BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?

Subject: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 07:41 AM

Hello All.

I woke up this morning to a bit of EMail about a BASSE HARMONIKA with an attachment. The intro was, "I you this message and ask for your adivice." Sound familiar? No big issues here, just beaware that thgis hasn't gone away. Check your Firewalls if you are on cable hook ups and upgrade your Norton.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 08:08 AM

Ya' know, I've started running live update at least twice a week now. This stuff is just so damn ridiculous....but what's the option? Norton and Zone Alarm have been doing a good job for me and if you've ever been hit with one of these things, the cost and aggravation are worth it.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 12:32 PM

Hi, Don - wish I had seen your message first. I deleted the e-mail I received and didn't open the attachment - but I did send an e-mail to the sender to say I wouldn't accept the attachment.

Yes, we do have to send some files as attachments - photos and sound files, for example - but we should rarely have a need to send text as attachments - you can copy-paste text into e-mail messages, and then it makes things a lot safer for your recipients.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: paddymac
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 03:27 PM

I guess there are different views as to how to deal with unsolicited mail - whether commercial spam or malicious critter attacks. For myself, I absolutely never respond, especially to a "delete from this list" address, because all that my response achieves is to confirm my address as viable.

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 03:53 PM

I don't usually respond, either, paddymac - but this sounded like it might be a legitimate music inquiry. Just after that, I scanned my computer and did come up with a virus that apparently hadn't done any harm.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Beach
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:00 PM

I'm using an antivirus program called NOD32 and it's knocking out every email virus that comes my way thus far. You can set it up to update every time that you turn on the computer and go online if you want, or do it manually.

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:06 PM

Norton Anti-virus is the same way - every time I go online it automatically updates. And I set it to scan my entire system once a week. Since I nearly always delete attachments without opening them I haven't had an issue with virus's in the past several months. I tried to get people to not send me attachments - but all that did was get people mad - funny business this internet at times.

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From:
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:13 PM

Beach, could you supply more details on this Nod32?

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Beach
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:23 PM

There Website is at

There is a free trial version there which is fully functional and it is around $84.50 (Australian) to buy it for a year or something like that.

If I do a full scan on my hard drive it only takes around twelve minutes.

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Beach
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:26 PM

Here it is again:

Their Website is at NOD32

There is a free trial version there which is fully functional and it is around $84.50 (Australian) to buy it for a year or something like that.

If I do a full scan on my hard drive it only takes around twelve minutes.

Just in case I've stuffed it up again the Website is at www.nod32.com

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: bernil
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 07:12 PM

I read somewhere that Norton AV and ZoneAlarm wouldn't function together but you Spaw say that they've been doing a good job for you. Are there no problems at all? I want to use that combination too, I think. I think it was Semantec who said this just because they want us to use their Firewall too. But only ZA was mentioned so I don't really know... ?

Berit

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: kendall
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 08:00 PM

I've had Norton for a couple of months now, and it has intercepted about a dozen virus' worms and infected files. It kills them automatically.

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: M.Ted
Date: 12 Dec 01 - 01:49 PM

I recently installed Norton for Mac, and it put me through conflict Hell--I now run it from the CD, which seems to work, but the Live Update hasn't had anything new to offer since October, which makes me wonder a bit==

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: bernil
Date: 12 Dec 01 - 06:28 PM

Oops. Live update does have new things to offer very often, last time was today! I don't understand how it can work to run it from the CD. When it's installed on the computer Live Update is a separate program. And could you register?

Well, I don't have any answers, just more questions... I hope somebody can help you, because you don't seem to have a good protection now, as new viruses come often.

Berit

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Dec 01 - 07:07 PM

Berit.....I have 2001 Norton and Zone alarm and they have been working together with no problem at all for me. When I first purchased the Norton, I bought the disc and a few months later it missed a virus. The Norton folks helped me out and found that I had a defective disc. They helped me clear the virus and then gave me a free download of 2001. I was more than pleased with the customer service!!! I'd suggest (as their people told me) that when purchasing, you download from the site. You can get immediate help if there is a problem.

I have elected to update manually although I did have it set on automatic. I like doing some things manually because I feel better about how the software is working. For instance, with only a few exceptions, my Zone Alarm is set to ask me about everything that I open...as in, "Do you want (whatever) to have access to the internet." Some of the that old paranoia about whether something works if I can't "see" it.

I have seen where others have mentioned a problem, but I sure don't have one. I like both programs and feel the combination is hard to beat.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 10:15 AM

I have had several attachments called somewhat like beanidiot.xls.lnk
I guess there are a lot of folks who don't recognise lnk as an executable. and the name wrap feature and hidden extensions can hide the clues.
I had a .doc recently from a very trusted guy with unknowed PC savvy so I saved it as a .txt and read it in FileView (HEX) and Editpad (=notepad).
It was all about MS paying for people to "pass this on". Hmmmmmmmm....... If I was not as paranoaic I would still not have fell for that one. I assume it was benign. and This is how I choose to pass it on.

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 01:50 PM

Do I need my class.sys file? That file I brought from home that the work virus-checker caught prompted me to get an updated virus CD from work to update my home machine, and it found a virus in my class.sys file which it then deleted in a failed attempt to Clean it. Things were fine, I had no virus on my home computer according to the latest update (last week), I created another file and lo and behold, when I got here to work there was that creepy crawly icon, and I still had the virus the new checker said wasn't there... I almost didn't get to do my final on time! I had to do shenanigans, and now I don't know if my home computer is safe or not. Also, I have no class.sys file, and things are getting funky in the operating system. Which I may need to reload anyway, because of my network icon having no properties... but what about that class.sys file?

Subject: RE: BS: VIRUS: Son of SirCam?
From: Beach
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 04:47 PM

What type of PC are you using Mrrzy? I'm running WIN98 and don't have a file with that name. The other question - What is the virus that the AV program picked up?