BS: Prince Harry - What a star!

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:30 PM

To "The Villan " and "Sugarfoot Jack": I used to teach in the Arts Faculty of a University in the UK, and I remember how members of Staff, with humorous intent, imitated a Billy-Connolly-style Glasgow accent, with the additional implication that those speaking with such an accent were ignorant, crude, ill-bred and ill-mannered. The fact that I have a Glasgow accent isn't the worst thing about such a demonstration of crass ignorance; it's the fact that the University was itself in Scotland, though as is usual there was a great preponderance of English Public Schoolboys among these "Academic colleagues". Was it E M Forster who said that, in Britain, "people are branded on the tongue"?

Returning to the current diversion taken by this thread, there was a Court case in Glasgow some ten years ago when some youth was arrested by a Police officer for using the very same "P" word in referring to a shopkeeper. When the case came to Court, and the shopkeeper was asked his name and occupation, he replied that he "keeps the wee Paki shop in ****** Road". Case dismissed.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:05 PM

I use it amongst friends or people I know well. My point exactly, Villan, thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Alan
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 01:45 PM

I must call Amid a few names when I get my papers in the morning, let's see if he sees the funny side of it !

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 01:22 PM

The good thing is that 'Sooty' is coming to his defence.... The name has been used affectionately as was Harrys..... when will people see that it is only when the names are used 'OFFENSIVELY' that it becomes a problem.... Sooty is quite happy to be called Sooty.... wonder what he calls Charles?????. Harrys friend didn't actually complain himself.
Some people spend time looking for things to blow out of proportion... especially the press and the media.... why can't they try to understand what is happening and give the 'real' story instead ???

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Alan
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:59 PM

Prince Charles has become the latest member of the Royal Family to be embroiled in a race row after it was reported he calls an Asian man "Sooty". This gets better.

The development comes a few days after his son Harry was widely condemned for calling a former Army colleague by an offensive name.

Charles has apparently called Polo club member Kolin Dhillon Sooty.

Graham Smith, campaign manager for the organisation Republic, said: "I think it goes to show the Royal Family are not a symbol of unity, it's not something we can rally around, they're quite divisive.

"People are saying they are not racist but on the evidence in the public domain I think that's to the contrary.

"It also shows how hugely out of touch they are and that they live in a very isolated world, only mixing with a certain kind of person."

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:36 PM

Want to say that I appreciated Lox's honest, personal and revealing posts here.

But ffs, wtf is Harry anyway? If he can't properly do his job as an official ambassador for the UK then he needs to earn his livlihood in other ways.

I have my own somewhat bizzare take on the Royal Family, and see them as a useful focus for those numbnuts (aplenty!) who still need incarnate Gods to worship. IMO they are a pragmatically valuable saftey valve against the kind of fanatical religious Idiolisation of politicians which has occured in other parts of the world. The deification in the public mind of politicians, is IMO one hell of a dangerous thing! Do 'Royal Families', help to divert that type of mindless public Idolatry? I for one, think that they may do so. And most valuably too.

I also think that Plato got it right about the dangers of Democracy. Our Royal Family are *in no way* to be mistaken for Plato's ideal of Philosopher Kings, But then that's a whole other thread for a whole other forum...

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Rasener
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:30 PM

Kat
That reminds me of an expression I use as i was brought up on it in Birmingham.
If somebody does something daft. I say "You dosy twat". However I don't say it with malice or to offend. Its just an expression and I am normally smiling or laughing when I say it. Its almost like a term of endearment. I use it amongst friends or people I know well.
Les

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:28 PM

solution to problem

Have we got enough troops left over there to send Harry on a tour of Northern ireland, equipped with The Frank Carson book of thick Paddy jokes?

I think a few bridge building exercises with the community round Crossmaglen should do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:22 PM

Nowadays I have become more considerate and as I have a million other ways to express myself I allow myself to see beyond obvious predictable areas of focus and I relate to people on more varied and interesting ground.

