BS: the demise of the boring thread

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 02:32 PM

Given Ed's posting of the word 'radical'....the difference between 'so-called liberals' and liberals, is that 'so-called liberals' are radically short-sighted and hypocritical..whereas a 'regular liberal' is sincere...even when he is sincerely wrong!

How's that Ake?....'original' enough for ya'?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 02:04 PM

I checked on what the word radical means to some young folks in the USA:

Radical:two definitions from the Urban Dictionary:

1) A radical is a person subscribing to a political ideology supporting massive, unmeasured, and rapid change. Radicalism is contrasted with conservatism that advocate minimum change, reactionary action advocating counter-change, as well as progressivismA radical would want to chang, for example, a feudal system into a completely capitalist system, or a completely capitalist system into a communist one. Another exaple of radicalism would be a person who wanted to change an Islamic Theocracy into an Atheist state.

2)A word used by people over the age of 30 in an attempt to sound cool, usually resulting in the opposite.
Useage:
Jim: (to friend) Hey check it out I got a new snowboard. 

Jim's mom: (overhearing conversation) Yeah its totally radical. 

Jim: OK you can go away now.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 02:03 PM

Yeah....agree with Akenaton.
THESE IS a difference between liberals, and 'so-called liberals'!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 01:40 PM

"I think you are on a winner here, Musket. Ake says you are liberal."


Sorry, you're not often right, but wrong again Dave. :0)

What I actually term Mr Mather as, is "liberal", which as most people know is the antithesis of real tolerant liberalism.

People like Mr Mcgrath or Stringsinger, could be safely called liberals.
I am radical, but tolerate most people.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 01:24 PM

Dave the Gnome: "You have no idea what is in my head. I have no idea what you believe is in my head and I expect that no one at all has the slightest inkling what is in yours. You just do not make sense."

Not only do I have 'no idea' what is in your head, it is becoming obvious that you don't either!
You posted the conclusion of the study posted by Ed T, as proof that you agreed with it...but did NOT post the rest of the very paragraph of that study, which stated that homosexuals CAN change their 'orientation'...and then say that the link was from a Conservative religious outfit....and it WAS NOT at all.
So take some time and get your shit together....you might even flash that the orientation of a 6-14 year old boy, during his 'experimentation period' MAY just NOT be the same as he is when he is 32!.....but if your ideology serves you right, he CAN'T change his mind...even if it is a normal stage of growing up!!!
Imagine being stuck with the shit you thought was 'so hip' when you were 10!....
..just ask Musket, he still barks like a dog, but doesn't see himself as a son of a bitch.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 11:56 AM

You're the one who says he believes in magic, not me....

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 11:53 AM

It's obvious that Musket has run out of tricks.

Think he was 'born that way' or has he ingested some toxic propaganda?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 11:46 AM

You forgot the bit about my dear friend Bridge calling me a dirty rotten stinking capitalist whist the worm calls me a bleeding heart socialist...

I'm Musket, if anyone asks. And if they do ask, question their motives.



Keith. Try to avoid threads where people lighten up the debate, you only get confused and make yourself look foolish.

Goofus. Keep bang....   oh, hang on, I think the good professor wants to articulate it in a more meaningful way.

Ready boy? "Woof!" Ok, you tell old Goofus!

Woof Woof!! Grrrr Woof!

I can't say I agree with every last word of that boy, because there are some things about him that aren't really too nice, but I suspect he will learn from your appraisal.   No, you can't charge him trick cyclist rates, he can give you a gravy bone.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 11:39 AM

Dave: "I did read it, GfS and have read it again. It is a conclusion drawn by a site that is very biased toward religious fundamentalism."

FALSE!!

It was a link provided by ED, that presented both sides of the 'debate', very fairly...and was done by the latest studies refuting arguments from both sides!!!

