BS: NFL 2010 (US football)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:29 AM

I know how much a lot of Packer fans would like to win one without Favre. I also don't want to see the Steelers become like the NY Yankees in dominating the SuperBowl. But I hope the Steelers will win.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:23 AM

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I see what you were saying now. Not that the cops were backing off because they were on the payroll but that the other cops could not get a conviction because other cops on the payroll were lying for Ben. That is even worse.

Didn't the article say that the incident happened in a unisex restroom? If Ben, the girl and the off duty police bodyguards all were in that restroom, it must have been quite a party!!

By the way, if it was he said/she said, did it cross your mind that the investigators might have found mature policemen more credible than a drunk under-aged girl.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 12:44 AM

Signed, bitter Patriots fan.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 12:41 AM

Don't forget to pack those towels. Terrible as they are.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: LadyJean
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 12:16 AM

You know, you'd think after seven trips to the superbowl and six wins, folks in Pittsburg would be a little bit blaze' about it all. But they're all out in Black and Gold today, and there will be more tomorrow. I guarnatee on Sunday half the congregation will be in black and gold. Rise Up Steeler Nation!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 11:35 PM

I'm thinking slow cooked Yankee pot roast with garlic smashed potatoes. Or a lovely spinach quiche. (hah!)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 08:32 PM

I'll be buying Buffalo Rib-eye Steaks at Mold Farmers' Market tomorrow morning.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 07:47 PM

"Buffalo Chicken Wings, Pizza, and chips and dip..." Well, if you ingest a whack of that you just might not get laid again... maybe laid out!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 04:23 PM

I haven't told my wife yet, but before the Superbowl I've got five Rugby Union games to watch!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 04:01 PM

Jack his bodyguards were off duty cops that's on his payroll1 Read the artical. Look into it yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 03:57 PM

Go Pack

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 11:18 AM

Buffalo Chicken Wings, Pizza, and chips and dip ... the Superbowl tradition. I have a bit of a problem here at home. My other half loves the Packers. Yesterday I was informed that if I route for the Steelers this time around, my chances of getting laid again would be slim to nil. To which I immediately replied "Go Packers" LOL ....

Yee Gads, I now have to be a closet Steeler fan, hide my true feelings for the game. I wonder if I can pull it off.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 10:43 AM

The grocery fliers are filled with sales on snacks of all sorts, deli trays... there's a tray with a pile of deviled eggs... mmmmm.

I dunno what culinary crap I will indulge in. How's by youse?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 11:39 AM

Well all my pals from Wisconsin are emailing me ... this is going to be a great game I think, maybe one of the best all time. Sure hope it is .. I am thrilled .. I love both teams so I can only win this year. I give the Steelers defense the edge however, their O line is not what it was in the past, that will give guys like Clay Matthews a shot to shut big Ben down. The Steeler defense will put pressure on Rodgers, but you know with Driver and Jennings they will have completions. You can't completely shut that team down. The game I think comes down to defense and if Rodgers is hot, it will swing the Packers way if no turnovers occur. If the Steelers running game and defense click, it will be the 7th trophy for Pittsburgh. Going to be a great game.

Now in regard to Big Ben, as I said he has been wonderful to myself and to so many others. I never pay attention to rag magazines or web articles. I gotta go with the cops. He is no saint, there are few in the NFL or anywhere else for that matter that are saints. But he is no rapist. Likes to party yes, likes girls and beer, yes .. stupid action on his part playing into that setup .. yes ... criminal .. no way my opinion anyway. Maybe he has learned to watch what he does and says and who he is with .. I hope. I read a lot of BS about Tommy also that I knew for a fact wasn't true .. people like reading the bad

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 06:14 PM

Raptor we can read those articles for our selves and they do not back up what you were saying. A twenty year old, in a place where the legal drinking age is ends up in a unisex bathroom in a bar that according to the article you posted was racially somewhat segregated until recently.

It seems that the incident has shone a light on lax law enforcement in that small city, deservedly so.

