BS: the demise of the boring thread

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket's pet dog
Date: 14 May 14 - 09:14 AM

Woof! Woof!
Grrr.....

Woof!

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 May 14 - 08:35 AM

Ebbie, That may have more to do with the mother's emotional disposition while carrying the children in the womb, as I've previously noted. It is at that time that the hormones would be at play, in setting up the receptors, and what and how they process the impulses that would shape how they perceive and process. There is a pretty good explanation of receptors and how they work, in the film, 'What the Bleep Do We Know?', and how they affect people's outlooks and perceptions, habits, etc. I've posted the link several times, and you may find it, not only informative, but personally helpful, as well. I found most of the film fascinating, and the section on receptors was one of the best explanations of how they work was done in a most easy to understand way...it would also shed light on your 'need' to smoke....as well as why we live in the moods about ourselves that we choose.

As for Don,..you have NOT presented one shred of anything to back up your position. The links you have posted, on the other hand, have blown your notions out of the water...but you refuse, for some stupid political persuasion to insist otherwise. As so far as 'dancing', I'm not in the slightest way on the defensive...you are, and your lone 'genetic' theory is VERY MUCH in question, with nothing to lead anyone to believe that there is an ounce of credibility to it...as your study emphatically said, "OTHER factors play a GREATER ROLE in determining sexual orientation"....and I agree, and have been telling you that for quite some time. I think you are mistaking 'dancing' for having the shit kicked out of your political posturing....but why shouldn't it?..politics IS about manipulating masses of people for a consensus, and uses quite a bit of deceptions to achieve it. History has CLEARLY shown that...and you're just in the throws of stubbornly clinging to one of several of those deceptive topics....otherwise you could back up your trip.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 May 14 - 12:38 AM

"dominant mother and compliant father"- I would imagine that the attributes are reversed for the two sexes? The dominant mother would create a homosexual son? Does that mean that a dominant father and a compliant mother would create a homosexual daughter?

It is so confusing. I have a friend in a family of three kids who is gay. His brother is straight. His sis is gay.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 May 14 - 11:20 PM

Doubtful that it's one single gene. It is most probably a combination of genes.

I know a guy named Gene, but he's married and has a couple of kids, so it's pretty certain that he's not gay.

Goofball, try to find something useful to do instead of pissing your pants at everything I post.

Ta ta.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 May 14 - 10:43 PM

D.F.: "Goofus, I never said it was genes rather than hormones. I have said all along that it was a combination of things, including genes and hormones."

So, do you believe it is a 'gay gene' or not?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 May 14 - 02:17 PM

Aw, stop trying to stir up an empty mixing bowl. Maybe we could move on.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 May 14 - 12:14 PM

Goofup, did you teach Michael Flatley how to dance?

You'd lie up a storm when the truth would fit much better, then immediately go into reverse if you thought it would suit you better. You spin so fast that you're in danger of disappearing up your own ass!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 May 14 - 02:11 AM

WHAT???!!!
You're even believing your own spin....Did you forget this very same 'debate' for the last three years??...BUT...at least you're coming along. Like I've said, for about that long, it has to do with the conditioning of the receptors, while in the womb...AND..that's only for the homosexuals who 'were born that way'...(about .02%)..the rest are just co-opting the rap!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 May 14 - 12:23 AM

Goofus, I never said it was genes rather than hormones. I have said all along that it was a combination of things, including genes and hormones.

DO try to pay attention!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 14 - 11:28 PM

Yeah...as compared to 'Felix the Cat'....You might be onto something, finally...so is the roll of hormones, as opposed to a lone or group of genes.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 May 14 - 09:02 PM

Hamlet is undoubtedly one of the greater roles.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 14 - 08:34 PM

D.F.: "Volcanoes are not intelligent..."

Probably the smartest thing up there in Washington!

GfS

P.S. Did you finally figure out what 'Greater Role' means yet?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 May 14 - 07:01 PM

That's Mount Saint Helens, and what does our local volcano have to do with it?

Volcanoes are not intelligent, they just blow off steam and such and generally make an ash of themselves. Kinda like you, Goofy.

You're crackin' up.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 14 - 06:41 PM

D.F.: "Goofus, you throw the word "intelligence" around as if you actually know what it means. Didn't your mother ever tell you not to use words you don't understand?"

"OHH Don!!....What do you NOT understand about the words, "GREATER ROLE"???"