Well-said. One thing to point out: the WHITE world has by and large been the big, bad oppressors and it is them using the N word and others which continues the bullying/denigrating/etc. to minorities which effects whole communities. With a few exceptions, white humans have enslaved and debased those of more colour and it is NOT okay to use that kind of language in a day to day matter of fact way. Maybe in the military where it is "equal opportunity for denigrating nicknames" or between friends who are comfortable with such, but not in a general way. I don't agree with the video of Harry being released and causing such a furor, but I also don't agree that it should be condoned or shrugged off. A little education about the effect of such never goes amiss, imo.

An example which is non-racial: some girl friends and I have claimed the word "cunt" to take away the hateful way in which it is sometimes used and because we can joke comfortably with one another about it. We don't do it often, but still we do. Now, how would any of you feel if you found your mother/sister/daughter/etc. was being called a cunt as a daily off-hand reference?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Rasener
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:12 PM

Sugarfoot
I am a real Brummie, born and bred in Great Barr and above all a Villa supporter. You are not a real Brummie if you are a Blues supporter.

I can't say I have ever experienced your issues and I have never tried to hide the fact that I am a Brummie. I have lived all over the country and Scotland and Holland.
One thing you can't really hide is your accent.
Les

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Stu
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:58 AM

"The next time anybody takes the piss out of me for being a brummie, I am going to accuse them of being rascist."

Well, here's the reason I'm a miserable bugger on this one. I moved from the outskirts of Brum when I was 16 to a small town south of Manchester. When I arrived here complete with accent I received a barrage of abuse I was totally unprepared for. Although many people were fine, I got such stick about my accent in the end I purposefully lost it in order to fit in.

I've regretted doing this ever since, and I'm sure the small-minded tossers who endlessly went on about my Birmingham accent never realised they were causing offence (I kept quiet about it), to them it was all a big laugh. Nowadays I don't give a shit. I would rather have been raised a Brummie than anything else and although not born there I consider myself a Brummie before anything else - at school we all thought of ourselves as Brummie.

I tell you what Villan, if everyone had the self-deprecating humour of the Brummies the world would be a better place.

The royal family are all w*nkers as far as I'm concerned anyway, racist or otherwise.

Bostin!

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Rasener
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:42 AM

The next time anybody takes the piss out of me for being a brummie, I am going to accuse them of being rascist. If the Scots, Welsh and Irish can do it, so can I.

All bloody ludicrous really. I find all the jokes (no matter how bad or distateful they may seem to some) about Brummies just humerous and never find them offensive. However if I had somebody who was obviosly aggresssive to me becuase I was a Brummie, that would be a different situation.

We have to be able to distinguish humour from rascism. There are some miserable buggers out there.

God help us if anybody ever forces The Black Country to be changed to anything else. When I lived in Brum, there was always great humour between us and the Black Countryites.
In fact if you listened to all the black country jokes, you would think everybody was called Aynock & Ali

Aynock: Wots the difference between a buffalo and a bison
Ali: Dow now mate
Aynock: You cor wash yer onds in a buffalo

Aynock always thought their Aylie was in need of a little ferther education so decided he would tek im to the big city, Bermingham.

Aynock took him round the city explainin what building was what and the local history attached to them. Eventually they arrived at Victoria Suare and by this time Aylies brain wus in a right spin, suddenly Aylie turned and saw the large building and said to Aynock 'is thet a palace our kid ', naa seys Aynock, that's the Council House. ****** hell ses Aylie I've got me name down for one of them.

White van man to pedestrian:
S'cuse me mate does yow now if there's a B & Q in Wolverhampton?
Pedestrian:
Sorry mate oi don't, but I nows theres 2 D's in Dudley


Now come on how many of you round the country have taken the piss by telling these sort of jokes and had no intention of being insulting to the Black country People. Simple humour but still IMHO funny and not offensive, even if it does portray them as a bit simple.

In actual fact the Black country dialect is one of the oldest dialects in the country.

