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Subject: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 08 Jan 10 - 01:43 PM I have a sore on my throat just under my larynx that just wont heal. Been through three courses of anti biotics and my ENT doensn't know what it is. So, he sentenced me to a CT scan which I had this morning. I've always healed up much quicker than anyone I know but not this time. It's just one damn thing after another. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Becca72 Date: 08 Jan 10 - 01:51 PM Your immune system is shot because of the radiation and all the damned antibiotics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 08 Jan 10 - 01:51 PM Sometimes, a deep infection needs to heal from the inside out. The doctor puts a sort of tape through each side. Twice a day, you slide the tape back and forth to keep the incision scab free so it heals from the inside out. This can be a real problem if you have your ear pierced and then let the hole heal over. It forms a cyst and a recurring infection site. I have seen people with a golf ball size infection on their ear lobe. GROSS! Given your medical history, Captain, and the radiation, better to be safe than sorry. Your doctor is right to do every test and err on the side of caution. No fun for you, I know. No fun for Jacqui either. Maybe some lobster would help? SINS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 08 Jan 10 - 01:53 PM No Becca. Kendall is right. He usually heals amazingly fast. The cut from his back hoe ride was gone in days. Whatever - he can't be too careful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: gnu Date: 08 Jan 10 - 01:57 PM Nuts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Becca72 Date: 08 Jan 10 - 01:57 PM This spot on his throat is significantly deeper than the cut from the back hoe. I agree he needs to be careful but I also know I've had many abscesses like the one he had and they take a long time to heal. Couple that with the fact that the one on his throat is gigantic and there you have it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: pdq Date: 08 Jan 10 - 02:07 PM Check to see if a local hospital has a Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber. As they say: "it couldn't hurt". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 08 Jan 10 - 02:24 PM The technician at the CT lab said she would get the results to my ENT as soon as possible because of the possibility of cancer. My ENT just called to tell me it is NOT cancer. His advice is to keep it moist and not let it scab over. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 08 Jan 10 - 02:39 PM Some good news at least. Good luck with it all Kendall. keith and Mary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rasener Date: 08 Jan 10 - 02:46 PM Time to get the beer and wine and whisky flowing Kendall. Sorry to hear you are still suffering. Hope it sorts itself quickly. Les |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 08 Jan 10 - 03:08 PM Now where did I put that single malt...? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: GUEST,MikeL2 Date: 08 Jan 10 - 03:18 PM hi kendal Sorry to hear about yet another problem. Having been through the throat cancer loop I know what you are going through. I too had problems after bouts of laser and radio radio surgery. I live in NW England and over here The National Health Service respond VERY quickly to patients who have had cancer ( despite what the critics say). I saw doctors and consultants who examined me and put my mind at rest. It is only natural to be concerned.....we all are !!! After a short while the sore throats ceased with the exception of the odd dry throat ( especially afetr I have a tipple or too...!!!). I have now started to sing again....not in public only to myself and sometimes a microphone ( my wife calls us the 2 Mikes...lol) I don't have the range or the power as before ( no bad thing !!!) but I am having an interesring time re-arranging all my songs into registers and ranges that I can manage. Stay with it.....we are all with you. Hope this helps. Regards Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Donuel Date: 08 Jan 10 - 03:24 PM Slow vs won't heal is a wide divide to check out. I can once again walk after 20 months of being disabled from both achilles tendons tearing and swelling. By the time I sought specialst care in Nov. it started to heal most rapidly with no treatment. Slow but it did heal significantly. In fact I even think better. About 22 months ago I was sprayed with pesticides over the fence by my neioghbors lawn care cretin. That made the 3rd exposure in 6 years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 08 Jan 10 - 03:25 PM Skin can take far longer to heal with diabetes sometimes, Kendall. My skin used to heal very fast, but now, it doesn't. Not always though, and that's