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BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II

Raggytash 20 Feb 17 - 07:50 AM
Keith A of Hertford 20 Feb 17 - 07:41 AM
Big Al Whittle 20 Feb 17 - 07:38 AM
Raggytash 20 Feb 17 - 07:33 AM
Keith A of Hertford 20 Feb 17 - 07:19 AM
Dave the Gnome 20 Feb 17 - 06:12 AM
Raggytash 20 Feb 17 - 05:52 AM
Big Al Whittle 20 Feb 17 - 05:37 AM
Raggytash 20 Feb 17 - 04:30 AM
Big Al Whittle 20 Feb 17 - 04:21 AM
Jim Carroll 20 Feb 17 - 04:20 AM
Teribus 20 Feb 17 - 04:03 AM
Dave the Gnome 20 Feb 17 - 03:42 AM
akenaton 20 Feb 17 - 03:41 AM
Big Al Whittle 19 Feb 17 - 09:12 PM
Jim Carroll 19 Feb 17 - 07:45 PM
akenaton 19 Feb 17 - 03:56 PM
akenaton 19 Feb 17 - 03:54 PM
Jim Carroll 19 Feb 17 - 03:06 PM
Steve Shaw 19 Feb 17 - 03:04 PM
Dave the Gnome 19 Feb 17 - 02:32 PM
Teribus 19 Feb 17 - 09:36 AM
Jim Carroll 19 Feb 17 - 08:36 AM
Teribus 19 Feb 17 - 08:27 AM
Jim Carroll 19 Feb 17 - 04:14 AM
Keith A of Hertford 19 Feb 17 - 04:05 AM
Jim Carroll 19 Feb 17 - 03:17 AM
Joe Offer 19 Feb 17 - 02:43 AM
Teribus 18 Feb 17 - 09:46 PM
Steve Shaw 18 Feb 17 - 05:24 PM
Keith A of Hertford 18 Feb 17 - 03:19 PM
Steve Shaw 18 Feb 17 - 02:33 PM
Teribus 18 Feb 17 - 12:36 PM
Steve Shaw 18 Feb 17 - 04:59 AM
Raggytash 18 Feb 17 - 04:56 AM
Steve Shaw 18 Feb 17 - 04:56 AM
Jim Carroll 18 Feb 17 - 04:43 AM
Keith A of Hertford 18 Feb 17 - 04:30 AM
Keith A of Hertford 18 Feb 17 - 04:21 AM
Teribus 18 Feb 17 - 04:16 AM
Raggytash 18 Feb 17 - 04:13 AM
Keith A of Hertford 18 Feb 17 - 04:02 AM
Jim Carroll 18 Feb 17 - 03:53 AM
Steve Shaw 17 Feb 17 - 05:54 PM
Raggytash 17 Feb 17 - 05:46 PM
Teribus 17 Feb 17 - 04:49 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 07:50 AM

Yes I met Steve ........... last year. I have explained quite clearly my relationships with other posters on this forum.

However, if you read my post, I said that I had had more personal communication with Akenaton this year than with Jim, Steve, Greg etc.

The exception to this was Dave who I met on Saturday. I have no need to try and hide this from anyone.

That's because it is non of their business really.

So is Akenaton one of the imaginary "little gang"


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 07:41 AM

Rag,
How many times do you need to be told there is no "little gang" professor.

I refer to the fact that you all act in concert, for example in all suddenly talking about flowers to kill the current discussion.
You forgot to mention that you have actually met Steve too. You met with him in Cornwall I recall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 07:38 AM

in heaven we'll all play beautifully and sing. and in the other place too.

take my word for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 07:33 AM

How many times do you need to be told there is no "little gang" professor.

The "little gang" is a figment of your imagination (or paranoia)

I have explained at length my involvement with other posters on this site.

If truth be known I have had more personal communication with Akenaton this year than I have with Jim, Steve, Greg etc. Does that make him part of the imaginary "little gang"

The exception to this is Dave whom I actually met on Saturday. (and no we did not discuss Mudcat, we played, sang and drank, very good it was too)


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 07:19 AM

Jim,
Your favourite "Muppet"

I think and believe that "Muppet" is a term of affection not abuse.
That is how I use it, but when you claimed to be offended by it, I stopped using it at once.
That was years ago now Jim.

