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Subject: Men's Mudcat From: Jon Freeman Date: 02 Jul 00 - 01:39 PM Hey Guys, I think it would be great for us to set up a mens only spot within the mudcat. Can we set a time where we can get together, say for an hour, and post on male issues? The females are of course welcome to come along and read the threads. Please do not worry about the fact that this is a public forum, it doesn't really matter any more than any feeling Max may have on this usage may be - all we need to do is accuse him of being sexist and of trying control things if he does and don't buy any excuse that he may give suggesting that he is trying to keep a facility open to all at all times. Jon
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: kendall Date: 02 Jul 00 - 01:52 PM Old Maine proverb..The more you stir a turd, the worse it stinks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: DougR Date: 02 Jul 00 - 02:55 PM Hmmm. Kendall, we have found another point of agreement! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: kendall Date: 02 Jul 00 - 03:26 PM oh oh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: DougR Date: 02 Jul 00 - 04:44 PM Kendall:maybe you're becoming a Conservative! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Ebbie Date: 02 Jul 00 - 04:59 PM They say that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. That seems to equally apply to Jon, at the moment! Hey, Jon, please don't internalize the hysteria from the other thread. I'm a woman but I think neither sex has an exclusive on pettiness. I enjoy HearMe a lot, partly from your 'handling' of the site and I don't for a moment believe that this is an issue of control and sexism. (More like PMS!) See you on HearMe...Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: bbelle Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:01 PM Or, Ebbie, perhaps it's a classic case of UMS ... Ugly Mood Swing ... and women and men alike can get it. moonchild |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Sailor Dan Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:10 PM Jon a mens only is not really necessary, now is it? And moonchild you were your ums very well Sailor Dan By the way moonchild if you would like to tell me what your real feelings are, PM me. Dan ] |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Jon Freeman Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:14 PM Sorry Ebbie and I will stop now. I never saw HG's post suggestion as being feminist and did not expect the replies that suggested that I was trying to be controling or being sexist on what I had tried to address in general terms. I remain deeply saddened that some people who I had considered to be friends and I had respected should manage to misinterpret my words so badly and my first post here does not reflect my beliefs but the way my words were used against me. Such is life and it is time for me to let it drop. As in the Ancient Mariner, I walk away a sadder and a wiser man. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Amergin Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:24 PM You ain't leaving are you, Jon? I hope not.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Jon Freeman Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:30 PM Not from Mudcat, Amergin, just from the debate and that is for the best really. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Amergin Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:36 PM Ok, glad to hear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Sailor Dan Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:44 PM Jon No matter what you say and no matter what you do in this life you will find that some dont agree, a lot dont agree and others just dont care. It isnt worth your being upset by the disagreements. Hell the way you hit the roof I thought you were IRISH like me. "BG" To a lot of people the grass looks greener elsewhere, people always like to try new things, it helps them grow. But they usually return to the tried and true and like everything else it blows over. Keep your chin up, a smile on your face and your temper down, (unless your true Irish):) and the wind in your sails. Sailor Damn or DAn or dan or oh what the hell :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Terry K Date: 02 Jul 00 - 05:56 PM Jon, I know how you feel - you do your best for people and they fly at you because of their ignorance - it would make anyone depressed. I was going to intimate in the other thread that the offender may be in her early 50s, perhaps having the occasional hot flush etc - some of the signs of irrationality that many of us have been subjected to. But I thought maybe I shouldn't. Bite your lip, Terry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Bill D Date: 02 Jul 00 - 06:23 PM with apologies to the ORIGINAL Stern Old Bachelor
"I am a stern old bachelor