Jeez, even Mount Saint Helen 'got it'..maybe she'll show ya'!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 12 May 14 - 06:35 PM

If Goofus and Akenaton have got it, the rest of us need inoculating against it.

Me? It would seem, if Goofus was anything but a sad joke, I would have to reassess what I mean by objectivity......

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 May 14 - 06:27 PM

Goofus, you throw the word "intelligence" around as if you actually know what it means. Didn't your mother ever tell you not to use words you don't understand?

(...ain't never had no proper fetchin' up.....)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 14 - 06:14 PM

Here, allow me to re-phrase for Akenaton:

"I don't think anyone is trying to write it off as a only choice Don.

It seems clear that childhood experience and general mental condition, set up by hormones, being carried by a stressed woman, can also have a bearing; and YES.. a dominant mother and compliant father can affect a child's sexual orientation, starting in the womb."

Hey, Akenaton 'got it', Don(and Steve)....and you've been boasting how intelligent you are! It's really not that hard....just get everything out of the way that could taint your objectivity....and call it what it is: Bullshit!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 12 May 14 - 06:05 PM

Mudcat may have speeded up, but an odour still lingers....

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 May 14 - 06:03 PM

it is widely believed...

Weasel words. if you don't know what weasel words means, look it up. This is a classic example, and merely the most recent of many from this source.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 May 14 - 05:01 PM

That may play a part, Ake, but there are those who insist that it's merely a chosen lifestyle. Which is, patently, not the case.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 12 May 14 - 04:48 PM

I don't think anyone is trying to write it off as a only choice Don.

It seems clear that childhood experience and general mental condition also have a bearing; it is widely believed that a dominant mother and compliant father can affect a childs sexual orientation

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 May 14 - 03:10 PM

And what could possibly cause the mother to release hormones at the wrong time if not genetics? Several possible things, but it is quite probable that genetics plays a part. Same sex orientation tends to run in extended families and it has been noted the it is the mother's side of the family. Why would more that one woman in an extended family tend to release hormones at the wrong time during pregnancy? Sounds very much like genetics.

The cold, hard fact for those such as you is that, genetics or not, decree of the gods or not, sexual orientation IS NOT SIMPLY A MATTER OF CHOICE.

People do not DECIDE to become gay. And it is often something they have to contend with even when they would wish to be otherwise.

Sorry, Goofus, but you can't simply write it off as choice, no matter how uncomfortable the idea makes you feel.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 14 - 03:04 PM

(Cupping my hands around my mouth, shouting from the Rockies, westward)

"OHH Don!!....What do you NOT understand about the words, "GREATER ROLE"???"...."You remember...as in, '"...OTHER MULTIPLE FACTORS PLAY A GREATER ROLL.."'

Spin it, baby, spin it!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 14 - 12:02 PM

D.F.: "It's pretty well established that sexual orientation is genetics based, although, like evolution early on, the mechanism hasn't been fully worked out yet. It appears so far that the Xq28 gene is involved, but there is still work to do yet."

And the following sentence:

"It is unscientific—and pretty foolish—to claim that same-sex orientation is NOT genetic simply because YOU DON'T LIKE IT. For whatever your reason might be!"

It's pretty unscientific and foolish to say it is solely genetic when the study you posted says:

""While genes do CONTRIBUTE to sexual orientation, OTHER MULTIPLE FACTORS PLAY A GREATER role, perhaps including the levels of hormones a baby is exposed to in the womb."

"We found evidence for two sets [of genes] that affect whether a man is gay or straight. But it is NOT COMPLETELY DETERMINATIVE; there are certainly OTHER environmental factors involved."

"Last year, before the latest results were made public, one of Bailey's colleagues, Alan Sanders, said the findings could not and should not be used to develop a test for sexual orientation."

"When people say there's a gay gene, it's an oversimplification," Sanders said. "There's more than one gene, and genetics is NOT the whole story. Whatever gene CONTRIBUTES to sexual orientation, you can think of it as much as contributing to HETEROSEXUALITY as much as you can think of it contributing to homosexuality. It contributes to a variation in the trait."

So, in light of, "..OTHER MULTIPLE FACTORS PLAY A GREATER ROLL.." perhaps you can scientifically and foolishly spin your way out of what the study says...after all, you posted it!!!

Care to comment on, "...OTHER MULTIPLE FACTORS PLAY A GREATER ROLL.."?????..WITHOUT SPIN!!

