BS: What do you call your bread?

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Penny S.
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:13 PM

My Mum used to pull the kissing crust of the side of batch loaves and eat it on the way home - those layers of bread where the loaves touched, that peel off really easily, and taste warm and soft from the oven....

I need a baker with a proper brick oven - NOW! I need a small farmhouse loaf, that I can eat a third of by itself, and a third with butter, and a third with butter and strawberry jam - NOW!

I should not have read this thread....

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Gypsy
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:06 PM

Anadama Bread
Water 1 1/3 cup
1 egg
1 tablespoon applesauce
1/2 cup molasses dark
salt 3/4 teaspoon
vital gluten 1/4 cup
cornmeal, 1/2 cup
whole wheat flour
yeast 2 to 3 teaspoons
Let rise 3 times

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 01:13 AM

It doesn't matter what I call mine, it won't come.

It just sits there and stares at me.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Firecat
Date: 22 Jan 01 - 10:35 AM

I usually call it plastic!

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Elise
Date: 22 Jan 01 - 03:04 AM

Fionn, Challah, as someone else mentioned nine million posts ago, is a rich egg bread, usually braided. It is the traditional bread eaten on Friday night for the Jewish Sabbath celebration.

The recipe I use is from a book called The Book of Jewish Food by C. Roden. It's a wonderful book. Besides giving recipes, it explains many things about the Jewish people. Good reading as well as good eating.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 08:23 PM

What's Challah, Elise, and where's it from? It sounds like the kind of stuff I like to experiment with. Any chance you could post a recipe?

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Elise
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 03:51 PM

Leftover Challah on Saturday morning (or afternoon, when I get up) makes the world's best French toast. Especially when I take the time to bake the bread myself on Friday! Challah takes all day, though. 6-8 hours of rising time, and worth every minute of it.

Pita bread is not unleavened. The pita recipe I have has you mix a sponge, which then sits overnight in the fridge. Good stuff.

No one should ever eat that crap they sell as white bread in the grocery store. Anything that keeps indefinitely shouldn't be ingested, probably. Especially if it claims to be bread.

I love this thread!

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Snuffy
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 06:53 AM

As long as you put "Add" in the header line, the harvesters should be able to find it. Sometimes I forget, then I have to go back and post a refresher with "Add" in it.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 07:53 PM

Thanks for explaining that, Snuffy. I've always thought the song harvesters must have a tough task. I'll try to remember to use the subject line if I'm posting lyrics. (I've noticed one or two people saying that lyrics have not got into the DT several months after they were posted. Might this be because no subject header was used?)

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 07:24 PM

This is really freaky...coz I once drove on the A6. Co-incidence city or what!!

Spot.(the x-files) dog

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jan 01 - 10:15 AM

Just spotted that mysen, Fionn - should have said I turned north up the A6 instead.

Anyway - how do you know I wanted a pudding? I may have wanted a tart after all.... *BG*

DtG

Subject: Obviously someone does
From: Snuffy
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 10:05 PM

Fionn

I wasn't challenging the wisdom of Max - the message header is a very useful device. Many people use it to draw the attention of the DT 'Harvesters' to lyric or tune additions to an existing thread.

I knew of its usefulness to the backroom boys (and girls) at Mudcat, I just wondered if any of us ordinary 'Catters really paid much attention to headers.

See the header to this post for my conclusions.

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 08:09 PM

Thanks for spelling it out Bernard *BG*

Dave, Bakewell is on the A6, but I've sussed out what you meant (helped by eventually realising we were going in opposite directions!). I got to Buxton about 3pm and Bakewell soon after that. I wouldn't want to have been in the town if you'd asked for a Bakewell tart though. They do say that if you call a pudding a tart in Bakewell....

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Bernard
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 04:16 PM

Eeh! Spot, did you know that 'Warburtons' spelt backwards is 'Snot rub raw'?

Dave and Fionn - what's the fastest cake in the world?

......scone!

(only works if you pronounce 'scone' like 'gone' - 's gone!)

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 02:35 PM

Ah - all is now clear - Thanks Fionn. I like the connection between hunger strikes and bread as well - just up my (silly sense of humour) street.

Serendipity or what? I was traveling from Nottingham to Manchester on Tuesday and decided to come up through Derbyshire (via Ashbourne - A515 and A6) instead of the boring old A50/M6. Passing the sign for Bakewell I was very tempted to go and buy a Bakewell Tart. Honest! But there the co-incidence ends - I decided to keep on the A6 and went through Buxton instead.

Perhaps the mudcatish vibes were traveling through the ether but not quite strong enough at the time. This was at about 2pm-ish btw - when were you there?

