BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders

Subject: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:22 AM

Wondering why the crowd went wild when Obama brushed the dirt of the debate off his shoulders the following day?

Yeah, probably not.

But the youth vote & lots of African Americans know the pop culture reference, making him all the more endearing to them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWLHQ3S-Oq8

Obama plays this little game all the time with the kiddies. Can't wait for the First Couple to bring hip hop into the House!

And a Yahoo News article on this moment in pop culture history:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080418/cm_thenation/45312336

And the Washington Post w/the video of Obama:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/18/AR2008041803282.html?hpid=topnews

And if you don't get it, well all the better. Because that means you ain't hip enough, like the Obama Posse is.

How did I find out? Kids at school were all about it yesterday.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:29 AM

Yes, Janet, some of us knew that--and possibly before you. Jay-Z, as I recall.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:41 AM

Nah, there are very few hip hop fans at Mudcat. Most folks here know nothing about the art form, the cultural references, etc.

And to me, if anything of value will come out of the Obama impending victory, it will be that it might hold the power to change the thug culture that is destroying generations of urban poor black kids.

But I don't hold out much hope of that either, considering the mother of two of our students at my school who threw her twin babies off a bridge into the Mississippi River on the 4th of July, and then followed them in--was a hip hop diva w/a slew of mental health problems.

Pop culture hip hop isn't getting these kids anywhere beyond feeling more deprived of material goods, of decent parenting, etc. and fuels the vicious cycle of status quo poverty.

I happen to love the art form of hip hop, but detest most of the artists. I've been doing slam and spoken word poetry w/my students for years. But they know how I feel about the hip hop crap that is hateful, misogynist, and greed based. But I LOVED Straight Outta Compton, and back then, hoped it would lead the hip hop music movement to great new heights of social criticism.

Sadly, it all degenerated into the thug thing, instead--to make it palatable to the mainstream values of MTV.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: frogprince
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:43 AM

Dusted the dirt off his shoulders? A presidential candidate made a physical gesture like that, which has been popularized by a minority group? Ohmygod! I'm glad I found out about this, before it was too late! You know damn well, anyone capable of doing that is capable of listening to rap music and committing drive-by shootings.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:44 AM

Get over yourself, and try and hold an adult conversation, will you?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:45 AM

Problem is: "hip-hop" is just not music. Melodies, are, shall we say, not the best.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: frogprince
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:50 AM

Fantasma, you posted again while I was writting. It looks like you didn't mean to be aiming as low or hateful as I immediately thought; apologies if my response was a bit much.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:52 AM

Guys, guys, guys ya aren't getting what I'm talking about. I am talking about what Obama represents--a changing of the generational guard. Bill Clinton was the first baby boomer "rock" president. Obama would be the first "hip hop" president, and the first president to bring some (though not much, to be sure) authentic African American culture to the White House.

Here is a You Tube link to an interview w/Obama, where he talks about hip hop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFSVG7jRp_g

Now, the problem I have with Obama's "audacity of hope" regarding urban education and the "achievement gap" (which I live w/on a daily basis), is Jay Z ain't got no answers neither.

Not to mention, if we look to hip hop to save us, aren't we making that same mistake some 60s kids did, believe that rock and roll would change the world? Like that ever happened?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:56 AM

And of course the lyrics are a bit of a problem--lots of misogyny and whatever "kill the pigs" translates to these days. There may be some social commentary--but updated "kill the pigs", glorifying drugs, and misogyny appear to be in the majority.

But I'm sure, aside from the melodies and the lyrics, it's wonderful stuff.

And I do like "Cicada Serenade"--which might possibly not qualify as "hip-hop".

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 10:00 AM

OK, I didn't start the thread to talk about your personal musical tastes, Ron.

I started it to start a conversation about what an Obama general election candidacy, and ultimately his presidency, means to the national zeitgeist, which is reaching a pinnacle with his candidacy.

Or maybe you haven't given it much thought, because you've been too obsessed with the horse race?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 10:05 AM

And then, there is the trotting out of the Red, White and Blue theme for Obama. This time by punkers:

http://www.secretlyironic.com/?p=1781

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 10:43 AM

But not all hip hoppers are on board:

From the Hip Hop News blog:

Snoop Dogg Criticizes Barack Obama

April 7th, 2008

In a candid interview on Thursday with London newspaper The Guardian, Snoop Dogg commented on U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama, accusing him of receiving funding from historically anti-black organization the Ku Klux Klan.