More to the point...WHY do you support an ideology which dictates that humans do NOT have the right to fuck who they want!!???...AND would deny counseling or therapy to those who want that FREEDOM?????????????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 10:54 AM

I did read it, GfS and have read it again. It is a conclusion drawn by a site that is very biased toward religious fundamentalism. Not one that has any credence at all with me. The final statement suggests that there are policies for and about the 'treatment of homosexuals'. Which I find quite alarming.

You have no idea what is in my head. I have no idea what you believe is in my head and I expect that no one at all has the slightest inkling what is in yours. You just do not make sense.

No answers to the three questions I posed yet? They only require a simple yes or no.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guestr from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 10:49 AM

The last post got messed up...
.......................................................................
Dave the Gnome: "GfS - As I said, I am quite happy to accept that you do not believe homosexuality can be cured. As to

"HOWEVER, YOU posted that, and didn't even read what you posted...so I don't think your observations are too reliable, either!"

Well, this is why people, including me, cannot take you seriously. Apart from the fact it is impossible not to read what you actually posting, your conclusion that my observations are not reliable then moves on to

"if you seriously consider my observation!!! Because you don't!"

Sorry, but that does not even make sense to me. I am more than happy to take anyone seriously if I can understand what they are saying. I realise that it is my fault that I cannot understand what the hell you are on about but maybe if you would give us your arguments in plain English, without the embellishments and with some sort of structure, then we may be able to consider your views."

Here is what I said: "Well Dave, that just shows how unenlightened you are....I have never made that claim..but your cohorts have. That's what you get for listening to political airheads...you start to believe their crap, they use to bolster their looney bullshit.........HOWEVER, YOU posted >THAT<, and didn't even read what you posted...so I don't think your observations are too reliable, either!...nor your ability to research a given topic that you are so adamant about.....in other words, you don't know what you're talking about........so....I'll accept your apology, if you seriously consider my observation!!!
Because you don't!"

>THAT<:

OK, Let's try this again, Speedy....regarding YOUR POST:

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Apr 14 - 11:18 PM

Dave, in your post you cut and pasted the 'Conclusion'...but seem to FAIL at reading the WHOLE thing you posted...so I'll put it up for you...READ IT!! You posted it!!!:

""....We now know that it is not scientifically accurate to refer to a "gay gene" as the causative agent in homosexuality. The available evidence clearly establishes that no such gene has been identified. Additionally, evidence exists which documents that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation. Future decisions regarding policies about, and/or treatment of, homosexuals should reflect this knowledge.""

Got it?..Get it?...Good!"

So, you ask, 'cured'?....are you saying it is a disease?

The rest is all in YOUR head.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 10:35 AM

GfS - As I said, I am quite happy to accept that you do not believe homosexuality can be cured. As to

Dave the Gnome: "HOWEVER, YOU posted that, and didn't even read what you posted...so I don't think your observations are too reliable, either!

Well, this is why people, including me, cannot take you seriously. Apart from the fact it is impossible not to read what you actually posting, your conclusion that my observations are not reliable then moves on to

if you seriously consider my observation!!! Because you don't!

Sorry, but that does not even make sense to me. I am more than happy to take anyone seriously if I can understand what they are saying. I realise that it is my fault that I cannot understand what the hell you are on about but maybe if you would give us your arguments in plain English, without the embellishments and with some sort of structure, then we may be able to consider your views."

OK, Let's try this again, Speedy....regarding YOUR POST:

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Apr 14 - 11:18 PM

Dave, in your post you cut and pasted the 'Conclusion'...but seem to FAIL at reading the WHOLE thing you posted...so I'll put it up for you...READ IT!! You posted it!!!:

""....We now know that it is not scientifically accurate to refer to a "gay gene" as the causative agent in homosexuality. The available evidence clearly establishes that no such gene has been identified. Additionally, evidence exists which documents that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation. Future decisions regarding policies about, and/or treatment of, homosexuals should reflect this knowledge.""