Twighlight zone noises - dedededededededede

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 02:26 PM

Gnomic Dave, you sound a decent spud, I liked what you said in the (related?!) thread about hunger strikes, and above all, you know how to pronounce "scone." On that basis I'll gladly entice you out from under the desk by explaining that each and every post has its own header. About 999 times in a thousand we all just accept the default when posting (which is the thread title). And whether we do or we don't, none of us read them, unless getting into the threads via the "new messages since last visit" quicklink).On the basis of which, Snuffy has chosen to challenge the wisdom of Max in laying on this so often spurned luxury.

More dangerous thread creep: On the way home from Crewe to Bilsthorpe on Tuesday, I paused in Bakewell to buy an original Bakewell pudding. Utterly disgusting of course, but I like to see these quaint traditions surviving.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 10:22 AM

larva bread also has fish eggs in it and other suspect wobbly things... They sells it in the tescos here in Cardiff they does.... And I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot barge pole, never mind call it a nice name.

yeuch!

Ella

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: CamiSu
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:27 AM

My brother tells me that the name of Anadama bread comes from when Anna's husband had to eat his sandwiches made from that heavy dark stuff, was heard to mutter "Anna, Damn ya". But it's real good with butter.

And how does one make flat Yorkshire Pud?

BTW a griddle is really good to make tortillas on and homemade flour 'tillas are sooooooo much better than the store bought kind.

CamiSu

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM

BoooHooo Sob - I'm totaly confused. I think I'll curl up in the foetal position under my desk until someone explains what the last 2 messages were about....

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:08 AM

No Snuffy, I obviously don't as I wondered what the heck Allan C was going on about...
I'll read 'em from now on though!
(Are people using the headers as some form of subliminal messaging...? It might just work!)

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:04 AM

Snuffy, many of us have two separate opportunities to read the headings. Lots of us have discovered the "New Messages Since Your Last Visit" in the Quick Links. In that listing the headers, rather than the thread title, show up. Of course, whether we get here through the NMSYLV or by way of the Main Forum Page, we still get to the same place. I don't know about everyone else, but I usually see the headers.

Subject: Does anybody read these message headers?
From: Snuffy
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 08:52 AM

Dinner was always at mid-day; lunch was the ketchup sandwiches that I took to school to eat at the mid-morning break with my 1/3 pint of free school milk; tea was the main evening meal; and supper was just a light snack later on (cocoa and bicuits or a jam butty, etc)

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Jock Morris
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 07:12 AM

When I were a sprog I used to go home at lunchtime for my dinner and then have my tea, the main meal of the day, when my Dad got home from work. Confusing isn't it:-)

Scott

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 04:46 AM

It is the colloquial names I started off with but the thread has been just as interesting anyway.

I agree dinner is always the main meal of the day, but what do you call it if you main meal is breakfast???

And if Spot thinks bread is called Warburtons his owners are too rich - at our house it's Aldi at 15p a loaf....

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:48 PM

You lot need to get out more often...bread comes from supermarkets and is called Warburtons around here. It's wrapped in airproof , waterproof and rot proof wrappings and is made with heavily bleached and very properly processed WHITE flour.

Plenty of preservatives to keep it soft and antioxidants to keep it from going off. Sorted!

Nine billion names of bread indeed!!

Spot

Subject: What do I call my bread?
From: Bernard
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:42 PM

E R I C !

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:32 PM

My husband has just said that the Royal family need to eat that much to soak up all the gin!

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:30 PM

In Coventry where I was brought up -a bread roll was a batch, lunch was at lunch time and dinner was an evening meal. If you had had a full lunch and not much of an evening meal you would have supper which was lighter ie soup or sandwiches around 8pm. When I was a child we used to have tea around 4 sandwiches cake etc and my parents ate their dinner later on. I read the Royal family have breakfast lunch high tea and dinner - no wonder they have so many clothes they must go up a dress size every year! Talk about Who ate all the pies!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Greyeyes
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:21 PM

Supper, of course, is if you have your dinner later than 9pm.

I've mentioned Wiltshire Lardy cake on a previous thread, but as it's dough based it is really a bread rather than a cake, sounds disgusting but is delicious.

Nobody's mentioned ginger bread yet, dark and sticky, best kept a few days before eating.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 01:40 PM

Dinner's the main meal of the day, whenever it takes place. Unless it's at teatime, in which case it's high tea.

So in the week it'd be dinner at lunchtime, and at weekend maybe it'd be dinner a bit later than teatime, on a Sunday anyway. And Christnmas Dinner is of course at lunchtime - except that it always falls behind schedule and ends up halfway to teatime. Lunch is what you pack in a lunchbox, if you aren't going to get a proper meal.