What do you NOT understand about the words, "GREATER ROLE"???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 May 14 - 07:06 PM

I'm not the one who's trying to ignore modern science.

Goofballupagus, you remind me of those religious fundamentalists who dump all over Charles Darwin and evolution in general because, early on, Darwin made a few mistakes—which have long since been corrected, both by him and by later scientists.

It's pretty well established that sexual orientation is genetics based, although, like evolution early on, the mechanism hasn't been fully worked out yet. It appears so far that the Xq28 gene is involved, but there is still work to do yet.

It is unscientific—and pretty foolish—to claim that same-sex orientation is NOT genetic simply because YOU DON'T LIKE IT. For whatever your reason might be!

It is patently obvious that same-sex orientation is NOT a matter of choice.
        
I once asked a gay man of my acquaintance if there was a point at which he chose to be gay. He said definitely not, that even at an early age he knew he was different from other little boys. He went on to say, "Considering the fact that many people regard you with contempt, considering you lower than a garden slug, and that being gay can get you fired from your job, beat up repeatedly—and even killed!—who in the hell would ever chose to be gay?"

Goofball, read up on the Matthew Shepard murder. DO IT!!

Or are you too squeamish?

And stop contributing to the hatred and bigotry. And supplying "justification" for Matthew Shepard's brutalbmurderers!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 May 14 - 02:11 PM

D.F.: "Contrary to the demise of the boring thread, it's obvious from this thread that it's still very much alive.
'Round and 'round we go with the same old crappola.
Some folks seem to prefer the Dark Ages to the findings of modern science."

Do you mean you want to go around again, ignoring 'modern science'?..It seems like it!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: pdq
Date: 10 May 14 - 01:56 PM

Boer-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 May 14 - 01:42 PM

Contrary to the demise of the boring thread, it's obvious from this thread that it's still very much alive.

'Round and 'round we go with the same old crappola.

Some folks seem to prefer the Dark Ages to the findings of modern science.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 May 14 - 11:25 AM

Sounds like they were starting a multilevel marketing meeting! Keep the doors locked tight!

GfS

P.S. Multilevel marketing where you lose all your friends because you turn them into prospective clients!...(Sorta like politics!).

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 May 14 - 02:55 AM

This just in.

I had to lock my bedroom door when staying with friends in Inverary the other week, in case it's true that that they like unwilling multiple partners.

Sick puppy

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 May 14 - 02:37 AM

OK-A-A-AY..anything you say .... (rolls eyes).
Glad it's now a 'suspect'....BTW, 'a genetic component', is the part the hormones play a part in...if you don't believe me, check EVERY study you've endorsed, or even put up.
Do you think Xq28 is either the lone gene, or the one vulnerable to the chemical influences?....(Hint: Check your studies.)...scroll back, if you need to....and Boy, do you need to!
If not, you can refer to your favorite ideological politician..he/she knows!!....(rolls eyes, again.).

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 May 14 - 08:47 PM

Goofus, the Xq28 gene on the X-chromosome is a suspect.

If every time a particular something happens, a guy named Charlie is on the scene, one tends to assume that Charlie may have something to do with it, even though you don't actually see him doing it.

The fact that there is a genetic component is not in doubt.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 May 14 - 11:38 PM

OK

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 May 14 - 11:13 PM

Fred Astaire is laughing hysterically.

Don Firth

P. S. I've got "issues?" Goofup, you've got NUTHIN'!!

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 May 14 - 11:06 PM

The markers??
You must not have read the link you posted very well, it refutes your new post...jeez, and I'm the one who told him about Xq28 originally, and the influence on it by the hormones...
Don you are grasping at straws. If you have any questions, refer to:

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 May 14 - 02:45 AM

Where quoting from YOUR posted link, it says, and I quote:

""The gene or genes in the Xq28 region that influence sexual orientation have a LIMITED and VARIABLE impact."

"NOT ALL of the gay men in Bailey's study inherited the same Xq28 region. The genes were NEITHER SUFFICIENT, NOR NECESSARY, to make ANY of the men gay."

YOUR posted link, (once again), so I guess you just wanted to reconfirm to everyone, just how much you don't know diddly-squat- shit from Shinola about what your lie about....figures!

OK!!..Let's do it again...just to make sure, now...:

Don DF Firth: "Xq28.
It's on the X chromosome."

To.....

"The gene or genes in the Xq28 region that influence sexual orientation have a LIMITED and VARIABLE impact."

