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Why are most mudcats heterosexual?

SINSULL 17 Jul 00 - 05:13 PM
Biskit 17 Jul 00 - 05:07 PM
GUEST,Queer N.Proud 17 Jul 00 - 12:04 PM
GUEST,KingBrilliant 17 Jul 00 - 07:30 AM
GUEST,lox 17 Jul 00 - 12:41 AM
Bugsy 16 Jul 00 - 08:45 PM
Bill D 16 Jul 00 - 07:10 PM
GUEST 16 Jul 00 - 03:11 PM
Lonesome EJ 16 Jul 00 - 02:55 PM
Gary T 16 Jul 00 - 02:49 PM
GUEST 16 Jul 00 - 01:57 PM
SDShad 16 Jul 00 - 01:07 PM
Bill D 16 Jul 00 - 12:27 PM
GUEST 16 Jul 00 - 11:41 AM
Snuffy 16 Jul 00 - 05:00 AM
GUEST,Hilary NZ 16 Jul 00 - 02:58 AM
Bugsy 16 Jul 00 - 12:56 AM
GUEST,catspaw69 (no relation to the other guy) 15 Jul 00 - 11:32 PM
Terry Allan Hall 15 Jul 00 - 10:32 PM
SDShad 15 Jul 00 - 10:23 PM
catspaw49 15 Jul 00 - 10:20 PM
Bill D 15 Jul 00 - 09:57 PM
RichM 15 Jul 00 - 07:25 PM
katlaughing 15 Jul 00 - 05:41 PM
Bill D 15 Jul 00 - 05:30 PM
Biskit 15 Jul 00 - 05:22 PM
GUEST,the mudcat closet 15 Jul 00 - 05:11 PM
GUEST,George 15 Jul 00 - 03:40 PM
Liz the Squeak 15 Jul 00 - 03:38 PM
Liz the Squeak 15 Jul 00 - 03:36 PM
Jeri 15 Jul 00 - 02:58 PM
catspaw49 15 Jul 00 - 02:54 PM
GUEST,Lenny 15 Jul 00 - 02:48 PM
Bill D 15 Jul 00 - 01:54 PM
MarkS 15 Jul 00 - 01:37 PM
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Morticia 15 Jul 00 - 01:04 PM
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sledge 15 Jul 00 - 12:43 PM
catspaw49 15 Jul 00 - 12:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 05:13 PM

Please let's try to kill this thread. Post all future responses to one of the "catch-all" garbage bins. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Biskit
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 05:07 PM

Oh MY!!!I believe we've infamed th'flamer.....-Biskit-


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,Queer N.Proud
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 12:04 PM

Well, if you want more gay men to come to your folkie events, you mudcat fellows ought to stop stealing your clothes from the goodwill bins and take some time to find where a real clothing store in your neighborhood -- stop cutting your own hair and learn what the word "stylist" means and while your at it, learn this word too-"Deodorant".


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,KingBrilliant
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 07:30 AM

Hey Bugsy,

does that mean that most mudcatters are 'who gives a tossers' ?? :) (I do hope that reads as funny - sorry if it didn't)

Kris


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 12:41 AM

hello! etc

I've just flown in from Armenia and I was wondering if anyone might be interested in my pants.

Submit, massage, and clear entries.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bugsy
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 08:45 PM

Yes Bill D it's me.

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 07:10 PM

wish Max would write software that looked at ISP #s and gave each 'guest' a different number...(yes, it would be easier if they would at LEAST invent a silly name when they want to be anon, but they can't be bothered..)


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 03:11 PM

There's nothing wrong with being gay. I'm sure there are more gay 'catters than anyone thinks.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 02:55 PM

What do you mean most folksingers are heterosexual? Wasn't it Woody Guthrie himself who wrote the great Gay Hymns This Gland is Your Gland, This Gland is my Gland, and Pretty Boy Freud? How about Dylan's I Like a Rolling Stone,his thinly veiled lovesong to Keith Richard? Or his ode to bestiality, I Want Ewe? Even the great Irish Traditional song Carrickfergus speaks of a man who in one line has his marriage recorded "on marble tablets, as black as ink", but several lines later is trying to find "a Handsome Boatman."

