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Henry Krinkle 27 Oct 12 - 08:48 PM
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Little Hawk 27 Oct 12 - 07:16 PM
McGrath of Harlow 27 Oct 12 - 06:37 PM
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gnu 27 Oct 12 - 06:02 PM
Bobert 27 Oct 12 - 05:28 PM
Henry Krinkle 27 Oct 12 - 03:21 PM
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Don Firth 27 Oct 12 - 02:54 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 27 Oct 12 - 01:18 PM
McGrath of Harlow 27 Oct 12 - 12:36 PM
Henry Krinkle 27 Oct 12 - 11:52 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:48 PM

Herman Cain was going to be the black Republican candidate for president. But sex scandal put an end to that.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:17 PM

and...

...100...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:16 PM

BTW, it isn't ***just*** here in the South... The Gallop Poll has just come out with a poll that indicates that 51% of white people confess to being prejudice when it comes to blacks... That is higher than any time in the last 30 years...

(Source: Washigton Post, today)

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:02 PM

I have lived all my life either in the South or West Virgina which is as redneck as you'll ever find...

If I had a dollar for every time I've heard the word "nigger" I would be a very rich man... I've seen the change in the language over the years because calling black folks "niggers" was out so an entire new vocabulary and narrative has been created that says "nigger" without saying "nigger"... It's all ***code talk***... We white Southerners all know it...

In various locations "nigger" has been replaced with local code talk... "Cheps" and "Boofers" are a couple... Hey, every racist who is trying to not sound like a 50s or 60 racists has his or her code names down... It's still "niggers"... Just different unflattering nouns...

The Republican Party has brought back the old "Welfare Cadillac" bullshit in the name of "Food Stamp President"... That is code talk for "Obama is a nigger and he's taking our money to give to other niggers"... This is 100% reality... We Southern boys know the deal...

I've tried to tell LH these things but he seems intent on playing the same old shit tune rather than take it upon himself to delve into what I'm know to be Southern reality... I mean, I like LH... He's really cool... But he also has an ignorant side that won't allow him to get beyond his default positions that, frankly, are the last war...

There is a reason why the South votes Republican... Lyndon Johnson explained it very well... He told us that in the Dems voting for the Civil Rights Act that it would suffer in the South for decades to come... Lyndon knew of what he said....

This ain't even arguable to anyone willing to push their default positions aside and say, "Sheet fire... There is something real stinky down South"... Yeah, there is... I have spent many an hour here going back years trying to ***educate*** folks on what I have grown up in... It is stinky... Very stinky... I understand it... I have gotten my ass kicked by rednecks for being a "nigger lover" (Google it up)... My mother got her ass kicked for it...

Ya'll say you don't understand it???

Fuck!!!

If ya'll don't understand it it ain't my fault... I have gone to the wall over and over and over trying to explain it... It's real as yesterday...

B~ (Southern born, Southern raised, Southern educated and Southern as Southern can be... Just not a racist...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 07:16 PM

Some of the Republicans' supporters are definitely against Obama partly because he's black, McGrath. I wouldn't be surprised if at least half of them felt that way. But they are MAINLY against him, first and foremost, because he's a Democrat! ;-) The fact that's he's "black" just gives them an additional reason to dislike him, that's all. I think that was Chongo's point.

Bobert, I do understand that you are confronted with extraordinary levels of racism (open or camouflaged) where you are living, and I can understand how much it troubles you. It's just not like that up here in Canada...or in most other places either. The USA has such a traumatic history in regards to black & white race relations that it's a whole different ballgame down there from what it is in most other places.

McGrath suggested an interesting possibility, one which I think we may yet see happen. What if the Republicans ran a black man or woman for president? They might do that if they had the right person and they thought they could win that way. A black woman Republican would be the ultimate candidate to cause the Left in America acute confusion.

What I mean is...a black candidate is a progressive's dream. A female candidate is a progressive's dream. Put the two together. Wow.

Now, the reason I mention this is, I knew a guy from Georgia a few years back. He was an interesting character, into various Hawaiian healing techniques. He was a nice guy, but way far to the Right, politically speaking. What he was really worried about was "big government", the Democrats supposedly being "soft on terrorism", and the creeping "perils" of socialism... ;-) These were all things he identified with the Democrats.

