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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 07 - 10:10 AM

Sounds good, SRS, on all counts.

Salt is nother one of those "enemies" that athletes and highly active people soon discover is their friend, at the right time and in the right amounts. So is fat-- if you cut too much you won't have enough for the fat-soluble vitamins you'll also need.

BTW fat is a great fast-burn source of burnable calories. If you are going to go right off to a vigorous activity, THAT is the time to have that hight-fat item you love because that fat will not clog anything or be stored anywhere-- it will immediately and efficiently burn for quick energy.

Before my metabolism converted from the muscles I developed, I had a lot of trouble staying warm enough in the water where I worked out. Carbs were not processing properly.... The answer-- half of a McDonald's double cheeseburger off their dollar menu, just before hopping in and the other half midway through a 2-hour pool workout. Plenty of energy (sometimes I skipped the bun in an Atkins approach) and nothing gained but more muscle. I know, "McDonalds, yeeeecccchhh." Cheap and appropriate to the body's needs at the time, though, salt for sweating, and no excuse not to eat no matter how crazy-busy I am because it's right next to the pool.

Better to eat something else, of course-- but better to eat MickeyD if you haven't eaten at all and if that is all there is. Do what you need to do on the day, and THEN plan to do better the next day.

[insert standard disclaimer-- YMMV and check with your doc or dietician regarding your particular medical issues.]

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Sep 07 - 12:09 AM

Ah, that sounds good, then! Have fun!


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 10:56 PM

I'll need the salt, mowing in the heat. And I'll be eating some spinach, which is good to help reduce cholesterol.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 10:40 PM

Lot of salt in that and cholesterol, SRS. Otherwise it sounds good!


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 05:59 PM

I will be using my homemade wheat bread (1 1/2 c whole wheat plus 2 1/2 c white flour) and a home grown tomato and Romaine lettuce along with mayo and bacon for a BLT for dinner. Don't count the calories. I'm going to be doing yard work and cleaning the garage this weekend. It won't hurt. Veggies, meat, carbs, fat. Maybe I'll go get a dark beer to wash it down. Sounds good!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 03:14 PM

Beer - Especialy the dark heavy brews. All the calories you will ever need and more. Like Garg says full of vit B as well and, for those who advocate more fluids, remember it is also around 95% water:-)

D.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 27 Sep 07 - 10:33 PM

How can you say HOW EASY - and then HOW COMPLEX?

What keeps a Gargoyle going? Along with a pint of foaming homebrew (lots of B-vitamins in those yeasty-beasties....just swish the bottle and swill it down.)

PanCakes - Pankuuken

One serving size for breakfast and part for lunch.

One cup whole wheat flour
1/4 cup buckwheat flour
1/4 cup dehydrated powdered milk
One teaspoon BAKING Soda
Handfull (20?) Raisins
One half once soy protein
MIX and MIX (by hand - not electricity required)

Blend (by hand)
One egg
One Tablespoon Soy/Peanut oil
Three Tablespoons Yogurt (reacts with soda to produce rise)

1/4 cup milk

Let rest for 10 minutes / or overnight.

You have protein, fat, carbo, dairy, fruit - a perfect combo - baked "hoe-cake-style" in a cast-iron skillet done in five/seven minutes.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

mother was a diabetic, she was a degreed dietician, studied under Adel Davis ... entire family raised/indoctrinated on a "no sugar" (NOT THE SLIGHTEST) regeim.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Sep 07 - 09:20 AM

mg, I agree that nutrition is far more complex than much of what issues from doctors' offices and their organizations, but I encourage you to learn more about nutrition from the athletic side because ahtletes know their stuff-- they live it-- and they come from all body types, all metabolic "issues" and disorders, and all ages. And they have research to support it.

Many people are still stuck in the "I can't" do this or that mode, because they hear and reject the mass media's coverage of "official" (MD-driven) "facts." These folks are so often unaware of the relatively easy path of "Here's how I can" reach their fitness, sport, or weight goals-- that path is nebulously "summarized" in the doc's office under "lifestyle changes" they are usually unable to expand upon. But the information is all readily available in Sports Nutrition.