Confusion can arise when families with different understandings about such things - like when we had someone accept an invitatiion to Christmas Dinner under the impression it was in the evening.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:56 PM

hmmmmm... I'm late to the thread as usual.

We all know that bread comes in VERY many styles and shapes and consistancies in the world...but the interesting thing about this thread to me is just how fond the English, in particular, seem to be of finding quaint, folksy, colloquial, regional NAMES for things....some of which seem to have little or no relationship to the item. Bloomers, baps, balm cakes, darls, doshes and barmbacks simply don't register in my brain! *grin*

It is almost as if various regions and classes were using language as a way to identify themselves to each other, the way various regions in the USA do. Any feelings on this?

and I never WILL be able to identify a major meal as 'tea'.(People here argue constantly about when one eats 'lunch', 'dinner', 'supper'...etc., and often have their egos and identities involved, just as they do about how to pronounce 'tomato' and 'salmon'.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Bert
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:33 PM

Ah! memories. A loaf used to be a bloomer, farmhouse, tin or cottage. Now it's baguette, or pain de compagne.

Talking of Middle Eastern bread, how come no one has mentioned 'barbary'? A long flat loaf with ridges in it so that you get more crust, mmmmm. I make it occasionally, but it takes practise to get it right. You make a kind of flattish oval loaf about seven inches by four, and when it's raised you push it down with your knuckles to make four grooves along it's length, then you stretch it out to about 16 inches. and pop it in the oven.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:32 PM

My teachers always told me that Pie was 22/7, or 3.142^&(^&etc. Anyhow in Canada we have ENGLISH MUFFINS, which were new to me when I arrived here, after being born and spending the first 27 years of my life in England. They are about 3-4" in Diameter and about 3/4- 1" thick packaged in packs of 4 or 6. They are "forksplit", which means that they are cut almost into 2 pieces and are made of sawdust. At least that's what it tastes like. They also sell "Scottish BAPS" of which I am not qualified to comment coming from Manchester. No mention of Parkin yet either, I guess that is a bit more of a cake. JohnB

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Troll
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:22 PM

KimC, I've never tried blue cornmeal. Don't know if we can get it here in Fla. If I can find some, I'll sure try it.
DtG, your Gram's bread pudding sounds like the description of T.Pratchetts "Ankh Morpork Clootie Dumplings" which lay on the tongue like the lightest merengue, and on the stomach like a concrete bowling ball.
And then there's Dwarf Bread, made of the finest grit and useful as lunch or as a weapon.
Pratchett RULES!

troll

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: VickiS
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:08 PM

In addition to regular bread, we also eat tortillas. A flat foldable bread made out of either corn or wheat. A fine addition from the Spanish part of the American West's culture. (Although I understand that in Spain, unlike in Mexico, a tortilla is an omelet.) If you like crunch, you can fry the tortilla before putting the fillings in or on. Traditional fillings are spicy ground cooked meat with cheese, lettuce and tomatoes. Or beans and rice.

Bagels: a small tube of dough is curved so the ends join, making a circle about 5 inches across with a hole in the middle. The dough is supposedly first boiled and then baked. Usually served with cream cheese and lox. Associated with Jews and New York. Usually eaten in the morning or at noon.

Donuts: the same shape as above, but formed by cutting the hole out of the middle of a circle of dough. Always fried and very sweet. Frequently topped with sugar, sugar glaze, frosting, sprikles or chocolate. Famous food for police officers in the US. Another morning food.

Pita: Mediterraneun/Middle Eastern style flat bread.

Muffins: small sweet breads often eaten for breakfast. Cooked in circular pans about 3 inches across. Usually 6 or 12 circles in a "muffin tin." While they can be bought at stores or bakeries, this is the bread only bread in this post I make at home.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 09:47 AM

I agree with McGraths theory on Yorkshire puds - but then again I am a Lancashire heathen! My granny used to make a large, flat, stodgy YP in a roasting tin, fill it with hot baked beans, cover it with grated cheese and then grill it so the cheese melted. Good cheap midweek meal!

She also made a mean bread pud - not bread and butter pud with individual slices of bread but again a soggy mass made by crumbing the old bread, soaking the crumbs in milk, mixing in dried fruit, spices etc and then baking it. Lay on yer tum like a lead weight but could sustain you through 3 days down't'pit ....;-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Kim C
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 09:46 AM

Troll, I make cornbread from scratch in my iron skillet! Ever used blue cornmeal? Awesome! I will admit to using cornbread in a box once in a while, though - it's cheap and works great after a long day at work when you don't feel like washing a bunch of mixing bowls. :)

I also like to make hoecakes - cornmeal, an egg, a little milk. Fry em up in the skillet. Yum!