If you are trying to suggest that it makes me guilty of using personal abuse, it does not.
It proves my innocence of it.

I am disappointed that Joe stepped in to protect Steve, surely one of the most personal and offensive posters here, but ignored all the personal abuse I have to endure from him and his little gang including you Jim.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 06:12 AM

There were snowdrops laid in the form of a cross in Ingleton churchyard. Bit cheesy but very pretty.

So, it is a discussion forum? Why then do people keep telling us there are certain rules that we must all follow. That is formalising things which, to my mind, is a debate. A discussion is far more informal with none of the rules of debate that keep getting wheeled out. Also, as far as I know, a discussion has no winners of losers so where does the 'You lose' phrase come in I wonder?

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 05:52 AM

Won't work Al.

1.You cannot claim as FACT that God exists.

2.You cannot claim as FACT that Angels exists.

3. As far as I am aware Jim neither plays an instrument nor sings.

Bit of a bugger really.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 05:37 AM

so you say Jim, but i reckon if you felt about Ake the same way as your Granny felt about Mosley, your answers would be more terse.

Face it You guys need each other.
Why not find your feminine side and kiss and make up.

when you're both angels, i bet God will put you together on the same cloud for all eternity - making beautiful music together.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 04:30 AM

There were lots of Snowdrops out at the weekend, in some area down Wensleydale in particular there were vast swaths of them. Serenely beautiful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 04:21 AM

bloody funny discussion.....its circular!

you keep calling each other names. if you really held each other in such contempt, you wouldn't give a shit what the other bloke was saying, because long ago ---you would have said to yourself....this bloke is an idiot, he's never going to say anything sensible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 04:20 AM

"It is not a debating forum it is a discussion forum - vast difference."
Whoops - your semantics are showing again
"The last post on this thread from Jim contains four direct and mean insults."
Not insults a summing up of your extremist and incredibly dishonest contribution.
You have just been given two examples of Trump's racist manipulation of an extremely volatile situation - once again you refuse to comment and will, no doubt, continue to support such behaviour with your silence.
Worthy of a fue harsh words in my book
This fuehrer is turning the world into a political minefield and is putting its future at risk
Happy to insult anybody who supports that.
My grandmother was once arrested for hitting Mosley with a stone - maybe she should have shaken his hand and bought him a pint.
You are what you are Ake, and until I'm proved wrong, I will continue to point it out
You may wish to appease evil - I don't
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 04:03 AM

It is not a debating forum it is a discussion forum - vast difference.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 03:42 AM

We wish, Al. It keeps being pointed out that this is a debating forum. It isn't, it is a folk music forum and the BS section is for anything else. But, if it was a debating forum each side of the debate would have once chance to make claim, then counterclaim for each side and there would be a timed section for questions. There would then be a vote and a winner would be declared. Instead what we have here is a war of attrition where someone goes on and on and on and on and on until they think everyone has had enough and that makes them the winner. Sad really.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 03:41 AM

Come on Al, I hardly ever abuse Jim, in fact I have commended him on quite a few occasions.
Jim's responses to me are almost always identical, a list of untruths and misrepresentations of my position.
The last post on this thread from Jim contains four direct and mean insults.....and that's very mild he missed out the racist, fascist, homophobe bit this time. In fact, I'm beginning to think he might not like me very much.....:0(


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 09:12 PM

you guys have been at this stuff a fair old time..........

the second world war had very little to recommend it, but at least there was a reasonably decisive outcome.
do you think maybe there will come a point where one bloke says - dammit you're right. you win! well done old man!
and the other bloke says, well done ! a fine effort!