Lets liven up and deal with more serious issues like stopping bully countries from going in and blitzing other countries, killing innocent people - Iraq springs to mind.

Likewise, lets start putting all these morons that wander our streets effing and blinding and getting rat arsed and having big fights etc, behind bars. I am more worried about the lawlesness that has slowly crept up on us and is threatening our own safety.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 10:11 AM

More's the pity, Al.

But the truth is that, as usual, it's a case of bone-idle, brain-dead so-called 'journalists' going for the lowest common denominator - they never allow real news about real issues get in the way of a good old-fashioned bit of rabble-rousing do they?

In the light of all the other serious stuff going on around the world, someone calling someone else a daft name on a private video (which should never have been published in the first place, IMHO), pales into utter insignificance. It's playground stuff, and if the worst thing anyone ever has to 'suffer' is being called a daft name by a pal, they'll be doing alright, won't they.

And the crazy thing is that, if this video hadn't been made public by these dopey journos, no-one other than a very small handful of people would have ever even heard what was said, and a very great many people would have been saved whatever 'hurt' or 'insult' they've chosen to feel. So who's the worse Racist - Harry or the Journos?

I know where my vote goes.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 09:14 AM

times change...the world changes. you can't say 'what you want' any more. and if we're in with a chance of it being a better world, if we give it a go. perhaps we all should. even members of the royal family.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 08:50 AM

Thanks Bubbly and Skipy, some common fuckin' sense being spoken at long last.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: skipy
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 06:28 PM

Guest Alan, then you are not close enough to them! If you & they are truly friends there would be NO problem. I spent 25 years in the military & never, repeat never saw any racism, but we called each other whatever suited.
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: bubblyrat
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 06:07 PM

Just a few years ago, the late Anglo-Irish comedian Spike Milligan appeared on our television screens as a mixed-race Pakistani-Irish worker called "Paki-Paddy", and everyone laughed ! ( including the --er--um--people from Pakistan,shall we say ??). Personally, I cannot see what all the fuss is about. I am quite sure,and certain, that there are people in Wales--Scotland--France--Germany--Russia--Italy--Pakistan---India---Egypt---Turkey---Australia---Canada---The USA---Mars---Ursa Major---who all have less-than-complimentary names which they often use to describe ME, an Englishman !! In fact, I would be UTTERLY AMAZED if that were not the case !! And do you know what ?? I DON'T GIVE A FUCK !! Why not ?? Because I believe in HUMAN NATURE, and that is something that you will NEVER legislate against !I served for 11 years in the British Navy, and ,probably on a daily basis, I referred to Krauts--Frogs--Eyeties-Dagos--Slopeheads--Chinks--Wogs --Coons--Jocks-- Taffs--Brown Hatters- Poofs--Knob Jockeys--ShirtLifters--Ass(arse)Bandits--the list goes on and on and it was all POLITICALLY INCORRECT !! But hey !---That's Sailors for you!! We meant no HARM by it...we sought not to incite RACIAL HATRED by it...it was just the way we SPOKE about things and people.And ANYONE who seeks to take that away from us is a FASCIST !!And,if I lived in India, or Pakistan ,or Harlem,where I might get called "Honky", or "White Trash", am I going to burst into tears and 'phone the United Nations ?? No Way !! Come on, all you snivelling, sycophantic,bleeding-heart Liberal apologists out there ---get real, and get a life, and concentrate on some REAL issues, like Gaza and Zimbabwe. (Please !!).

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Alan
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 04:03 PM

He is a racist, simple as that. I have many great friends of differing race, but I WOULD NEVER CALL THEM THOSE NAMES.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Rasener
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 03:05 PM

When it suits it suits

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 03:01 PM

He should have called him a "Paddy".

There wouldn't have been quite as big a fuss.

Seamus

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:58 PM

Villan - I thin that Harry and Ahmed might indeed have been able to joke about it with each other.

Good for Him and Ahmed.

