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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Apr 08 - 04:35 AM You can't help thinking - why SRV, and not those two.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 22 Apr 08 - 04:05 AM Well we see the British tax payer has been taken for a ride once again by the free loaders known as the Winsors. Prince William flew a Royal Air Force Chinook helicopter to the home of that young tart, Kate Middleton's garden. William has drawn criticism for his personal use of military craft and reopened a controversy in Britain about his and his brother's privileged role in the armed forces during a time of war. A few weeks ago he flew his half brother, young Hewitt to a stag night in another RAF helicopter.
Thanks. -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Backwoodsman Date: 08 Mar 08 - 02:40 AM "Well I see your point attempting to restore friendships here after putting your foot in it on another thread. Big Opps wasn´t it !!!!!" Windsor No-Willy, at least when I put my foot in it, I have the balls and the grace to apologise in public (and to privately have lengthy correspondence with the MEMBER I upset in order to, at least partly, mend the fence) - in other words, to behave like an adult. You might learn something from my example. Joe, this dick has gone far enough - please close the thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie Date: 07 Mar 08 - 10:07 PM I feel sorry for the kid, as he seems to by trying to man up. What if it was the Queen who outed him, or has anyone already said that thrice? I haven't the strength to read another long thread after trying to teach someone in a coma to count to twelve all day. :) B#B#, the entertainer formerly known as CC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Gervase Date: 07 Mar 08 - 03:37 PM Why is it that so many shaky-eggs, conspiracy theorists and internet losers are just so bloody rude online? One wonders if they walk up to people in real life and start hectoring them with their absurd beliefs and then throwing their toys out of the pram when someone tries to point them in the direction of reality. Sadly the internet makes even the smallest rodent pugnacious. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 07 Mar 08 - 03:28 PM Me get a life ! Now that is rich, I have a wonderful life, no need to find my friends thought internet ! Close it if you want Joe, that´s what you do when your circle calls for it, it´s old school tie again, your close circle calls Joe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Mar 08 - 03:19 PM Keep the personal squabbling out of this thread, or I'll have to close it. Windsor Knot, get a life. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 07 Mar 08 - 02:41 PM Backward by name, backward by nature. Well I see your point attempting to restore friendships here after putting your foot in it on another thread. Big Opps wasn´t it !!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Backwoodsman Date: 07 Mar 08 - 11:33 AM Don't feed the twat, Don. If we ignore him, he might get bored of baitibg his intellectual superiors, and go out and find a busy road to play on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 07 Mar 08 - 06:44 AM Sorry PAL I am answerable to you, reading some of your previous posts, Christ there is a stage awaiting you somewhere, now go boil your head or something. It is somewhat pleasing to know I got to you, Thanks again for letting me know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 07 Mar 08 - 06:14 AM If you want to be taken seriously here, post some backing for YOUR bullshit claims. And don't try to join in a battle of wits with the grownups. You are only half equipped. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 06 Mar 08 - 02:45 PM Don(Wyziwyg)T you don´t half talk some sh1t. Try life without the blinkers on, you never know your brain could also engage through time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 06 Mar 08 - 10:23 AM It must be so galling, WK, to see all these people getting the attention and respect that is really due to you, as the only truly perfect human being in existence. Wake up to yourself, you sad, sour specimen. There must be something good in your miserable life. Why not concentrate on that instead of trying to bring everyone else down to your level. Young Harry may be the scion of an overprivileged family, but he insisted on being allowed to follow the career he had wanted since childhood, and further insisted on going with his comrades into action. He did not, as you suggest have bodyguards in Afghanistan, excepting of course the other soldiers with whom he was deployed. He did not ask, nor did he receive, special treatment while on deployment, and I strongly suspect that he is already pestering his superiors with requests to get back into action. He is a brave and dedicated soldier. Tell me WK, what have YOU done for our country?......Nothing?.....Thought so! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot. Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:49 AM The death of Adam Regis was tragic, another sad example of youth crime. I see enough of it here in Manchester.I doubt Liz it will be on the same scale as Diana´s funeral. Adam Regis aged 15 was a victim of a fall out among local black gang members. Police say they know who carried out the crime, but need the help of the local community to nail them. Maybe they should consider talking to the police next weekend instead of buying flowers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 06 Mar 08 - 03:05 AM "Many mothers and children loose their lives on a daily basis and you never see strangers hitting their heads against lamp posts or howling in the streets over them." You should come to east London next week then. It's the anniversary of the murder of a young black boy, as far from the Princess of Wales as you could possibly get - but I bet you there will be flowers laid at the spot where he died, just as there were a year ago. And I know that a year ago, many of those flowers were laid by people who had never met or heard of the boy Adam, who died. There was an open display of grief from many people who never knew this boy existed, but had been murdered in their street, in my street. They laid their flowers as much for the death of their peace of mind as for his memory. Oh, and by the way, 'lose' means 'to suffer the deprivation of'... 'loose' means 'the opposite of tight'. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 05 Mar 08 - 02:11 PM Appaloosa Lady, excellent post. Yes your explanation holds some water. I myself found the public outcrying of grief for Diana at the time of her death was well over the top. How many among that crowd knew her ? a collection of sad people with little in their lives only a desire to be part of something. Many mothers and children loose their lives on a daily basis and you never see strangers hitting their heads against lamp posts or howling in the streets over them. Diana´s death was a sad event, but this woman lead a charmed life and people like you and I funded it. She was on holiday with her boyfriend in France at the time, not driving back from Tesco´s with two kids in the back seat. I agree with you regarding Salman Rushdie. He made millions from the sale of his book and never offered to repay the cost of his protection. Young Hewitt should not be allowed to snap his fingers and call out for protection for some girl he is seeing at the moment. That is wrong, NO PUBLIC THREAT HAS BEEN MADE AGAINST HER if he wants someone to watch over the poor girl, ask granny to put her hand in her pocket. I don´t know about you, but if the items on your weekly supermarket bill showed a few extra pence added to it for the annual staff dinner you would ask questions. Protection for this girl will come to almost 80,000 pounds a week (paid for by the taxpayer)! The police didn´t call for it, nor did the national security services, it was at the request of young Hewitt, no one else. What any of the named soldiers who picked up gallantry medals and were all over the news, I doubt their families receive protection. Are you aware of any of then calling for an armed guard ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: billybob Date: 05 Mar 08 - 09:58 AM Well done A Lady. I was not going to post here as so much rubbish was being written, but your common sense was refreshing to read! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Appaloosa Lady Date: 04 Mar 08 - 03:25 PM WK, I am no royalist. I am a realist. Many families have wealth amassed from centuries past. Much of it came to them from the toil of the working people they employed, at a pittance. That is still carrying on today. Slavery is far from extinct. We have, as a nation, taken much from other countries throughout history, true, but other countries have also taken from each other. We are not alone as a nation, neither are the Royal Family, as people. I do not hear you bringing Salman Rushdie into this argument. He too has had his life 'protected' by the British taxpayer for a very long time, with very little thanks being given for that, from things I have read. It has cost us millions I think. However, we believe in free speech in this country and so have entirely backed someone whose life was threatened, purely for writing a book. Many people have to live under police protection for various reasons, often for a very long time. Where is your raging voice about that? Harry, now it has been revealed he has fought in Iraq, has become 'a target'. He will remain so for many years to come. Those who choose 'never to forget' seldom do, and I would not want to be in that young man's shoes for all the wealth his family have 'amassed'over the centuries. Not only