Got it?..Get it?...Good!"

So, you ask, 'cured'?....are you saying it is a disease?

The rest is all in YOUR head.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 08:02 AM

their looney bullshit

Posted by Goofus, without, hilariously, a trace of irony.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 07:47 AM

I think you are on a winner here, Musket. Ake says you are liberal. Keith says you are Stalinist. GfS says you are a political airhead. Or is that me? I forget these things. Anyway. You have achieved the impossible. An Airheaded, liberal Stalinist. Well done!

BTW - I think Brian found your comment funny. I guess he has never been likened to Queen's lead guitarist before :-P Good job he isn't called Freddie Mercury. Everyone know he was a homosexual.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 07:06 AM

Musket,
The OP was about Brian May's opinion of Tony Blair's speech

Correct, so why resort at once to ridicule and vilification instead of discussing the speech?

Why say,
"Nobody started a thread on Islamism Keith. Someone started a thread saying Mudlms this Muslims that."

And,
" since when was it possible to answer stupidity and irrationality with counter argument ?"

The pack will not allow us to discuss certain subjects.
The pack decrees that any such thread will become another thread attacking faith, and above all Christians.

The dear old Mudcat is allowing itself to be made boring by tolerating intolerance.
The lovely, liberal and tolerant Mudcat has become a host for Stalinism.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 06:31 AM

No.. The OP was about Brian May's opinion of Tony Blair's speech.

Do learn to read. Not everybody is stupid enough to take your crap at face value. Stop insulting their intelligence.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 06:10 AM

Mad world 

It depends which band you are playing with gfs:)

Hopefully, not the one above.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 06:07 AM

""You're a bigot Mike""
Will you stop this Keith
You are deliberately attempting to provoke an argument here by using a thread that you are not involved in
You are a bloody disgrace to this forum and it's about time something was done to stop your nasty gallop.
You want to take part in that discussion - feel free.
Do not carry out of comments from thread to thread when prople are not involved in - this is no less than a dirty-tricks campaign to provoke argument
Stop it now - haw dare you behave like this?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 04:24 AM

The thread and OP were about a speech by the UN Middle East Envoy, which said that radical Islamism was such a threat that the West should co-operate with Russia and China on it despite differences.

A taboo subject for the pack so we get,
"Xtian fundagelical right-wing loonies and megalomaniacs are on the march in the UK."

"You're a bigot Mike"

"Also note the Anglican Church in Uganda supporting death sentence for being gay.
Voltaire yet again. Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
There are over 65 million people in The UK. Less than a million go to church , yet our Prime Minister wants to piss off non Christians even more. Rational people can and will ignore the cynical political posturing but other people with a different imaginary friend will feel isolated and threatened.
Well done Cameron. You and your tambourine rattling idiots show the ugly side of religion, regardless of flavour. Make no mistake, Bliar's intervention was planned to pounce on Cameron's Jesus kick. Party politics are nothing when it comes to trying to drag us back to a superstitious dark age.
Fuck 'em. All of 'em."

Anyone spot the drift?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 04:22 AM

Wasn't there?

So the bit about "not all Muslims"? The taunting end of the thread inviting liberals to do their worst?

An ex soldier was convicted of rape and murder last week. Of course, I'm not saying all ex soldiers are capable of rape and murder. The vast majority etc etc.

Not nice is it? The slur, the unnecessary comparison. The vast majority of Christians don't murder doctors and nurses outside termination of pregnancy clinics for that matter.

If you think an opportunity to drag the word Muslim into a debate about radical Islamic hate is interesting debate, it says a lot about you. Most of which is evident by your posting history. They are no more Muslim than a paedophile with a cross and chain is a Christian. The Islamic fundamentalists debase a religion, not promote it.

When you are quite finished having a pop at people who see through religion, you might take note that it is those promoting it wrongly you need to tackle, not those who smile indulgently and ask how your imaginary friend is getting on.