I'm very fortunate to have found a RD (registered dietician) here some years ago who also ran track and, by the time I knew her, had become the local uni track team's nutrition advisor. She started me on this Sports Nutrition path back when the Internet was a little harder to wring info out of-- Despite my medical and metabolic problems later in life, I had been and still considered myself an athlete. My workouts were more "athlete" in style and intensity than "fitness."

That info was hard to come by in those days, and expensive to find if you could find it at all. Most RDs were focused on the AMA-style of prescribing starvation, and my metabolism issues of course worsened under their "care." But now, any runner, cyclist, or swimming community is chock full of that information. (Just like Mudcat is chock full of folk music.)

It's in print, too. Last night I had the opportunity to cull the files of the fitness bulletin board our little local fitness center has, which consist of years of articles from various sport and fitness publications. And there is all the same Sports Nutrition information, from a hundred angles.

So the information is out there, if you want to update what you think about "some people." And if you yourself are one of those people-- there is some real good news waiting for you out there, as well as right here, upthread.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: mg
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 10:11 PM

The food pyramid has been seriously challenged and doesn't work for many people. Some people should not eat fats sparingly, and if they do eat fats sparingly, when they need more fats, they get unwell, including diabetic. Read body typing books...not blood typing...basically 4 types..one is great on vegetarian, one is great on "balanced diet", one needs more lean proteins, and one needs heavier proteins and fats. The ones who get into trouble are the ones who need the heavier proteins and fats but social pressure keeps them from merely eating what they need..think Eskimos etc...

So most of advice out there works for the vegetarians..I stopped eating meat and I feel so great (if I did I wouldn't feel anything at all because I would be in a coma)...and for the balanced dieters..and perhaps a bone is thrown to the light proteiners...the last group, and I am in it...are given bad advice..so our situations deteriorate. The only thing that kept me from getting worse, and I am pretty badly damaged from metabolic syndrome etc..is knowing enough biology to not totally believe them when they said if you eat too much meat your bones will leach calcium etc. Others have not been so lucky.

You absolutely can not just read medical journals on this because they are not behind the 8 ball and some medical professionals give very bad advice..as in their patients don't get better or get worse. You have to read what biochemists, and anthropologists and experimental psychologists and sociobiologists and others have to say as well and it is pretty much converging on a new, or maybe not new, because people knew it in the past, approach to diet that will correct some of the craziness of the last few decades...so one diet of course does not fit all...look at what your ancestors ate, and if they are all from one part of the world, and they were healthy, lean toward what they ate...mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 09:57 PM

We have an old thread around here somewhere on po' folks' food as well; maybe some kind soul will dig it up and put a link in here to it.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: GUEST,milly-S
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 09:54 PM

OMG !!!!- what a dogends sorry godsend this posting is becauce my better half and I have been boing sorry going round and round over ground on this issue that no one else in foodgroups newsgroups will answer how many calories and how much protein in one tablespoon of kikkoman soysause mixed with less than half teaspoon of seasmee oil mixed with one tablespoon salt we use it on the pork strips before the noodles are fried in the remaining oil with a small budget and winter at the door we are attempting to pack in as many calories before we eat the wolf or the wolf consumes us and we only become part of a folk talk told by fich rat yomen in new ork.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 01:31 PM

Stubbs Bar-B-Q Sauce. Two tablespoons are 15 calories. 0 Fat.Sugar 4 grams. Carbs 5 grams. Sodium 210mg. And it's a nice spicy sauce. Good stuff made in Austin Texas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 09:46 AM

Reposting in categories. Obviously since these are "condimentiary" in nature they are mostly sweets and fats. Remember the food pyramid-- "use sweets and fats sparingly"? These would be the amounts, within a training regimen.

Thanks, all.