CHO: (feel free to mess with this...or leave it lie..the muse works strangely sometimes...*grin*) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: katlaughing Date: 02 Jul 00 - 06:47 PM Those are power surges, Terry and rather than pointing at one sex, I like what Moonchild said in the other thread, i.e. it's not PMS, it's UMS Ugly Mood Swing, and anyone can have them.**BG** Don't bite too hard!(NOI=no offense intended.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: kendall Date: 02 Jul 00 - 07:16 PM Doug, really now, I see no reason to insult me.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Ebbie Date: 02 Jul 00 - 09:14 PM I agree with you all about UMS; it took me many years before I realized I had it in my power not to buy into it- that I needn't poison my own well, that it's a matter of choice. And I choose happy! As for friends turning on you, Jon, friends do that only when and with whom it is safe to do so. And hey! If you can't forgive friends, who can you forgive...Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: catspaw49 Date: 02 Jul 00 - 10:27 PM Listen....I just got back and, skipping past the stuff that got all this started, I think this idea has great merit. Can we get some servant types and some good seegars, stock up on some 4-star brandy and those funky snifters that you can't drink out of without spilling the crap all over you, while the rest goes up your nose? I'm thinking maybe we can do some big overstuffed armchairs and some real boring newspapers to read too. Say, what about a membership pin and a wacky handshake where you scratch your nuts with your left hand while shaking with your right and snort back a wad of snot through your nose so you sound like a boar hog in rut. Then we get to do the blackball thing too. Dissenting members use the blackball to show their feelings, only here you actually have to paint one of your own balls black and everyone drops trou to vote. I figure we can eliminate Kendall right away since we don't want no members what are standin' around stirrin' turds no how. And Bert probably wouldn't work out since he couldn't remember where the place is. Mick too, now that I think of it, since he looks like he's givin' the secret handshake when he's just standin' around. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Spider Tom Date: 03 Jul 00 - 01:36 AM Ever notice how many men sing songs about the ladys, Funny that. Spider Tom (just having a bite) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Áine Date: 03 Jul 00 - 01:43 AM Dear 'Spaw, You said "Say, what about a membership pin and a wacky handshake where you scratch your nuts with your left hand while shaking with your right and snort back a wad of snot through your nose so you sound like a boar hog in rut." -- Hey, I'd pay to see that (just as long as nobody sniffs their fingers afterwards). -- Áine (who always won the gross out contests in primary school!!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: The Shambles Date: 03 Jul 00 - 02:04 AM The book was good but I don't think that I would be welcome to live with the women on Venus and I certainly do not want to live out a boring existence with the men on Mars, so I will continue to try my best to value, learn from and live with both here in my short time on Earth. Taffy McPaddy-Smith (Mrs) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:10 AM You know, for such a friendly lot of people, we do seem to have a remarkable knack of conjuring a fight out of anything.
But as for the stereotype about the Irish being hot-tempered...makes me blood boil. But in fact I don't think it's not a good generalisation.
Indeed, there are lots of people prone to losing their temper in any set of humans from any planet I've come across; but there's a difference between being prone to losing your temper (which I've never found particularly characteristic of Irish people I've known), and quite enjoying a battle (which perhaps I have). Losing your temper gets in the way if you want to win most times.
But, as Percy French sapiently pointed out: "When we've got all we want, we're as quiet as can be". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: kendall Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:24 AM Spaw, you did it again!! LMAO |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:25 AM Prone to losing tempers? I dunno'.......Its hard to be as pissed if you're lying flat as it is if you stand erect and additionally its also harder and messier to piss up a slack rope........But to each his own. Spaw.....Prone to be Proan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: GUEST,JulieF Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:26 AM McGrath I have often said that the difference between my fellow's side of the family (Irish) and mine( Scots) is that his blows up in arguments all the time , have a good ding dong and then it is all forgotten as suddenly. A good case was his father arguing about the cricket when we know he couldn't see anything other than vague shapes. Now my side don't argue but brood. Which is the best way - who knows ? But I'ld just be off now to have a brood and a sulk. Julie
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Wolfgang Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:54 AM a 1997 precursor of this thread: Guy's song circle. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: The Shambles Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:57 AM This is one of those threads that does not make a lot of sense unless you have also read this thread Women's HearMe. Mind you it still does not make a lot of sense even when you have? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: GUEST,Jerry Date: 03 Jul 00 - 10:37 AM So anyway, will there be a lot of that macho butt-patting stuff that guys...I mean WE guys do at sports events. Like when there's a baseball game and somebody gets a touchdown? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 Jul 00 - 11:02 AM Butt-patting! Good grief... You wouldn't catch English footballers doing that. They tend to leap on each other and roll around in each others arms. Not too often in Euro2000 mind you...
