BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 04:08 AM

Interest in Errol and his thing seems to on the wane, and I never did get an answer to the original question. I think it highly probable that nobody knows. Its one of them things, we'll never know. Did Hollywood sanction his flashing, or just not notice....?

However I am cheered by the fact that Mrs Custer has at last been unmasked as the murderer, and that an indeterminate number of terribly attractive Indians in their tough combat loin cloths have had their names cleared of this heinous act.

Justice has been a long time coming.

A fair precis.....?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 09:10 AM

They couldn't run away. And neither could Georgey-Porgy when the Sioux finished with him.

Did you ever see the Gary Larson cartoon, "Custer's Last View"? Just a view upwards to ring of grinning Indians....

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 08:59 AM

"Georgy Porgy "

Not suitable - the girls didn't run away!

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Shambles
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 03:09 AM

Why do we now appear to be on first-name terms with such a man?

What next - Georgy Porgy or just G?

Custer will do just fine.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 11:05 PM

This is sounding more and more like the lives of Penelope Rutledge and Winston Wellington-Jones with every succeeding post...

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: number 6
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 04:57 PM

Actually Libbie was not so faithful to George as one would beleive ... she was had a sizzling affair with a Trooper Elijah Johnson, who was well known around the 7th Calvary as having a very large appendage (so to speak). George having found out about this illicit affair between Trooper Johnson and his beloved wife chased him out of the army. In doing so George actually (in all probability) spared Elijah's life. Though Elijah was not heard from again, and his whereabouts where never known ... he did leave behind a legacy that still is here today ... and that is what people jokingly refer to a large willy as a Big Johnson.

True story.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 04:37 PM

Oh, well, he was true to her in the "Custer" fashion...meaning, true, but not exclusively true. ;-P

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 03:11 PM

Ahem. All seriousness aside, I am currently (re-)reading Dee Brown's Wonderous Times On The Frontier. In it, he tells of the "hunting" trip of the Grand Duke Alexi of Russia. Seems like the Duke wanted to see Indians as well as shoot buffalo, so ol' Phil Sheridan told some of the fellas out west not only to set up a (very luxurious) camp for the Duke, but to get Spotted Tail to bring about 100 warriors there too. Naturally, G. A. Custer was one of those who was to help the Duke shoot buffs.

Well, Spotted Tail brought more than 100 of the Brule Sioux -- he brought their families as well. Including his own wife and daughter, Red Road.

Custer and the Duke took a shine to Red Road, but Custer had the inside track, knowing sign language and all. At one point, a newspaper reported that ol' George asked Red Road if he could put her earrings in her ears. She assented, and Custer took quite some time doing it -- and to do so he had to wrap his arms around her. When he'd finished, according to the newspaper, Georgie stole a kiss from Red Road right in front of Spotted Tail.

Ol' George wasn't as true to Libby or anyone else as he would have led you to believe...except, of course, George A.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 02:03 PM

Ah - Russia's greatest love machine....Another Ripper suspect?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 09:21 PM

I told you, it wasn't Flynn's. It had orginally belonged to Grigori Efimovich Rasputin. Recent Freedom of Information Act document releases show that it passed into the hands of J. Edgar Hoover, who lent it to John Dillinger and after a little Lover's Tiff was retrieved by Hoover who gave it to Errol Flynn. Flynn gave it to almost everyone he could.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 09:08 PM

Foolestroupe, not to fear. You'll find this: I" agree, there's been too distraction on this thread - I think it's hish time that we all sunk our teeth into Rrrols Flynn's willy!" on April 15, 11:19.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 09:04 PM

What happened to my post bout getting back to sinking our teeth into Errol Flynn's Willy?

Could Shambles have a ... no!

MUST NOT THINK THAT!
MUST NOT THINK THAT!
MUST NOT THINK THAT!
MUST NOT THINK THAT!
MUST NOT THINK THAT!

BRAINWASHING CYCLE COMPLETE!

Ok, better now...

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 08:44 PM

Teribus' statement 13 Apr 06 - 11:43 PM re mass production:
"first ever example of assembly line mass production was solely the prerogative of a European mind, Portsmouth Dockyard to be precise."

The Romans did it first (at least according to survibibg documents!) - 16 waterwheels running 24 hours a day grinding flour in an automated plant that fed grain from hoppers... etc... many other such examples, also perhaps the traces of which have not yet been uncovered, many of the sites being under more recent settlement. A period Roman writer wrote 10 books on the machines of the period, including this = of course the books he based his work on, and many other records have been lost.

As the old song says - 'gets Tedius, don' it?'

Oh no - All hail Tedius Teribus!

Sorry, now I can't keep a straight face...

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 07:25 PM

and he keeps calling them plains indians.