the strange part. Sometimes I heal in a few days, others it's weeks or months..Bit bloody annoying, but it happens. I hope things start to heal over soon and that's good news from your specialist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 08 Jan 10 - 03:28 PM Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall - PM Date: 08 Jan 10 - 02:24 PM The technician at the CT lab said she would get the results to my ENT as soon as possible because of the possibility of cancer. My ENT just called to tell me it is NOT cancer. His advice is to keep it moist and not let it scab over. And just what did that cost you? I gave you the same advice for free. Very glad there is no cancer Captain. Very very glad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rapparee Date: 08 Jan 10 - 04:44 PM Have your doc check it for MRSA. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rasener Date: 08 Jan 10 - 04:48 PM Wouldn't he be a corpse if he had that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Jan 10 - 04:52 PM Hold it a sec. Explain something. Backhoe? Is this a typical surgical tool up there in New England? What was used to make the current hole, a front end loader? ;-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Becca72 Date: 08 Jan 10 - 05:41 PM Rap...the doc already did check for MRSA. Nada |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 08 Jan 10 - 06:22 PM When part of where they cracked me open on my chest wouldn't heal, the surgeon said to put antibiotic ointment on it. I did and it was worse because it made me itch like crazy. I thought itchy might signify healing, so I tried to leave it alone. It was scary to look at and I was afraid to touch it. It was dark with under-the-skin blood and pulsed. Finally, out of desperation and due to intuition, I cleaned the ointment off, esp. after finding it had lanolin in it which I am allergic to(!) and used a diluted solution of iodine (betadine) swabbed on it. Iodine kills germs etc. In just a couple of days it was healing and within a week it was much, much better. My vet told me about iodine. He said never to use ointment on a pet's wound as it smothers the area so that it can't get oxygen which helps with healing. He recommends diluted iodine for any cuts, abrasions, and closed wounds. Hope this helps. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Donuel Date: 08 Jan 10 - 06:29 PM mrsa can be long term chronic. ITs not like necrotizing fascia. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 08 Jan 10 - 07:59 PM That area has been flooded with radiation which retards the healing process. Iodine stings like a bitch but it makes sense. I'll try it. Becca, I don't think it's an ingrown hair because it is well below the beard line. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 08 Jan 10 - 08:10 PM It's not like that stuff our moms used to use and stung, Kendall, at least not what I got at Walgreen's...no sting, esp. diluted a bit with water. Hope it helps. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jeri Date: 08 Jan 10 - 08:22 PM The radiation would have damaged cells, hopefully most of them were cancer cells. There IS no radiation now, although maybe the cells may not reproduce like they used to. Hell, a lot of things I have, including mosquito bites, don't heal anywhere near as fast as they used to. It really does sound more like an ingrown hair or a cyst with something stuck in it than anything else. Also, just because I talked about mosquito bites up there, is there any chance it's an insect/arachnid bite/sting? Not all of them will cause itching. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Monique Date: 08 Jan 10 - 08:45 PM Try lavender honey |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: olddude Date: 08 Jan 10 - 09:07 PM ok captain a urine sample to your doc, you would not be the first friend i have known who's sugar got wacked from chemo , do that please get better soon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 08 Jan 10 - 09:10 PM I just put some Iodine on it, the neighbors thought a fire engine went by.JEEZ IT STINGS. Honey sounds good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Leadfingers Date: 08 Jan 10 - 09:11 PM Gawd Mate ! Hope that settles down soon ! You have enough to worry about already |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Jan 10 - 09:38 PM Christ..........I'm gonna' quit logging in........... I just posted about Tom and then I read this...........All I have right now is a head cold that I'm watching carefully but I read these damn threads and I feel sicker all the time. I think its related to some kind of hypochondria. I was sitting in a Doctors office once and was reading pamphlets and discovering I had everything. Then I read one and just knew I had PMS..........so I quit reading the damn things....... I think I would take Dan's advice though and get a check on diabetes. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rapparee Date: 08 Jan 10 - 09:43 PM Not a bad idea at all, at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 08 Jan 10 - 09:52 PM Sorry it stings, Kendall. Monique, thanks for the link. I'd forgotten about honey and that site has some wonderful info! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: JohnInKansas Date: 08 Jan 10 - 11:26 PM Kendall - The old stuff was "tincture of iodine." Iodine "dissolved" in alcohol. It stings, partly because of the iodine but mostly because of the alcohol required to "dissolve" it. If you bandage a cut you've put it on, it can blister the skin. If you use it too frequently on a spot it can permanently change the skin color. Excessive use can damage your thyroid function(?) and for that reason it's sale is limited in several states. If mixed (correctly) with ammonia, it makes a dandy explosive. The new stuff is "isodine" in which the iodine is part of a slightly more complex molecule, but is released as free iodine as the compound breaks down (more slowly). It's most commonly sold in my area as "Betadine," which I think is just a "trade name" for it. Isodine/Betadine doesn't (in any case I've seen) sting, but is as effective as the "tincture" at killing the bugs. Ask your local pharm shop. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Jan 10 - 12:37 AM Betadine is still used in operating prep all over the country. Its cheap and we keep it on the shelf at home. Unless you're into the "No Pain, No Gain" thing, its the stuff to use. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Monique Date: 09 Jan 10 - 04:34 AM Green clay poultice could help too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Morticia Date: 09 Jan 10 - 06:07 AM I know things simply take a lot longer to heal when your system is shot, I had a small cold sore on my lip that didn't heal for months and months and there was nothing wrong with me but being a bit run down. Be well soon, dear, you have enough to be getting on with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 09 Jan 10 - 06:47 AM No more Iodine for me; I'm tougher than Japanese math, but that's just too much. I put some honey on it and a band aid last night. Slept like a baby, (awake every two hours looking for a nipple). Seriously, I think the honey is the best idea yet. After all, it is used to cure stomach ulcers.Thanks, Monique.And thanks to John; you are wise beyond your years. I'm not diabetic, I just checked my glucose and it was 115, after a cup of coffee. It's always a bit high first thing in the morning, but it drops to around 90 or so in the late afternoon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 09 Jan 10 - 06:56 AM I happened to find some honey in the cupboard. Jacqui must have bought it, it's raw and unfiltered. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Monique Date: 09 Jan 10 - 07:19 AM Raw, unprocessed honey is what you need. I spoke lately with a beekeeper and he said that honey looses its properties when warmed over 40°C (104F) - "Excessive heat can have detrimental effects on the nutritional value of honey.[45][46] Heating up to 37°C causes loss of nearly 200 components, part of which are antibacterial. Heating up to 40°C destroys invertase, an important enzyme. Heating up to 50°C turns the honey into caramel (the most valuable honey sugars become analogous to sugar). Generally any larger temperature fluctuation (10°C is ideal for preservation of ripe honey) causes decay.[47]" from Wiki. In your case lavender honey is best because of the healing properties of lavender. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Backwoodsman Date: 09 Jan 10 - 08:07 AM Kendall, I'm surprised your glucose is high first thing - mine is usually low-to-spot-on, due to the 10-or-so-hours I've fasted since dinner. When I read your first post I immediately thought 'Diabetes!'. I don't understand the measuring conventions in the USA, you have a different system to us over here, but what is the 'normal' or 'recommended' level? How does '115' compare against that? Here, we aim for 6.5 Mmol, and mine is almost always between 5.5 and 6.5 first thing (unless I'm a naughty boy and eat cake at bedtime!). You say you're not diabetic - have you had all the tests for that (including the Glucose-Tolerance test which indicates the rate at which your system deals with a large, rapid intake of glucose)? I know your system's been beaten with several very big sticks this past few years, but don't disregard the possibility of Diabetes. It, too, is a killer. And, of course, very best wishes for a good outcome. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Backwoodsman Date: 09 Jan 10 - 10:01 AM Sorry Kendall, I meant to say "It, too, is a killer if left untreated, but treatment is easy and very, very successful". Apologies for my original, thoughtless, phraseology. Every good wish. J |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jeri Date: 09 Jan 10 - 10:26 AM Honey is a natural antibiotic. See this part of the Wikipedia entry on honey. I wonder though, that if the antibiotics didn't work, whether it's actually an infection or something else (already mentioned). The honey won't hurt anything though, and will likely help any sort of healing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Bert Date: 09 Jan 10 - 10:51 AM Vitamin E can also help. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rapparee Date: 09 Jan 10 - 12:00 PM Colloidal silver might also help, if you have any of it sort of laying around. It's not the type of thing you'll find at your local pharmacy, though. And for God's sakes, man, don't try to cut it out and hope that the cut will heal better! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 09 Jan 10 - 02:54 PM Colloidal Silver in quantity and over time will turn Kendall's skin blue. He'll look like Poppa Smurf. I don't suppose anyone here is considering that he just listen to the doctor? So far iodine and honey and then silver. If it doesn't heal, Jacqui is going to have a lot of splainin' to do to the doctor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 09 Jan 10 - 03:53 PM Hmmm..JohninKS, the bottle I have of iodine, Walgreens' own brand, says "Povidone Iodine 10% Topical Solution" and I can guarantee it does not sting. Also, there is no alcohol in it. Main ingredient is "providone iodine USP, 10% w/v (equivalent to 1% titratable iodine)" and inactive ingredients of "citric acid, glycerin, Makon8, purified water, and sodium hydroxide." At any rate, I am glad to hear the honey may be helping, Kendall! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: GUEST,Helen, cookieless Date: 09 Jan 10 - 04:23 PM Hi Kendall, sorry to hear you have yet more trials and tribulations to deal with, but I'm sure you'll beat this one, too. The first rememdy I always try is tea tree oil, from Australia. I'm pretty sure it is available in the US. There are very, very few skin complaints that it doesn't seem to help. It is anti-bacterial and anti-fungal. I dilute it with water if it is for something which might sting, by wetting a cotton ball and then putting a couple of drops of tea tree oil on the cotton ball. It clears most things up within a few days. But another excellent natural healer, especially if the wound needs to be kept moist, is aloe vera. You can either split a piece of aloe vera lengthwise and place the gel sides down on the wound and then put a bandaid over it, or you can get the aloe vera gel in a tube from pharmacists (drug stores) or health food stores. Both of these remedies would work well with each other, and with the honey, too. Take care. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 09 Jan 10 - 04:43 PM My Doctor is keeping an eye on my glucose. I just checked it, 91. Excellent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Ebbie Date: 09 Jan 10 - 05:58 PM OK, I'll chime in with another alternative: Papaya swabs. It is used in nursing homes to cure and to prevent open bed sores. Marvelous stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 09 Jan 10 - 06:13 PM I'm making a list of suggestions. Tea tree oil is next. I'm glad I have so many bright people looking after me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 09 Jan 10 - 07:14 PM Good call, Helen! Tea Tree oil is available here. Also, aloe...I keep a bottle of gel of it in the frig for all kinds of things. Don't know why I didn't think of it. The coolness when it's in the frig is really nice when put on a burn or anything else that is "angry" looking (skin-wise only!**bg**) Well, except that you can also drink the juice. It's good,too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: GUEST,Helen, cookieless Date: 09 Jan 10 - 08:07 PM Yes Ebbie, I forgot about papaya. Someone told me about it recently and I bought the ointment. I scalded myself with steam from the electric jug a couple of months ago - not intentionally, of course. It switched off and I reached in front of it just as a last puff of steam came out. It was pretty bad because I foolishly didn't stop to do proper first aid, and I lived with the consequences of that for about a month. In the end I used burn gel, antiseptic cream, tea tree oil, aloe vera plant & gel, and papaya ointment. (I forgot about aloe until I Googled burns treatments. I raided my aloe plant which was quietly chugging away in a pot, hidden by other bigger plants. I moved back the other leaves and here was a big crop of aloe, just waiting to help me out. I stuck a couple of little plants in another pot and it is doing nicely. too. It grows by just sticking some of the "leaves" in the soil, as well.) My scald got better much quicker when I started using the aloe vera & papaya as well as tea tree oil, but the red mark is still there. Now I'm treating that with aloe vera plant and it is slowly fading. But tea tree oil is always the first thing I use for just about everything. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 09 Jan 10 - 09:47 PM I have a choice between Lavender Tea tree oil or Tea tree oil skin cleanser. The skin cleaner stings a bit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jeri Date: 09 Jan 10 - 10:09 PM Kendall, the doctor threaten amputation yet? What happened to the honey? Or are you trying several things at the same time? You can probably mix the oil into the honey with some vitamin E and betadine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: GUEST,Helen, cookieless Date: 10 Jan 10 - 12:16 AM Hi again Kendall, It's probably important to know what else is in the skin cleansing oil. If it has a lot of other ingredients it may not be the best option for putting on a sore. Of the two choices, the lavender may be a better option. Here in Oz, we get the tea tree oil on its own, with nothing added, and it's excellent. Check the label of the cleansing oil to see if it warns not to put it on broken skin, etc. Re; stinging, that's why I dilute it with water on a cotton ball, to stop the stinging. And re: Jeri's question, I tend to use natural remedies like aloe, and tea tree oil and honey etc simultaneously, or alternate between one and the other because I'd be very surprised if they interacted in a bad way. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Jan 10 - 12:24 AM Are you interested in what wound clinics do for such problems? I've been there and done that and it was some of the most valuable info I ever got.....and it works! If you want things to heal that are hard to heal, this is what they train you to do.....this is what they use and this is how and why it works......... PolyMem Dressing are made by Ferris in several different forms but for most uses the "Pink" will be fine. They make a colloidal silver dressing and it works like a champ but it costs a minor fortune. Go the your pharmacy and get two products: 1) PolyMem pad (pink will work fine) measures about 3x5--Made by Ferris 2) Tegaderm Dressings 6x7 cm(a bit over 2x2 inches)----Ref#9505W--You will need a couple of these. The pads are not cheap but you only need one. You can cut it to the proper size and then reseal the rest for future use. It may take doing this twice to fully heal but it works and is most prescribed by wound clinics in hospitals. Cut the pad to the right size and save the rest. CLEAN the area with saline solution (IT DOES NOT STING)..Use no medication of any sort, just clean and dry the area. Place the pad over the wound and cover with the Tegaderm bandage. Done neatly, they are quite tight and waterproof, completely clear except for a label area where you can write the date. Now you do nothing except to keep it on for about 4-5 days then remove it for a look. DO NOT CHANGE THE DRESSING DAILY or even every 2 or 3 days. Read the info below to see how polymems work. Rebandage as you did before if needed and check again in 4-5 days. Now if you don't believe me, feel free to call a hospital or a wound clinic and ask them. They all know and use these products daily but it is about the best kept secret I can think of when it comes to the general population. Once you experience the amazingly fast healing of even the most difficult wounds, you'll keep the things around just for the little stuff too. READ ABOUT POLYMEM HERE Put the honey on a biscuit, wash yourself down with the tea tree oil and have an aloe rubdown, then go to the pharmacy and get some polymem and tegaderm........... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: gnu Date: 10 Jan 10 - 07:00 PM Great info Spaw.... thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 10 Jan 10 - 08:31 PM Jacqui just mixed up a potion of Honey, vitamin E and lavender oil. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rapparee Date: 10 Jan 10 - 09:52 PM Papaya contains papayin, which is marketed as (in the US) "Adolph's Meat Tenderizer." This is useful for some things, but I wouldn't put it on a wound. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Jan 10 - 11:51 PM Far be it from me to push a proven medical approach because you never know ......... The other stuff might work......... Plus there might be other fun side effects........ Like this friend of mine......Couldn't do the Viagra thing and found out about this other "natural" method where he made up a salve of tomato paste, pickle juice, mustard seed, and dehydrated onions, in a base of peanut oil.....He rubbed it on and the damn stuff worked great!!! Regained his sex life!!!! 'Course whenever he drives past a McDonald's he gets a boner............................... So have Jacqui standing by with a baseball bat.......With the smell and consistency of the goo you got there you'll have guys coming up and wanting to fuck your neck......... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 11 Jan 10 - 07:39 AM It has escaped! Someone left the cellar door open. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 11 Jan 10 - 08:23 AM You're putting raw honey on an infected wound???? Re-read Spaw's post... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jack Campin Date: 11 Jan 10 - 10:06 AM I have quite often used manuka honey on infected wounds that don't respond to povidone iodine (Betadine). Usually it works very well - there is some extra antibacterial ingredient other kinds of honey don't have. Whan it doesn't, the next step is oral antibiotics. Marion here had a nasty dose of oozing cellulitis a few months ago and it took three successive different types of antibiotic to deal with it - together with gel dressings like the ones Spaw described (though with the amount of ooze, they needed changing twice a day). Manuka honey works very well on genital herpes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 11 Jan 10 - 11:55 AM I have a follow up with my ENT tomorrow. He will determine the next step. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: EBarnacle Date: 11 Jan 10 - 01:26 PM Regarding honey, my understanding is that it is bacteriostatic, not antibacterial. People often use the words interchangeably. Urine, unless you have a UTI, is also bacteriostatic, which is why soldiers have been known to urinate on the wounds of a friend. [Just a friendly, caring thing, y'know.] |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: mg Date: 11 Jan 10 - 01:33 PM Check into myrhh with someone who knows about natural healing. Was used for mouth infections for a long time. I do not know enough to say anything more. I think you can get toothpaste made of it..likewise tea tree oil..check it out. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Hollowfox Date: 11 Jan 10 - 08:39 PM This is just a note to let you and Jacqui know that there's a %$#-reduction candle on the hearth for you. Like you both,it lights up my living space, and warms it a bit as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jeri Date: 11 Jan 10 - 09:11 PM No, honey is antibacterial. Articles in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine and in Medscape are just two of those on the 'net. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Jan 10 - 09:28 PM ENT DOCTOR RAPES LOCAL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rapparee Date: 11 Jan 10 - 10:09 PM Spaw, I haven't read anything like that since about the time LBJ became Prez. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 12 Jan 10 - 10:09 AM Spaw, you are lucky she can't be reached for comment. Doctor asked what I was putting on it and I told him Honey, vitimin E and Lavender oil oil. He said "Keep doing that." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: jacqui.c Date: 12 Jan 10 - 10:12 AM Spaw - no comment - I'm what passes for a lady around here. Just know that the outhouse is cooled down and waiting for you right now. Hollowfox - thank you! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Backwoodsman Date: 12 Jan 10 - 10:15 AM You always pass as a lady OK when you're in Gainsborough jacqui! :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 12 Jan 10 - 10:19 AM LOL But you still have to go down to the cellar. Watch out for the bee hives. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 12 Jan 10 - 12:54 PM The out house? Spaw would be right at home out there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 12 Jan 10 - 01:12 PM olddude and Spaw aren't allowed in the basement anymore. Only the outhouse. Didn't know she had let them out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: jacqui.c Date: 12 Jan 10 - 01:15 PM The rascals keep escaping - must get that padlock fixed.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: olddude Date: 12 Jan 10 - 01:15 PM LOL, SINS, why do I have to stay in the dog house, Spaw did it not me I am an innocent party to this ... LOL ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Rapparee Date: 12 Jan 10 - 01:37 PM Prisons and outhouses are full of innocent men -- just ask them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 12 Jan 10 - 01:54 PM Outhouse, dude. Outhouse. Only Seamus and I are allowed in the doghouse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Tinker Date: 12 Jan 10 - 07:50 PM Oh my.... this thread is like falling down a rabbit hole.... WTF If you click more info on the right the lyrics will appear.... Sorry Kendall (says Tinker who knows Kendall will not be amused...