"The KKK gave Obama money. They was one of his biggest supporters... The media won't tell you that. They don't want you to know that. They just want you to know that this nigger befriended this other nigger who be threatening your values. But we all know all presidents lie to get into fucking office. That's they fucking job."

According to a reporter for Gone Hollywood, Obama denied these allegations, saying that the rumors are "completely untrue."

Snoop is not the only Hip Hop figure that has openly expressed discontent towards the U.S. presidential candidate. In an interview with the Black Agenda Report, Russell Simmons accused Obama of being a "controlled politician."

"I think about one-fourth of his campaign contributions came from small donations made over the internet, even though he collected more than any other democratic candidate from Wall Street people. So at the end of the day, he's controlled, too. That's my point. He's a mouse, too, like everybody else," Simmons added.

Although Snoop has expressed his opposition towards Obama, he believes that he will become America's next president.

"In America's eyes, that muthafucker's gonna be president 'cause [John] McCain can't fuck with him. Hillary [Clinton] can't fuck with him. He's winning over white people, white ladies."

Reported by Krysten Hughes.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 11:02 AM

Well, I do find this thread instructive on many levels.

I do miss a lot of the cultural cues in this campaign.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, on up the Kennebec River in Maine

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 11:09 AM

Azizi already covered this with a link etc. in a previous thread: HERE.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: meself
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 11:09 AM

So who DOES "Snoop Dogg" endorse for the presidency? America needs to know ...

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 12:10 PM

Azizi covered it? What is she, the Mudcat token?

Azizi gave the link to the Obama speech where he did the Jay Z move. She didn't mention the pop culture reference to the hip hop song Obama was referencing in that speech.

So, I decided to explore "what it meant" here in another thread, so as not to hijack the debate thread. This isn't a thread about the debate. This is a thread about what it will mean to have the first hip hop president. Big difference.

BTW, I wouldn't be so quick to diss the endorsement of a hip hop mogul if I were you, meself. Obama will need every vote he can get in November, including--maybe even especially--the hip hop vote.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 12:20 PM

Hip Hop president? Whew! That's ok then. I was getting concerned that he might be an "elitist".

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 12:32 PM

Oprah is safe. She promotes safe rappers & hip hop artists. Al Sharpton is safe. He promotes racial and gender neutral rap, and censorship of rap and hip hop lyrics the same way Oprah and Russell Simmons do.

Oprah and Snoop?

No, that be a little too real, cause d swizz is the realest.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 12:38 PM

>>Azizi covered it? What is she, the Mudcat token?<<

What in the hell is wrong with you?

Pause ten seconds before you type and THINK!

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 12:42 PM

He is an elitist. A Harvard snob, in fact. The only one who beats him at his own arrogance game is his wife.

But that doesn't change the fact he will be taking the generational torch when he wins, and he'll be taking the hand off from William Jefferson Clinton, the first rock and roll president.

Which is why the Bill and Hill show won back in '92. Youth vote. Generational change.

It didn't take the first time, hence Dubya.

This time, we can get all jazzed w/a hip hop prez, a New N.W.A. for a Brand New Day, as my kids were saying yesterday, without understanding/grasping the cultural references correctly either! But despite the Northwest Airlines/Delta merger being the talk of the town locally, I don't thing that was what they were talking about either (at least, not the 6th grade boys).

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 12:58 PM

Apparently, I've stunned y'all into silence here.

Come on Mudcat Obamamaniacs, this is your boy!

They are talkinga about his Jay Z moves on the Washington Post and New York Times politico blogs!

Cat got your tongues?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 12:58 PM

Sorry, Jack--it's not in Janet's makeup to think before hitting "'send". She just wants to rant--and the rest of us should just sit back and enjoy the show. It is, after all, just too entertaining.

As I've said earlier, life must have treated her pretty dreadfully for her to have such bottomless rage.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: mg
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:03 PM

I liked the shoulders bit. It wasn' verbal so they can't parse it too much but it was done in a sort of humerous way. He strikes me as a somewhat sophistaced nerd but they can like hip hop too. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:05 PM

It's not rage. It's a game. And she's really, really good at it, too. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:07 PM

Trying to turn the thread into YET ANOTHER ad hominem there, Ron?