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 07:45 PM

"OOps wrong thread...sorry Jim"
No problem Ake - gives me another opportunity to post this
Maybe you can get someone to read it to you when you sober up in the morning

Your support for this monster now reaches ' collaboration" proportions
One of his employees invented the "Bowling Green Massacre" that never took place, now he has announced a Terrorist attack in Sweden that never happened
He is made - his supporters are both sick and dishonest
I hope you have no kids to bequeath tha sick world you are going to leave them
You won't respond to this of course, Quisling hero that you are and I doubt if your mate Iain will either.
Doesn't seem part of your makeup
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:56 PM

OOps wrong thread...sorry Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:54 PM

Hi Ram Ho! fur Donal John,
Wi aw his tanterwallops on,
An' may he niver lack a scone,
While he mak's hi'lan' whisky.......:0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:06 PM

"Tirade of abuse = Frank and honest opinion"
According to Teribus
Torrent of abuse = par for the course
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:04 PM

You won't get many flowers this time of the year, Dave. It's bloody grim oop north in Feb. Glad you enjoyed it. Sod the bollocks. Let's turn every annoying thread into fun!


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 02:32 PM

We had a lovely weekend in Ribblehead. My man flu did affect the walk in that it took us 4 hours to do the 5 mile walk but, in some ways, that made it all the more enjoyable. As I stopped to catch my breath every 5 minutes, I had time to enjoy the scenery more! Didn't catch many flowers, sorry Steve, but it was lovely all the same. Saturday evening was a dream as well. Thanks for joining us Raggy and Raggywife. Maybe if more people did the same we would all be a lot happier :-)

Sad to see it is the same old bollocks on here.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 09:36 AM

According to Carroll:

Tirade of abuse = Frank and honest opinion

Seems as though Jom and his pals are the only people entitled to opinions - How typically "socialist" of you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 08:36 AM

"Bugger off. You are beyond tiresome."
Somewhat bland next to your years of persistent tirades of abuse, I thought
Want more examples - not really stared on it?
Latest examples
"Oh dear Shaw yet another thread where you have run out of steam and cannot resort to meaningless waffle "
"the "Complete and utter" bollocks is my opinion of what Steve Shaw normally writes on any question under the Sun!"
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 08:27 AM

Rather strange Joe that you do not find this (Addressed to Keith A) as being too personal - no resulting comment from you at all:

Steve Shaw - 18 Feb 17 - 05:24 PM

Bugger off. You are beyond tiresome.


What I posted was my honest opinion of what Shaw said.

Do I think Shaw posts "Complete and utter" Bollocks? - Yes I do, and I have now stated that opinion - an opinion on what Shaw has said - no personal remark or opinion of the man himself. I could have digressed to waffle on inanely about the first thing that came into my head, as Shaw and his pals have done, in an attempt to destroy the thread, but instead I responded directly to what had been posted.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 04:14 AM

"Joe, is all the personal stuff directed at me not worthy of comment?"
I've just pointed out your own recently posted 'personal stuff' on another thread.
If you are going to indulge, don't whine when others follow suit
Your favourite "Muppet"
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 04:05 AM

Joe, is all the personal stuff directed at me not worthy of comment?


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:17 AM

"Now, Teribus, you don't have to be so personal about it"
It appears he does have to Joe
It might be a good start if he addresses people in the name they chose
You suggested we did that quite a while ago - he is the only one to persist
It would remove some of the loutishness form his postings
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 02:43 AM

Now, Teribus, you don't have to be so personal about it...

What are the issues you'd like to address?


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 09:46 PM

Oh dear Shaw yet another thread where you have run out of steam and cannot resort to meaningless waffle - Otherwise recognised as "Complete and utter" bollocks, to use your expression to divert everybody's attention ( Please note the expression of Shaw's that I am referring to is the word "Bollocks" - the "Complete and utter" bollocks is my opinion of what Steve Shaw normally writes on any question under the Sun).


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 05:24 PM

Bugger off. You are beyond tiresome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 03:19 PM

Steve,
Nonetheless Keith, you lied in your teeth then and you're still at it now.

No lies from me, now or then Steve.
Instead of always trying to smear, why not discuss the Labour Party as per the thread title?
Too humiliating?


