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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 23 Jul 13 - 02:22 PM In fairness I should allow that there are others as bad. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,SJL Date: 23 Jul 13 - 02:22 PM Now, correct me if I'm wrong but her allegations ring true, his do not- at all! Looks like he's been at this game a long time. Posing as a victim when he's really the aggressor. Bogus tales of self-defense have worked for George everytime apparently: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-21/news/os-george-zimmerman-domestic So this woman attacked him with a baseball bat and bit him on the cheek? Sure George, keep 'em coming! Btw, I'd like to give that doggie a treat and a nice little pat on the head. Good dog! Smarter than the six women they had on that jury. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: beardedbruce Date: 23 Jul 13 - 02:34 PM Don, And you have brought up Dr. Goebbels and supporting Muslims, like he did... so my statement about your Nazi tendencies is as valid as your about what I think. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 13 - 02:56 PM Bruce, that has been a tactic for a long time...making asinine protest claims and pretending to be from the 'other side'. It is common in campaigns as well...and then you have the ones who are on the 'left', pretending to be on the 'right'..who are really ON the 'right'! ..AND VICE VERSE!...and think they do the 'nation' or their 'cause' service. The problem is that they CANNOT make statements, or take stands that stand up on their own merit..and so resort to 'trickery'...and the most ironic thing is, after pulling that off, the people who believed their bullshit, don't think that the same people are actually working on behalf of THEIR(the dumbfucks who believed them) true interests..and not shills for the banksters, who have an vested interest in causing all the unrest in the first place!!! Problem is, government laws, or ideological extremes, and radicals, seem to disregard that they CANNOT regulate the minds, hearts, thoughts and motives of the individuals, who they all want to 'control'...they just want control...and ARE LYING ABOUT IT ALL THE WAY!!!...and then want to be TRUSTED!!!! OK..I''m convinced, you got a better way...(rolls eyes)! Whip me..beat me..do a tap dance on my face with high heels..lie to me..make me write bad checks...but love me!! Good fucking grief! You listening wannabe activists???? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Greg F. Date: 23 Jul 13 - 05:05 PM Dodge and weave & weasel as much as you want, BullshitBruce- but you haven't answered or enen tried to address the questions. As per usual. Just more horseshit, piled higher and deeper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 13 - 05:10 PM More nothing..as usual...sign me up, I'm all for nothing..let's call it a political view!..Maybe we can get members by getting people to hate each other...let's vote on it! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 13 - 05:17 PM I find absolutely fascinating the amount of time, energy, and obvious emotional investment that Beardedbruce puts into supporting a racist bias in this highly controversial matter. And the puerile but mindless "me too"-ism of people like GUST from Insanity. It certainly gives you the measure of their minds and character. In the meantime, Bobert and I are a couple of those "So-Called Liberals" who is working for change in the real, 3-D world, not just cutting-and-pasting from racist blogs. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 13 - 05:26 PM Don Firth: " In the meantime, Bobert and I are a couple of those "So-Called Liberals" who is working for change in the real, 3-D world, not just cutting-and-pasting from racist blogs." Oh Good!..I'm impressed....run along now...and work on making things from bad to worse, with your bankster sponsors in control! GfS P.S. Crackpot! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 13 - 05:33 PM Oh, and take Don T and Greggie F with you...maybe they can hold the clothespins...and collect milk money...just don't let them speak, or you'll blow your whole cover! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 13 - 05:42 PM Like I said, "puerile". Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 23 Jul 13 - 07:52 PM Another day has passed... I went to Charlotte to hunt a used refrigerator and take in a good movie, "20 feet from Stardom"... Then come back to the usual... I see that the usual Grand Wizard has posted 2 or 3 hundred more posts??? Pathetic and insane... My buddy, GfinS, posted one too long to read... You know, the usual... BTW, how many of you experts have any martial arts training??? Seems that your spin doesn't jive with the real world... In other words??? Ya'll are guessin' and guessin' badly... Please guess better in the future... Ya'll sound beyond ignorant on real fighting... Now back to the Grand Wizard's back to back to back to back posting as if that will make him correct??