How about you share your great wisdom of the cultural and generational ramifications of the Obama presidency with us instead of another lame attempt to engage in character assassination?

I haven't said anything I wouldn't say to a person's face here, including Azizi's. Some Mudcatters treat her like the forum token black, especially when the subject is race and African American culture.

Regardless of what Azizi says, I might add. I don't feel compelled to agree with her, because of her race. I'm not that easily intimidated, because I still live in the 'hood.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:12 PM

That's right, CarolC. We're all playas here. You, me, JTS, Ron, Azizi, katlaughing, Peace, Bobert...

We're all playas here. Y'all got the advantage of your pack. Me, strictly the power of my words. It's all I got.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:14 PM

Well, Janet, if the role you want is vulgar, raging, more-feminist-than-thou idiot, by all means have at it--I don't think anybody else wants the role.

But I really have to get some work done.

Have fun.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:33 PM

Y'all got the advantage of your pack.

I think you know better than that. There may be a pack, but I ain't in it. Just ask them. They'll tell you.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:46 PM

When Katlaughing did that it was about the 10,000th time someone in the Mudcat pointed out that an idea was covered first in another thread.

In fact when I first saw this thread I wondered why it wasn't folded into that other thread. Is there going to be some new insight? Nope. I think it is OK that Janet started this this thread. I'm not OK that she got pissy when Kat told her that the topic had been covered and then Janet accused Kat of reverse racism. It was not called for and not true. In this case Janet's trolling for cheap controversy and attention has gone too far.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:53 PM

Best thing is don't feed the troll, folks.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 01:58 PM

OH, and if anyone followed the links, Azizi - A Mudcat Member - posted a much more extensive explanation in THIS THREAD, for the record.

So, I fed her...the sack is empty now.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 02:37 PM

I am not *in* to hip hop- and quite frankly it doesn't bother me a whit.

However, whether or not it has curretnly acquired a secret meaning, brushing off one's shoulders or shaking one's shoes is nothing new. Even in the Bible it tells the traveling disciples to shake the dirt off their shoes before they travel on, if their message is not received. lol

Brushing oneself off is in the same category as plucking feathers off one's back. Is that also a secret, Janet?

Pathetic.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 02:46 PM

Interesting thread. Yes, Obama can carry the torch of generational change very effectively in 2008 and beyond, and he will if he wins this election. I'm not so sure yet that he will win it, but I think he might.

I couldn't agree more, Fantasma, with your comments about the "hip hop crap that is hateful, misogynist, and greed based" and that "pop culture hip hop isn't getting these kids anywhere beyond feeling more deprived of material goods, of decent parenting, etc. and fuels the vicious cycle of status quo poverty".

Dead right!!! It's awful stuff. I've detested both Rap and Hip Hop as general categories of music ever since they were first foisted on us all by the mainstream music business...mostly via MTV. It's standard cynical mass marketing. They couldn't care less what damage they do to society and to people's lives as long as the money rolls in.

And yeah, everybody's a "playa" here. LOL! And how. The thing people most love is to see their own words appear in print onscreen and then imagine the effect that their devastatingly clever and brilliant comments are having on those they are directed to. They smirk knowingly or grimly as they hit the "Submit Message" key. It's also a splendid little dumping ground for all those pent-up hostilities and hatreds to be vented, for excess self-righteousness to be bled off, for deep-seated longstanding resentments, bitterness, and feelings of persecution to be expiated, all that kind of thing. You don't have to kick the dog anymore or torture the goldfish or play those vicious little domineering mind games with your spouse and kids when you've got a fulltime audience on the Internet to fight with and abuse, right?

Nobody here but us "playas". ;-) You can tell how bad the emotional addiction is by how often the playa posts, how long they ramble on, and how nasty and personal they get when they are posting.

Now I shall smile grimly as I hit "Submit Message".........


(By the way, I'm trying to break the addiction. You note that I am posting a lot less lately, specially on political threads? Wish me luck with that. There is still hope of redemption, I think, for all of us.)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: meself
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 03:46 PM

What exactly is a "playa"? I thought it was someone who tended toward infedility in amorous relations - but that doesn't seem to apply here ... does it?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 04:01 PM

Well, I think in this context it probably means people who are playing various forms of manipulative and competitive mind games with one another via an Internet forum, and thereby seeking some form of illusory satisfaction by achieving momentary dominance over those they disagree with. Short term gratification, at best! They're busy winning battles that don't matter and which should never have been fought. That would be my guess. (?)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: mg
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 04:27 PM

Why call anyone a token anything. How insulting, but of course it was meant to be. Why not be glad for everyone of any background who shares an interest in folklore etc. We have a long ways to go but we are going nevertheless. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 06:07 PM

Much Ado About Nothing
            --Bill Shakespeare

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 06:25 PM

I don't know why this thread exists at all. It falls way short of the quality set by Gibson and Stephanopoulos in the ABC Wednesday night Philadelphia debate.