However, I am still surprised and shocked by this statement from Catspaw- "Personally, I am proud to admit that I'm a bald, Rogaine-using, mutated Ubanganese, Satanic converted, cross dressing, tri-sexual, with a passion for Armenian pants salesmen and Innuit strippers." - since, from his picture in the archive, he does not appear to be bald.

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Gary T
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 02:49 PM

Well, Guest, it largely is about music and music-related issues. However, it also gets into just about any imaginable subject at times. What you may not be aware of is that there has been discussion, going back years, about the appropriateness of some of the non-music threads. There are various opinions on this, including many that mirror yours.

Please don't be too put off by the responses to your comment. Probably your remarks came across this way: after protracted and as yet unfinished debate on a somewhat divisive topic (the topic of BS/non-music threads), a newcomer (who seems to be unaware of previous discussion on the issue) jumps in with a rather strident admonishment and effectively starts barking orders. Naturally, those who don't agree with that position are going to bristle a bit. (I think they were fairly gentle about it.) Many or most of those who do agree with your position are not even reading this thread, as they find it (and many other threads) exasperating.

There's plenty of music and music-related discussion going on, and plenty of past discussion and information is available through the super-search. If you choose to rail against the non-music related threads, that is your right. You won't be alone in your feelings, but you probably won't get any real satisfaction for your desires.

My counsel--seek that which appeals to you here on the Mudcat, and turn away from that which irritates you. I would hope that you find enough stuff you like to make it a positive, enjoyable experience.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 01:57 PM

sorry, wrong website. i thought this site was about folk music.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: SDShad
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 01:07 PM

Thanks, GUEST, but when we need a Net Cop, we'll hire out one of the really unhinged ones from Usenet. They're much more entertaining. Cheeky of you, ordering Max what he should do with his own bloody computers! There are plenty of BS threads that I don't read, and that we really don't need. But get a grip: they're only electrons! It's not like space on the Mudcat kills a tree or tortures a puppy or something. There are so many valuable threads that the BS that is really BS just doesn't measure up.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 12:27 PM

Bugsy...is that you? naaaawwwww...I suppose it's not

(guest, college is supposed to be about 'education', too...all those students doing anything else should be removed!)


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 11:41 AM

This thread and several others should be removed from the forum. Mudcat Cafe is supposed to be about music. Enough with the BS. Stop feeding into it.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 05:00 AM

Why are most mudcats heterosexual?

Because it's traditional.

Wassail! V


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 02:58 AM

Bugsy...
that's exactly what I was about to post...I really wanted to start a new thread called "Don't Post to this!!!" but I knew I'd be branded a troll.
Anyway - I don't really want you guys to stop - you're all so funny when you're angry!
(yes, I go to the music threads as well. These are my comics. luv ya still
Hilary


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bugsy
Date: 16 Jul 00 - 12:56 AM

I love it when people keep coming on these threads saying "Don't post and they will just die" Then someone else says, "Yes I agree, If we don't post to these threads They will just fizzle out." Then someone else posts saying. "Posting on these threads just adds fuel to the fire."

Doesn't it remind you of being in a folk club when someone is whispering to someone in the back and the rest of the audience in unison all go "SHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!" at at least 10 times the volume of the person doing the whispering?

Just tickles my funny bone I suppose.

Cheers

Bugsy.

Oh, and Why are we mostly male? Why are we mostly Hetrosexual???

Who gives a toss!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,catspaw69 (no relation to the other guy)
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 11:32 PM

Hey, can we have a gay club at Mudact?


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Terry Allan Hall
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 10:32 PM

(Several messages ago)

Hell, I want Spaw to go party with me 'n' the Missus! Inuit strippers rock! ;o)


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: SDShad
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 10:23 PM

I dunno, Lenny. I spent a lot of time fishing for mudcat in the Zumbro River in MN as a kid, but I wasn't really privy to their sexual goings-on. Mostly when I saw them, they were just going tug-tug, flop-flop. In answer to your question, I'd say it's so they can spawn.

Mudcatters? Haven't a clue. Don't really care one way or t'other. Life's rich pageant, and all that.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 10:20 PM

Just don't give them the reps names........

Spaw (LMAO)


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 09:57 PM

right here.....