There in no evidence that the cops were on Ben's "payroll." It was his birthday and he was on a drunken trip from his house on Lake Ocanee 30 miles to the north. He wasn't running an organized crime syndicate in a Chicago.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 01:10 PM

Tickets are impossible, You really need to know someone. I never ask, although I was given tickets each time my kid was there but they consider them part of the team. Each player and coach are given 10 tickets. However all their families want to go and their close friends. I always felt if someone gave me the tics I would be taking the seats away from someone's family so I didn't accept. I was offered every time the Pats played as I was on the charity foundation with Brady and a close friend of the offensive co-ordinator.. never accepted, never thought it was right to do so. Only if someone wasn't going to go and had extra then i would accept. Even then it is hard because they sell for thousands. My first thought would be sell them and give the money to the foundation.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 12:11 PM

Police didn't find it unfounded they decided it would be too hard to get a conviction seeeing as ben had cops on the payroll as bodygaurds and it would be thier word against some poor student that they got drunk.

It will be a great game though and its a shame you can't go.How does one get tickets to a bowl game anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 10:22 AM

Now if only some NFL kind coach or player will give me superbowl tickets .. hee hee ...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 10:21 AM

Holy Cow fun GNU, I did give ya a wave, cold cold cold ... wow what fun. I can't lose this SB season, I love both teams ... no doubt Steelers will pull it off however. Raptor, if he got away with those things then shame on him. I only know the police all looked into it and toss it all out as unfounded. However, if he did, shame on him. If people were just trying to set him up to steal his money, shame on them. My only experience is positive very positive so can't comment.

all my work meetings GNU, canceled. it is now 20 below zero all around the state. good thing too ... boy my head hurts ... coffee is a beautiful thing right now

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:27 PM

What a decent young man

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:21 PM

Lets hope this happens again

I'll be cheering for the Pack this time.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:16 PM

Just as I predicted...

Next:

Super Bowl

Steelers 24

Packers 17

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:09 PM

And neither team has cheerleaders.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:03 PM

The rapist wins again

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:00 PM

Packers vs Steelers it is. That's gonna be some smash-mouth football from two of the most storied teams in the NFL. Great matchup.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 09:26 PM

What a magnificient goal line stand by the Steelers defense. Steel curtain indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 08:22 PM

They look okay so far.

I noticed a big flash when the camera went panned by the 50 yardline... musta been Dan's teeth.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 07:28 PM

Steelers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 06:19 PM

I am happy. After Julis hit helmet to helmet I was pissed off... especially when he argued about it and then tried to get the crowd noise up seconds later.

Very impressive win by the cheeseheads... my bro woulda been happy.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 05:58 PM

And Da Bears respond in 81 seconds! Great ball!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 05:56 PM

Now, THAT is defensive coaching and call playing at it's finest! UNREAL! The Freezer? 338 pounds drops back in front of the slant and takes it home. Exciting ball to say the least!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 04:31 PM

I did not expect GB to dominate on both sides of the ball like that!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 03:14 PM

Wow! Cool coaching fake with the Fat Man on the last play of the drive. Rogers said they were gonna be patient and take little chunks and that was a big bite!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 02:57 PM

Cold, windy, might even snow... gonna be good!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 12:38 AM

I guess I gotta cheer for the Packers. Being they are a community owned team and all. Socialism does work! At least when it comes to football. Go Pack Go!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 02:32 PM

It's the Irish eh!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 02:04 PM

He is a scream, his brothers are a riot. The Kelly boys are a legend with their humor and antics and all in a positive manner.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 01:58 PM

Off topic, but, when I think of Jim Kelly, I immediately think of the grestest comeback game and then feel sad that he lost in two shows. I know... Dan Marino and a few others but I really was disappointed when Kelly lost out because he just seemed to be such a great guy.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 01:32 PM

Gary there was no excuse for that performance. I think they just didn't really take the Jets serious as they had blown them out a few weeks earlier ... The team I watch just didn't show up to play but the Jets sure did. Now Pittsburgh better take them serious, their coach seems to know how to motivate his team. I do however think the Steeler defense will rise to match them. I am hoping anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 01:04 PM

No doubt, Dan. Their recruitment under The Belly has been nothing short of amazing... now if he had just played some eh!!! Yes, I will never let it go.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 10:32 AM