~S~

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SWEETS

2 Tablespoons Jam, 90 Calories
4 Tablespoons Barbecue Sauce, 80 Calories
1-1/2 Tablespoons Honey, 96 Calories
1/2 Cup Cool Whip, 120 Calories
1 Cup Apple Juice Or Orange Juice, 100-120 Calories
1/2" Slice Jellied Cranberry Sauce, 86 Calories
2 Tablespoons Maple Syrup, 104 Calories
2 Tablespoons Smucker's Chocolate Flavored Syrup, 110 Calories
2 Tablespoons Smucker's Butterscotch Or Caramel Flavored Syrup, 100 Calories
1-2/5 Ounce (40 G) Wegmans Sweet Chili Sauce, 100 Calories
8.0 Gram (1/4 Ounce) Pickled Ginger (Sushi Condiment), 3 Calories
4 Tablespoons Tamarind Sauce, 100 Calories


FATS

2-3 Teaspoon Olive Oil, 80-120 Calories
1 Tablespoon Peanut Butter, 96 Calories
1 Tablespoon Butter, 100 Calories
1 Tablespoon Tahini, 89 Calories
1-1/2 Tablespoons Pine Nuts, Dried, 88 Calories
5 Anchovies, European, Canned In Oil, Drained Solids, 42 Calories
1/8 Cup Roasted & Salted Sunflower Seeds, 95 Calories
2 Tablespoons Thai Kitchen Green Curry Paste, 20 Calories
2 Tablespoons A Taste Of Thai Panang Curry Paste, 50 Calories
2 Fl Ounce Thai Kitchen Premium Coconut Milk, 115 Calories
1/2 Cup Canned Chicken Gravy, 94 Calories
2 Tablespoons Thai Kitchen Peanut Sauce, 70 Calories
1/2 Cup Canned Beef Gravy, 62 Calories
2 Ounce Sun Dried Tomato Pesto Sauce, 98 Calories


DAIRY

1/2 Yogurt (3 Ounces), 95 Calories
2/3 Cup Unsweetened Whipped Cream, 100 Calories
1 Serving Tzatziki Gyros Sauce, 54 Calories


GRAINS

1/2 Granola Bar, Crumbled, 95 Calories
1/4 Cup Wheat Germ, Toasted, Plain, 108 Calories


PROTEIN

1/2 Hardboiled Egg, Chopped, 105 Calories
3 Tablespoons Compliments Bacon Bits, Simulated, 90 Calories


FRUIT

1 Medium Banana, 100 Calories
1/4 Cup Craisins, 104 Calories
1/5 Cup Raisins, 104 Calories


VEGETABLE

1/4 Cup Cole Slaw, 93 Calories
4 Tablespoons Eden Foods Wasabi Powder, 40 Calories
1/6 Cup Miso, 94 Calories


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 09:56 PM

Yup.

A diabetic friend taught me: a fruit, a carb, and a protein in every meal, snack, or even thinking about a snack. Result: Even, constant energy burn as first the fruit, then the carb, then the protein kicks in. Like burnign mixed woods in the furnace. Not all pine and not all hardwoods.

The quantities can be quite small but they need to be there, and in the right balance.

Also, we burn more immediately after eating than we would (for the same effort) if we had not eaten.

The trick to be athletic AND lose fat is to build muscle (requires a bit of added protein), to eat enough to fuel the sport/workout while still burning some of the stored fat, and to keep the metabolism up and running with either long, slow exercise or short bursts of faster exercise between rest periods. Also, the calories and nutrients needed for recovery after vigorous exercise (muscle repair and sustainable energy) are most efficiently utilized for that recovery within an hour of finishing the effort; wait longer and you'll feel (and eat as if) you're twice as hungry as you actually needed to be.

Finally, eating too little of one food group can leave you feeling so hungry you will eat ANY food group. So veggies need to be in the mix as well as dairy, in addition to the fruit/carb/protein habit.

And of course the more complex the carb, usually, the better.


