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Subject: BS: Fightin' words... From: Bobert Date: 10 Sep 03 - 09:19 PM Well, I was doing some mindless carpentry this afternoon an' for reasons well beyond my ability to comprehend I was thinkin' of a phrase from the 50's that would get yer butt in a fist fight faster than greesed lightnin: "Tighten up, Apple"!?!?!?!?...... Well, I never knew what that meant other than after it was uttered a fist fight would break out.... So, Iz curious as to what words did the same in yer hood.... Well, not terribly curiuos, but curious.... And does anyone know what "Buck 6" means, while were on the subject? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 10 Sep 03 - 09:45 PM Sorry, but I can't think of any. Most of our fightin' was done as play, 'cept when my brothers and me would have at it. Later on, when we got to *know* how to fight, we dassn't for fear of killin' someone, and I mean exactly that. Only fight I was ever in in High School ended up in the gym with a teacher watchin' to make sure we didn't really hurt each other. The other guy was on the wrasslin' squad and I was on the chess team. He figgered that it would be simple and easy, but I had a surprise: my brothers and me had been studying jiu-jitsu together, tossin' each other around the yard, for over a year. So we got down in the approved wrasslin' position (greco-roman stuff, not WWF) and before you could spit he was flat on his back from a sweeping calf throw. So we did it again, and this time he was down even faster, from an arm throw I can do but not explain in words. One last time, and an really nice over-the-shoulder throw. He was gettin' mad, makin' mistakes, forcing me to hurry, and it's a good thing the teacher stopped it there and made us shake hands, 'cause I could have really hurt him if he hurried me too much. Later on, in the Army, I taught hand-to-hand combat for a bit, and THERE we who taught it never even fooled around in the barracks for fear of crippling or killing someone. I still walk away from words, and won't fight unless me or mine are physically assaulted -- and then I might, quite literally, kill you deader'n a stump. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: mack/misophist Date: 10 Sep 03 - 11:23 PM Rapaire reminded me of something I saw long ago. In a crowded bar, a big drunk bosun's mate decided to pick a fight with some little guy. When the bos'un pounded him over the head, the little guy slid off his stool and grabbed the bos'un's arm. Just then his foot slipped in a puddle of beer and instead of throwing the drunk across the room he threw him into an iron pillar. Compound fracture, right arm. The little guy was in tears because it was an accident and he'd never hurt any one before. Lesson? Don't fight. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: leprechaun Date: 10 Sep 03 - 11:25 PM Well I got on a bus today and waited till it was pretty full. Then I stood up and flexed my muscles and yelled "Tighen up, Apple!" Much to my dismay, nobody even took notice. Nothin' fun ever happens to me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 11 Sep 03 - 12:01 AM Dunno. I never got in fights to speak of. But there was a whole subset of kids at our school for whom fighting was the thing. I believe we called them the "FFA" for "Future Felons of America". I'm sure they used some slang that I just wasn't in on and a bunch of it probably had to do with fighting. I was part of the "AB Honor Roll Kids on the Slide Toward Hippiedom" subset and we had our own slang, mostly about off-the-wall stuff, not fighting. Bruce |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Sep 03 - 12:10 AM Lately in NASCAR I think even "Hi" will get a fight started. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Sorcha Date: 11 Sep 03 - 12:14 AM Well, 'Tighten up' thing might refer to homsexual anal sex, but I don't know for sure. I don't fight, and never have, but it seems a reasonable guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: kendall Date: 11 Sep 03 - 03:16 AM I can passively resist any man in the place. When I was a boy, to say, "You wanna back that up"?, was fightin' words. Marty Robbins sang a song titled MR. SHORTY. A good example of what can happen if you equate size with ability. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: C-flat Date: 11 Sep 03 - 05:27 AM You lookin' at ME?