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Production:
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Youngsters' autumn and spring jumpers. Acrylan.
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yarn, wool mixture, mixed.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: RichM
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 07:25 PM

Catspaw said
Personally, I am proud to admit that I'm a bald, Rogaine-using, mutated Ubanganese, Satanic converted, cross dressing, tri-sexual, with a passion for Armenian pants salesmen and Innuit strippers.

I hope this answers all further questions.

Spaw

Well no, there is still one question:
Where can I buy Armenian pants?

Rich


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 05:41 PM

Dear Mudcat Closet,

Don't know how long you've been around here and it really doesn't need to be known, but in case you missed it, there is a lengthy thread which may be of interest, here.

Not hard to understand why you felt safer posting anonymously, but please remember the majority of Mudcatters are supportive and open-minded.

All the best,

kat


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 05:30 PM

can't say I blame you, closet...it is always safest to be careful. Too bad, but that's the way of it.

(at a gathering I attend a lot, a nice guy who had been coming there for YEARS finally decided to come out of the closet and bring his partner ....well, the biggest issue was that the partner didn't DO folk music and was sort of bored....the rest of us just went.."hmmm...I guess I'm not really surprised"...and asked for another song. But here, with anonymous postings, it could be different.)


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Biskit
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 05:22 PM

I'm southbound mama, baby I'm comin'home to you you'd better tell that other man baby thats what I'm gonna do.....notice the reference to mama/man It just wouldn't flow if Duane was singing that to Leon. peace-Biskit- .ps Knock off the stupid s*#t!


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,the mudcat closet
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 05:11 PM

i've deleted my cookie so that i could post as a guest and say that there are gays and lesbians at mudcat. i am one and i know of several others. for myself, i've chosen to remain in the closet because there are some very intolerant people at mudcat and i'd just as soon not have to deal with that.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,George
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 03:40 PM

Are most mudcatters heterosexual? I hadn't noticed. It wouldn't be surprising though, because most people are heterosexual, and so are most animals! On the other hand, what difference does it make anyway? I don't particularly care whether or not someone is heterosexual, homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, asexual, or whatever. Why should anyone care? It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned, because this world is big enough for all of us. I think that as long as it remains a fact that most people are by choice heterosexual you will find that most mudcatters will be heterosexual. This is no real cause for concern. We are all brothers and sisters regardless.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 03:38 PM

oops, slip of the digit there - to continue....

STOP POSTING THE F**KING THINGS!

And please find something better to do with OUR time.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 03:36 PM

If you want to stop stupid and provactive threads on Mudcat, ignore them. As long as they get a rise, they'll keep appearing.

My suggestion would be that if you want to stop stupid and provocative threads,


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 02:58 PM

As far as people replying to stupid statements, you didn't have to prove that. Somebody wanna refresh the "condom" thread? Nope? OK.

Fact is, sometimes people think something's a valid topic even if others don't. Some people try to see the possiblities for good in "stupid and provocative" messages, and try to find an angle to enter the discussion without engaging in a flame war. Even things that start off as trolls can wind up being good discussions. You managed to prove something you weren't trying to prove - sometimes we do actually take messages at face value and don't read ulterior motives into them. I don't plan to stop doing that, so if you want to post another manipulative message to prove a point, go right ahead. I'm not going to believe everyone's disingenuous because one person has been.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 02:54 PM

What are you Lenny, a complete goof? Hell man, this sucker could go 150 or more and have a part 2 or 3!! Nothing new........

back about a year and a half ago, ol' Art had had it with some stupid boilerplate threads and asked, "What kind of Condoms do Mudcatters Use" and that thing couldn't be stopped. Don't applaud yourself too much partner.....

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,Lenny
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 02:48 PM

I set the bait and get seven Mudcat bites in an hour.

I come back and admit that it was just bait.

I check back again after a couple of hours and there are eleven more bites.

Will there be fifty bites by tomorrow. Come on Mudcatters, I know you can't resist it.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 01:54 PM

because wo don't DO windows!


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: MarkS
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 01:37 PM

We should start a thread dedicated to left-handed Lithuanian window washers. They have never been properly represented on Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 01:06 PM

Well that's cute Bill....VERY GOOD!!! But actually I was referring to aliens from the planet Grzarbweert. Man, you talk about your wild ones...........whhhhooooooo-ddooggggggggiieesss!!!!!!!!!