"NOT ALL of the gay men in Bailey's study inherited the same Xq28 region. The genes were NEITHER SUFFICIENT, NOR NECESSARY, to make ANY of the men gay."

Want to try that again????

Don DF Firth: "Xq28.
It's on the X chromosome."

To.....

"The gene or genes in the Xq28 region that influence sexual orientation have a LIMITED and VARIABLE impact."

"NOT ALL of the gay men in Bailey's study inherited the same Xq28 region. The genes were NEITHER SUFFICIENT, NOR NECESSARY, to make ANY of the men gay."

Again?????

"YOUR posted link, (once again), so I guess you just wanted to reconfirm to everyone, just how much you don't know diddly-squat- shit from Shinola about what your lie about....figures!"

Don DF Firth: "Xq28.
It's on the X chromosome."

To.....

"The gene or genes in the Xq28 region that influence sexual orientation have a LIMITED and VARIABLE impact."

"NOT ALL of the gay men in Bailey's study inherited the same Xq28 region. The genes were NEITHER SUFFICIENT, NOR NECESSARY, to make ANY of the men gay."

Again?????

GfS

P.S. Dude, you got issues!

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 May 14 - 09:59 PM

Goofball, ACHTUNG!!

Xq28.

It's on the X chromosome.

Don Firth

P. S. (Now watch him tap dance!)

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 May 14 - 07:57 PM

The problems with male homosexuality are not restricted to anal sex...

What problems?

...though I am sure this practice is harmful to all who take part in it whether hetero or homo, willingly or unwillingly.

"To all"? You're "sure"? How are you sure? Harmful how? How many people have you discussed this with? Is there an underlying suggestion here that a lot of people partake in it "unwillingly", more, say, than who participate in other kinds of sexual activity? Hadn't you better apprise us of how you gained these insights?

I am sure few women willingly take part in anal sex.

And how many women have you asked? Quite a large number, one assumes, as you're so "sure"? Did any of them slap you, by any chance?

I am not "fascinated" by it, I find it completely disgusting and am sure it can have little to do with emotional attachment.

Not "fascinated" by it? Yet you set yourself up as a fount of knowledge about how many people partake unwillingly or who are "harmed"? That it has nothing to do with "emotional attachment"? Au contraire, you squirming little liar, you are totally obsessed with it in the most disgustingly unhealthy way imaginable. Sick in the head, I'd say, to put it rather too kindly.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Ed T
Date: 08 May 14 - 07:56 PM

'I am sure few women willingly take part in anal sex'

It does not seem like the of topic one would normally get reliable information on "at the work water fountain", BAW.
;)

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 May 14 - 07:54 PM

From reading Don's post, I think he's trying to say he hasn't found it yet, and save face at the same time.
Keep trying.

Big Al: "'I am sure few women willingly take part in anal sex'
perhaps you're doing it wrong......just a suggestion."

TURN HER OVER!! TURN HER OVER!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 08 May 14 - 07:36 PM

I have never heard any woman speak positively about it Al.
I suspect there is a lot of sexual domination at work.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 May 14 - 07:19 PM

'I am sure few women willingly take part in anal sex'

perhaps you're doing it wrong......just a suggestion.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 08 May 14 - 07:00 PM

The problems with male homosexuality are not restricted to anal sex, though I am sure this practice is harmful to all who take part in it whether hetero or homo, willingly or unwillingly.
I am sure few women willingly take part in anal sex.
I am not "fascinated" by it, I find it completely disgusting and am sure it can have little to do with emotional attachment.

The real problem is the intrinsic extreme promiscuity, large numbers of sexual partners, "open marriages", unions and relationships.

These are well documented and have been linked to on other threads, but do NOT infer that monogamy among male homosexuals is impossible.
The elderly couples in my area appear to be monogamous, which could probably be put down to waning sexual drive.....something which affects us all regardless of "orientation"

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 08 May 14 - 06:39 PM

Venus & Mars.

Nice one Don. Far better than my shouting.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 May 14 - 04:29 PM

I will gladly scratch a dog behind the ears or let a cat sit on my lap and purr, I enjoy watching the antics of the squirrels who inhabit the nearby park, I'm quite interested in attempts to communicate with dolphins and other cetaceans who may turn out to be more intelligent than most people think, and I'm thoroughly fascinated at the prospect of trying to establish communications with the squid-like creatures who reside on the planet Procyon Six and who have exhibited a highly developed technology, but other than that, I've found that trying to have an intelligent conversation with creatures outside my own phylum, such as the Goofball, is pretty much a waste of time.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Musket
Date: 08 May 14 - 06:10 AM

It's far too fucking well concealed, idiot.