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 11 Sep 03 - 08:48 AM "'ey, you lookin' at ME? You wanna piece of me, huh?" "Oh, yes, please, you're sooooooo cute." Brings to mind a real event. Army barracks, wakeup time. Bob is sleeping through the racket of others, as he always does, when the Sergeant walks into the squad bay. "BOB! Outa that sack!" "Mmmmfff." "Come on, up and at 'em. Drop your cock and grab your socks! Up Up Up!" "Eat me, Sarge." The Sarge sits down on the foot of Bob's bed. All eyes are on this little drama. And the three-striper speaks, gently. "Oh, Bob, for so long...I've wanted...and I didn't know you felt the same. Oh, Bob, there's just one thing, though...." Bob, thoroughly alarmed, is sitting up in bed, drawing away towards the head of the bed. "Ah, yeah, Sarge? What's that?" Standing up, the Sergeant took a couple of steps towards the head of the bed, his hand in his pocket. "Bob, Bob, Bob. I DON'T EAT RAW MEAT!" And he tossed a lit Zippo lighter onto the blankets covering Bob's crotch. The lighter went out before it hit the blankets. Bob was out, too. He didn't sleep in again, either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Deckman Date: 11 Sep 03 - 08:53 AM Hey! I remember THAT sargent. Big sucker, wasn't he! Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Sep 03 - 10:10 PM I have never heard the phrase "Tighten up, Apple!", but I suspect Sorcha is on the right track. "Get bent!" was a favourite insult at my school, and I think it had to to with anal sex too, but I'm not absolutely sure. It was merely a casual insult, though, not the precursor to a fight. There was a subculture of stupid or rough guys at my school who got into a lot of fights...usually after school at some prearranged location. I'd say they comprised about 10% of the male students, and they were mostly either rough farm kids with dysfunctional families...or rough town kids with dysfunctional families. God knows what became of them, but their prospects did not look good. When a guy was known as a fighter, he felt obliged to keep up his reputation by getting into (and winning) more fights. It was a primitive honour system of sorts. Sort of like extracurricular courses for idiots... I figure more than a few of these guys ended up in the armed forces, or jail, or both. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 11 Sep 03 - 10:30 PM Thing is, LH, the Armed Forces no longer really wants idiots who only want to fight. As a lieutenant colonel I was talked with recently said, "The Army isn't about to entrust a weapons system, or even a rifle, to a guy who can't figure out how to pick his nose unless he has help." ALL of the US Armed Forces now require at least a high school diploma or GED. Drop out, and you can't even get into the Marines. Once saw a big old farmboy, your stereotypical clod, go hand-to-hand with a little city boy who happened to have a judo black belt. Farmboy damned near tossed the little guy over the roof. Then, when the farmboy was feeling nine feet tall and covered with hair, a five foot five inch feller disillusioned him. Seems like the 5-5 guy was the first little guy's friend, and was slated for advanced training as a hand-to-hand combat instructor, since he held black belts in both Taekwondo AND Kungfu.... Ever notice that those who CAN never boast of it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Bobert Date: 11 Sep 03 - 10:50 PM Well, danged, Little Hawk, I (very unfortunately) was a brawler and last duked it out with my senior high school roomie in military school, Phil Walker back 'round '65. Since, Iz been a peacenic, other than doing a little karate 'bout 10 years ago... So, not all them kids went bad... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Midchuck Date: 12 Sep 03 - 08:06 AM I, myself, have mastered the ancient martial art of Run Fu... It's been very useful to me. Peter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: alanabit Date: 12 Sep 03 - 09:01 AM Well said Peter. I don't know what the statistics say, but I am sure we cowards live longer! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 12 Sep 03 - 09:38 AM "Better," the man said, "to be a dead lion than a live jackal. Better still is to be a live lion, and it's usually easier." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Dave the Gnome Date: 12 Sep 03 - 10:06 AM 'You talking to me or chewing a brick?' Was fighting talk when we were kids. Never realy understood it until a couple of years ago someone completed the phrase. '... either way your going to loose your teeth!' I am going to teach my latest martial art to anyone interested. Kung Shui. The art of arranging furniture so your enemies fall over it. Only £50 a session. Anyone up for it? Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Amos Date: 12 Sep 03 - 10:17 AM LOL!!!! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: GUEST Date: 12 Sep 03 - 02:41 PM Loved it..thank you DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: LadyJean Date: 12 Sep 03 - 10:59 PM My dad was one of the two biggest kids in Fulton School. Somebody got the brigh idea of getting him to fight the other biggest kid in school by telling each of them, Bruce/Billy, Billy/Bruce says he can lick you. They had a semi-proper boxing match behind the school. Billy was African American, and schoolboy lore of the time taught that African Americans skulls were so hard that if you hit an African American on the head, you'd hurt your hand. It's racist claptrap, but you take your advantages where you find them. Billy lead with the top of his head. Dad was taking the worst of it, until a baker, who was watching the fight shouted "upper cut!" Dad took the hint, and knocked Billy down. That settled the thing. There was no malice between them. Billy was Billy Eckstein and dad was one of his biggest fans. Eckstein was 6'7. Dad was only 6'0. Early growth spurts run in our family. I was one of the biggest kids in school too. But nobody ever had to fight me. Being a girl has it's advantages. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: leprechaun Date: 12 Sep 03 - 11:07 PM My Puerto Rican buddy is an expert in Judono. Judono if he's got a knife, judono if he's got a gun... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Matt_R Date: 13 Sep 03 - 10:37 AM I was watching a rerun of Saturday Night Live yesterday, with Conan O'Brien as guest. He was in this hilarious sketch where he played George "The Gentleman Masher" Concoran, an Irish boxer who supposedly ruled the ring from 1912-1914, in a spoof of an episode of ESPN Classic. Chris Parnell as announcer said "There is good evidence to show that George Concoran may have been the first trash-talker in sports." Simulated old footage had ol' George issuing his fightin' words: "I'll put corn in his muffin!" "I shall encrimson his face. Then I shall land him a blow in the mouth region, from which the blood will flow forth quite copiously!" "I'll baste your turkey!" and my favorite: "I'll butter his bean and serve it to him cold!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Sep 03 - 12:35 PM In Mexico it was the phrase "Tu madre..." with anything else added to it. It means "Your mother..." Fight absolutely guaranteed. Insulting people's sisters was quite dangerous too. I saw more fights in 3 months in Mexico (all between local Mexican youths, not visitors) than I did in North America in 10 years. Most of those fights occurred in the evening at dances and such events, when the chicos were out cruising and looking for girls. Mexican boys are mean fighters. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 13 Sep 03 - 04:22 PM Hola, Little Hawk! Tu madre es su madre! Waddaya gonna do about it, huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Amos Date: 13 Sep 03 - 04:51 PM Tu madre es su padre, cabron. Oh, sorry -- wrong thread!! :>) I once wrote a song for friends in Mexico the opening line of which was "Ai, cabronita! Los pinches pendejos!" The translation of which I leave as an exercise to the aspiring student. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Sep 03 - 06:10 PM Vayase al diablo, Rapaire! Tu eres un hijo de la enchilada vergonzosa! Tu madre es la chingadera principal de toda la provincia! Come mierda, idiota! - LH p.s. I tried to get my Mexican friends to explain the meaning of the phrase "Pinche Cabron!" to me, but they either couldn't or wouldn't. I believe a cabron is a goat, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 13 Sep 03 - 07:31 PM [sniff] [snivel] [sniff] [wipes nose with index finger] You, you, you...your dog has great big fleas! Tu perro esta uno perro longo! Y su perro esta perro caliente! So there! (Long around two a.m. I'll think of some more....) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 13 Sep 03 - 07:42 PM Y, Little Hawk, silencio! No puede esciar in caga! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Amos Date: 13 Sep 03 - 10:48 PM Pinche usually means "bedamned" or something near to that. Yes, Cabron is goat, LH, but contextually it is closer to "M'F'ing SOB" -- it is a cultural thing. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: alanabit Date: 14 Sep 03 - 04:04 AM It's amazing what useful things you can learn on Mudcat! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Alaska Mike Date: 14 Sep 03 - 06:14 PM You never know when these linguistic lesson are going to come in handy. Let me write this down......... Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Sep 03 - 08:33 PM What? Well, of course he's a long dog, Rapaire, he's a dachshund! And he does get hot in the summertime. Look, if you're going to get personal, I am just going to have to take the gloves off here! Si mi perro tuviera una cara como el tuyo, yo afeitaría sus cuartos traseros y le obligaría a que caminara al revés. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Sep 03 - 08:55 PM Well, well, oh yeah? (upside down question mark goes here)Desire Usted una cerveza? Huh? Wadda ya got to say to THAT, huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fightin' words... From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Sep 03 - 09:07 PM Una cerveza would taste good right now. Ever see the Furry Freak Brothers in the episode where they went to Mexico and met Don Longjuan? - LH |
