BS: Issues or problems ???

Subject: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 08:30 AM

Politicians seem to spend their time "addressing issues", but do they actually solve any problems - in particular the current bunch of wankers in the UK government

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: number 6
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 09:13 AM

we live in an age were we "address the issues" but never go beyond that ..... no one is brave enough to take ownership I guess.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: number 6
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 09:14 AM

I should also add ... to lazy to take ownership.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 09:36 AM

I don't have any "issues" - hideous word, I only have answers to problems!

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 10:48 AM

If you don't address them, they tend to go astray... or come back to haunt you!

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 02:25 PM

The point of addressing an issue is to identify any problems connected with it, and determine how to go about solving them.

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 02:28 PM

Their objective, Bonzo, is to create an impression of doing one thing while generally accomplishing another entirely...

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 03:25 PM

Identification is not resolution, but sometimes, people actually need to be told there is a problem.

Many middle management have gaily gone about their lives ordering this that and the other change to the working practice of a department, only to have it all come back to bite them because they simply did not see the problem.

Here's a for instance.

An office that already has more work than it can cope with, and no chance of overtime or extra staff, inherits the work of 3 similar offices which are closing down. There are no extra staff available for 5 months, during which the office experiences its two busiest times of the year. And the manager wonders why that office is now 6 months behind on its work. Apparently, 3 times the work but no extra staff or hours is not a problem to the manager. The manager looks good on paper because they did what their superiors wanted, not what was best for the department.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 03:28 PM

My point actually is ludicrous use of the word "issues", pronounced ishoos by some and isssssssssssssssssssssssssyouuuuuuuuuuuuuuus by others - they know who they are!!!......when what they actually mean is "PROBLEMS".

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Apr 09 - 04:46 PM

Bless you...

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Neil D
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 04:06 AM

Dare I try another blue clicky. Here are a couple earnest folk singers singing about Issues.

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 05:48 AM

Problem is a negative word which might be offensive (Middle East "problem" depending on who uses the term offends someone) and implies responsibility for a solution. When you factor in accountability, no one wants to be responsible.

For me, instead of 'problem' or 'issue' I like the word 'challenge'. Something to sink my teeth into and really work at sorting out without putting negative connotations on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: bubblyrat
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 06:24 AM

I would say that the Morons running this run-down,bankrupt,socially divided,over-populated,immoral,drug-infested rat-hole are very "Challenged" indeed.But I live in hope of better times !!

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Lox
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 09:18 AM

What about the issue of identifying the problem?

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Lox
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 09:18 AM

... or the problem of how to resolve the issues ...

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 09:52 AM

"Problem is a negative word which might be offensive"

What absolute rubbish. Nobody is offended - only people who get offended on behalf of others, the usual lefty cranks.

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Amos
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 10:58 AM

Both words describe some collision in points of view; but a lot of problems are not issues in the traditional sense of the word. A lot of problems are not even opportunities! They're just problems.

Having a hole in your shoe making your foot freeze is a problem. Being asked to do a paper-delivery route in that shoe might be an issue.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 12:37 PM

No, issue is a contrived word that suits the media. An issue is an edition of a magazine, an edition of a book.