His political views seemed nonsensical in Canada, but I realized they seemed totally normal to him.

Now....he was quite dissatisfied with George Bush. This was during Bush's 1st term, as I recall. But you know who he thought would make the absolute best Republican president? Condoleeza Rice! That's right. This was a super rightwing Republican guy, a working class white guy, and he wanted Condoleeza Rice to be the next Republican president.

Don't think it ain't possible, Bobert. If the Republicans had the right black candidate and they thought that candidate could win, then THEY'D pretend to have the moral high ground, racially speaking, virtually all their traditional supporters would line up behind that candidate, and it would be the Democrats who would have the embarrassment of finding themselves attacking a black candidate...not over his or her color...but just because of the usual bipartisan reasons.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 06:37 PM

"Republicans would hate him just as much if he was all-white, but the half-black thing is one more handy aspect to the general approach of their supporters hatin' him,"

That seems to mean "Republicans" aren't particularly against Obama because he's black, but "their supporters" are. But surely when people talk about "Republicans" in this kind of context they primarily mean people who are "their supporters" rather than just the registered members of the Republican party?

Surely it can only be "a handy aspect" to Republicans on any definition if they don't really like the idea of a black president. Whereas, on this analysis,if the boot was on the other foot, and the Republican candidate was black - perhaps Colin Powell - that wouldn't be "a handy aspect" but a real problem for "all the white Democrats who want to see themselves as righteous defenders of racial equality"?... (Which in the light of the history of the Democratic Party over its first century or so is a pretty bizzare turnaround!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: bobad
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 06:25 PM

gnu, did you read my post of 11:46 AM?


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 06:25 PM

AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

By The Associated Press
27 October 2012

"...Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats) ..."

Of course that's a "cherry picked" extract, special for Krinkle since that's his favorite method.

Those who can read can go to the article to find the full findings, although they're not exactly encouraging even when examined in full. (The survey was performed by credible researchers, but they did try out an unconventional methodology that I'm not sure can be completely trusted without further proofs, so maybe only those who can read and think should bother with it.)

Maybe I can find another citation for the Krink to look at, but I'm sort of busy now.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: gnu
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 06:02 PM

Bobert... yer perspective is worth hearing. Just one caution. Guys like LH and me, even tho I can't speak for LH and I just assume he is like me in this case... I just can't wrap my head around that kinda shit. I wasn't brought up "that way" and I am sure most every Mudcatter wasn't brought up that way either BUT... in MY case, I never witnessed the shit that you talk about as a first hand witness. Seriously, man, it seems sooo unreal to me. I just cannot really grasp it at a gut level - I can only believe you... and I do.

BUT... ya gotta give LH and guys like me some slack and explain it with examples and support in the present. I know that sounds like a copout but it's the truth... I truly believe that most people, GOOD people, like LH, who haven't seen what you have seen first hand do not have your appreciation (odd term in this circumstance) of the situation.

Sorry, LH. I suppose I did overstep my boundaries but might there be a tiny bit of reality in my plea to Bobert to understand me... MAYBE you... too?

I wish I was a better wordsmith but if that ain't good enough... well... schenacadaie (there it is).

Bobert. Be cool, man. LH is a cool guy too. Ye fellers would jam tight.

Hehehehehee... I almost said, "Sho nuff would." >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 05:28 PM

Nah, LH... The level of hate aimed at Obama compared to Clinton makes the 90s look like Woodstock.... No one ever yelled "hang him" at Republican rallies in regards to Clinton... No one ever tried to shout Clinton down during a State of the Union Address... No one stood up in '92 and said that the Republican's #1 goal was to make Clinton a one term president... No Republican dominated Supreme Court stole either the '92 or '96 election...

As per usual on matters of reality, you pick your default position...

The reality is that the Republican have been pumping racist code talk into every discussion out there... The Washington Post wrote an article about this this week and found that there is more racial divide now than any time in the last 24 years... They pointed out thje very same things that I have pointed out...