For many other Pakistanis, Indians and Bangladeshis, particularly from older generations, the word "Paki" is one ingredient in a package of abuse including other terms like "dirty" etc and also including violence and intimidation.

This is not something from ancient history but exists in peoples living memories and revives feelings of fear and pain.

As such it was foolish and insensitive of him to record himself saying it as there was always a risk that it might fall into the wrong hands.

That is why he apologized and he was right to do so and not to say something like "There's nothing wrong with calling someone a Paki."

I too have been in social situations where I have used words like that in Jest, and in the process fel I was disempowering them as terms of abuse.

As the years have gone by, the shock value of the humour has on the one hand worn off, so that all that remains is a term of abuse and on the other hand I have realised that the mutual testing of boundaries that went with it wasn't really something I needed to do anymore.

Nowadays I have become more considerate and as I have a million other ways to express myself I allow myself to see beyond obvious predictable areas of focus and I realate to people on more varied and interesting ground.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:54 PM

to be honest, I'd say this is a weird one.

I grew up in rural Lincolnshire, where you never saw a black face in the 1950's. for a short time (fifteen months) I went to public school where there were a lot of kids from all around the world and all the 'racist' terms that you heard on Til Death Us Do Part, were used a little in the way that Harry used them - not with anger, not with any idea of the violence contained within them, but with a note of humour in the voice.

The place I went after that was Exeter Tech college and there were loads of working class kids from Iran there, and in my public school ignorance I called one a wog one day, whilst we were playing football. It nearly caused a riot. I went home told my parents - they had no sympathy with me.

Basically this latest thing in the paper is England's ruling classes - so proud of their wonderful education system - having no idea of the world in which we live, and no idea of why it is sidelining this country to the role of an embarrassing - if occasionally entertaining - anachronism.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:46 PM

Teribus,

Can I be there when you test your theory out?

Please!

Lets go to leicester together and first we'll stop off in highfields and you can explain to the black community why its ok for you to call them "niggers", and then, dependant on time and other potential obstacles, we can go down towards East Park Road and you can explain to some Pakistanis why its ok for you to call them "pakis".

We could send the video to "who's been framed?".

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Rasener
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:46 PM

Rascist read Bully or worse.

I have spent many an hour with freinds who are Indian, Pakistani, Jamaican, West Indian, Jewish etc.
We have joked about each other using various words and just laughed about it. We have given as good as we get.

When are stupid politically correct people going to get it in their head that just becuase you use a word DOES NOT MAKE YOU RASCIST.

What is the world coming to.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Teribus
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:17 PM

"Funny that, but the word "nigger" is also used within the black community - is it OK and acceptable for anyone else to use the term?"

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Ternibis
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:12 PM

He also called muslims "ragheads" what about his real father Major Hewitt, he is said to be so angry.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:08 PM

Sugarfoot, you beat me to it. According to this Pakistani it is like the "N word."

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Stu
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 12:29 PM

""Paki" is an accepted abbreviation"

Really? I wouldn't say so and where I was brought up it was used pejoratively to denote anyone of Asian origin. When I moved away from the area to where I lived now a friend of mine came to stay and one of the maggots I laughingly called 'friends' in those days said to me "Christ - he's a Paki!". I had their measure before, but that sealed it.

It's a racist term and the way people have jumped to the defence of this over-privileged tosspot we all have to pay for is sickening. You'd get sacked for using that language anywhere else and quite rightly.

" It is commonly used within the Indian/Pakistani community in the UK and if it is OK and acceptable for them to use the term it should be likewise OK and acceptable for anyone else to use the term."

Funny that, but the word "nigger" is also used within the black community - is it OK and acceptable for anyone else to use the term?

No it isn't, unless of course you're a racist or some other breed of right-wing snotstain.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Teribus
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 12:01 PM

I thought that anonymous Guest postings had been banned?? Yet here we have two of them.

"Paki" is an accepted abbreviation - If you doubt that go to middle and far east. It is commonly used within the Indian/Pakistani community in the UK and if it is OK and acceptable for them to use the term it should be likewise OK and acceptable for anyone else to use the term.