Spaw (who isn't giving up his source for Armenian pants salemen)


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Morticia
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 01:04 PM

I stand by my statement ' Please find something better to do with your time'


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 01:00 PM

Lenny...it does little good to 'prove' that some will rise to silly bait in a text chat forum where no voice inflections and body language is available..all you prove is that people are different and have different levels of 'taking things seriously'....which I doubt is any surprise. The most you can do is cause MORE needless flames and learn a few interesting thins....(I suspected catspaw would like sheep, but didn't know he NAMED them *grin*)_

(oh, that tri-sexual thing, 'spaw...male sex, female sex, and IN-sex?)


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Gary T
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:53 PM

Actually, Spaw, it doesn't answer further questions so much as it inspires further questions--especially, where does one find Armenian pants salesmen these days? I haven't had any luck . . .


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: bbelle
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:53 PM

Because I like men?

This kind of stuff if going beyond the pale.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Bagpuss
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:48 PM

Sledge - are you also known by the name Eddie Izzard?.....

I normally just ignore trolls. The reason I replied was because - naive that I am - I thought you might be serious. You might really think what you were saying was equivalent to the previous thread. My reply pointed out the difference, thats all.

I try to give the benefit of the doubt wherever possible.

However, if you want to be branded as a troll and have everyone ignore posts written by you, then carry on "testing" your theory.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: sledge
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:43 PM

Lesbien trapped in a mans body.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:33 PM

......oh yeah, my sheep's name is Rhonda, but she is currently having an affair with Cleigh and Cletus so I'm also celibate at this moment.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,Lenny
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:33 PM

Provactive?

I meant to say provocative.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:32 PM

Personally, I am proud to admit that I'm a bald, Rogaine-using, mutated Ubanganese, Satanic converted, cross dressing, tri-sexual, with a passion for Armenian pants salesmen and Innuit strippers.

I hope this answers all further questions.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: GUEST,Lenny
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:28 PM

To tell you the truth, I started this thread to test a theory that you can start a thread with a stupid statement and there will be Mudcatters who instantly rise to the bait.

If you want to stop stupid and provactive threads on Mudcat, ignore them. As long as they get a rise, they'll keep appearing.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: flattop
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:27 PM

Race or sexual preference could be legitimate topics of civil discussion. Both turn up in folk music. As a man who feels that vaginas are the eighth wonder of the world, I'd be willing to discuss my views if anyone was interested.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:25 PM

Could it be possible that Lenny is just lampooning the white thread?


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 12:07 PM

Please define "gay music." Ironic that we've had threads about sexual preference, and no one has tried as hard to get people to stop talking as they do when race or ethnicity comes up.

When I meet Mudcatters or look at their picture, I can see what color they are and what race they appear to be. Unless they're wearing labels, I can't tell their sexual preference. I also can't tell a person's religion/belief system, their political leanings (although much has been said here), or whether they think meeting 100 or so Mudcatters and looking at pictures of a few more is enough to make a generalisation about the demographics of Mudcatters. (perhaps this sample is not representative of the whole.) It would have been more effective if you'd used "most Mudcatters don't use wheel chairs" or "most Mudcatters have brown eyes."

The question asked in the other thread seemed to be about why many in one ethnic group have not accepted music created by that group. I wonder what it is about the subject that makes people actively try to interrupt and/or halt communication. If you don't feel it's true that most Mudcatters are white, how about some reasons? There are loads of minorities here, and to my knowledge, merely saying a minority is a minority isn't prejudiced or mean-spirited.


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Subject: RE: Why are most mudcats heterosexual?
From: Morticia
Date: 15 Jul 00 - 11:46 AM

Oh God, here we go again......do you actually know that, Lenny or are you just jumping to a conclusion in order to facilitate yet another pointless row to get people all riled up for no good reason other than it serves your rather sad purposes? Peoples sexuality is their own business and there is no reason why they should advertise it in a forum such as this,and although I'm confidant few people would give a flying toss one way or another, in the main it is simply not relevant and there is no reason why it should be. Please find something better to do with your time.


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