BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Stu
Date: 01 May 12 - 05:52 AM

The truth we're talking about here is empirical truth, as observed by scientific process.

Hypotheses, theories, reproducible experiments and the many other methodologies are what science uses to discover the truth, not truths in themselves. There are no other truths, apart from those we can observe. What we deduce from these observable truths is a different matter altogether, but science uses methods that have been developed over centuries and are constantly reviewed and updated.

So I can't see a problem with the terminology. If YEC's have a problem with it, it's because they don't understand it, and as can be seen from this thread there is a whole lot of fundamental misunderstanding about science. As for evolution being a belief system, there's another misunderstanding of how science works.

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 May 12 - 06:08 AM

""So I can't see a problem with the terminology. If YEC's have a problem with it, it's because they don't understand it, and as can be seen from this thread there is a whole lot of fundamental misunderstanding about science. As for evolution being a belief system, there's another misunderstanding of how science works.""

Which is the problem with the terminology Jack, and beautifully expressed.

Pete's truth is "the bible is true and everything was created in seven days 6000 years ago!"

Why use a word which puts your argument on the same level, when you have myriad other words to describe scientific progress?

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: saulgoldie
Date: 01 May 12 - 10:51 AM

See YEC contd. This thread is BIG and takes a while to load.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Stringsinger
Date: 01 May 12 - 11:44 AM



Scientific knowledge is a consensus of opinion by scientists, not theologians or anyone who doesn't have the scientific discipline and information. Any other "truth" is silly and hypothetical because there is no physical evidence to support it. Without this evidence,
there is no approximation of truth. Truth is a relative idea, there can be no absolute truth despite the propaganda offered by religious advocates. That "truth" is unsupportable by physical reality.

What scientists know about evolution is evolving itself. The study of the human brain helps to clarify the role of evolution in influencing how we think about such matters as religion, politics, or evolution. Behavioral studies show how the conditioning we have in our lives influences how we think about topics such as evolution. Because of the brain-changing doubling down of certain behavioral patterns which are based on a rigid authoritarian view of life, there can be no rational discussion about these issues until mankind evolves beyond this limitation. The discussion becomes not a vehicle for sharing information but a "King of the Mountain" approach that dismisses any idea not held by the arguing party.

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 01 May 12 - 03:54 PM

don please be aware that my last post re carbon was in response to penny.
as to c14 dating too far back to support YEC;IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT the method utilizes assumptions unproven .the point of the argument is that you have no doubts about its reliability.if as evolutionists teach diamonds are millenia old;why can carbon be found.

penny.carbon comments noted but not really understood.any thoughts on how a formed hard diamond gets contaminated-in laymans terms if possible?.
i read most of the paluxy article.i thought it seemed fair ,mostly.
just to clarify that i made no claim re man tracks.
cheap shot! it might be if it were not a response.is it a cheap shot only if a YEC uses it.
pete

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 May 12 - 04:07 PM

Can we all post to the "YEC Eureka--Contd." thread, please!