The offence comes in how it is used, not in the term itself. There was obviously no derogatory intent in this case, and considering the shape the world is reportedly in at present, if this three year old story warrants being spread across the headlines of MSM, then we ain't in too bad a state.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 06:34 AM

What a shower of sycophantic prats - the man's a fascist, just like his old man - but then again, that's what inbreeding does for you.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 06:22 AM

Another classic Mountain out of a Molehill ! What I would like to know is who is the Git who (Probably for a LOT of Money) passed this video to the N o t W Its THREE Years old , for God's sake !

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: caitlin rua
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 06:03 AM

No, Guest Who Is Too Much Of A Coward To Sign Their Name, no one is saying that. If you'll take the trouble to actually READ what they're saying you'd realise that.

What bugs me is the way this trivial event has been trumpeted from here to Sunday and seven times round the mountain (which is actually a molehill). I don't mean Guest Alan, I mean the media. Does anyone really believe that Harry is the only one who talks that way? Is a common abbreviation and informal slang really that big a deal when it's not meant as a dedicated insult? Ever hear the way guys talk to each other in the pub or the locker room? (OK, so I've never actually been in a men's locker room when it's in use, but the school yard was enough.) Maybe we should just confine ourselves to Newspeak.

This sort of PC tut-tutting dilutes public awareness of all the genuine and harmful racism that goes on, covering it behind a smokescreen that tries to deter you from saying anything, until you get sick of monitoring every syllable for possible Offense. First speech, then thought.

You get Correctness Fatigue after awhile, which is a potent – but dangerous – equaliser.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 04:40 AM

What annoys me is the fact that the guy probably is from Pakistan anyway.... Paki is short for Pakistani..
Aussie is short for Australian... We use Yank for the Americans..... what is the big deal???
Our Prince was using the term... affectionately......
It is the army!!! Yes but it is also reality.
I personally do not call Pakistanis Pakis...out of choice... but do not see the harm unless it is being used in a malicious manner........ ie in racially tense or provocativer behaviour! Isn't this being PC lark going a bit too far?????

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Jan 09 - 03:27 AM

Johnny, this guys in the army - like i'm in folkmusic.

Dilletante, or what......its just somewhere where hopefully he can be kept further out of the public eye than if he were knocking back the diamond whites at University, and appearing on the Jeremy Kyle show with some dim bint saying, 'actually i love 'im ter bits, but he only visits the kids when he wants to have sex'.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Mr Yeahbut
Date: 11 Jan 09 - 10:48 PM

Yeah but... our young twat Prince 'Arry is in the effin army..

so what do you think his mate Ahmed and all the other robust young lads in his unit
'endearingly' call him for a nick name !!!???

get f@ckin real..

its the Army... !!!!

theres far worse going on in the world which should dominate todays news headlines..


ps.. I aint by no means a royalist [get rid of the effin parasitic lot of 'em I says..]
or a militarist apologist..


just a grown up bloke with mates of all colours and creeds
who merrily take the piss out of each other at work, down the pub,
and on the playing fields of merry England..

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Alan
Date: 11 Jan 09 - 08:34 PM

What a star indeed. So what do you all think of young Hewitt now.
Harry has put his foot in it just like the Queens husband has done a few times. In a video we see him showing him using racist insults The prince called one Asian trainee "our little Paki friend".A newspaper has a videotape shot by the prince as he was about to embark on training as a combat helicopter pilot in an airport for their flight to Cyprus.

Panning around the floor, over his bored or sleeping fellow trainees, focusing on his colleagues, Harry comments "now that is bad admin, bad admin" before it tracking over and zooming in on an Asian cadet yards away.
"Anybody else around here?" he asks. "Ah, our little Paki friend... Ahmed."
Ahmed is thought to be Ahmed Raza Khan, a Pakistani who won the award for the best overseas cadet at Sandhurst.
In a separate incident, the 24-year-old is heard calling another officer cadet who is jokingly wearing a veil on his head a "f***ing raghead".