I'm sure many were considered quite attractive.

a loin cloth does something for a man. Has anybody seen where I could get a tough army combat loincloth? If I can get the courage I should like to wear it for my holiday in Skegness next February. I'll be a sensation in Butlins.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Metchosin
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 05:21 PM

"Ebbie, up until my post of 15 Apr 06 - 08:43 PM I had treated everybody on this thread with the utmost respect."

Are you absolutely certain Teribus? I've highlighted some of the foul language in your 13 Apr 06 - 11:43 PM post to me, in response to my post of 13 Apr 06 - 10:13 PM. It could make some ladies blush. LOL.... And I have some further questions regarding your post.

Metchosin's question 13 Apr 06 - 10:13 PM:   
Do you think that Sir James Douglas owed his rise to prominence by some sort of genetic imperative primarily the result of his Scottish father? I don't. Why not suggest that his preeminence could have been the result of the amount of African genes supplied by his mother, if you believe in such stuff? And while you're pondering that, please note that good old Sir James' wife was the daughter of a Cree.

Teribus' response 13 Apr 06 - 11:43 PM:
Yes most certainly, it is a trait that you can discern right through the line of descent. By the bye, who ever you marry has got absolutely sweet fuck all to do with your own genetic make up - True? His wife could have been a pure bred budgerigar doesn't mean that the fucker could fly.

Did I suggest that his Irish/Cree wife's genes had anything to do with Sir James Douglas's prominence? Unless one believes the old saw about "behind every great man there is a woman..." Interesting conclusion to a fact I only included as it linked to plains Indians.

Why not include the genes of Sir James' mother Teribus?.. since you seem to ascribe a simplistic uber alles importance to the genes of ethnic groups? Perhaps Nelson Mandela might be flattered...but I rather doubt it. Only the genetic makeup of the sire of critical importance? I have a recollection of similar ideas eminating out of Nazi Germany not that long ago....oh, that's right....they weren't that keen on cross breeding.

Perhaps Sir James Douglas' rise to prominence was fueled by a burning desire to prove himself as equal or better than those about him, at a time when people were judged harshly on their ethnic origins...or perhaps he just happened to be around in a society that had few others about that could read and write well....or perhaps it was just blind luck.

Teribus' statement 13 Apr 06 - 11:43 PM re mass production:
"first ever example of assembly line mass production was solely the prerogative of a European mind, Portsmouth Dockyard to be precise."

The idea of mass production solely the prerogative of the European mind? Only to those whose ethnocentricity blinds them to other examples beyond their sadly limited powers of observation.

Metchosin statement of 13 Apr 06 - 10:13 PM:
I'd rather take my chances against a prairie winter at that time, with the provender supplied by the masters, than rely on the hunting expertise of some yob who'd once stalked a deer in the "old country". The North American prairie became littered with the sod huts of their failed aspirations and dreams, but don't let it gall you.

Teribus' response of 13 Apr 06 - 11:43 PM:
"I believe that I could give you a run for your your money in desert, ice or jungle. Metchosin you know precisely sweet fuck all about me"

Pray tell? You have lived in a sod hut recently?

Did I challenge you to some sort of currently popular extreme sport competition? LOL

And was my reference to "gall" a bit cryptic or is that what brought about the bad language ?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 04:52 PM

You're saying the Errol was always putting Willy to it, huh? Ol' Willy must have been able to cut the mustard some, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: heric
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:00 PM

Willy was a good friend who always stood up for Errol. He just never got a fair shake. Errol was always standing in his shadow, and other people thought he was big-headed.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:46 PM

I still want to know about Flynn's obviously "good friend", Willy.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: heric
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:32 PM

LH you don't want to see Charlton Heston painted brown and playing a Tijuana cop in Touch of Evil.

It would have been nice, however, to see him in a blond Custer wig.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:31 AM

Does anyone recall the enormous cannon that was the centrepiece of the move "The Pride and the Passion"? Well, rumor has it that that very cannon was modeled on none other than...Eroll Flynn's willy! Yes, the mightiest tool in the history of Hollywood lived on in the symbolic form of a fabled iron-hard instrument of war that was considerably longer than it was wide! It really is surprising that Sophia Loren fell for Carey Grant during the making of the film, considering what was sitting right there in front of her all the while...

She must have been blind.

If you get a chance, rent the film. It's worth seeing just to observe one of the worst miscastings in history: Frank Sinatra portraying a Napoleonic-era Spanish guerilla leader. His quasi-Spanish accent is dreadful and he is in no way convincing as the character "Miguel".

"By all accounts, Frank Sinatra was at his most obstreperous throughout the making of this film. Among other things, he refused to use the car supplied him by the studio, insisting upon having his Ford Thunderbird flown all the way to Spain at the studio's expense. In addition, he almost caused an international incident when he hung a banner from his hotel room window reading "Franco is a Fink", referring to Spain's dictator, Francisco Franco. In hindsight, Sinatra referred to the whole experience as "underwhelming".