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: kendall Date: 12 Jan 10 - 07:58 PM You were right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: sing4peace Date: 12 Jan 10 - 09:39 PM Kendall - I'm glad you are taking the advice of the honey mongers. I used it for bedsores when my Mom had them. The nurses and I had a contest with my Mom as the lab rat (cooperative soul that she was). I used a honey/iodine combination on my side and they went with the conventional "goop" on theirs. My side healed within a couple of days, theirs did not. My mother was a diabetic with a whole lot of other problems but once we figured out this concoction, she didn't get bed sores anymore. I'm also glad that your doctor didn't just gasp in horror and insist you go with something pharmaceutical. You're lucky. Hope you are on the mend. Peace, Joyce Katzberg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: My guru always said Date: 13 Jan 10 - 07:56 AM Glad you're trying out your Honey kendall, keep it up *grin* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 13 Jan 10 - 08:18 AM I can't access Tinker's link - Barracuda block at the office. Tomorrow's the day - Good Luck, Captain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 10 - 12:02 PM Neat graphics/effects, Tink, but I'm a bit concerned at your apparent decamping from trad music!:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: gnu Date: 13 Jan 10 - 02:30 PM SINS... Kendall was right. When you get home, don't bother with the link... WTF does not stand for Was That Folk. Tinker... no offfffense intended. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Tinker Date: 13 Jan 10 - 08:34 PM Hey I followed one of Dani's links on facebook that led me to this group...... (She started it.....) Having just read 'Spaws comments and the follow up and then seeing the visuals.... and imagining Kendall's pained expression .... Never mind.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 10 - 09:48 PM LOL! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: GUEST,Kendall Date: 14 Jan 10 - 07:49 AM Well, today's the day; another invasive procedure on the road to recovering my voice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 14 Jan 10 - 07:57 AM One step closer to your voice, Captain. Good luck. M |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Jan 10 - 08:18 AM What's the problem with an invasive procedure? I've had lots of invasive procedures. If the "I-P" is my best chance to fix something, I'm all for it. If I were in your shoes, I'd be discouraged as all hell based on what's happened so far. But if they told me my best chance to fix the problem, even partially, was by pouring hot lead up my ass, then I'd be greasing up a funnel! So sit back, ride the elephant, and hope for the best. If this works....GREAT! If not, you made the best decision based on good information......Move on. Worry and kvetching about it is just counter productive. And remember that, in a way, ____________ (supply your own euphemism for fucking) is an invasive procedure unless the guy has a really tiny dick........... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jeri Date: 14 Jan 10 - 09:26 AM One big party after another. My 'invasives' have included knees and sinuses/nose. Technically, I don't think they're truly invasive until the doctors are fondling things that you usually keep in a dark, damp place AND (just to make sure vaginal or proctological exams aren't included), if shot, seriously damaged or eaten, are likely go cause death. Catspay, that language thing was very sensitive if you. Kendall, positive procedures to you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Jan 10 - 10:03 AM Well, you know me Jeri. I hate to offend and I truly care about what others think of me...............So it was only natural that I would strive for good taste............ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Donuel Date: 14 Jan 10 - 02:25 PM gotta trace this |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: ClaireBear Date: 14 Jan 10 - 03:16 PM Oh, Kendall -- pulling for you, plus maybe another p-word that I won't mention due to your delicate sensibilities. You are about due for a good break, I reckon. Hope it comes! Promissory note: hugs and a bottle of good single-malt when next I see you. Claire |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: gnu Date: 14 Jan 10 - 03:20 PM Well? I am getting anxious for an update. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 14 Jan 10 - 04:22 PM To soon. Today is prep; tomorrow is surgery. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Bert Date: 14 Jan 10 - 04:36 PM unless the guy has a really tiny dick........... You should know Spaw. Hey Kendall, if getting a cheap shot at Spaw makes you laugh and feel better then I'm sure he won't mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 14 Jan 10 - 04:48 PM Meant too soon Is Spaw homosexual? This is news to me. Not a problem just a shock. SINS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: gnu Date: 14 Jan 10 - 04:52 PM Homosexual? Nahhhh... too ugly for that. Of course, looks don't matter for a good reach around, eh, Spaw? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: GUEST,999 Date: 14 Jan 10 - 04:54 PM Best wishes to you, Kendall. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: EBarnacle Date: 14 Jan 10 - 06:12 PM Why are you asking whether he is hobosexual? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Jan 10 - 06:45 PM That's what I get for bummin' around on this thread.... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: jacqui.c Date: 14 Jan 10 - 07:16 PM We're at the hotel, had a good meal and a couple of glasses of wine, so Kendall is nicely relaxed. A whole afternoon of testing in a very busy hospital. Kendall was feeling the strain but kept the medical staff laughing. He has to be at the hospital at 8am for his operation at 10.15am. We're about a two minute walk from the hospital, so no problem there. He's kicking against having to stay in Boston tomorrow night but I'm happier that they want us to do that, just in case of problems. The hotel is comfortable, the restaurant served up a first class meal with excellent staff, so we think we'll be using this hotel for further visits, which will happen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jeri Date: 14 Jan 10 - 07:31 PM Any clue on what the giant festering wound on his exterior neck is? I'm guessing they aren't that concerned if they're going to invade the inside of his neck. Enjoy the hotel, sleep well, and easy everything tomorrow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 14 Jan 10 - 08:15 PM +sPEND THE NIGHT. sEAMUS IS SNUGGLED UP ON THE COUCH AFTER AN EVENING MEAL OF KIBBLE AND HAM. h EIS LOOKING FORWARD TO WARM BREAKFASTS. sO STAY. OOOPS Damn Capslock! Spoke with Jacqui. The Captain seems to be in rare form. I will spare you all the details. Surgery tomorrow. Cancer free and home an Saturday. I will accept NO ALTERNATIVE! Love, Mary |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Jan 10 - 08:23 PM Yeah Sins.....that's just great................But here I am....stuck on this damn thread and being told I'm a hobosexual.............I mean like.....How would you feel if you were suddenly told you were a lessbrain...........Is that possible? Could we both be goy? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Jeri Date: 14 Jan 10 - 08:44 PM More like 'meshugana'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Jan 10 - 08:46 PM ...yeah.....there's that too............ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 15 Jan 10 - 08:35 AM You have no one but yourself to blame, Spaw. You brought up the Munchkin named Richard. Today is the day. A baby blue room awaits you in the Mudcat Recovery Ward, Captain. Be well, my friend. Mary |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Richard Atkins Date: 15 Jan 10 - 12:57 PM Have been thinking of you both today, that probably doesn't help a jot, but positive thoughts have been winging their way across the pond! Love & HUgs, Hil xx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: gnu Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:25 PM Twiddle twiddle... Twiddle twiddle... Twiddle twiddle... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:33 PM Meantime, Richard and Hillary - I love the Green Man. Jacqui wrapped it in scrap paper and handed it over in a Target bag leading me to assume I had been gifted with yet another piece of hideobilia. But instead of a gilded angel I got a gelded green man. Thank you. Mary |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: olddude Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:41 PM LOVE YOU FOLKS get better !!! Thats and order !! Dan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:42 PM gnu? What are you twiddling with? Go wash your hands. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: gnu Date: 15 Jan 10 - 02:05 PM I am twiddling my thumbs awaiting word, grasshopper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: katlaughing Date: 15 Jan 10 - 03:23 PM ...gelded green man Of what good is a "gelded" green man?! Were they traditionally eunuchs? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: SINSULL Date: 15 Jan 10 - 04:15 PM Have no idea. But with the gilded it had a nice ring. And i only got the head. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Lox Date: 15 Jan 10 - 08:44 PM Kendall. That's enough. ok? Good. Now get well quick! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Jan 10 - 11:56 PM The recovery ward is going to be full. What with all of that Grammy activity and all. Who ordered the pink flamingos? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sore that wont heal From: maeve Date: 16 Jan 10 - 05:54 AM I'm following along, Kendall, whether I post clever remarks concerning Spaw and the gang- or not. maeve |