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 13 - 07:53 PM Firth: "Like I said, "puerile". "Puerile"?? Of course you would say that..how perfect! Anything to justify sewing seeds of discontent, to satisfy your hormonal level, and not taking the responsibility, for how those seeds grow!..what they do...who it hurts...and to what end? My, how art imitates life! "Puerile"?? How "Puerile" can you be?? Maybe you don't get it, and don't know why...let me help you out, okay? You have this way of justifying irresponsible selfish things you've do/done in your life, and you somehow latch onto whatever 'cause' to parade around in, oblivious to the bullshit you promote, to justify 'other' serious irresponsibilities, without even stopping to consider, what VERY valid reason other people may see, that cause them to think you're full of shit...AND...not only that, you can't seem to fathom why that others can see those traits lasting you a fucking lifetime, and you just keep making excuses, and disregard or consider the priorities of others who WERE responsible...you live on another planet... You live in "Puerile"! "Puerile"?? You hide behind being well read, as if you have a need to impress people by how 'wise' you are......which, by the way, does not even rival that many a father who responsibly and successfully cared and raised their own children, and the 'hands on' affirmation THAT brings, as opposed to 'looking up what some other 'great' mind had to say..about something else...instead of hands on, ...To your closest... and using it!...And, as I told you before, I'm very skeptical of people who have never done the very above, trying to 'organize' political control, over people who KNOW what it is to take care of 'first things first'...for themselves AND the community at large. They know what the NEED. "Puerile"?? Some people grow up, and mature, past grabbing every opportunity for instant gratification, you know, like a child.... accomplishing a way to seem important, by throwing tantrums, and pretending to not respond, in a positive way, to common sense, while sewing hatred, unforgiveness, or any permissive bullshit, as a motive to hide your 'light weightiness'. Man, like you've peddled this lie to yourself, for so long, you've lost control over it..and can't distinguish between your political charade, and common sense!!! "Puerile"?? You cannot separate 'legal', 'emotional', 'exploitation', street theater, and common sense, can you? Here, I'll repeat it: "Anything to justify sewing seeds of discontent, to satisfy your hormonal level, and not taking the responsibility, for how they grow!..what they do...who it hurts...and to what end? My, how art imitates life!" Certain masses of people just don't trust those people, nor their agenda, who have that track record...and still justifies it, especially when they see their tactics. That wasn't so hard was it? You know what else you got fucked up along the way? You can't tell who your friends are...those who you try to impress, don't care. ...and this is the short version. Give my regards to the crickets and frogs. Or send in the hand puppet. Others...you're out of you depth. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 13 - 08:26 PM Don't know the meaning of the word, eh, Goofball? That IS puerile! Try looking it up in a dictionary. You know. A dictionary is that thick book that tells you what words mean. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 13 - 08:36 PM Sure I do..I was describing your mindset, that has guiding you through life...with complete disregard for anyone but you. I thought it was perfect!!...and what's even more proof of it, is, you don't fucking get it! 'Lesser' minds can...and do.......what happened? the chrome fell off? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 13 - 08:44 PM That's your fiction, Goofball. You're just pissed because I know your dirty little secret. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 23 Jul 13 - 08:47 PM Brevity, GfinS... You have become a real rambler... Reminds me of old folks who can go on and on about nothin' for hours at a time... Geriatric issues??? Your 8:36 post was an improvement... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 13 - 09:06 PM That, plus the fact that he's in the closet, even to himself. That's really got him messed up mentally. Him, a family counselor? What a joke!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 23 Jul 13 - 09:21 PM Guess I missed the "closet thing"... Come on out, dude... I don't give a rat's ass about that stuff... Heck, I grew up next door to "Jim and Gene"... You ain't got nuthin' on them... Okay, maybe you got somethin' on Jim... He was a drunk... He'd walk over to my parents house a little past 7 two or three nights a week, get drunk and then try to make it 100 feet next door to his house... This 100 foot walk was always an adventure... There were a couple trees that he'd have to negotiate and it was dark and Jim was drunk... "Ruthie!!! The bats are getting me!!! Ruthie" he'd scream and then my mom (Ruthie) would go out and get him out of the tree limbs and safe home where the bats wouldn't get him.... Never mind... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 13 - 10:59 PM Looks like I hit a nerve again, and you're up to your usual tactics. Just as I said...making up new excuses, while trying to justify your bullshit agenda. Oh, and Bobert, there is no 'dirty little secret'. he's referring to a post, not sent by me, about saying my dad was a homosexual, which is patently untrue. he had six kids, and died loyal to his wife, my mother, at age 60, due to a stroke. Now Don, can you justify YOUR trip without sewing more seeds of discontent??...or have a 'political' idea, that doesn't rely on and depends on inspiring hate and discontent, Whether it be one on one, or to exhuming racial civil rights nostalgia...and easy old hat trick? NOOOOO! Well try it. It's your unexplored, new frontier. ..and how dare either one of you, of accusing ANYONE on here, of being of KKK mentality!!...What a couple of jerk-offs! Come on, Bobert, you're bigger than that....and WE don't live in the South!..If you're so concerned, fix it down there..and if you can't find anyone to fix (except 'in general'), I'm sure they'd appreciate to hear of your observations of them!...That ought to do it, huh??? ....and don't be surprised if your 'base' is just getting tired of hearing about it, and having to 'care' about it, after having their noses rubbed in it, 24/7. I don't think ANY Mudcatters have a prejudice against blacks, or against having it decided in a court of law...and all this ballyhoo, is over YOUR guys fucking up the case, in the first place, just wanting to stir up the racial issue. Up to a point, I thought you may have been smarter than to fall for that, or those political manipulations. Why should anybody take stock in that kind of simple-mindedness. You've been listening for far too long to dickhead, over there. You want to make a difference??..go to the people who need help..you don't want to??.. then shut up about it on here, and accusing others of being the people you're too chicken to confront! Hey, I'm on your side..quit embarrassing yourself! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 13 - 11:19 PM The message came from YOUR computer, Goofball. Your IP number is like caller ID on a telephone, and one of the Mudelves identified it. That's why you're scared spitless of your own genes and refuse to acknowledge scientific evidence regarding the genetic origins of sexual orientation. All of which, including your lie about me, has nothing to do with the subject of this thread. YOU introduced it, Goofball, so (tsk) don't be such a little bitch. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:50 AM First of all: I'm not scared at all of another one of you attempted blackmails..especially, when all you got is nothing! Oh, and by the way, you're an asshole! Second: that has been gone over a bazillion times, and you only bring it up when your back is to the wall...and that post was not sent by me. Thirdly: It's not genetic..and even the 'studies' you introduced, only make a passing remark that there are three 'markers'...but not enough to define it..AND they all allude to what I was saying about the hormonal changes during gestation.(Receptors transmit those changes)..not that you care, or can absorb it... Fourthly: We've been over this shit too many times, and you still can't get it through your thick skull, with all the evidence against your position! Fifth: You want to blather about it, take it to another thread! Sixth: I am pointing out to you, that you and your ilk feed off of other people's negative biases, and reinforce them, even when they are NOT there, and sycophant that negative energy, to make you appear relevant..(Fuckhead!) Seventh:..This thread is about Zimmerman's trial, and how you psychic vampires insist that the whole thing was racially motivated, and some sort of 'revenge' needs to be extracted, because whites owe it to the blacks, or some crazy shit like that, when, the FBI interview 36 of Zimmerman's acquaintances, and found no trace of bigotry, but you and Bobert's magic crystal ball insists that it was; Trayvon Martin's mother, said it she didn't believe it was racially motivated, but once again, the biases IN YOU and Bobert, just can't believe it; Trayvon was the only one HEARD to make a racial slur; but your guy's ASSumptions know better, of course; Rachel told Trayvon that she thought Zimmerman was a homosexual rapist, which certainly was said so Trayvon would be more 'friendly'..right before Trayvon confronted him...but to you idiots, it was solely about