul at the new one. I was sitting alone in the cafeteria one lunch hour reading it and was laughing so hard that I had tears streaming down my face and I couldn't breathe. I'm sure that several people thought I was certifiable. I lost it (loaned it to someone) and wonder if I would find it as funny now. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: emily rain Date: 10 Jan 00 - 07:20 PM bluesy, that clue was not included in the jeopardy "question", but i'm certain you are correct. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 11 Jan 00 - 10:44 AM So you want to marry the princess? Per'aps |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Drewsmilitia Date: 12 Jan 00 - 12:01 AM B_O_O_K_S, you 'ad books in school,LUXURY |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Lonesome EJ Date: 12 Jan 00 - 01:13 AM Books? You were lucky. All we had to read was a month old copy of the Daily News, and that's only because Mum had knitted the baby's jumper from it. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 12 Jan 00 - 02:13 AM Daily News? month old? bloody luxury, the only werds i could read was Players Navy Cut, from old empty fag packets thrown at me, when me and mum were begging for crusts outside a pub. I used to think my last name was Russian (F@*kOff) for years. jumpers eh! I could only dream of having a jumper. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Wotcha Date: 14 Jan 00 - 08:20 AM Steve (Latimer) ... Bert Fegg is *Dave the Ancient Mariner ...he's just in disguise ... "Bert Fegg's Nasty Book for Boys and Girls" was re-printed in the States but did not sell as well as it did in the UK. I take my hardcopy version with me everywhere in the world. It will come in handy for Pantomine season with the story of Depravo the Rat. As a newly single guy, I find the discussion of Sex Education to be most relevant: "The first thing you need to know about sex is where to buy the chocolates ... take precautions ... buy soft centres as well as hard centres ..." Cheers, yerluvinguncle Brian "Fegg" *not actually convicted, even though the circusmtances were against him ... |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 14 Jan 00 - 09:25 AM Unky Brian they did'nt catch me either, I mean t'were'nt me either, Sorry, AND I GOT MILLIONS OF MUDCATTERS AS WITNESSES...honest....Nefew Dave(the ancient mariner) definately not posing as Bert Fegg who is far more intelligent and better looking... For better sex education please refer, to Admiralty Manual of Seamanship Vol #1 And now for something completely different.
If you ever sail across the sea to Ireland
Now the engineers will try and teach you their way
Now of these men we've given you fair warning |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 14 Jan 00 - 09:45 AM Sorry! the Electrickery demons and computer Gremlins ate the second verse which should be inserted in the above very gently in second place after the first verse.Aye (techno Idiot 1st class) Dave
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 14 Jan 00 - 10:18 AM Dave, The one that will always stay witn me is the children's parlour game, "Pass the Bengal Tiger". Remember it? It's been years since I lost the book. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 14 Jan 00 - 10:51 AM Sorry Steve I don't remember that one, but the Bengal Tiger did shake a bit of rust loose upstairs. Perhaps it'll come to me if they ever invent something to heal dead grey matter from years of abuse; not that I had much to salvage to begin with.Yours, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 14 Jan 00 - 10:57 AM Does anyone remember the Big Red Book, with the page for voyeurs and the page for exhibitionists?? Wish I knew what happened to my copy..... Sigh. LTS |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Steve Latimer Date: 14 Jan 00 - 12:28 PM I remember the big Red Book and the Big Blue Book, alas, they too are gone. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:57 PM |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:25 PM Bloody hell! It's been nailed to the perch since Jan 14 of 2000, and the bleedin' thing is STILL DEAD. I want another parrot and I want it NOW!!! - LH |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Dead Horse Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:23 PM Albatross! Albatross! Albatross! What flavour is it? or Motoring Min. Hold tight, Min. We're doing three miles an hour. Ooooh, buddy. Oh, we've stopped, Henry. Yes Min, the wick in the engine's gone out. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Eric the Viking Date: 14 Nov 01 - 02:18 PM Hang on a minute-min! min? Min is from the goons-do you want a full argument or just half an hour/ |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Raptor Date: 14 Nov 01 - 03:30 PM Well if we built a rather large Badger.....