Go and polish your fucking medals.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 04:09 AM

since when was it possible to answer stupidity and irrationality with counter argument ?

You make my point.
There was none of that in that OP.
You could have explained why you think militant Islamism is not a threat to peace and stability, but discussion is NOT what the pack wants.
Greg and Jim also put down their markers in the very first posts.
People with views know what they would be in for if they dared post.

So what would have once been an interesting debate is strangled at birth.
Mudcat is allowing itself to be destroyed by tolerating intolerance.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 03:36 AM

Sorry - "anything apart from" should be "everything apart from". Mea Culpa.

D.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 03:34 AM

GfS - As I said, I am quite happy to accept that you do not believe homosexuality can be cured. As to

HOWEVER, YOU posted that, and didn't even read what you posted...so I don't think your observations are too reliable, either!

Well, this is why people, including me, cannot take you seriously. Apart from the fact it is impossible not to read what you actually posting, your conclusion that my observations are not reliable then moves on to

if you seriously consider my observation!!! Because you don't!

Sorry, but that does not even make sense to me. I am more than happy to take anyone seriously if I can understand what they are saying. I realise that it is my fault that I cannot understand what the hell you are on about but maybe if you would give us your arguments in plain English, without the embellishments and with some sort of structure, then we may be able to consider your views. Tell you what, to save any confusion, how about answering some simple questions.

Do you believe homosexuality is a natural condition?
Do you believe that homosexuals should be afforded the same rights as heterosexuals?
Do you think that homosexuals are the same as you in anything apart from their sexuality?

If the answer is yes to all then I don't understand what your argument is. If it is no to any then please explain why.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 03:07 AM

Well Dave, that just shows how unenlightened you are....I have never made that claim..but your cohorts have. That's what you get for listening to political airheads...you start to believe their crap, they use to bolster their looney bullshit.........HOWEVER, YOU posted that, and didn't even read what you posted...so I don't think your observations are too reliable, either!...nor your ability to research a given topic that you are so adamant about.....in other words, you don't know what you're talking about........so....I'll accept your apology, if you seriously consider my observation!!!
Because you don't!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 02:58 AM

Ed T: "Gfs,right on...But, from an objective perspective, a neutral observer would likely see this occuringon either side of a hotly debated mudcat issue....."

Objective??.....I'm not with the party...I'm with the band.

How much more objective can you get??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 02:51 AM

"And now Jim is in there shouting "bigot.""
Leave it out Keith
I've acknowledged my thoughtless performance on this forum and have apologised for it.
You have refused to acknowledge your. are pretending it never happened and now appear to be attempting to start it all over again.
If you don't have the decency to apologise for your appalling behaviour and the nouse to recognise that mess that we've made with our pointless arguments, at least have the decency and respect for others not to try to prod them back into life again.
Sniping at arguments from other threads seems to be one of your more unpleasant traits.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 02:51 AM

A 'cure'???....Hmm..elaborate.

Happy to oblige. I believe that you said at some point that homosexuality can be cured. If you did not, I apologise. If you did, that is what I was referring to. It cannot be cured because it is not an illness.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 01:59 AM

Figures!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 01:17 AM

Ridicule and vilification. Yep, that'll be me then.

Out if interest, since when was it possible to answer stupidity and irrationality with counter argument ? I'd have thought ridicule and vilification is about the most appropriate response there is. After sniggering and ignoring you, you pompous .... Hang on, wrong thread.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 07:58 PM

DtG: "You mean the real truth like a cure for homosexuality?"

A 'cure'???....Hmm..elaborate.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ed T
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:02 PM

Since this is Mudcat, and if relates to a recent topic, I felt compelled to post an insightful article by USA southern politician Dave "Mudcat" Saunders. It it titled Opposition to gay marriage falls away (even in Dixie). 
Here it is:

Dave Mudcat Saunders and changes in Dixie 

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:47 PM

Musket, you did not challenge anything he said.
I doubt that you could, so instead you resort to ridicule and vilification.
That is what is spoiling this once fun forum.
People like you.