Racism is in and camped out in the Republican Party... That is reality... Maybe you should read more, LH, and post less until you have a perspective that is more reality based 'cause yer beginning to sound like a '96 or '00 Nadar supporter who has just woke from a coma... Times have changed...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 03:21 PM

Regional bigotry much, Don?
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 02:55 PM

al-Obama seems like a really nice man. Just like Jimmy Carter. And they're both ineffectual. Sometimes you need a real stampeder and A-hole in there to shake things up. Hey!!! Is it too late for me to run???? Vote for Henry Krinkle!!!!!
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 02:54 PM

In the state of Alabamississipigeorgentucky, if a person is one-eighth Black, that makes them an "octoroon" and hence, "Black." Or more frequently with these folks, referred to with the "N-word."

Such is the mentality (if "mentality" actually applies in this case) of some people. And unfortunately, many of them have the vote.

Scary!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 01:18 PM

It wouldn't matter what race he was...the Republicans would hate him just as much. Remember how much they hated Bill Clinton? And Hillary Clinton? And Al Gore? It's hate on autopilot....just like Democrats automatically hate a Republican president or candidate. The one hate is a mirror image of the other. If weather was as easy to predict as bipartisan hatred is, we wouldn't need the weatherman! ;-D

The only thing that's different about the situation in Obama's case is that it's very convenient for hate purposes that he happens to also be half-black, that's all. Republicans would hate him just as much if he was all-white, but the half-black thing is one more handy aspect to the general approach of their supporters hatin' him, and that means it does play a useful part for propaganda purposes.

But on the other hand...it also plays a very useful part for Democrats...cos it helps secure the black vote for them and it also helps motivate all the white Democrats who want to see themselves as righteous defenders of racial equality heroically standin' up against that 400 years of oppression...and who are carryin' some historical guilt feelings over what happened back then. They can pat themselves on the back every time they defend Obama, cos they're not just defendin' a man....they're defendin' the entire historical cause of racial equality in America!!! The nightmare of slavery that haunts the American dream.

So, y' see? It's hugely convenient for BOTH the Right AND the Left that Obama is "black" (half-black). It allows 'em both to live out their dearest fantasies of moral righteousness and their mutual paranaoia to the max! It's a political wet dream for the 2 irreconcilable solitudes in a divided America.

Equally outta touch with reality in both cases.

Stop lookin' at him as a race profile and start lookin' at him as a man, folks, cos that is what he is...he's just another human being, period.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 12:36 PM

So is General Powell. Racists don't worry about distinctions like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 11:52 AM

He's not black. He's bi racial. If he's black then I'm a Cherokee Indian.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: bobad
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 11:46 AM

On Friday night, ex-Powell chief of staff and Republican Lawrence Wilkerson went on "The Ed Show" and said something that's blatantly obvious to most people, but is rare to hear from inside the GOP:

    "Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable."


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 10:25 AM

I've been tired of hearing about 400 years of oppression all my life. Go to school, apply yourself, and forget about pimping, drug dealing, and the NBA.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 10:19 AM

Republican John H (as in Henry) Sununu, governor has stirred the pot even more with his criticism of Powell's endorsement saying that it was based solely on race...

The Romney team publicly pushed back against Sununu but you can bet that they were cheering privately... There is more code talk racism going on these days than in decades...

Like I've said, I'm getting just a tad tired of watching and listening to white men going thru their victim-hood, righteous-indignation, poor-us 50 year old temper tantrum... Grow up, white men and accept some f'n personal responsibility, will ya???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 10:16 AM

I only have to google al-Obama's name and look at the images to see that Oprah's pick is unfit for the job. One photo after another. A grinning chucklehead.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:29 AM

"My threads"...


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:26 AM

Some fish never stop biting.

Which sums up what trolling is all about. And why it gets boring pretty soon, even for practitioners, I suspect.
.......................

This thread has drifted a bit. To get back on course, I see that the suggestion that Powell only endorsed Obama as a matter of black-on-black solidarity was put up by aprominent Republican John Sununu, only for him to try to wriggle out of it, presumably after realising that it rather reinforces the view that a hell of a lot of the people against Obama are against him for the very same reason, that he's black.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:18 AM

Good advice Richard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:13 AM

So don't follow me around like puppies posting to my threads. Yip! Yap! Yippie Yappie!
Alot of folks already have. Stopped.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: bobad
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:12 AM

We've seen this shit before - it stank more when you stirred it then and it stinks more when you stir it now - you all know what to do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:59 AM

Hear, hear!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:43 AM

Back when I was a regular at the Saturday afternoon blues jam sessions at Archie Edwards Barber Shop there would usually be anywhere from 20 to 30 musicians playing all kinds of instruments... One any given Saturday there would be 5 or so folks who were just passing thru Washington, D.C. who had heard of the jam session and wanted to see what it was all about... Now jam sessions, like life in general, can be kinda tricky and the goal was for everyone to feel welcome and to feel they had had an opportunity to lead a song or have a solo or something to take away from the experience...