[Sound of toilet flushing]

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 07:05 PM

I'm gobsmacked!

I'm of course grateful for the link as I hadn't seen it before.

It reflects Obamas way of showing that he's still keeping his eye focussed on what matters and not getting distracted by peripheral nonsense, something which has been identified as his single and uncompromising strategy throughout his campaign.

So he's consistent. And this time he referred briefly to popular culture in a non hackneyed and non embarrassing but actually quite authentic way. So the result of this is that he's getting through to younger voters. And who knows, that might make younger voters feel like they're being spoken to and not overlooked as usual.

A different way for a mainstream politician to make a sensible statement of his position.

Ok - good news.

I like all that.

meanwhile - what the hell is with this thread?

what is it with Fantasma's apparent desire to own the subject and use it like a trophy to taunt all the silly old uncool fuddy dudddy folkies on Mudcat?

Still in the hood?

What?

I've played guitars, bass and drums and performed on the mic with numerous hip hop artists, two of whom (one is a close friend) have collaborated with beyonce (Jay-Z's wife) on one of her releases. I know rappers breakers Dj's and ghetto "mans" with black brown and white skin and there's one thing I can say about my friends involved in that art form and it is that they are generally respectful, inquiring, intelligent people who have an inclusive approach. They don't go around blowing raspberry's at people because of preconceived views they may have about them.

Sadly Hip Hop culture is full of people who wear the clothes, walk the walk and affect the attitude, but don't think before they speak, with the result that when they get up to deliver their speil, they have nothing to say.

It is deeply Ironic that an artform which stresses the importance of keeping it real is mis-reprazented by so many young people living a fantasy.

Had you REALLY paid attention to Obama, you would have found that he too is inclusive. His words resonate with anyone. They are all the more powerful because they resonate with sectors of society to whom politicians don't often authentically reach out.

Snoop what?

If you can point us to a link showing Snoop Dog making these comments then I'm sure we would be reassured as to the authenticity of your assertion.

If it's true, then All that remains is to laugh. The idea that a man who has made his living out of porn and cheap gangster impressions is somehow qualified to comment in any meaningful way on Barack Obama is simply laughable.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 07:13 PM

"The media won't tell you that"

What a load of tripe!

Snoop is the media industry's poodle.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 07:35 PM

When you live under your bed, associating only with dead bugs and dust-bunnies the way Janet does, you don't have too good a picture of what's going on in the real world.

These days, the main problem is that the candidates are not really talking much about the issues, and that's what I really want to hear—as does any other voter possessed of an adequate number of brain cells. But first, with moderators like those in this last debate, they wound up having to deal with the froth the moderators kept flinging. And second, it seems that when a candidate speaks of their position in solid terms, it scares a lot of people who are unable to think beyond the latest bumper-sticker they read. Look what happened to Dennis Kucinich!

But over time, you can get impressions, and if you listen carefully and can separate the sense from the nonsense, you can get a fairly good picture of what someone is all about.

I think Barack Obama, if elected, will be a breath of fresh air wafting through the noxious fumes of the nation's capital.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 07:46 PM

Oh and Kat,

Perhaps I'm stating the obvious, but it did tickle me to notice that straight after the azizi post you linked us to was a post from ... erm ... somebody else who ... well ... clearly wasn't too interested ... at least not at that point anyway ...

I think I'll get my coat ...

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 07:53 PM

... but I'll just brush the dirt off it first ...

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 08:12 PM

Ummmm, not to over-simplify Obama's jestures but Jesus taught us to take people and experiences that are negative and unchangebale and...

...shake the dust off our robes...

Maybe if more folks here spent a little more time in the Bible and less time messin' with Obama they might understand the reference...

I knew immediately where the jesture came from...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 08:28 PM

LOL...lox, thanks for pointing that out. Guess it must of just zipped by her the first time...just goes to show some people are not interested in reading anything anyone else posts.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 08:32 PM

Y'all haven't bothered with the links, have you?