And now Jim is in there shouting "bigot."

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:29 PM

Nobody started a thread on Islamism Keith. Someone started a thread saying Mudlms this Muslims that. It included the fucking hilarious "not all Muslims , just the bad ones " that just dug him deeper in it.

If you start a post, start it objectively. If you don't, how can normal people engage in it?

I thought you had written it at first Keith. It was like something you wrote, just more coherent.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:20 PM

rather than getting to the real truth

You mean the real truth like a cure for homosexuality? I would rather believe that the tooth fairy is real and it never rains in southern California thanks.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 04:40 PM

Find the "time".....sincerely.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 04:32 PM

The 'debates' get heated, when political airheads wish to replace hard facts with the 'talking points' of their particular ideology...and then just keep stubbornly pushing their adopted bullshit. When their 'talking point' reality, starts to implode on them, they, and their other like-minded mental midgets resort to hostile name calling and wild accusations, hoping to impress and sway the lesser informed audience..in hopes that a politically biased consensus will be seen as the 'winning argument'...and replace reality.
In other words, they would be 'happy' with a mob of deceived zealots, rather than getting to the real truth, that doesn't suit them. It is sheer idiocy..........but then that's 'politics'.....which is just a fraud perpetrated onto humans to control masses of people....until another crock of shit arises to replace the old crock!

GfS

Yebbut you just sound drug-crazed, which you might not be one supposes, in which case the scenario is even worse, so you don't count. Bugger off.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ed T
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 04:29 PM

""when .... wish to replace hard facts with the 'talking points' of their particular ideology...and then just keep stubbornly pushing...""

Gfs,right on...But, from an objective perspective, a neutral observer would likely see this occuringon either side of a hotly debated mudcat issue, like this obe. Additionally, my observation is that both sides have attempted to define some fairly "soft stuff" (IMO, with little objective research) as "hard facts". Each side seems to be fairly convinced that "their ideology" is the basis of the "truth", and seek sources to prop it up.

Unfortunately, those with less connection with either ideology, are either ignored, minimized, or treated with suspucian, and seen as a supporter of "the other side" of the issue.

Would that not be the source of the discord, and the nasty stuff, from normally nice people?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 04:28 PM

With all due respect ( ok mods, you can look away now.)

What are you waffling on about Akenaton?

You have rightly back pedalled about your desire to round up gay men. All we need is the rest, especially the criminal aspects, the world starts to be a better place. May I suggest you think, if at all possible about your random rambling? If anybody has a clue what you are going on about, they know more about psychiatry than I do.

Good job you aren't representative of where you live. I'm counting the hours before I spend a few days with nice people in your neck of the woods.

Al is too nice. I actually don't have time for your comments.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:57 PM

The 'debates' get heated, when political airheads wish to replace hard facts with the 'talking points' of their particular ideology...and then just keep stubbornly pushing their adopted bullshit. When their 'talking point' reality, starts to implode on them, they, and their other like-minded mental midgets resort to hostile name calling and wild accusations, hoping to impress and sway the lesser informed audience..in hopes that a politically biased consensus will be seen as the 'winning argument'...and replace reality.
In other words, they would be 'happy' with a mob of deceived zealots, rather than getting to the real truth, that doesn't suit them. It is sheer idiocy..........but then that's 'politics'.....which is just a fraud perpetrated onto humans to control masses of people....until another crock of shit arises to replace the old crock!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:24 PM

"Better to keep quiet or go elsewhere."
Do that
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:16 PM

Many people have suggested that aggressive and abusive people are stifling interesting debate.
I am sure that gentle or timid people, who may have interesting contributions to make, are inhibited by the nastiness.