Now some folks would show thinking that they were the very best blues player in the world when in reality they were quite average... Kinda like the small pond/big pond concept... The barbershop was the big pond... It was all but impossible to stop the jam every Saturday and point out the concepts of "blending", "sharing", "tuning", etc to new comers so what we did when we had someone come in thinking that they were the biggest fish in a big pond was do a song entitled "It Ain't All About You"... I mean, just the sound of 20 folks playing and singing those words usually took care of that situation without actually confronting the player who needed to realize that he or she was now playing in the big pond...

'Nuff said...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:14 AM

Some fish never stop biting. Nibbling. Sucking. Bottom feeding.
Win or lose.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 07:52 AM

I'm with brucie, i.e. 999, here... Yeah, there are a lot of feelings being aroused by this election and the Krinkx is fishin' in a hot spot but, just like real fishin', once this election is over the fish "ain't bitin'"... Me thinks that the Krinkx will find himself in the same place as "MG" once found himself because, like "MG" he only has one arrow in his quiver...

Too bad... I think he could fit in if he half tried but, as brucie alluded to: yes, we are a tolerant community here but we ain't children and most of us have "been there, done that" and not easily impressed by people who come here with "look at me" written all over them...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 07:11 AM

I read anything and everything as a child. Government education is a joke. Propaganda mills. I self educated as much as I could. And I've been told I'm intelligent, creative and playful at another forum. Just before I was told to go away and never come back.By the same person.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 06:57 AM

Ludibrium eh?

A seventeenth century capricious plaything.

Ideal for a mental midget.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 06:48 AM

" I read Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead when I was about 14 years old."

What a very peculiar child. Even then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 04:36 AM

And I read Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead when I was about 14 years old. I'm familiar with Ayn Rand.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 04:21 AM

Namecalling again, Dick. You have no credibility now. You've ruined it. Aren't you a lawyer or some such drivel? Do you curse and namecall in the courtroom? I bet you don't have much credibility there, either.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 04:03 AM

Why do people say that Krinklenut is entertaining? He's an offensive moron.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 02:46 AM

Maybe I misspoke. Mothers in law. Good day.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Oct 12 - 02:42 AM

I think you misspoke Bruce. You're much more like in-laws than outlaws. Mother in laws. Might want to cut back on the alcohol. Fogs the brain.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 10:32 PM

Henry-

I'm actually much more interested in the campaign than "you." You've harvested an amazingly amount of good feedback, along with the expected negative feedback; enjoy the positive and learn from it. Don't count on it happening in the future, though.

This is, I believe, one of those watershed threads where you get to decide what role you want to play here.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 10:31 PM

I don't like the "abortion on demand" thing either, Bobert, but when Right Wing Nuts talk about pregnancy from rape as a "gift from God," it kind of gets my back up!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 10:27 PM

"I haven't really put much effort into shocking and annoying anyone. I'm not particularly malicious. Mudcat is a ludibrium for me.(you may google ludibrium if you're ignorant of its meaning)."

That is nothing less than floccinoccinihilipilification and certainly beneath your dignity, Henry, and if it isn't beneath yours it certainly is beneath mine. I don't mind people who use flashy words, but I do object to affronts that presume the reader is lacking in Latin or the ability to figure out words presented in context.

Please stop thinking this horseshit is entertaining or educational. What you and I perceive seem to differ. There is no need to denigrate people on this forum. You are really fucking up. Give it some thought. It's foolish to be an outlaw inside a group of outlaws. Most of us have been there and done that.

The people here are the most welcoming and tolerant folks I've ever met. Why place yourself outside a community that welcomes you? Why spit in our faces? Why not start tomorrow with "Sorry guys and gals. I had a few issues and I'll try to fix 'em." Not one individual on Mudcat will look down on you for that. As it stands, you are leaving folks no choice. I wish you weren't.