The body learns from these changes if the activity level stays up, so that the same simpler carbs that used to instantly go to the hips or belly instead remain in circulation for the next high-energy "sporty" activity. This is why cyclists can (must) eat so much pasta, and why they time it a certain number of hours before a ride (for riding energy) and a certain number of hours after the ride (for recovery to be ready for the next ride).

My sport, AquaRunning, consumes as many calories as would running on dry land. Not jogging-- RUNNING. Do that an hour or two five times a week and before long there will be pasta and baked potatoes involved. This is the difference between the kind of cravings that are part of a food addiction and the kind of messages a body needing the correct fuel will send-- the kind we need to listen to, respond intelligently to, and not fight with.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 09:31 PM

Back in the years when I was climbing mountains every weekend I ate anything I wanted and still stayed in shape or lost weight. Took lots of carbs with me, and that was the recommendation. A blend of protein and carbs to get the benefits of fast energy from the carbs and the slower payout from protein. I had a lot of trail mix and hard candy as well for those times when I couldn't stop to eat anything else or if everything else ran out.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 09:25 PM

What's dulse?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Bee
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 08:28 PM

Oh yes! Dulse shredded in bits gives baconbitty ooomph to a salad (and has good minerals and iodine as well).


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 07:05 PM

4 T Tamarind Sauce, 100 calories

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 07:00 PM

Silly ME!

4 T Eden Foods Wasabi Powder, 40 calories, whoo hoo!
1/6 C miso, 94 calories
1-2/5 oz. (40 g) Wegmans Sweet Chili Sauce, 100 calories
3 T Compliments Bacon Bits, Simulated, 90 calories
2 T Thai Kitchen Peanut Sauce, 70 calories
2 T Smucker's Chocolate Flavored Syrup, 110 calories
2 T Smucker's Butterscotch or Caramel Flavored Syrup, 100 calories
2 oz Sun Dried Tomato Pesto Sauce, 98 calories
1/2 C Canned Chicken Gravy, 94 calories
1/2 C Canned Beef Gravy, 62 calories


No, this is not a recipe!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 06:41 PM

1/8 C Roasted & Salted Sunflower Seeds, 95 calories
1-1/2 T Pine Nuts, Pignolia, Dried, 88 calories
5 Anchovies, European, Canned In Oil, Drained Solids, 42 calories
2 T Thai Kitchen Green Curry Paste, 20 calories
2 T A Taste Of Thai Panang Curry Paste, 50 calories
2 fl oz Thai Kitchen Premium Coconut Milk, 115 calories
8.0 g (1/4 oz) Pickled Ginger (Sushi Condiment), 3 calories
1 serving Tzatziki Gyros Sauce, 54 calories


Thanks, peregrina!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: peregrina
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 12:20 PM

I can't reckon up the calories, but here are some suggestions for savory additions that add a lot of flavour:

toasted sunflower seeds; toasted pine nuts; fake healthy bacon bits made by marinating small pieces of smoked tofu in soy sauce & baking; garlic and anchovy fried in olive oil; thai green curry paste stirred into mayonnaise; japanese ginger pickle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Bee
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 11:55 AM

Those of you who hate sports and live far from gyms and love dogs - get a BIG dog. My big old girl kept my weight in control for many years, and I have really noticed that my activity level dropped way back when she died. We went for long walks at least twice a day, and the companionship and the pace she set made it a very fine exercise. I miss her dreadfully, and I'll be happier and healthier when the next right dog shows up.

About water: most people like water, but some of us, like myself, don't like it very much at all. I've learned to drink enough of it by the simple method of keeping a glass or bottle of it near me all day. For me, it is a chore to drink a whole glass of water, but by having a mouthful frequently, I find by the end of the day I've put back quite a lot.

Another very low cal meal, not nutritionally complete perhaps, but a good light supper choice if you've eaten a good breakfast and lunch - and like broccoli:

Broccoli broken in bite size pieces. I peel and quarter the stems. Add a few slices of onion and a crushed garlic clove, some fresh ginger and a pinch of anise. A cup or more of chicken broth. Tablespoon of oil to fry up the garlic, onions, ginger, add broccoli, toss a bit, add broth, simmer until tender. At this point, you could just eat it as is. Sometimes I add a sprinkle of cornstarch to thicken the broth, and sometimes a dash of soy sauce.