Someone started a thread today about Islamism, following a high profile speech.
Musket turned up ridiculing him in only the second post.
Who wants to be subjected to that?
Better to keep quiet or go elsewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ed T
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 02:07 PM

"The responsibility for keeping threads from becoming boring relies on the kind of participation given by its posters."

True, but again the term boring is subjective.

I recall a person who put up animal pictures and invited people to add captions to them. Some people found if humourous, while others found if trivial and boring. The latter folks had the option to not open the thread and pass if by. But, some of them felt it necessary to go intk the site, to make rude comments. Theh eventually had their way, and bullied the woman from continuing. Now, what was thd gain in doing that, beyond imposing their subjective views on others and taking a small bit oc joy away from others.

You may see this as trivial, as others may find your interests the same. These judgements are subjective. Getting along means being respectful of a variety of perspectives- not just in the religious, political, and sexual orientation threads.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 01:56 PM

I am amazed at the arrogance of people who genuinely believe that there is some kind of plot against them but it does indicate the sort of deep rooted paranoia that results in this type of disagreement.

Anyway, to put the record straight. I am sure that the moderators will confirm that people can and have been banned before. The Shambles, Martin Gibson and Clinton Hammond to name but three. They have either not found a way back in or have changed so dramatically that they were re-admitted under a different handle. The fact that no-one that has been involved in this type of thread has been banned or has even been threatened with a ban is indicative of the moderation teams view of what is going on. Boring? Maybe. Annoying? To some, yes. A concerted plot to destroy Mudcat threads? Hardly. But feel free to decide for yourselves.

Or simply don't read the bits that annoy you. They are quite easy to spot. I am reminded of the old Mary Whitehouse days. Those films are disgusting. I had to watch them 17 times to make sure...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 01:35 PM

Ian,
"Please acknowledge I vehemently disagreed with what he put here and also on the Greyhound Action website under a different pseudonym."

I do not believe a word you say, you used the libel as a weapon.
You have a serious track record of lying on this forum...you have even admitted as much.

This is a very grave assertion by your friend, and you have given credence to it by stating that you may have to revise your judgement on its truthfulness.....your friends "wife" will be found and an apology will be forthcoming......be certain of that.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 01:27 PM

Frank....these people are doing this intentionally, it has nothing to do with humour, or even anger.

They are trying to sabotage every thread that they can, simply because the moderators are at present protecting the principle of free speech.

Even in the UK, there is no law against anything which I or any other member has said regarding immigration, homosexuality, race, or any other subject.

It is simply an attempt at intimidation by a group of wreckers.

Surely the tactics should be obvious to all who follow the BS threads?

I realise that to moderate this forum properly against this sort of attack is difficult to say the least, ban someone and he will return under some other guest handle to make a load of work for the moderators.

At least these people can be recognised for what they are....

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 12:24 PM

I wonder how they could be written into a pantomime.

They couldn't, Jeri.

Oh yes they could!

Oh no they couldn't!

He's behind you!

200. Unless I missed it.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Stringsinger
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 12:18 PM

Mudcat has become an outlet for anger that takes its form in attacking others personally, which is boring. I don't think we should support the notion of a "Jim and Keith" show and I don't see this as a valid observation which plays into the very thing that so many here complain about.

Al, I agree we have to wait until an intelligent conversation emerges but I am always hopeful.

The responsibility for keeping threads from becoming boring relies on the kind of participation given by its posters. "Threads don't bore people; people do". Sorry to paraphrase such an egregious line for such a noxious issue.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 10:21 AM

Keith. Can you just read back to yourself what you just typed?

Then go onto the other thread to read my response?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 09:51 AM

"Jim, it was me who persuaded you to stay remember."
Your behavior was exactly as described, and that is all I have responded to
"Don't go"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Apr 14 - 09:44 AM

Musket, Dave did not say it in abstract.
He said "It was about was no-one. I said it was about no-one. I am surprised that you did not notice."

I am surprised that you did not notice.