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 02:33 PM

I'm surprised that you actually know about the ethos above the line, as you hardly ever go there. Well, except to read, I suppose you'll be telling us. But rarely to contribute.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 12:36 PM

Of course there is a bit of a drought above the line Shaw. Threads above the line tend to be topic specific with less ill-informed, contentious, idiotic ideological bollocks, to use your own expression (Please note that the expression of Shaw's I am referring to is the word bollocks - the "ill-informed, contentious, idiotic ideological bollocks represents what I generally think of your contributions), so there is no need for intervention. Another feature in threads above the line is that there is none of the deliberate stalking and mobbing of contributors that goes on below the line. On the subject of traditional folk music in threads above the line I find myself generally in agreement with Jim Carroll, who when challenged to defend his views does so without the need for any supporting contributions.

Oddly enough Raggy I didn't bother looking you up as I regard you as more of "hanger on", compared to the rest of the crew but thank you very much for the correction.

Shaw - 14,425 member since 13th May, 2007
Carrol - 18,401 member since 6th December, 2007
Gnome - 16,088 member since 22nd June 2000

I'd look up Musket, but there were three of them which would skew the figures somewhat. Greg F. I simply do not bother with as he very rarely ever actually says anything (The noise he makes is like the music they play in a Lift {elevator for our American friends}). But I think you get the drift and general point being made.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:59 AM

It ill-behoves you to draw attention to your posting history, Teribus. Bit of a drought above the line, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:56 AM

You really should verify your "facts" teri before you post.

Since 2002 when you first posted using the pseudonym Teribus you have posted on 8092 occasions.

Since 2001 when I first posted using the pseudonym Raggytash I have posted on 2884 occasions

Since 2001 when I first posted using the pseudonym Guest Raggytash I have posted on 3099 occasions.

2884 plus 3099 equals 5983, some 2109 posts fewer in a slightly longer time scale.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:56 AM

Nonetheless Keith, you lied in your teeth then and you're still at it now. Absolutely bang to rights. Trivial enough in the overall scheme of things, but the episode speaks volumes about your character failings. All you had to do was admit that you'd got it wrong. Teribus does that, Jim does that, I do that, Raggytash does that, Dave does that and bobad does that. I've provided enough here to show how you got it wrong, and the place in the thread is accessible (date and time above) for anyone who wants to see your disreputable behaviour in full detail. When you are arguing or debating with someone, it's crucial to know exactly who you're arguing with. That whole sorry episode, and your refusal to put your hands in the air, tells me that I can't trust a single word you say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:43 AM

Well the reality of the situation is Jom"
No - the reality is if you didn't persist in talking down to people and insulting everybody who disagreed with you these threads would be far more useful and pleasant to be part of
Between you and your arrogance and Keith and his serial obsessive dishonesty, you've managed to turn this forum into a swamp
How about packing it in - the pair of you and behaving like adult human beings?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:30 AM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-anti-semitism-claims-candidate-fair-right-twitter-meme-a7570181.html

Huff. Post 12 hours ago on resignation of Simon Fletcher,

"But another Labour source told HuffPost UK: "Having got Corbyn elected in the first place he has reaped what he sowed.
"It's clear team Corbyn won't listen to anyone with a track record of delivery now. The last person to have masterminded a vote winning campaign has left the building."
"Simon made the hard left electable with Ken, clearly Corbyn was a bridge too far. Vaguely talented man realises very late in the day he's only ever worked for congenital idiots."
Another Labour insider said: "Don't forget that Simon Fletcher was a member of a Socialist Action, a Trotskyist group. When they are considered too moderate, it sends a really powerful message to everyone else that this isn't even a group that is willing to co-operate with other Trotskyist groups." "
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/more-pain-for-jeremy-corbyn-as-simon-fletcher-quits-as-campaign-chief_uk_58a7102ce4b07602a


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:21 AM

Back to discussing the Labour Party.
The Independent 9 days ago,

"Former Labour parliamentary candidate(and current councillor) accused of anti-Semitism after retweeting a far-right meme"

"It suggested that Israel controlled both houses in the US House of Representatives and that the country, along with the Rothschild family, had taken over the world. 
He later apologised, saying he did not realise the user, Tinnelle88, was spreading far-right hate speech and conspiracy theories. But he had not deleted it at the time of publication."