Apparently, most of you haven't figured out yet that others can tell when you are shooting from the hip, and haven't gone to the links.

What, no mention of all those N-bombs and F-bombs?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 08:48 PM

Praise the lord, Bobert.

Here are the lyrics to the Jay Z song getting mashed up on You Tube w/the Obama video:

You're now tuned into the muh'fuckin greatest
Turn the music up in the headphones
Tim, you can go and brush your shoulder off nigga
I got you, yeah

[Chorus: Jay-Z]
If you feelin like a pimp nigga, go and brush your shoulders off
Ladies is pimps too, go and brush your shoulders off
Niggaz is crazy baby, don't forget that boy told you
Get, that, dirt off your shoulder

[Verse One]
I probably owe it to y'all, proud to be locked by the force
Tryin to hustle some things, that go with the Porsche
Feelin no remorse, feelin like my hand was forced
Middle finger to the law, nigga grip'n my balls
All the ladies they love me, from the bleachers they screamin
All the ballers is bouncin they like the way I be leanin
All the rappers be hatin, off the track that I'm makin
But all the hustlers they love it just to see one of us make it
Came from the bottom the bottom, to the top of the pots
Nigga London, Japan and I'm straight off the block
Like a running back, get it man, I'm straight off the block
I can run it back nigga cause I'm straight with the Roc

[Chorus]

[Chorus Two]
You gotta get, that, dirt off your shoulder
You gotta get, that, dirt off your shoulder
You gotta get, that, dirt off your shoulder
You gotta get, that, dirt off your shoulder

[Verse Two]
Your homey Hov' in position, in the kitchen with soda
I just whipped up a watch, tryin to get me a Rover
Tryin to stretch out the coca, like a wrestler, yessir
Keep the Heckler close, you know them smokers'll test ya
But like, fifty-two cards when I'm, I'm through dealin
Now fifty-two bars come out, now you feel 'em
Now, fifty-two cars roll out, remove ceiling
In case fifty-two broads come out, now you chillin
with a boss bitch of course S.C. on the sleeve
At the 40/40 club, ESPN on the screen
I paid a grip for the jeans, plus the slippers is clean
No chrome on the wheels, I'm a grown-up for real

[Chorus + Chorus Two]

[Verse Three]
Your boy back in the building, Brooklyn we back on the map
Me and my beautiful beeeeeeeitch in the back of that 'Bach
I'm the realest that run it, I just happen to rap
I ain't gotta clap at 'em, niggaz scared of that black
I drop that +Black, Album+ then I back, out it
As the best rapper alive nigga ask about me
From Bricks to Billboards, from grams to Grammys
The O's to opposite, Orphan Annie
You gotta pardon Jay, for sellin out the Garden in a day
I'm like a young Marvin in his hey'
I'm a hustler homey, you a customer crony
Got some, dirt on my shoulder, could you brush it off for me?

[Chorus + Chorus Two]

You're now tuned into the muh'fuckin greatest

Best rapper alive, best rapper alive

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 08:50 PM

Yes, I read the link...

But did anyone ask Obama if he learned this from gangstas or from Jesus???

No, they didn't so the ***assumption*** (assume- making an "ass" outta "u" and "me") was that seein' as Obama was black that he has learned all his stuff from gangstas..

Purdy friggin' racist...

I remember this jesture from a black minster back in the 60's... Oh, I guess he was a gangsta, too...

Hardly...

There's is way too much codified racism and absolute BS going on here in this joint... I have never seen so much...

Might as well rename this joint MudKlan... I mean, I go to work in the morning and come home and turn this friggin' computer on and read what has gone down and it is beyond belief!!!

Like WTF???

Obama ain't no gangsta... Obama ain't no boy... Obama ain't no nigga...

Obama is a very capable homo sapien who is running for president.... Period!!!

Now if fols wanta play their little racist games, fine... Play 'um... This ol' hillbilly been round the trwck a few times and will call you on every one of them... Might be this time of day but you can take iot to the bank that when it come to codified racism, you can just call me "The Sheriff" 'casue I'm gonna bust yer ball games...

Square business...

Sheriff Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 08:53 PM

What point are you illustrating?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Brushes Dirt Off His Shoulders
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 09:04 PM

Sorry bobert, but this ones been taken up by the FBI (1989).