Aren't we lucky that Frank Sinatra never got to portray General Custer in a movie....or Crazy Horse, for that matter?

The made-for-TV movie "Son of the Morning Star" is a very good film of Custer's life, adventures, and death, plus a good look at the Plains Indians he fought against.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:09 AM

not to mention Errol Flynn, this modest homage to his willy.....well it's been desecrated and shown scant respect.

You're an extremist; and all too inevitably, one is reminded of the worst excesses of the French revolution.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 01:56 AM

Teribus, you are a fool. You want to argue fine points with scholars who have the background and the resources and citations to either remember or to look up and report facts regarding the battle in question.

There can be various interpretations of any given event like this, but we're basing our conversation on the numerous accounts that we have read and the further research by natives, historians, and archaeologists in the field. The nonsense you're shoveling into the discussion has nothing to do with anything except your misinformation from who-knows-where and, as Little Hawk has observed, an obsessive need to be right even when you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.

You owe everyone here several apologies, but I for one won't be holding my breath waiting for them.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:56 PM

Indeed there is also a similarity between Teribus and the infamous MG of being unable to back off and quieten down once they step on somebody's toes....

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:36 PM

You just don't get it, Teribus. It is your obsessive need to argue with people endlessly and pedantically and go on and on and on and on about it at such incredible length trying to prove you are RIGHT and they are WRONG...it is that which eventually makes people angry enough that they start getting rude with you. It is simply beyond most people's endurance after awhile. You are an unusual case in that regard.

How many other people would receive the sort of response you have gotten from myself, Stilly, Foolestroupe, Mechosin, and various others? How many others get that sort of a response from us? Virtually none.

Doesn't that make you suspect it just might have something to do with you, not us?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:19 PM

weelittledrummer

I agree, there's been too distraction on this thread - I think it's hish time that we all sunk our teeth into Rrrols Flynn's willy!


ooooooo, er, ah... did I say that?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Teribus
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 09:40 PM

LWD, your thread?

Ebbie, up until my post of 15 Apr 06 - 08:43 PM I had treated everybody on this thread with the utmost respect. Foolestroupe called me to task without justification, and now you have on the strength of just one post. Where was your self righteous indignation during the ten posts personally attacking me. If those responsible deem that that is the way that discourse and discussion are carried on on this Forum then so be it, those individuals will find out that in those terms I can give as good as I get.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 09:13 PM

look you two want to argue about bloody crap that nobody bothered writing down at the time, cos nobody gave a sod even then - form your own thread.

this is my thread and its about Errol Flynn's willy

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 09:09 PM

I hope you routinely soap out your mouth, Teribus. Your mother didn't teach you to speak that way to women or to wise and gentle souls.

Not on subject but your talk about horses made me think of this song:

Scatter My Ashes
Buddy Tabor, Juneau, Alaska

A cowboy lay dying, his day almost done
He'd spent all his life 'neath Nevada's hot sun
His friends grouped about him to tell him goodbye
But his soft final words made them tough cowboys cry:

Won't you scatter my ashes where the mustangs run free
Them wild running horses mean freedom to me
Tear down your fences and let them herds be
Them wild running horses mean freedom to me.

In the sweet smell of sagebrush after a summer storm
Way up in Black Canyon them wild colts were born
But he never did chase them; it wasn't his style
And whenever he saw them it brought him a smile

Won't you scatter my ashes where the mustangs run free
Them wild running horses mean freedom to me
Tear down your fences and let them herds be
And whenever you see them, won't you please think of me

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Teribus
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:43 PM

Your Horses Metchosin and Rapaire - in Spain they would not have lasted one month. Now ask yourself the question, and I don't give a damn if you answer it her on this forum. Why was the wealth of a man counted by the number of horses he had? - Because he needed them. They had fuck all stamina, the Indian brave had to change horses many many times provided he had them, that is why the number was so important.

Now remember that they carried only a fraction of the weight a troopers horse would carry - for a troop of cavalry how many remounts used to accompany a cavalry patrol. Hint None.

Left to eat the grass he does Metchosin your horse would be blown in one day if you actually put him to work.

My last word on this thread goes to Metchosin, Stilly River Sage and to Little Hawk, who have proved that they are entirely incapable of carrying on a conversation outwith fawning sycophancy - the lot of you can go fuck yourselves. You are without doubt the most pig ignorant bunch of bastards that I have ever had the misfortune to come across.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:07 PM

Prairie grasses fed herds of millions of buffalo, antelope and other critters. They also fed lots of cattle and, in some cases, still do. The grasses are very nutritious.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:05 PM

probably is for us too, but I bet its a bit unsatisfactory

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:02 PM

The most natural food for horses IS grass, is it not?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:00 PM

Nah, it's just that I see 'em all the time out on the Sho-Ban Rez. Danged good horseflesh as a rule. And I know what the old timers said about Indian horses.