that, but those who are close to him, particularly his girlfriends, now and in the future, and eventually his wife and children, will also become, and possibly remain 'targets' for a very long time. Harry was right to ask for protection for those about him, particularly at the moment. He did not ask for this news to be leaked, and no doubt, had it not, then he would not be in this position now, and in the foreseeable future, nor would his girlfriend. If it were my daughter, or yours, no doubt you would think differently? Basically, when the news was 'leaked' Harry's life changed overnight. He, and his brother, have always been targets for various people, but now, Harry has moved up the list somewhat. I expect he knew this would happen, when he thought about going to Iraq, but he still chose to go, feeling himself to be 'just a soldier' along with the rest of his comrades. However the repercussions of that decision may come to haunt him for a long time. Yes, his grandmother and father could afford to pay for the protection themselves, but if that is the case, then every soldier who comes back from Iraq, whose name is released to the press, should surely also be made to pay for protection themselves? You cannot have one rule for one, and one for another, can you? Does Salman Rushdie still receive protection? I've no idea, but I'm sure he too could probably afford to pay for his own bodyguards these days. His life will always be in danger I should imagine. Harry though, is an even greater target, now. MI5? Theories will abound forevermore. At the end of the day though, that night in Paris, two young boys simply lost the mother they adored. She gave them more love than possibly the rest of their family put together, she cuddled them and loved them, laughed with them, and cried with them. She took them into hostels, into hospitals, into local burger bars, and local funparks. She gave them 'their people' not wrapped up in jewels and designer furs, but in Aids Wards and places for the homeless, in the high streets and the shops. However she died, for whatever reason, and by whoever's hand, Harry and William are the ones who suffered that night, more than this nation, more than the Royal Family. I was there, in London, very shortly before her funeral and I will never forget the overwhelming silence of thousands of people, walking the pavements towards Kensington Palace. It was an Army. Not a sound, not a word was heard, other than the call of the newspaper sellers, wanting to make their money from her, even has she lay, not far away in St. James's. The over-powering scent of that ocean of flowers will never leave me. In the midst of it all stood one horse, stock still, the policeman on his back watching the scene with the saddest of expressions. The flowers reached the knees of his horse, but that beautiful animal stood there as silent as the people who had brought them. Her son's life will now be in danger, for simply doing what every other soldier is called upon to do, yet the majority of soldiers are able to return home to live their lives without incident or worry. Harry can no longer do that. His life is already 'police protected' It is only right that those closest to him are now brought under that umbrella of safety. Think on this WK, if his mother had been allowed to keep HER police protection, she may still be alive today. Therefore I do not begrudge her sons one single penny. The powers that be can take it out of what they saved on Diana. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 04 Mar 08 - 07:12 AM Appaloosa Lady, Yes there is a lot of truth in what you say, but you must admit the Royal Family live like leeches of the backs of ordinary people. Their wealth was amassed over several hundred years,a lot stolen from other countries, the working class of Britain and by government handouts. Young Hewitt is no different, yesterday he asked for protection of a young South African tart he is seeing at a cost of upto 80,000 pounds a week and it was granted.Few local kids could call that one in. In regard to your remark, "Now he's plagued by the same vultures who, it cannot be denied, played a large part in his mother's death." I don´t think he is plagued by MI5. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: DougR Date: 03 Mar 08 - 07:43 PM Good for Harry. I am under the impression that his cover was blown by a couple of publications in Australia but it was the story on Drudge Report that caught the attention of the world press. My hats off to the press in Great Britain for recognizing the need to keep Harry's activities secret as long as possible. That would not have been possible with the press in the U.S. Our press likely would have printed the story as soon as it was known in hopes that some terrible thing would happen to Harry so they could shove microphones under the Royals' noses and ask them to tell the public "how they feel." DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Appaloosa Lady Date: 03 Mar 08 - 05:16 PM Young Harry. I don't see him as that soldier. I see him walking behind his mother's coffin, doing his utmost not to cry his heart out, and he got there. I see her throwing her arms tight around both her sons, in absolute joy at being reunited with them. I see Harry, William and Diana, always smiling. Now he's plagued by the same vultures who, it cannot be denied, played a large part in his mother's death. Think how angry that must make him feel. Everywhere he goes, he's followed by them. He has never been allowed to grieve in peace. He and his brother have grown up with continuous 'theories' being written/made up about the Mum they both adored, mainly to sell papers. So yes, Harry may get sozzled out of his brain now and then. Hell, wouldn't YOU? He may make stupid mistakes, same as many youngsters do. However, have any of you angry people in here, ever stopped spewing out your bile long enough to consider that perhaps, just PERHAPS Harry is even angrier than you? Diana, as far as I'm concerned, did one helluva lot for the Royal Family, she made them 'human'. She was able to reach out to people, hug, touch, love them. Yes, I know that some find public emotion a bad thing, but never forget, the British people turned out in their hundreds of thousands to bid her farewell. It had never been seen before and what happened on that day, will never be seen again. It was truly extraordinary. Yes she knew how to use the media, when it suited her, but who can blame her? She more than made up for that in the love she gave to so many people, of all backgrounds, people she was never afraid to sit on the floor with, invite round for tea, write thank-you letters to, call in to their homes and have a cuppa with etc. In my mind, she was quite an extraordinary woman, and this country is far poorer without her. She drew attention to many charities, to many things that were wrong with the world. She could have merely stayed at home with her feet up. Yes, there are many 'wasters' in the Royal Family, but then there are many 'wasters' in all areas of society aren't there? Nowadays Diane has been replaced with Posh and Becks, as far as the media are concerned. Need I say more? I've a strong feeling that 'come the day' neither of her sons will let her down. But give them a little more time. They've had a traumatic early life, as indeed have many, many other people, but they have never been allowed to see their mother rest in peace, never been allowed to just get on with their lives, having to endure so much under the microscope. Even to this very day the papers are still filled with yet more stories about their mother. They are behaving no differently to many young people these days, it is the culture they have grown up in, sadly. Go into any city or town and you'll find so many of our young people drunk, vomiting and ill. You don't have to be a Prince of the Realm to join in. Maybe they're as unhappy as Harry, in this world that's ceased to care? Yes, he still has a lot to learn, so did I at that age, but he's probably not so very different from my young lad, or yours. I'm sure he'd give every one of his grandmother's jewels to have his mother back again. There's a gaping hole there, which may never heal, but hopefully, the pain may become a little easier as he grows older. As as for Harry's Army 'Career' I'd rather he was studying the words of Martin Luther King Jr. "Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: irishenglish Date: 03 Mar 08 - 03:23 PM Thanks, consider yourself ignored TROLLKNOT. Cheers art |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: artbrooks Date: 03 Mar 08 - 03:20 PM Trolls should be ignored. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: irishenglish Date: 03 Mar 08 - 03:16 PM Yeah that's right, no one ever lies on myspace, meaning some people do, not everyone, but I guess you're mister perfect and you never make mistakes. Not that is even a mistake. Your refusal to back up your assertions means that your proof is non existent. By the way, I never called you anything other than Windsor Knot, so you do not have the right to abbreviate, or mislabel my username in any way whatsoever. My username is irishenglish, and that is how to address me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 03 Mar 08 - 03:05 PM Elish, check a couple of posts up you said "(that's right, no one ever lies on myspace)" Dear dear, how can I be expected to converse with such a short memory span. Sorry, I en´t your research student, do what I did, find them yourself Elish. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: irishenglish Date: 03 Mar 08 - 03:04 PM So Windsor Knot, all those photos I have seen of Harry in uniform in terrain that is definitely not anywhere in the UK, where were those taken? Back lot at the BBC? Spain? Israel? Oh, that's right, he's in Area 51. Or maybe Roswell. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: irishenglish Date: 03 Mar 08 - 02:19 PM My myspace is private, and shall remain so. My username is irishenglish. Where are the reports you have mentioned, give us a link, this is the third time I have asked you for a specific link. I would like to see where you get this info from. Maybe I might be persuaded, although your continued spouting of innuendo from guys he supposedly trained with is just as spoon fed as what you accuse me of. I at no time said that everyone on myspace lies, I said, like no one has lied on there before. You can't even get your accusations right against me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 03 Mar 08 - 02:08 PM IrisElish. So you are willing to be spoon fed by the knocked up news reports issued from Buck House ? I read the reports from guys he trained with and know young Hewitt. So everyone on Myspace tells lies ? So what´s the link to your page on it then ? Young Hewitt has come out to defend Paul Burrell today after it was claimed he is skilled at putting an extention on a guys spine. Says it all, says it all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: irishenglish Date: 03 Mar 08 - 11:03 AM Windsor Knot-you still haven't shown us any proof to your claims that he wasn't in Afghanistan, just your tired mantra about myspace. Well, how about a link, or don't you want us to know (that's right, no one ever lies on myspace) that you're full of it. And while we're at it, what other conspiracy theories do you subscribe to, since nothing seems to be cut and dry for you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 03 Mar 08 - 07:38 AM You got it PA ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: The PA Date: 03 Mar 08 - 07:32 AM Thought she WAS 'horse of the year'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 03 Mar 08 - 06:55 AM Well today we see young Hewitt has got it into his head that the young tart he is seeing at the moment could become a target because a few still believe he was out in the sands. Protection for this SOUTH AFRICAN girlfriend will cost the British taxpayer between 74,000 - 80,000 pounds a week ! So your granny like so many others may well get a letter from her local hospital to say they can´t afford to do her hip operation. Something to think about. Princess Anne has two medals, One for "Horse of the year" the other "Best turned out horse". Sadly neither horse she rode on these two occasions won a medal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: The PA Date: 03 Mar 08 - 03:46 AM I'm undecided. Half of me has watched all the coverage and thinks 'Yeh good on ya', shows his late moms spirit and goes and gets his hands dirty. But the other half says, well he joined the army - just what did he expect? Special treatment - my friends son has been out there 5 times so far, and he didnt have a body guard! Just takes his chances with the rest. But I have to say the one who completely pisses me off is that bloody princes Anne. There she is on rememberance day all uniformed up and up to her armpits in medals!! Excuse me did I miss something - just what bloody war did she fight in. She has absolutely NO right to be wearing medals. Medals are for brave people and I dont call telling the press to 'naff off' as brave Rant over. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Acorn4 Date: 02 Mar 08 - 06:30 PM Just watched the TV documentary about his stint in Afghanistan - he came over very well ; perhaps it was lucky that the cover was blown - before he got killed by the Americans! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Mar 08 - 03:56 PM I'm sure this from YouTube will confirm some people's suspicions. Proof that Prince Charles is the Antichrist |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Backwoodsman Date: 02 Mar 08 - 03:55 PM Backwardman, I don´t need to send you a link as no doubt you are able to do this yourself. Anything I would supply would be dismissed by you as "****". Answer the question Knob. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: mg Date: 02 Mar 08 - 02:56 PM I am of the opposite view..I think Prince Harry shows potential for greatness of some sort in some field...I don't get the same impression of Prince William...surely competence and skill but I see something extra in Harry...mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: themoment Date: 02 Mar 08 - 02:37 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-1H5rZ3LaQ to the tune of "Johnny I Hardly Knew You"....everybody sing along! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Windsor Knot Date: 02 Mar 08 - 02:25 PM Thanks Sal. Backwardman, I don´t need to send you a link as no doubt you are able to do this yourself. Anything I would supply would be dismissed by you as "****". Young Hewitt flew out a few days ago to get the ride back on the plane, great timimg about the story breaking. If young Hewitt had been out there one of his drug fuelled friends would have broke the story weeks ago. Go to Myspace or Facebook and read the accounts of those he once served with and read their accounts of the story, they are laughing about it and saying young Hewitt finds the story funny, he was never there, that came from British soldiers and close friends of his. Young Hewitt wasn´t out of the country that is for sure. And anyone who can support the royal leeches deserved to be lead by the nose concerning this story, give it a week or two and Prince Philip will drop him in it ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Guest Date: 02 Mar 08 - 02:02 PM The monkey was part of the conspiracy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Mar 08 - 01:17 PM Precisely. Aiming the complaints at the lad himself is completely beside the point. Don't blame the monkey if you don't like the tune the organ grinder has selected. And don't blame the monkey for being an organ grinder's monkey. And "monkey" here isn't intended as an insult, it's just an analogy. And I like monkeys anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Guest Date: 02 Mar 08 - 11:51 AM And then there is this revelatory bit just in from AFP: Propaganda and PR claims over Prince Harry's Afghan tour 3 hours ago LONDON (AFP) — Prince Harry was on Sunday spending his first full day back in Britain after a tour of duty in Afghanistan, but amid claims that coverage of his mission was propaganda for a failed military strategy. The 23-year-old's time fighting the Taliban in the volatile Helmand Province in southern Afghanistan has dominated the British media since a prominent US website blew his cover on Thursday, forcing military brass to pull him out. Britain's domestic Press Association news agency put out 11,548 words within an hour of the Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirming the Drudge Report story. On Friday, there were 56 pages of coverage in eight national newspapers, with headlines like "Harry the Brave" and "Harry the Secret Hero." The Sun tabloid published 11 pages, plus a poster of him on patrol. All included photographs of the flame-haired prince: riding a motorbike in the desert, Steve McQueen style; with his shirt off playing rugby; in combat fatigues on patrol; or behind a machine gun, firing at insurgent positions. Harry and the head of the British Army, General Sir Richard Dannatt, have said the blanket coverage could help better inform the public about Britain's mission in Afghanistan -- and also in Iraq, which remains unpopular here. Dannatt's predecessor, General Sir Mike Jackson, told BBC television Sunday the coverage was "not unhelpful" for recruitment, saying Harry had summed up the sense of comradeship and common purpose among serving soldiers. But dissenting voices are beginning to be heard, not least about the British media's rare, but not unprecedented, agreement with the defence ministry to a news blackout until Harry's return. The presenter of Britain's Channel 4 News, Jon Snow, in an e-mail previewing Thursday's show, said: "One wonders whether viewers, readers and listeners will ever want to trust media bosses again. "Or perhaps this was a courageous editorial decision to protect this fine young man?" he asked. The British publicist Max Clifford told The Guardian Saturday the deployment was a "total, superficial, PR exercise" aimed at casting Harry -- who has a reputation as a wayward party animal -- in a more positive light. One columnist at the right-of-centre Mail on Sunday said the focus on Harry and criticism of foreign media for breaking a gentleman's agreement was "sheer propaganda" that "may make us feel 'our boys are winning' in Afghanistan. "But this is not the truth at all," wrote Suzanne Moore. "Instead of secret meetings between the MoD and TV and newspaper editors and the Palace, wouldn't this time have been better spent in working out what we are trying to do in this brutalised country, as no-one is quite sure any more?" In the Independent on Sunday, a British soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan criticised Britain's campaign in Helmand, arguing air strikes of the kind Harry called in as a battlefield air controller were not working. "Rather than highlighting the appalling truths about the war in Helmand, the media, dazzled by the heroic ideal that Prince Harry so perfectly embodies, perpetuate the myth that this is a just war fit for heroes," said Leo Docherty. "This is war reduced to entertainment, willingly ignorant of the truth that young men like Harry, both British and Afghan, are dying violent pointless deaths in Helmand province. "Outrage is the only response to this, not entertainment." The Observer, another centre-left weekly, said the complexities of the NATO-led mission and tensions between allies, particularly over troop numbers and rules of engagement, had been overlooked. Scant attention was paid to recent claims about the Afghan government's fragile grip on power in the face of the Taliban's "kamikaze fanaticism," the difficulties of reconstruction or the coalition's counter-narcotics strategy, it wrote. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Guest Date: 02 Mar 08 - 11:08 AM And I hear recruitment is up as well, what with all those tarted up photos of shirtless football and desert motocross games. Seems your media conspiracies and coverups in cahoots with your government are every bit as shameful as the US in that regard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Guest Date: 02 Mar 08 - 11:04 AM Well, if I were British, I would be angry about Harry and the Militarist Propaganda Campaign. But apparently there are a lot of Sun readers here, who've bought the Harry our Hero (tm) 'hook, line and sinker' (as we say in my wee corner of the wide world). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Mar 08 - 10:37 AM Why should I be disappointed, GG? It's really not worth getting angry about this stuff. Some people do seem to be doing so, but if you aren't one of them, good for you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: GUEST,Guest Date: 02 Mar 08 - 10:11 AM Sorry to disappoint, McGrath. I'm not angry either. I do disagree w/some here, but in a bantering vein, where I, like most the others, give as good as I get. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Sorcha Date: 02 Mar 08 - 09:18 AM I can't help but be amused by all this. Sure, we are entitled to our 'opinions' but not one of those opinions will ever be proven/disproven. (Unless you believe the tabloids...they've been telling us the 'Truth' for years.) I see Harry as a very confused young man....and I think you Brits should all be rather glad that the 'Spare' wasn't the 'Heir' if you get my drift. Who CARES who his father was anyway? I sure don't. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: jacqui.c Date: 02 Mar 08 - 09:16 AM I'm not a great lover of the royal family but do admire Harry for wanting to be treated, insofar as it is possible, like any other member of the armed forces and to be involved in the war that they are fighting. I feel rather sorry for him that, due to the constrictions of his family, he is out in this sort of situation and will probably find, as the years go on, that this situation shows less privilege and more constriction of his life. These boys, like the generation before them, will always be living in a goldfish bowl, with no real option to lead a normal life. On the privilege they have I can think of other scions of wealthy families who seem to do less to justify their existence - the one who immediately springs to mind right now is Paris Hilton who, from what I can see has done absolutely nothing to warrant the attention she has been given apart from having been born into money and a famous name. there are others who have appeared over the years of the same ilk. Unlike the princes and most of the royal family these types seem to revel in media attention without, it seems, having any other use than to fill the pages of the gossip press. At least the royals do generate a certain amount of tourist industry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Mar 08 - 08:10 AM I wasn't suggesting, GG, that you were enthusiastic about the royals. Just that, like a few others, you seem very aerated about them. I can't see why there should be more anger addressed at them than at all the rich layabouts and scroungers who infest our societies. Why are they targets more than people who have won millions on the lottery, for example? (In this case, literally a target.) One way of looking at this episode is that the Government decided to set up a public relations exercise to make people feel more positive towards the war in Afghanistan. So they shipped off Harry. The Drudge sludgegulper leaked it prematurely, which caused a bit of a kerfuffle as things had to be wound up in a hurry. At the centre of all this is young Harry, who fortunately appears to have wanted to go. I suspect that if he hadn't that wouldn't have made too much difference. But the royals are there to do what is required of them. I get the distinct impression that his father, Prince Charles, would have been happier if he hadn't been sent to the war. After all, these people are human beings, who have been landed, through no doing of their own, in a very peculiar situation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star! From: Backwoodsman Date: 02 Mar 08 - 06:44 AM Mr. W. KNOB, please answer the question, second asking - you claim as a fact that Harry IS Hewitt's son. How do you know this? Please give is links to the data. If you can't do that, you have lost what little credibility you had. In which case, STFU and FRO. |