I gather it's all to do with male-bondage, or something like that. The football culture
And I tell you, you don't get that much of that stuff at a game of Hurling, or Gaelic Football. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Irish Rover Date: 03 Jul 00 - 11:39 AM I'm half Scot and Half Irish, I beat the crap out-a-ya and then brood, a mens club, well it has merit, lots of targets maybe we could start a fight club like in the movies, I'll bring B Bonnie and any one looks in her direction I'll put whuppin' on sounds good to me Irish Rover oh and spaw I like the snifter discription, just bring whisky and lots of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: GUEST,Peter T. Date: 03 Jul 00 - 02:18 PM Clearly catspaw has been on holiday, and has returned invigorated. I personally always like the treehouse approach on Mudcat to the men's smoking room, but then I don't smoke. I simply point out that these Hearme circles are probably interesting, but those of us with Macs are unable to participate, which cuts out a substantial fraction of Mudcat. This is a more interesting locale anyway. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Little Neophyte Date: 03 Jul 00 - 03:16 PM I don't know Irish Rover, I'm quite sure the boys are going to want me to wear one of those French Maid outfits with white socks and I'll have to serve the brandy, cut cigar tips and wash off dry paint. I am not too sure if I am up to all that testosterone. BB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Amergin Date: 03 Jul 00 - 03:22 PM Sounds like an idea to me, Bonnie.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Irish Rover Date: 03 Jul 00 - 03:28 PM Naaaaaaaa I just want you there for bait. you can just stand next to me and I'll amuse you til I need you to hold my drink. I always become amorous after fistacuffs soooooooo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Peter T. Date: 03 Jul 00 - 03:30 PM Course it is not exactly clear what the menservants would wear in the Women's room (which currently has all the charm of a sorority meeting I attended in 1969, where they were deciding whether to change the hours for admitting men, and ended up screaming at each other, while the two innocent representatives of the male community in the room (me and Tim Hilton, whatever happened to him?) sat looking really scared at witnessing the power of women riled!). yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Little Neophyte Date: 03 Jul 00 - 03:31 PM Just a thong Peter T., that's good enough |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Irish Rover Date: 03 Jul 00 - 03:39 PM I know a thong, actually I know theveral. I'm just not sure that enough |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: kendall Date: 03 Jul 00 - 07:42 PM I'm half Scot and half Irish. Half of me wants to get drunk, but the other half doesn't want to pay for it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:48 PM Brew your own.....its a thought. Then when you throw up you won't be out anything. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:58 PM Wasn't there a time the ladies used to retire after supper about 100 years ago? Bonnie - serve the brandy, cut cigar tips, wash off dry paint or retire with the ladies but DO NOT wear one of these french maid outfits. Joerg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: WyoWoman Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:58 PM I think they'll all need spuds for those thongs, so I'll be happy to run the potato concession just outside the door. I'm also Scots/Irish, among other heritages. This probably accounts for why I brood, then beat myself up for it. And Peter T., you've reconfirmed one of the Great Truths as Observed by WyoWoman: At their worst, men are stupid, but women are mean. Also: Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it. ww |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: harpgirl Date: 03 Jul 00 - 10:43 PM br> Where do you go to find a man who is truly into commitment? A mental hospital How many men does it take to wallpaper a feminists house? Only four if you slice them thin enough? Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah ...can't catch me!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: reggie miles Date: 04 Jul 00 - 12:11 PM Spaw, a theme song might be in order that seems to cover all the bases. Ever Since Eve Adam was as happy as a man can be, till Eve brought up the subject of the apple tree. He listened to a woman, that's a losin' game, and brother if you try it you'll learn the same. They'll trap you with their glamor when you call around. Before you know what hit you boy you're alter bound. And when the preacher says to honor and obey, it's only you he's talkin' to and how you'll pay. (chorus) Ever, ever since Eve, men have cried while women deceive. You trust a gal and then she's gone. Believe me it's been going on, ever oh ever since Eve. You meet a gal and take her out to dine and dance. She leads you on but brother you don't stand a chance. She'll help you spend your money and when you got no more, she'll shake your hand and say goodbye and slam the door. .Now I ain't sayin' women aren't here to stay. Why, half the married folks are women, so they say. But none of them are ever gonna get me hooked. Cuz brother when that happens, your goose is cooked. (chorus) The boys and I are gonna take a holiday. We're gonna buy a little island far away. We'll smoke cigars and flick the ashes 'round the tent. We're gonna gamble and we'll fish till our heart's content. We're gonna eat our dinner in our shorts and socks, and when we're through we'll break the dishes on the rocks. There isn't gonna be a woman in the crowd. We're gonna hang a sign that says no gals allowed. (chorus) I think an all male choir singing in harmony on the last chorus would be nice. ;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: reggie miles Date: 04 Jul 00 - 12:17 PM Oops! I think that was suppose to be altar and not alter in that first verse, interesting transposition though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jul 00 - 01:11 PM Well Hot Damn!!! Thanks Reggie....NOW we're getting somewhere with this! So now we have the club song and the official secret handshake and the exclusivity of the blackball thing.....Now we need a nice logo and somebody to start donating the furniture. We also need a committee to determine the criteria and then select the servants. Also, if we go with serving wenches, we need to put some thought into the uniform. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Peter T. Date: 04 Jul 00 - 01:12 PM Harpgirl, reminds me of a joke a lesbian once told me (yes, I know, feminists aren't necessarily lesbians): "If you are in bed with another woman and another man, what is the man for?" "To answer the phone if your husband calls." yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jul 00 - 01:28 PM Well, I like to focus on the similarities..........oops, wrong thread........ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: The Shambles Date: 04 Jul 00 - 01:33 PM It is interesting to read and compare the thread that Wolgang provided the link earlier to this thread. For anyone who wanted to know what the 'old curmudgeons' mean, this is a good demonstration of the difference between 'then' and now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 04 Jul 00 - 03:35 PM Catspaw, if you're serious about the club, sign me up. I have the handshake down pat, and I do tend to spill snifters full of intoxicationg liquors all over meself, and to tell nasty jokes too. Please can I join, please, please. Seamus |