BS: Enough already

Subject: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 05:46 PM

"Enough already?" "Enough allbloodyready??" What the hell does this mean? I keep seeing this. Now look here, yanks. I love you all. I defend American spelling and even some American English. But this is a stupid expression. Stop doing it. We were refining the immortal King's English while you were killing buffaloes and drinking sarsaparilla out of doity glasses, so knock it off. These things rub off in a most subversive way, you know. I'm already in trouble with Mrs Steve for my inability to refrain form saying "from the get go." So I say to you, give over. Enough already!




Shit, did I just say that...?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: gnu
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 05:55 PM

Don't start with me.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 06:03 PM

Jaysus, they're flooding into my head as I sit here. "My bad." How bloody silly is that! Still, do what you like. I could care less.



Shit...

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 06:09 PM

And what the hell is this "meh?" If you don't want to tell me on the forum you could always write me.



Aargh...

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 08:08 PM

And I'd just gotten back from the train station to Walmart, and picked up a shopping cart, when I got a call on my cellphone to say that my house had been burglarised! Jeez, when will normalcy return to my life! Well, I've gotten over it now. I'm good, going forward. And that's all there is to it. Period.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: michaelr
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 08:09 PM

Oh come on, Steve. It's all good.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 08:18 PM

All good? I have some alternate ideas. I'll give you the heads-up later. In the meantime, you do the math...

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: frogprince
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 08:22 PM

At this point in time, I would say you should just run it up the flag pole and it will all come out in the wash.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 08:45 PM

I'll take a rain-check on that...

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 08:48 PM

What's up with that?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 08:52 PM

Okey-dokey. Oh, yeah, in case you have a need to know: "meh" comes from New York Yiddish. Only a meshugener would think otherwise, capice?

So don't get a bee in your bonnet, dude. Us Americans (including the Canucks and the Irish) are doing y'all a favor by keeping the language fresh and alive. God only knows, the queen don't!


:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 09:11 PM

I mean like, whatever, ya know?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Ed T
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 09:14 PM

Yada, yada

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: michaelr
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 09:15 PM

Totally.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 09:38 PM

Taken from 'English is not Normal' (Google it!)
"English started out as, essentially, a kind of German. Old English is so unlike the modern version that it feels like a stretch to think of them as the same language at all. Hwæt, we gardena in geardagum þeodcyninga þrym gefrunon – does that really mean 'So, we Spear-Danes have heard of the tribe-kings' glory in days of yore'? Icelanders can still read similar stories written in the Old Norse ancestor of their language 1,000 years ago, and yet, to the untrained eye, Beowulf might as well be in Turkish.
"The first thing that got us from there to here was the fact that, when the Angles, Saxons and Jutes (and also Frisians) brought their language to England, the island was already inhabited by people who spoke very different tongues."

And you object to Americanese? sheesh. Enough, already. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Ed T
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 09:42 PM

Get over it, dude.

It's awesome.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 09:43 PM

You know what they told the dinosaurs: "adapt of die". It's a bit extreme, but, like, whatev.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Kampervan
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 09:58 PM

Sounds like we're past our expiration date Steve, but I agree with you.

What sounds cute when you hear it with a North American accent just sounds awful when it gets into everyday use over here.

Does it work both ways? Do any UK expressions ever become everyday usage in America?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Apr 16 - 10:45 PM

A North American accent is cute? That's nice to know.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 12:44 AM

is there a North American accent? The baaarrrst'n accent sounds very different to NuYork to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Kampervan
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 01:01 AM

Cute? Well maybe quirky, or interesting?

Accent? Well just one or dozens. It's only me that doesn't have an accent.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Jack Campin
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 05:35 AM

Do any UK expressions ever become everyday usage in America?

Only wankers ever use them.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 05:55 AM

In my opinion most US posters use the language more properly and more civilly than their UK brethren.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 06:05 AM

Lighten up why don't you.


:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 06:07 AM

Ah Steve - missing you already...