Cowboy horses were treated pretty much the same, only in the Winter they might eat hay cut from the wild grasses. Oats and other grains were very much sometime things.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Metchosin
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 06:17 PM

Thanks Rapaire, that's it in a nutshell. LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:23 PM

Teribus, the horses used by the American Indians were and are well known for their stamina and all-around toughness. And they ate grass pretty much exclusively during Spring, Summer and Fall. During the Winter they ate what they could get, including tree bark.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Metchosin
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:57 PM

"So the bay is only kept for recreational purposes, thought so, grass would for him, as a cavalry mount in Spain during the peninsular war he wouldn't have lasted one month the way you treat him."

Well you "thought" wrong Teribus, but then when has any deep thought entered into your assumptions. LOL! That bay you summarily dismissed just because I rode it, was not my own horse, nor was he a recreational mount. That particular thrifty animal earned his living week after week, at elevations and on terrain that would cripple or kill the average recreational lawn ornament in a day.

Be assured, that working pony was as tough and fit for his job as any of his ancestors, whether from the realm of the Hun, the peninsula of Spain or eventually full circle back to the Americas. Any horse that multiplied in the wild on this continent, that was not tough, of relatively small stature and also of prime importance, of a very efficient metabolism, did not survive the rigors of predation by wolves, grizzly and cougar, nor the regular onslaught of summer fire and winter blizzard.

The term "arrogant prat" is not meaningless, Teribus.

arrogant - making or implying unwarrantable claims to dignity, authority, or knowledge; aggressively conceited or haughty, or overbearing.

prat - one who behaves in an unintelligent way, especially when this causes exasperation or leads to time wasting.

That said, I apologize to you for calling you an arrogant prat. It would have been more appropriate on my part to have posted that the general tenure of your ideas, implied a claim to authority or knowledge in an aggressively conceited, haughty and overbearing manner, that is of a most exasperating and time wasting nature. However, feel free to call me the same if you wish . LOL Now regarding your use of the "F" word twice in a post directed at me.......hmmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:31 PM

I don't know the answer to your questions, Rap but I do know they traveled together. Make of that what you will.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:15 PM

But what about Errol Flynn's Willy? Was he killed with Custer? And if so, how did he ever meet Errol Flynn? And what, exactly, was the relationship between Errol Flynn and "his Willy"? And what was Willy's last name?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:47 PM

ah yes the spirit of Thomas Gradgrind

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:27 PM

LOL! What fun to read all those ad hominem attacks on Teribus again. Thank you for copying and pasting them, Teribus. I stand by most of mine, but I guess I should really not have said I "detest" you. That was insensitive. I admit that there are moments when I detest you, but mostly I am just irritated by you, so pardon me for having gone a bit too far that time.

By the way, I also mentioned that you could "bore the balls off a buffalo" somewhere back there...and I think it's worth being included on your list.

Foolestroupe's example of the similarity between your behaviour and that of Shambles' is right on the mark. You should print it out and attach it to your monitor as a reminder.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 10:17 AM

"Go back through the postings on this thread and show me where I have made any 'ad hominen' attack on anyone posting to this thread."

I don't remember saying that about either of The Terrible Twins!

But both are like a dog with a bone - both will worry it to death, and both will tend to bore stupid anyone within earshot who just wanted to have a light pleasant conversation, and maybe learn something. Shambles carries on about matters of 'opinion', Teribus about matters of 'fact'.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:52 AM

see I told you we'd start dicking about after lunch....

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:44 AM

we haven't got on to that yet.....we'working up to it, saving it for after lunch.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:08 AM

But what about Errol Flynn's willy?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Metchosin
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:44 AM

OK, Stilly's reason for cursing is settled.........but Teribus never explained why he was using bad words?

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 09:29 PM

This just in: Custer's last last words were "Ouch! Ouch! Oowee!"

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 09:27 PM

Shambles and Teribus - the Terrible Twins of Mudcat.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 08:14 PM

He probably said something a bit like that, all right. ;-)

In moments of extreme emergency "Shit!" is the most common expletive used by far, and this is confirmed by black box recordings from airplane crashes.

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 06:23 PM

Kenny, Custer's last words were actually, "Holy f*****g sh*t! Where'd all them Indians come from?"

Subject: RE: BS: Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 06:13 PM

Paternalistic is exactly what I meant. Treating the people you're discussing as if they are "childlike" situates you in a paternal position. My html was to get your attention, and my cursing was because you deserved it and I felt like it.

By the way, I stopped at that paragraph, I don't have time for your nonsense. I'm not reading any more of your posts, Teribus, so if you're writing for my benefit you're wasting your time. Your sources are not very good and your reasoning is nonexistent. Go waste somebody else's time.