race.....and there is NO,...got that?..NO evidence to support that assumption!..Just shit in your own heads. Eighth, You guys accuse others here in Mudcat of being KKK, or White Supremacist sympathizers..well OKAY..let's find out... Will all the Mudcatters who sympathize with the KKK OR White Supremacy please weigh in....I know they are proud of their position, so step forward sign in and tell us that you agree with those groups. Ninth, how come you mentioned only you and Bobert?..I noticed that you didn't include Greg F, or Don T...what's the matter?...are they too stupid for you???..or just beyond your total control?? Tenth, If you want to create good racial relations, just go out and do it. Less people on here, are buying into your crap of promoting, and agitating negative feelings and racial biases, and trying to create them, where there isn't any..just so you can try to manipulate them...and look 'important', 'wise', and 'all knowing' about all things 'political'..and what YOU see that MUST be adhered to by all....when you never raised your own family, just knocked the chick up an booked it, to enhance your own career, and still can't understand why people who have raised their families aren't buying into your crap...oh, have we said that before?? What the fuck do you know about the priorities of ANY of it??? NOTHING!!! Now go get some followers and make yourself feel better, but pardon me if I think you're an impotent fraud. Thank you! Have a nice evening... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Richard Bridge Date: 24 Jul 13 - 04:01 AM Wow, FFS! That's a load of rubbish, but the way you laid it out makes you look almost literate. Keep practising. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 24 Jul 13 - 04:50 AM ""You listening wannabe activists????"" Could you manage a translation Goofus, for those of us whose first language is English. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 24 Jul 13 - 10:28 AM Sure Don...it is a question. Try asking the question 'ARE you listening wannabe activists?'... Now drop the ARE, and ask the question again "___ you listening wannabe activists?" I'm glad you didn't have any questions about the rest of the texts, assuming you read them..take them in, you might learn something about how political parties, along with the media, can make up shit to exploit, when there was no issue at all, then exploit the emotions, from the expected re-actions. When they don't get those re-actions, they keep pounding it, ad nauseum, and then put forth then 'put forth' their agendas, and pretend it is a 'solution'..........to a problem that never existed in the first place! These two have been doing it for some time, steering the dialogues, and usually, right off course! They have exacerbated the racial tension bit, and distorted it, as what part it played into this trial. The media, who has been playing it up, have been whipping up the emotions of BOTH sides, creating a hostile environment...not for 'justice', but for civil unrest. The racial bit, is just a ruse. Now, you may or not believe that, BUT you should consider it, and THINK. THINK for yourself, and filter out the propaganda tactics. You are an individual, not owned or controlled by any political party, whose method of operation consists of lying through their teeth, at every turn!..then making up new lies to cover themselves, when they get busted for it...and it takes people who are independent THINKERS, who don't go along with their mind control herding of 'sheeple', as in a flock of sheep, that they can steer from bullshit to bullshit. Our country, and the world is fucked up due to liars, covering the lies of politicians who are bought and paid for, and NOT representing the people or serving them..or even upholding the basic laws on which the whole structure was based. They have corrupted it with their bullshit agendas, which are only doorways to the next 'set-up'. Do you have racial bias??..I don't...and I resent being accused of it, by a couple of wannabe political bullies, whose track records consist of VERY faulty, and questionable tactics, reliability and motives.....and they suck people into it, with their lying, jive-ass accusations, and skirting of real questions posed to them!...AND..their abuse of those who post posts, such as Bruce, Akenaton and others, whose FACTUAL posts fly in the face of their absolutely unbelievable horse-crap! Then they proceed to smear their characters, when the can't post any FACTS, and only have their unsupported 'opinions' to fall back on. Now you and I have had exchanges before, and I'm answering you now, because you asked. Do both of us a favor, mostly of benefit to you, to just go over this post, THINK about what I've laid down, see if it matches the truth. All I'm asking for, is for Mudcatters to THINK about stuff before they fire off more hostility. They are NOT answerable to neither the Republican or Democrat parties of disgraceful corruption. Something clean may emerge! Ok...I was cool to you, just slow down, take the time...you'll see. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jul 13 - 12:56 PM Proverbs 10:18, "He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool." Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:28 PM ""Sure Don...it is a question. Try asking the question 'ARE you listening wannabe activists?'... Now drop the ARE, and ask the question again "___ you listening wannabe activists?"" You sad pillock, that line was a clue to which of your diatribes in fluent gibberish I was referring. That last line was the only moderately comprehensible part of the whole, so how about translating the rest into the closest you can manage to coherent text, in English if possible? Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:42 PM And since you are trying this entirely new technique of decent manners, I'll respond in kind. I would be most interested to see your take on all the evidence that the jury was prevented from seeing, to ensure Zimmerman's acquittal. The jury HAD no choice, on the slanted evidence presented. Why is this judge's obvious bias simply accepted? Why is there no attempt to bring the prosecution before a jury on a charge of collusion in that bias? And why, in a civilised society is there no provision to waive "double jeopardy" in the event of a pre-fixed result? In the modern context with its advancing technologies, double jeopardy would prevent any cold case which had gone to trial and failed, being reopened when conclusive new evidence points to injustice. That is, I believe, why it has been revoked in the UK, where DNA advances have resulted in a large number of serious criminals (murderers, rapists etc) now deservedly languishing in jail for a very long time. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:44 PM "Proverbs 10:18, "He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool." " So perhaps Bobert, GregF, and DonT need to pay attention to this, and cease their slanders and lies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:50 PM Don T "In the modern context with its advancing technologies, double jeopardy would prevent any cold case which had gone to trial and failed, being reopened when conclusive new evidence points to injustice." I believe that in the US, NEW evidence is a valid reason for a retrial. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:50 PM Don T, I am surprised you are unable to understand some posts. They are quite clear to me and, apparently, everyone else. It is just you. (unless you are just unable to challenge about anything actually said) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:55 PM "On the other hand, a retrial may be treated like a brand new trial, as new evidence may be presented. Indeed, sometimes the reason a retrial is necessary is that there is new evidence that was not available before. Also, sometimes new lawyers will be working on the retrial. A new jury will be selected and oftentimes a new judge will be presiding over case. Therefore, a retrial will always be much different from the original trial. " http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/criminal-retrial-lawyers.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Lighter Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:56 PM Nor did the judge admit phone and text evidence that showed Martin had tried to sell an illegal firearm, school evidence that he was once suspended for having unexplained women's gold jewelry in his bookbag, or that he'd texted a friend that a recent fight had been no fun because "the dude didn't bleed enough for me." How would that information have affected a jury? None of these statements were directly relevant to the shooting. The judge ruled without bias. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Jul 13 - 01:59 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Jul 13 - 02:07 PM The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof lies with who declares, not who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent until proven guilty. Application of this principle is a legal right of the accused in a criminal trial, recognised in many nations. The burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which has to collect and present enough compelling evidence to convince the trier of fact, who is restrained and ordered by law to consider only actual evidence and testimony that is legally admissible, and in most cases lawfully obtained, that the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If reasonable doubt remains, the accused is to be acquitted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 24 Jul 13 - 02:22 PM So, now you are resorting to Scriptures??.....let these apply to what you guys are doing, and why your whole rap is in question...: "16There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 (1)Haughty eyes, (2)a lying tongue, (3)And hands that shed innocent blood, 18A(4) heart that devises wicked plans, (5) Feet that run rapidly to evil, 19(6)A false witness who utters lies, (7..and get this one..the 7th, which you just read is an abomination to Him!)And one who spreads strife among brothers....." And continuing toward the bottom.... "32The one who commits adultery with a woman is lacking sense; He who would destroy himself does it. 33Wounds and disgrace he will find, And his reproach will not be blotted out." Now in context, without my 'numbering'... 