Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 09:27 AM

Thread 17153 (listed as Loch Lomond- the 5th one!) has the unrelated song "Banks of the Roses")

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 07:12 PM

^^^

Might as well add this one, too, it just keeps getting more interesting, too! I'll get these all added into the list by tomorrow. Thanks!

Sing A Song of Sixpence(Why 4 & 20 Blackbirds Baked in a Pie?)

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 07:04 PM

^^^

Interesting one:

Mary Mild

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 05:26 PM

^^^

Bury me not on the Lone Prairie?
(The Dying Cowboy) Excellent thread!

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 12:29 AM

^^^ Here are some more, Kat and George.

(De) Blue Tail Fly
Dixie; Dixie's Land
Farewell To The Mountains Davy Crockett
Garryowen
Wildwood Flower Includes original, I'll Twine 'Mid the Ringlets
Do Ye Ken John Peel?

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 01:06 PM

(Apparently Burl Ives never recorded One Meat Ball)

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 01:05 PM

^^^

One Meat Ball-Burl Ives
"Lone Fish Ball," the first version from 1855, in the thread.
Your way probably best- change the title too much and the person checking might think he has errored.

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 12:11 PM

^^^

Hound Dog Original Version??

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:41 AM

That's fine, George. I'll go with what you guys post, okay? Any clarification can be in parentheses and I will do the cross-referencing as much as possible, when it seems a good idea. Thanks.

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:39 AM

Katlaughing. Sometimes I use the thread as named, but other times, I (like on the Waltzing Matilda series) try to clarify by the more common name.

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:34 AM

Dicho, please submit them, exactly as the thread is named. I like to keep the links literal, BUT you could put the real song title in parantheses. In the case of the Weary song being added to that thread, I see two options: 1) I will cross-reference with both titles 2) you could copy and paste the Weary song info into its own thread and I could link to it.

If any of you would prefer I do it a different way, please let me know. I am always open to suggestions.:-)

Thanks, I will add the newest later today.

kat

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:13 AM

^^^

Deck The Hall / Nos Galen

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 09:23 AM

^^^

In the Bleak Mid-winter

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 09:15 AM

Maybe put song title first and thread title after in ()?

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 09:13 AM

^^^

Lads of Virginia -Weary in Virginny, O
The history of an entirely different song (Weary...) was added to this thread. I have tried to add it to the original thread title. Still has to be printed twice so it can be found.
How should these be submitted?

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 08:51 AM

^^^

Jacamo finane?
Actual title IKO IKO

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 02:26 AM

^^^

Ah! Great Kat.

Here's one I never noticed before:

Waltzing Matilda / Craigielee
Waltzing Matilda / Bonnie Woods of Craigilea
Original Waltzing Matilda
Rochester Recruiting Sergeant

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 01:59 AM

Ha! *bg* Sorry, George, I should have made note of my adding that to the list. I had the inside track in that Mary in KY told me about it in a PM before she started the thread. I left it with the old spelling, though. It's pretty tough to "scoop" you!

Thanks, guys!

kat

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 01:55 AM

^^^

Thanks Dicho.

Christmas Comes But Once A Year

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 12:40 AM

^^^

Help: houlihan? Old Paint
Good-by, Old Paint (Lomax cpl. 1910, also 1938 versions)
I Ride An Old Paint (Larkin 1931)
This is the best thread with the complete songs and reliable term definitions

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 12:08 AM

^^^ Lest someone misconstrue, Thanks, Dicho. You're right. I should have listed it by the more common name.

Be Thou My Vision / Rop Tú Mo Baile
Buain Na Rainich / Tha Mi Sgìth

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 12:07 AM

Great finds, Simon-Pierre, nice to see you!

Dicho and George, I've put a note beside both listings to see the other, so people looking for either, "Ballad" or "Massacre" will know.

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 10:39 PM

I had listed it as Massacre of Glencoe. Ballad is more common, though.

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: simon-pierre
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 09:40 PM

^^^

I didn't see these two, wich includes great comments:

Ella Speed

Delia

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 06:23 PM

^^^ Ballad of Glencoe

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 05:19 PM

Oh, that's great, Dicho! Took me a minute to figure out you meant the actual thread of each song, rather than the PermaThread or this one.:-) Thanks!

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From:
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 03:51 PM

Never thought about that, but you're amazing Dicho. Thanks

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 03:06 PM

Kat and George, the list is useful in another way. I ran across Oh, Dem Golden Slippers! on the American Memory site. The song is in neither the DT nor the thread put in your permathread, so I added it to the thread you cited. It is now easier to make additions and corrections, at least to those songs on your list.

Subject: Origins of: Found on Mudcat -PART TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 02:06 PM

George Seto's original thread: Origins of: Found on Mudcat is getting a bit long, so here's a fresh one to post your links and comments.

BTW: this symbol, ^^^ , means I have transferred your link from this to the permathread. So I don't get confuzzled.:-)

Don't forget, we now have a Song Origins PermaThread, where your contributions will be added to the alphabetised list.

Thanks!

kat

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