My e-mail address is

irishancestry at gmail dot com

I live in Ormstown, Quebec, Canada. I ain't hard to find. Hell, the town has only 3500 people. I think if you asked anyone on Mudcat if I have ever given their email address to anyone else, the answer would be no. I know more folks here--some of whom dislike me intensely--who would be willing to say I am a sonuvabitch but I don't/won't release their personal info without their go-ahead (read expressed permission). You ever want to talk about it, write me. Until you choose to do so, I gotta say goodbye.

Keep well, Henry. I appreciated our message exchange, but the people here I argue with, fight with, get bitchy with--some of whom think I'm garbage--well, at least they think I'm their garbage.

Bruce


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 09:43 PM

Abortion on demand??? I donno... You either make it available to women or you don't... If you put too many conditions on it then you, in essence, outlaw it...

There was a time when women of means took those little "vacations" (wink, wink) to Mexico... Poor women went to back room abortion clinics and were dieing in large numbers...

American women are going to get abortions... That is a given.... It comes down to equal/human rights... Do women of means trump poor women???

I personally would never approve an abortion of any child I fathered but that just means that I have confined my sex to wives...

On the other hand, I don't see a dual standard that treads rich and poor women differently...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 09:40 PM

Well, actually, 9, I think they were just looking for something to call themselves other than "Ayn Rand's Disciples" (which reveals far too much) and "Libertarian" had a nice ring to it.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 09:40 PM

Misanthrope, bobette. Misanthrope.
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 09:34 PM

So you have nothing better to do with your life than to be ludicrous, eh, Hinkey?

Well, I'd say that you do that quite well. It's nice to have a genuine talent for SOMETHING, anyway.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 09:28 PM

"When there's an Anarchy Party I'll vote for them."

That'll be the last vote you ever have.

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McGrath's remark is one I'd like an answer to also. Every time I do those 'where do you fit on the political spectrum' things on the internet I end up being in the libertarian quadrant.

I disagree with abortion on demand, agree with universal health care, think that capital punishment is wrong but right in specific circumstances, hate unlimited capitalism, value the worth of all people, think that religion and politics should not be sleeping in the same bed, dislike the stupidities that lead to war, would refuse the government's right to send my children to most foreign wars, believe that a graduated tax is fair, and all education should be free from kindergarten to the ability of the individual.

I value garbage collectors as much as doctors, dentists as much as truck drivers and philosophy/art as much as engineering/singing. I believe in a world where people are judged not by their colour but by the conduct of their character. I think 'judgeship's should be earned, not appointed, and if as an elected official you use the office to screw the people who elected you, then you deserve to be fed to rabid dogs.

If that makes me libertarian, why am I in almost-total disagreement with the Libertarian Party?

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Having said that, I have a beer going flat. In case I forget, goodnight all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 09:18 PM

Play or not, Krinkx, you are:

a. a racist

b. entertaining

and...

c. borderline (or not so borderline) mentally ill

No matter to me... I've known lotta mentally ill people... No big deal...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 09:05 PM

I haven't really put much effort into shocking and annoying anyone. I'm not particularly malicious. Mudcat is a ludibrium for me.(you may google ludibrium if you're ignorant of its meaning).
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 08:44 PM

Yeah, entertaining. Sort of like a yappy little Yorkshire terrier who keeps trying to bite your ankle. His teeth are too small to get through your pants and sock and whenever you get tired of the game, you can reach down, scoop him up, and toss him back over the neighbor's hedge. You want to make sure he lands in the rhododendron bush because even if the mutt is a pest, you're kind to dumb animals and you don't want to hurt him.

Besides, it will take him a good twenty minutes to figure out how to get out of the bush.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 07:31 PM

Krinkx just like to do "shock", Don...

Yeah, some of what he says is real... He don't much like black people... He hates Obama which is based mostly on his racist attitudes...

But beyond being a racist, he's generally entertaining and just trying to say the stupidest thing that comes into his mind...

Kinda fits his hair...

You know, exhibitionist... A shrink would have a field day with him...

But somewhat entertaining...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 06:57 PM

Well, that's undoubtedly just as well, Kranky. If your vote doesn't do any good, at least flushing it down the toilet like that won't interfere with the good order of the Universe.

Having only one brain cell tends to render one impotent in the general course of human events.

(Waste of protoplasm!!)

Don Firth


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