16There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: "17Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, 18A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil, 19A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers." 32The one who commits adultery with a woman is lacking sense; He who would destroy himself does it. 33Wounds and disgrace he will find, And his reproach will not be blotted out." Wise words, Sane words...Words that have seen civilizations rise and fall, for lack of using that wisdom. Oh, and the Scripture that you posted, just a hopeful innuendo, a cloaked accusation....that doesn't apply at this at this end. I have no 'hatred', nor am I saying anything less that the truth, that you seem to have a problem with.... The Scripture you posted, may indeed, apply to you. ............................. Thanks, Keith A of Hertford. It's nice to know that what is communicated is clear enough, that the tactics employed by liars, are just more tactics...and not a sign, with any intention, of cleaning up their act! Don T...This has been a clear invitation to THINK!... not just to wallow around in the swill of 'talking points'. ..unless you still insist on pretending you are unable to 'understand'. Firth thrives on that kind of stupidity!..he uses it all the time! Bruce, Glad to see you picked up on the correct application of that Scripture, as well....Firth tends to accuse others of his own bullshit!....and people are getting tired of it! Regards... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jul 13 - 02:57 PM Antonio in "The Merchant of Venice:") Mark you this, Bassanio,It does not surprise me that Goofball tries to throw the Bible back at me, considering that he started this slanderous exchange with a lie. He knows nothing about me, yet he continues to lie. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Richard Bridge Date: 24 Jul 13 - 03:07 PM Oh shit FFS. I thought you were starting to learn. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 24 Jul 13 - 03:58 PM That's bullshit, Don, and you know it. As far as your 'history' with the chick..you posted the story about it....unless that was a lie, too, which I doubt..you just don't like being called on it..and by a 'higher' source than me, I might add!...and now you are quoting Shakespeare????...another diversion??..Why don't you just do some soul searching(if you have one left), and get your shit together. Maybe even quit trying to drive fraudulent agendas, and stringing out your dupes with ya'! Oh, and as far as the Scripture I quoted you, 'If the shoe fits, wear it!'....problem is, you won't be able to tap dance! You're getting nowhere fast!...or, as my dad used to say, "Going somewhere?..or just traveling?" Richard, you and Greg F should get married, you'd have the same dialogue over the kitchen table...for years! OH...and by the way, nobody has yet to show up and claim their sympathetic stand to the KKK or the White Supremacists.....you mean you guys were preaching to an empty choir loft???? ....or maybe nobody is buying your baloney?...one or the other. Get a clue! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jul 13 - 04:25 PM Goofball, as I've said repeatedly, you interpret MY behavior in terms of what YOU would do under similar circumstances. That's an indication of the nature of YOUR character, but it has nothing to do with MINE. You have no concept of ethical behavior--or matters of self-sacrifice for the greater good. Go pee on a fire hydrant. That's about all those of your species are good for. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 24 Jul 13 - 04:58 PM That ain't all this complicated here... Grown man with a gun stalks boy... Grown man with a gun murders boy... Anywhere else this would be an open and shut case with grown man being locked up for 20 years to life... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 24 Jul 13 - 05:19 PM Let's skip the premise for new excuses, and cut to the bottom line: Zimmerman went to trial and was acquitted, which, by review of the evidence brought forward in that trial, by the jury, and review of the case by legal scholars, was the correct verdict. The issue of race was verified, NOT a factor. The race issue has been stirred up by the media, and carried forth by those of little or no LEGAL understanding, and has been blown out of proportion, by those who manipulate the emotions, of those same people, with little or no knowledge of the law. I pointed this out during the end of the trial, right after I heard John Guy's(prosecution) final closing arguments. After the acquittal, there has been talk of the DoJ bringing another trial, on civil rights charges, if they thought there was cause, based on race. However, the FBI thoroughly investigated Zimmerman's past, and acquaintances, and found NO indication, or evidence to base the Federal government to bring charges. The media and political 'activists' have tried to keep the race factor up in everyone's face, still accusing, projecting, manipulating and exploiting the emotions, that they are trying to prolong, even making stuff up. I doubt, that on LEGAL grounds, that the DoJ, will charge him, but if they do, you can expect the same verdict. Get over it...as the evidence showed, it was a case of self defense. I may add, one more time, that there were circumstances that led up to it, that in reality, were stupid miscalculations on both of their parts, and a death could have been avoided...as to who was more at fault, maybe we'll never know...but there were mutual mistakes made on both, on their parts. Anybody who tries to stir up emotions, based on race, in this matter, should be consummately ignored!~...because, it has been proven to be bullshit!...By the FBI, Travon's mother, eyewitnesses to self defense, and phone transcripts. You don't like it?..Tough beans. The 'Stand Your Ground' law, had nothing to do with the case, race had nothing to do with the case, and the 'pundit activists', Jackson, Sharpton, and all the 'little wannabes have even less to do with the case. Have a Wonderful Day! GfS P.S. Don you want to 'duke it out' take it to another thread. You've been blown out of the water on this one! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 24 Jul 13 - 05:23 PM KKK injustice... O.J. beat the rap on bro-injustice... Both wrong... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jul 13 - 05:27 PM "You've been blown out of the water on this one!" I don't think so, Goofball. When others here read your screeds, they can make their own judgments. End of communication with sub-species. Now, back to the specified wrangle. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 24 Jul 13 - 06:38 PM Perfect! GfS P.S... and........................... "Puerile" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jul 13 - 07:03 PM (Can't even think up his own insults. Pathetic!!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Jul 13 - 08:14 AM "(Can't even think up his own insults. Pathetic!!)" Oh, WE ALL know better, but this thread is about the Zimmerman trial. There IS an 'insult thread'...take it there. You'd love me to get into your diversions of 'insults', because when you have nothing of substance, you attack the person, instead of addressing the issues, distracting people from the subject matter, and into YOUR personal world. Not interested. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 25 Jul 13 - 08:43 AM For the record, when I accuse Zimmerman apologist/worshiper/defenders of being the modern day KKK is not meant to be an insult... It's the way I see it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: beardedbruce Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:15 AM For the record, when I accuse Bobert of being a bigoted Ubermensch who would take the law into his own hands to get the results he wants ( Just like the KKK) , that is not meant to be an insult... It's the way I see it, based on his own postings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:28 AM ""Proverbs 10:18, "He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool." " So perhaps Bobert, GregF, and DonT need to pay attention to this, and cease their slanders and lies."" No hidden hatred here Bruce. I don't like you, but you are not important enough to hate you. What I do hate, and make no attempt to hide the fact, is the kind of corrupt, racist distortion of justice which is rife in certain parts of this world including parts of the US. And I have neither liking nor respect for those who promote and applaud the indefensible discrimination of a system of law as untrustworthy as the criminals it sets free. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:35 AM ""Don T, I am surprised you are unable to understand some posts. They are quite clear to me and, apparently, everyone else. It is just you. (unless you are just unable to challenge about anything actually said)"" If you can make any sense out of Goofus' disjointed, rambling outpourings of gibberish on a host of subjects he knows nothing about, what does that say about your level of cognitive ability. I've always thought that your xenophobia doesn't interfere with your ability to form cogent and intelligible posts. Don T. |