Again, the flavours are strong and satisfying. It's a modified stirfry, of course, but its virtue is that it is very simple to make and involves very little effort.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 10:21 AM

Ever hear of the dichotomy, Eat to Live vs. Live to Eat? If the activity level goes up, so does the capacity to Eat to Live.

Taste buds change, cravings change, responses to food textures change, brain chemistry changes. I had heard that theorized, but it was not until our summer vacation that I saw it in practice.

My husband and I focus on our respective sports; my BIL and SIL who we were visiting focus on their scales and their tastebuds. Guess which couple managed to find time to squeeze in their sport workouts even while on vacation, and guess which couple were gorging at the restaurant meals?

Yes, my husband and I enjoyed some treats, but in small portions. Not by discipline, as might have been the case formerly-- but because eating as much as the other couple just FELT.... gross.

Yes we took a bite or two of whatever was passed to share-- but we were fine with just the tastes, and filled up much sooner on far less food than our counterparts. They dreaded returing to their high-paid gym trainers; we looked forward to our next day's sports plans. And let me tell you, we had a lot of challenge in those plans from weather, facilities, and equipment problems-- mere grist for the problem-solving mill.


As an athlete, I eat to live. At the pool I divide lunch into two mini-meals. In these mini-meals, the grapefruit I hate otherwise tastes GREAT after a hard running set. Once or twice a month (now that I have all these muscles itching to burn fat) I live to eat, in much smaller quantities than before.

If you focus only on the food and treat it as an enemy, you spend far more mental energy and angst than if you simply get moving. Yes, it took a year to convert my metabolism. Yes, I thought I would never lose, never feel well, never get strong without hurting all the time, never change measurements. Yes, menopause complicated things metabolically. More mere grist.

It takes longer if you don't start. Once you start, though, what you quickly discover is that road cyclists, runners, and swimmers actually know a thing or two worth studying and emulating. And that is-- DUH, we need calories! :~)

~Susan-with-results-and-poolful-of-people-with-results


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: mack/misophist
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 10:07 AM

I lost over 100 pounds and have kept it off for about 2 years. The regimen includes weekly "fat farm" meetings that remind you that you can never quit or it will all come back. Some of the other members of the group insist on tasty meals made with "real" ingredients. They are all fat. Forget delicious. My own approach in to limit the things I love to once or twice a year; in limited quantities only. Of course, your mileage may vary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 09:29 AM

mg, you cannot do sports nutrition without carbs. Even the most severely diabetic athletes emphasize carbs in balance with other nutrients, and the glycemic index (burn speed) of carbs. Complex, high-fiber carbs in combination with protein are essential to energy production and utilization. (If you AquaJog or AquaRun, this becomes obvious in the first half hour of the activity.)

This thread is not essentially about weight loss, but nutritional choices within a training program. Certainly a physician familiar with anyone's metabolic issues should guide those choices; when they do, complex cxarbs will definitely be part of the guidance.

Treating any food group as an enemy just doesn't work. We do not need to fight an enemy to be well-nourished and active; we need to work with the tools of energy in a way that produces the results we desire.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 06:30 AM

Your local hospital and/or nursing school likely has a "Registered Nurse/Dietition" who would have numerous resources to help with your questions. It's an established "specialization" in nursing that's often overlooked by even the physicians who prescribe diets for people, and the ones I've met have been happy to have a bit of attention and recognition of their skills.