Because The Dept of Health can't find it, and other than misinterpretation, neither can you.

Have you noticed that those who see through you are also capable of looking at health statistics?

Homosexuality is a safe practice. Full stop. Even those who in the privacy of their bedrooms indulge in anal sex are as safe as heterosexuals who indulge in anal sex. If you go about it unprotected and multiple partners you are at risk. Gender doesn't come into it because a virus can't tell the fucking difference. The over representation in the demographic is a combination of responsible access to testing by gay men versus other risk groups and the potential is due to the stigma that is still attached because of homophobic bastards trying to influence hate, making some gay people a hard to reach group.

A bit like your last post.

Here's a health statistic for you. More women receive anal sex than men. Source- HES data 2012-13, through A&E and colo rectal referral for complications where sex was a factor.

Why do you still think homosexuality is the same as MSM? Why are you fascinated with anal sex? Do you think everybody who is gay participates in it? Don't you think heterosexual people do?

BWWWAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGgghhhhhh.   Oh God, I've been sick.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: akenaton
Date: 08 May 14 - 04:56 AM

You're wasting your time Sanity my friend, you make salient points backed up by studies and facts and receive a shower of abuse in return.

These people are on a mission to make homosexuality appear to be a safe and healthy practice.....for political purposes.

Why would any one want to change?
Why would any one want to stop playing Russian Roulette? Male homosexuals are massively over represented in all sexually transmitted diseases, do you really think this should be ignored or concealed Al?    Do you think it is in the interests of homosexuals, to make this subject taboo?

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,McMusket
Date: 08 May 14 - 02:29 AM

Nationally speaking Don, he's your problem not ours.

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 May 14 - 12:54 AM

Don, it doesn't look like you're very good at finding any kind of genes. You can leave that to the politicians!..Stick to chicks in clubs.

Big Al: "...in fact its abit scary. do you mean any harm to gay people ? if not , what is the point of all this pseudo science."

Harm to homosexuals?? Where do you get that??...as to, "...what is the point of all this pseudo science." Exactly! The interpretations of the studies has made it look like 'pseudo science', because, as you have just witnessed, right here, that though the researchers are CLEARLY saying one thing, the political spinners are trying to make it say something else completely opposite! The researchers say "Nope, haven't found the gene yet, gotta keep looking", and the politicos say, "See they found it!"
Is that the kind of political people you want to trust or believe?...about this or ANYTHING???...No matter how they wrap it, with whatever 'good' intentions, they are lying through their teeth...and even got UN-knowledgeable people doing it for them...and with such vitriol and divisive hatred and angst...doesn't THAT bother you?? ....To be on the side of liars?...Shit, I'd be pissed...AND, I'd tell them to knock it off, and give you STRAIGHT INFO, not some made-up bullshit. If you let them get away with that, what else have they deceived you with???...That they are for the 'little guy' and not the corporation/mega banksters???..That they represent you, and YOUR best interests??........You know what? MY best interests lay in being told the truth, and not be stirred up emotionally over such stupid lies and spinning of the truth....Can't they trust the people who believe in them??.. and their 'cause' by giving them the truth???..and furthermore, can we trust them when they are caught repeatedly lying to those who trusted them???
What is this?..Zombies on parade??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 May 14 - 09:50 PM

Hey! I have a great idea!

They haven't yet found the gene for "handedness" yet, so it's obviously a matter of choice, right?   A left handed lifestyle!

And considering the problems that left handed people cause, like at social occasions where a right handed person and a left handed person keep bumping elbows at a banquet table and things like that…….

Why don't a bunch of us persecute left handed people, look on them with contempt, deny them their civil rights, and insist they be rounded up and "cured" of their perversion?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 May 14 - 06:45 PM

where is this sanity place that you come from?

I think you are spending too long on your own. you are thinking too much about things in a way that does not reflect the generality of human experience. its not healthy.

in fact its abit scary. do you mean any harm to gay people ? if not , what is the point of all this pseudo science.

if you have a real interest in genetics - enrol on a college course. scanning the internet for people that support your point of view is no substitute for education. it does involve quite a lot of hard work.

if you get yourself educated and you're still of the same mind. find a regime to work for. Mengele managed it.