J-boy, Tommy and crew will be back for sure. They are a great team every year. They still got their someday "hall of fame" coach. Still got the best QB in the league. Thing about them, every year they are a contender. They will as always make another run at it next year. Our Buffalo Bills here, ya gotta go back to Jim Kelly and the time my kids were in it to have something to look forward to. At least the New England folks have something to look forward to every year. Been 11 years since the Bills were in the playoff's. I think the difference between teams is the organization itself. I was on an airplane going to Wisconsin for example and the guy next to me was all decked out in Steeler stuff. We got talking, he was a scout for the Steelers. I asked him what college was he going to ... he said no I am going to the High Schools to get some players on our radar .. They start at the HS level! That is why each year they are in the hunt. My bet, the Pats do the exact same thing.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:59 PM

It is shaping up to be an NFL Sunday for the ages ain't it? Which is good since we may not get a season next year. I weep at the thought.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:44 PM

naw PACKERS either way that will be the game for sure holy cow what a match up. and of course big ben and pittsburgh, he always signs stuff for sick kids for me. can't wait till sunday

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:25 PM

One thing, the security around the girls is first rate and that helped. I never missed a game when my kids were cheering, not in HS, college, or the NFL.   Never missed an Ironman except this last one in Hawaii but my wife was there (I got sick). For the cheerleaders it is a wonderful fun time. I was very proud of them making the team . Most of the fans were fine, some were awful, a couple tried the stalker thing ( I handled that real quick) I am just glad it is over but happy they had such a wonderful experience. My oldest gets invites still from Jim Kelly for his golf outing along with so many of the other Bills greats and Patriots greats also. just glad its over from a dad standpoint

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:24 PM

Cheer for DA BEARS

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:20 PM

I didn't want to start yet another Mudcat debate here. I don't think looking at cheerleaders is perverse and I don't think they're being exploited. I love to admire women also, sometimes they are the only ones who make life worth living. I guess it's just a matter of personal taste. But more importantly...only three games left! Who the hell do I want to win? Give me a team to cheer (heh) for.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 10:58 PM

Well put gnu! As a musician in my twenties I loved it when the opposite sex oggled me and catcalled while i was performing. having your looks noticed and remarked on or whistled at is not a bad thing or exploitive. I don't know one woman who doesn't love being told that she is beautiful. As for men that is one of the top qualities we look for in a mate. You can dissagree and pretend its shallow all you want but i'll call you a liar or a unick. As for the woman they spend a lot of time and money on triing to look thier best.

I have seen the buffalo fans get rude to the cheerleaders but I'd bet they do it despite the jerks because it's fun not because someone is forcing them to do degrading things. I even know a girl who made a living making x-rated films and loved it no regrets now years later. She wasn't exploited or forced into it. There is nothing wrong with beauty but the ones who seem to get upset at the thought of it seem to be the ones who lack it and are jealous.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 08:53 PM

After my oldest left the NFL she took up an easy sport, she now is a ranked ironman competitor along with her husband. They made it to the world championship race in Kona. First I had to worry about football fans, now I gotta worry about injuries from that insane competition... ever read what the ironman involves .. Holy Crap.

I will say this GNU, both kids love the NFL. Raised a lot of money for all kinds of charities, traveled a lot and have lifelong friends including some hall of fame players and coaches. But as a dad, I hated it!! LOL

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 08:21 PM

The cheerleaders are sexual objects... period! It's a sad thing in a way, no doubt... IN A WAY. But, if it helps them make some money for some harmless (yeah, I know) titilation, I say go for it and take every penny to the bank.

I blame guys like Dan. If he wasn't so good looking he wouldn't have daughters so good looking as to be so admired for their beauty and thus be paid to cheer for the eye of the beholder. Shame on you Dan!

WTF? They are young women. They look great. I like to look at ANY good lookin woman of any age, including Dan's daughters. That is not perverse. That is not exploitation. That is reality. Telling me I should not look at women from a male perspective is just strange. And I can prove it... on Sunday.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 09:52 AM

J-boy I completely agree with you ... Steelers do not have cheer leaders never did. The Green Bay Packers at each home game feature a local high school cheer leading squad to give them some time. I like that idea better and the fans tend to behave when it is kids out there. I hate the whole idea myself. Rap, although I still have season tickets to the bills games, I never go. My wife and her friends are huge fans and never miss a game but at the time the Bills were so good, I was happy to see them do well. I only went to the games to see my kids.