If you'd like a conversation starter, ask one how many calories in a 4 ounce serving of fried squirrel. Guaranteed to make them pull out every book they've got, but you might get their interest up.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: mg
Date: 25 Sep 07 - 12:10 AM

Starches are the absolute worst for some people, including very many who are overweight..and what are they told to eat? mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 11:38 PM

Worrying about calories just makes you worry more about the diet. I like Bee's suggestion, the pickle with the cheese gives a good contrast in flavors and feel of the food. It's a mistake to cut fat out of your diet when you're trying to lose weight. (Get rid of the sweets and you'll do a lot better!)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Bee
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 10:39 PM

You may laugh, but my favourite 100 cal treats are:

one oz. cube low fat hard cheese (emmental, farmers', mozzarella, etc.) with one large kosher dill pickle

Rye hard toast spread with small amount lobster paste, romaine leaf to fit, and skim milk cottage cheese heaped on top, all dusted with fresh ground black pepper

There's also a yummy salad (a meal, but can be split into good size hundred cal bowls) consisting of tuna, celery, apple chunks, pineapple chunks, skim milk cottage cheese (just enough to scatter curds through salad), onion, black pepper - you can add to this base. It needs no dressing because the cottage cheese and pineapple juice mingle to provide great flavour.

These all provide strong flavours with a hint of sweet, and are very satisfying. They also almost 'measure themselves', once you've prepared them a couple times, so you're not forced to go through the dismal routine of tablespoons and cup measures.


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 10:07 PM

1/4 C Wheat Germ, Toasted, Plain, 108 calories

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 07:19 PM

I don't know what the calories are but I like Wheat Germ on stuff. Hot cereal, ice cream, salads, etc


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 07:08 PM

It is, on a sandwich, in a lot of delicatessens.

1 T tahini, 89 calories

Live a little! :~)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 05:02 PM

Whew. I can't say I consider cole slaw a "treat" or a "topping."


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 03:30 PM

Those are all side issues to the issue at hand, which is what to add for flavor on top of well-balanced, healthy meals. FOOD IS OUR FRIEND.

Here's what I have so far, but I'd really like to hear more on others' "treat" preferences:

2 T jam, 90 calories
1/2 yogurt (3 oz.), 95 calories
2-3 t olive oil, 80-120 calories
4 T barbecue sauce, 80 calories
2/3 C unsweetened whipped cream, 100 calories
1-1/2 T honey, 96 calories
1/2 hardboiled egg, chopped, 105 calories
1/2 granola bar, crumbled, 95 calories
1/2 C cool whip, 120 calories
1 T peanut butter, 96 calories
1 T butter, 100 calories
1 medium banana, 100 calories
1 C apple juice or orange juice, 100-120 calories
1/2' slice jellied cranberry sauce, 86 calories
1/4 C craisins, 104 calories
1/5 C Raisins, 104 calories
1/4 C cole slaw, 93 calories
2 T maple syrup, 104 calories

T = tablespoon
t = teaspoon
C = cup

Source: http://www.calorie-count.com/

As far as "which kind of peanut butter, yogurt, etc.," I used the numbers for the full-fat, full-sugar varieties unless otherwise specified.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Searching for Calories
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 02:40 PM

How many carbs? How much sugar?

How much is a teaspoon of real butter and a tablespoon of real maple syrup? And if they are overweight from metabolic syndrome, which so many of us are, they probably want to forego the french toast altogether, whole grain or not. I am not convinced jam is an improvement if it contains a lot of sugar. But the starch in the bread is worse by far. mg


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Subject: BS: Searching for Calories
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 10:08 AM

Calories are good for you.

I'm teaching some folks how to AquaJog (now that I am AquaRunning), and nutrition is a big aspect of it. The online calorie databases I have found seem to work in one type of serving size-- ounces for instance-- while food portion databases seem to use different units (tablespoons, for instance).

Anyway-- what I am looking for are people's favorite 100-calorie toppings of yummy add-ons to the dieting recipes I have-- in measures we have in our kitchens-- because these are the calories the exercisers need to ADD. Can y'all help me out? What 100-calorie item would add the flavor YOU crave that makes "healthy" food taste great?

One example-- 2 T Dickinson's cherry/pepper jam = 90 calories. Added on top of wholegrain french toast (instead of butter and syrup) it's DELISH and "good carbs."

~S~


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