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: fat B****rd
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 06:27 AM

Y'all be sure and have a nice day now.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 06:31 AM

Jack's post put me in mind of this. It's an extract from a post on a harmonica forum from ten years ago which caused some hilarity among the Brits on the forum. The guy who posted it, an American chap, died a few years ago, sadly, and was one of the best blues harp players ever. His grasp of one of our more pejorative bits of terminology was slightly less secure, as you'll read:

   ....With the students that I have, I try to teach them to play with intentions. I consider a player (of any instrument) to be wanker/wanking when he/she plays notes without intent. Playing notes for the sake of playing notes is wanking in my book. If you don't know what to play then don't play, there is nothing wrong with space.

In my experience, harmonica players are amoung the worst at wanking. Just because you can make a bit of noise or even be able to play a few runs on an instrument doesn't make you a player of that instrument nor does it make you a musician....

...As far as the bass goes, I'm just a wanker with little concept of where to fit in the cool stuff I can play.

Everybody goes through a wanking period as they evolve into a real player. And as the player matures the wankiness goes away and intention begins to surface. There is also a point where an advanced players gets bored with playing intentfully and then turns back to the chaos that is wankerdom. I won't name the players I have in mind but it's during the wankiness that one tends to lose the audience. In music, it's the height of arrogance and egoism when once stands there and thinks the audience wants to hear waves of shit spewing through your instrument.

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 06:43 AM

"Ah Steve - missing you already..."

Huh? But I ain't goin' no place...so what gives?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 06:57 AM

Be cool Bro. This thread is awesome, you guys.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 06:58 AM

North American accents?
Oui, thousands, under many pale face moons, Senor.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: MMario
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:04 AM

"Do any UK expressions ever become everyday usage in America?"

- cannot think of any off hand, but do know that some expressions and word usages have REMAINED current and everyday usage in the US while falling out of use in the UK.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:12 AM

I have to say I find 'meh' useful. Not really I spoken English but for texts and so on it is such much more convenient to send "the cinema only had meh films" as I did earlier today. In "standard English" it would be much more verbose.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:20 AM

I find "shit" an acceptable alternative to "meh'. Try it, as in "the cinema only had shit films". :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:22 AM

"Meh?" I'm pissed as I don't even know how to pronounce the the darn thing. Back in the day I'd have emoted more about stuff, but these days I don't GIVE a damn. Sun's out so I'm going outside to chill and catch a few rays. Catch you later...

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:24 AM

"I have to say..."

You do have a choice! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:24 AM

That"s too extreme. The films aren't actually bad. Just.... meh

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:26 AM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:28 AM

I *think* the 'i have to say' construct is a very English one. But our US colleagues can straighten me out

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 07:58 AM

Well, when they're telling you like it is, make sure you listen up.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: gnu
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 08:11 AM

Give 'er some.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Stu
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 08:27 AM

Can I get an opinion?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 08:58 AM

Going forward you might get an opinion, but at this point in time we're on to other things and we could care less about your wanting an opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 09:27 AM

Aw go on...give him one irregardless!

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 09:29 AM

"Meh" is commonly used in Scotland, by our woolly four legged inhabitants. I have been reliably informed by some English tourists that it's a term of endearment!   :0(

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 10:10 AM

Get er done

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 10:13 AM

Meh = French Canadian veriation of m'eh

;)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 10:27 AM

We pronounce it much the same as the sheep. I think it's Ovine in origin and probably crossed over into American via somebody's Scot ancestor on a farm somewhere with a very unimpressed sheep.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 10:32 AM

Enough Already!

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 10:48 AM

Kampervan asked, "Does it work both ways? Do any UK expressions ever become everyday usage in America?" For me the answer is yes. That's because I watch TV shows and read books set across the pond. Among them:
Across the pond.
Whose she when she's at home?
Brilliant!

Subject: RE: BS: Enough already
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Apr 16 - 11:43 AM

A Southernism one hears, i.e., "Steve started another thread, Bless his heart." It isn't a good thing.