Referring to the use of the word "Paki", a statement from Clarence House said: "Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term can be - and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause.
The Muslim Council of Great Britain, said that the remarks were "very, very disappointing".
"Many Muslims will be very disappointed that someone like that has used this kind of language and he really needs to come out with a clear statement distancing himself from this," he said.
A senior Ministry of Defence (MoD) official said "This sort of language is not acceptable in the modern army."
A spokesman for the Equality and Human Rights Commission said it would investigate.


The spokesman said: "These appear to be disturbing allegations and we will be asking the MoD to see the evidence, share their investigation with us and their plans for dealing with it."
The commission has been working with the MoD to deal with racism in the armed forces.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Apr 08 - 05:21 AM

Mr Knot's jibe about army cooks probably means
that he was one of the anti British protagonists
in the old Northern Ireland threads.
It was a lie they used for a while.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: theleveller
Date: 23 Apr 08 - 07:20 AM

"Joe, this dick has gone far enough - please close the thread."

Perhaps it would just be better if you and WK stopped calling each other names and behaving like naughty children. You both have valid points of view. So let's stick to insulting the useless royal drones that are wasting our money, instead of each other.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Windsor Knot
Date: 23 Apr 08 - 07:06 AM

Excellent post Backswoodsman on (22 Apr 08 - 10:37 PM)

Why can't we see more like that from you ?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Apr 08 - 05:16 AM

Amen, Sorcha.
But it's difficult! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 11:19 PM

Better yet, just don't respond at all. That drives them even more crazy.

I'm learning not to.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 10:37 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 04:28 PM

Instead of calling people "troll," respond in a civil and logical manner and don't take the bait.
You'll find this technique can work quite well - and you'll avoid making yourself look like a fool.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: irishenglish
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 01:09 PM

Quote your sources then, and your use of the quote about Harry contradicts what you have stated in the past. The least you could have done was link the article and say, "I don't believe Harry was in Afghanistan personally, btw" or something to that effect.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Windsor Knot
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 12:59 PM

For the attention of the backwardone. I repeated what was reported, their words not mine. Are you still digging holes for yourself with your teeth ? Insulted any more friends lately about their famiy ?

Teribus, Prince William spoke recently about time he spent with the Royal Marines. He referred to a story he heard about an army cook who boasted about being involved in interrogation on a music website. Did you see or hear that interview ? Ring any bells ?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 12:41 PM

All repeat after me:-

"Don't feed the troll, don't feed the troll, don't feed the troll, don't feed the troll.........."

If that doesn't work, try repeating the phrase "Talk to the hand, troll"

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: irishenglish
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 12:16 PM

When news broke that Prince Harry had been serving in the dangerous Helmand province, many British papers lionized his bravery and commended the military for treating him as "one of the lads." But others criticized the Ministry of Defense for allowing Harry to be put in harm's way.


I don't know Windsor Knot....if you wrote that then you must believe that Prince Harry did serve in Afghanistan. If you copied that from somewhere else, then the writer of that believes that Prince Harry did serve in Afghanistan, and you yourself have just contradicted yourself from earlier in the thread when you said-"Harry was photographed on a firing range in the south east, they couldn´t risk sending him into the line of fire. So to recap, you made an assertion that you refused to show proof for, you then either wrote or used a quote that goes directly against said claim. Wow, glad to see all the time since you last posted has been time well spent.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Teribus
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 11:40 AM

"Prince William flew a Royal Air Force Chinook helicopter to the home of that young tart, Kate Middleton's garden."

They don't call it the "Royal Air Force" for nothing you daft prat.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: GUEST,Windsor Knot
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 10:19 AM

Stevie was a talented artist. There is a big difference in a self made man and a couple of privileged free loaders.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry - What a star!
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 09:01 AM

Come on Drummer - you don't really want them to die do you? Stevie Ray Vaughn was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Why wish that on these two kids? That's pretty silly.