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Bill D Date: 14 Nov 01 - 11:46 PM ...somehow, when I saw this thread appear, I KNEW John from Hull's name would be at the bottom!.. (how many threads have you read now, John?) |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: GUEST,Jenny the T Date: 15 Nov 01 - 04:36 PM Look--I'm the bloody Pope! And I may not know much about art, but I know what I like! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: GUEST,Firecat at college Date: 16 Nov 01 - 05:56 AM I'm a bit too young to have actually watched the series when it was on, but a few years back Life Of Brian was on TV and they made me watch it! AND I did a not bad impression of Mr. Creosote after watching Meaning Of Life! My favourite Python film is Holy Grail though! NI! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: GUEST,Butch at work Date: 16 Nov 01 - 11:33 AM BUT I DON'T LIKE SPAM! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Lonesome EJ Date: 16 Nov 01 - 12:02 PM "But you're not arguing! You're simply offering an immediate refutation of each point that I make!" "No I'm not!" And who can forget Dennis Moore..."Your lupins or your life!" |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Raptor Date: 16 Nov 01 - 12:12 PM Miss jones is hidding behind one of these three bushes... Raptor |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: The Walrus at work Date: 16 Nov 01 - 12:23 PM Jenny the T, It works mate! The fat one balances the two skinny ones. Tom |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Jim Dixon Date: 16 Nov 01 - 01:12 PM ... and Marcel Proust had an helk. And if you're calling the author of A la Recherche de Temps Perdu a loony, I shall have to ask you to step outside. |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: GUEST,Jenny the T Date: 16 Nov 01 - 03:27 PM Tom: I'll tell you what I want: I want a Last Supper with twelve disciples, one Christ, and no kangaroos by Thursday lunch, or you don't get paid! JtT |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Nov 01 - 04:36 PM Today's lesson: How to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana! - LH |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: John Routledge Date: 16 Nov 01 - 09:37 PM Peter Sellers in the Goons: "Exactly as I thought. I don't know what it is. Also as a bank manager at the end of a robbery of his bank "I'm not staying here! There is more money in the van than there is in the bank." Happy Times John
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: 53 Date: 16 Nov 01 - 09:59 PM jimmy buffet will be so fucking sad. BOB |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 16 Nov 01 - 10:00 PM Bill D-I think I have read most of the old threads now, I could not resist refreshing this one! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Peter Kasin Date: 16 Nov 01 - 10:28 PM What a huge impact Monty Python had on American audiences, notably college students. When I was in college, we sat around the dorm room repeating sketches word for word. A small group of us did the did the lumberjack song in the dining hall and eveyone chimed in on the chorus. When Saturday Night Live had a Python on as a guest, it was an event (and a little disappointing, in that SNL sketches written by SNL writers were a big step down from Python's own comedy), and their live appearances in the U.S. were so popular it took the Pythons by surprise. The first episode hit U.S. television about five years after their original release. A year or two before Python we were getting "Doctor In The House," a good but not brilliant comedy that sort of set the stage for the great comedy to come. -Ken Shabby |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Nov 01 - 10:43 PM Bloody Marvelous!!! John, you can't possibly have read "most of the old threads"...there are thousands of them! - LH |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 16 Nov 01 - 10:51 PM I read fast! |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: fiddlerdan Date: 11 Feb 02 - 07:36 AM I'm looking for the title and/or music to the Monty Python's Flying Circus opening theme music. It sounds like it may be a Souza march. Does anyone out there have an idea of what the name of the piece is, or have music to it? Many thanks, fiddlerdan |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: GUEST Date: 11 Feb 02 - 07:43 AM John Philip Sousa: Liberty Bell March Midi of it is here |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: GUEST,aussiebloke (temporarily cookieless) Date: 11 Feb 02 - 08:01 AM Lonesome EJ Scotland's National Poet was Ewan McTeagal. Who could forget his immortal classic: Oh gie to me a shillin' for some fags... aussiebloke |
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Subject: RE: This parrots dead! From: Jack The Lad Date: 11 Feb 02 - 03:34 PM Dee bump tee diddledee bumptideedee, bumptidee tiddee. I believe that's it, but how does it go on? Jack The Lad |
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