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 09:13 AM

Does Yorkshire Pudding count as bread? I still prefer the way we had it, which was flat and stodgy and glutinous instead of fluffy and risen, like they say it's supposed to be.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 08:39 AM

there are at least 400 recipes for anadama bread on the net. one of them is here

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Troll
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 08:19 AM

Larry, Challa is an egg bread that is traditionally eaten on Shabes(the Sabath) by observant Jews. It is braided prior to baking and it makes the BEST toast ever with butter and strawberry jam.
That's from the Memsahibs side of the family.
From mine, cornbread, and I don't mean that crap mix they sell that has sugar in it and no texture and tastes like sawdust.
I mean real cornbread, made of stone-ground meal and baked in the oven in an iron skillet.
If you want some REALLY fine cornbread, save the grease next time you cook a goose ( sorry all you vegans) and use that instead of vegetable oil. You won't regret it.
We call corn sticks "pones".

troll

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 06:52 AM

Just stun it with a rolling pin Banjer, and it won't run off again. ;-)
One of the happiest days I had recently was when I discovered you can buy soda farls in Bristol. Obviously I don't get out much... I still have to make my own potato bread though.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Banjer
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 06:35 AM

It's not so much WHAT you call your bread as it is HOW you call it. I have found that a simple 'Here Bread, Bread, Bread doesn't work well. Usually I find you have to sneak up on it and grab it when it's not looking.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: GUEST,Toogan
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:51 AM

And what about dough boys in Australia? Made of dough (surpise!) wrapped around a strong twig from a gum tree and cooked over the camp fire. Slide them off the stick, and fill with golden syrup. Serve with billy tea and lean back and look at the Milky Way and the Southern Cross. Heaven on a stick!! Then we have lamingtons, and pavs (pavlovas), and pikelets (sort of small pancakes served with butter, strawberry jam and cream), and butterfly cakes, and wine trifle, and chocolate crackles and white christmas and heavenly hash ...........

Yum yum.

And the word "dosh" comes India. And all the above is made by the hugs and kisses (the misses {wife})

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 04:53 AM

Talking of furin' breads, I found one in Safeways the other day called Anadama (Or something similar) from the US of A - very nice it was too. Moistened with molases but not too sweet - very odd shape - any of you statesiders got a recipe?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Snuffy
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:17 PM

And what about all the foreign breads that have gained popularity in Britain in recent years?

Ciabatta and crissini(sp?), nans, chapatis, pittas.

BTW I have an old Victorian cookbook with a recipe for Yorkshire Pie Clates which I assume to be pikelets. Anyone else heard of pie clates?

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: blt
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:06 PM

There's fry bread, which is basically fried bread, the recipe varies depending on who taught you to make it (I was taught by a woman from the Cheyenne River reservation in South Dakota, so yeast, lots of Crisco, white flour, some sugar, pinch of salt, fry it up and eat with lots of butter and wos'api (choke cherry jam).

Then there's New England brown bread, which my grandma made in an old Maxwell House coffee can, but I don't know how.

blt

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Stewie
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 07:01 PM

In Oz, the bread shapes into which you put ham and salad, hamburgers, hotdogs etc are called rolls, not buns. Buns are sweet things with icing, cream, currants, jam etc.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Banjer
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 06:51 PM

Well' since 'Spaw seems to be absent from this thread I will attempt to stand in his stead....Kim C is absolutely right in her description of biscuits and rolls. The rolls generaly have yeast in them and the biscuits don't. My high school math teacher was a poor old gal from north of the Mason Dixon line and she didn't know squat....Nice lady, but dumber than a box of rocks. She kept tryin' to teach us that Pie are square, tain't so, Miss Campbell, pie are ROUND, cornbread are square. Never could convince her of that....And for those inquiring minds that asked, buns are what you sit on whilst eating your biscuits or cornbread...Unnerstan' now?

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: InOBU
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 06:36 PM

Yup, Kev... two nn in Bannock, but not oatmeal anymore in Quebec's forrests. Cheers, Larry

Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread?
From: Giac
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 06:05 PM

Ya'll are starvin' me to death!

Think I'l go make a dodger of cornbread. Heat up the oven, put a little grease in an iron skillet, get the skillet hot, throw in a little plain cornmeal, put it back in the oven til the cornmeal browns, then pour in the batter. That's popcornbread. Lots of butter on it. And no sugar in cornbread, please.

For breakfast or supper, I like those big old cathead biscuits, with butter, and maybe some sorghum molasses or red clover honey.

Gaaaaak, I'm drowning in drool.