Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'

Subject: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: GUEST,Claire
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 12:48 PM

I read somewhere that Thomas Moore wrote lyrics to the old tune "Slane", the same tune used in "Lord of Faithfulness" (at least I think that's the title?). I cannot find a copy of Moore's "Old Irish Melodies" and whenever I search on the web although I can find many of his compositions it never tells me which one is set to "Slane"! Does anyone know? I would really appreciate some help.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 02:09 PM

No such Irish tune known to 1866. Nor are any of Moore's songs in the 10 parts of 'A Selection of Irish Melodies' set to a 'Slainte'.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 02:11 PM

Could it be this one ?
click on the first word melody to hear a midi

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 02:18 PM

slane
perhaps not

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 02:48 PM

That last (click-on) 'slane' appears as "With my love on the road" in Joyce's 'Old Irish Folk Music and Songs", #323.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 02:50 PM

PS, note that it is actually 3/4, not 4/4.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: masato sakurai
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 03:32 PM

SLANE (the same as Roger's link) is a tune name used in hymnals. Hymns Ancient and Modern (New Standard) (1983) says it is "Irish traditional melody." To this, "Be Thou My Vision" (tr. by Mary Byrne; versified by Eleanor H.Hull) is usually set. For its words and MIDI, click here.

Whether Thomas Moore wrote a poem to this tune or not, I do not know. I have a copy of Irish Melodies, new edition (Longmans, Green, and Comapny, 1873), but cannot find it either. Moore's Irish Melodies sites are here and here.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 03:32 PM

Slane (Be Thou My Vision)

Unfortunately the embedded midi link isn't working right now

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 03:40 PM

The tune is also used for The Banks of the Bann (with midi).

Mind, I'm not suggesting that Tom Moore wrote that. I've always assumed that this is where the hymn writers found the tune.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: GUEST,RiS
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 03:52 PM

Now looking through Masatos link and put together with McGraths

How about this?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 04:02 PM

except the tune is different?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 04:08 PM

It is.

The Slane tune is the kind that Moore would have liked I think, if he'd ever came across it. It's got that air of cheerful melancholy he seemed to favour, and a stately quality.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Thomas Moore's lyrics to 'Slane'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 04:09 PM

When I said "it is" then I was agreeing that the Banks of Banna is not the same tune as the Banks of the Bann.