"They (the Rothschilds) have since been the target of many unfounded conspiracy theories – many of which are anti-Semitic in nature. 
Mr Clarke's comments have reignited the controversy over anti-Semitism within the Labour party which has plagued leader Jeremy Corbyn over the past year.
The party was forced to confront a series of incidents last year
including remarks made by members on Twitter and at public meetings."


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:16 AM

Well the reality of the situation is Jom that if you and your pals didn't post such "contentious, ill-informed and idiotic" bollocks, to use Steve's expression (Please note the expression of Steve's that I am referring to here is the word Bollocks - the "contentious, ill-informed and idiotic" bollocks is my opinion of what you post) Then I for one would hardly ever post at all - to check that out take a look at my posting record with regard to:

(a) Length of time I have been a member
(b) Number of posts I have made (Far, far less than you and rest of the "usual suspects")
(c) Number of posts that I have initiated. ( Less than the fingers on one hand IIRC in 17 years)


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:13 AM

still lying about it I see, despite the truth being there for all to see.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:02 AM

Rag,
You referred to an expression "lying bollocks" an expression which Steve had not used.

I did nopt specify both expressions.
The expression I referred to was "bollocks" which was obvious to everyone at the time because Steve had just used it five times in one short post.
(Obvious to any honest person, who was not just seeking another smear to use.)

Steve,
I've scoured that thread again and I can't find a post before I challenged you on 16 December 2014 in which you had "already quoted the passage in full."

Dishonest Steve.
As you know it was in a parallel thread with all the same contributors including you.
If you had really "scoured that thread" you would have seen me point that out many times.

The FACT is that Wheatcroft rubbished both texts, whichever words he used and I did quote him in full.
The FACT is that in rubbishing those texts he rubbished your position and upheld mine.
The FACT is that you were just using that one word as a ploy to divert a thread that you were losing, exactly as you are trying to do again now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 03:53 AM

I really do think that when a dissuccion has reduced to "lying bollocks" and "Jom Carroll", it's had its day
Totally mindless
Life really is to short lads, you really are better than that
Leave these people to drown in their own swill - life really is too short
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 05:54 PM

He's lied for TWO YEARS about the Guardian piece. You have a long fight ahead of you, Raggytash. In its way it's a trivial matter. But it doesn't half expose the man for the disreputable bugger he really is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 05:46 PM

The professor posted "I have shown that to be lying bollocks to use Steve's expression" at 09.01am on the 15th.

Which part of this can you not comprehend, is it really that difficult for you.

Steve has not used that expression, the professor was incorrect to attribute the expression to him.

For 2 days he has lied, prevaricated, twisted, squirmed and lied some more when the simple solution would have been to withraw the comment.

However the professor can NEVER admit that he has made an error can he.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 04:49 PM

Well Raggy, I must have read it because I copied it in it's entirety in my own post of 17 Feb 17 - 02:59 PM.

Bollocks WAS the expression Shaw used wasn't it? - It is plain enough to me that in his post of 09:01 Keith A is accusing Jim Carroll of spouting lying bollocks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 04:29 PM

My apologies. The professors post was at 09.01 on the 15th not quiet the time I posted earlier.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 04:06 PM

Good grief, look back at the professors post from 09.21 am on the 15th February.

Are you saying he didn't post this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Teribus
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 03:41 PM

Oh a "contretemps" is it Raggy? And here's me just thinking the "Usual Suspects" are just up to their old tricks "mobbing" Keith, like the bunch of Trolls that you undoubtedly are.

Who said that Steve used the expression "lying bollocks"? Keith A certainly DID NOT. So far only Shaw and you Raggy have claimed that he did.

In his response to Jim's inaccurate (As ever) and unsubstantiated (As always) accusation of making anti-Semitic remarks Keith A pointed out to Jim that he was lying and talking bollocks, ("to use the expression Steve Shaw had used five times two posts prior to Keith A addressing Jim Carroll). Jim Carroll by the way talks a great deal of bollocks on a vast array of subjects on this forum. In fact on that subject you Raggy are possibly his nearest rival in the talking bollocks stakes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 03:10 PM

You are not prepared to answer a direct question as posed earlier.

Did Steve use the expression "lying bollocks" which is the source of this particular contretemps or is the professor lying.

It is either one or the other.


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