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BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott

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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: frogprince
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 02:07 PM

Have all of you seen the miraculouse image of Saint Rush that I dicovered a year or so ago?


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 02:37 PM

Great! This time I hit Home instead of Submit!
I stayed up well into the early morning signing petitions and sending emails about this. I agree that it is also time for younger women to stand up for their rights along with those of us who are beyond their own child-bearing years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: open mike
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 02:48 PM

background info? i did not see any info about the incident that sparked this boycott, and in looking for more i found these:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/03/rachel-maddow-rush-limbaugh-birth-control-sandra-fluke_n_1318354.html?ref=media
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2012/0303/Will-Sandra-Fluke-sue-Rush-Limbaugh-for-calling-her-a-slut


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: gnu
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 03:11 PM

Well, slander and/or libel suits are her option. He put words in her mouth that certainly would be considered same in a court of law. I say "libel" because it was broadcast which is the same as in writing. IMO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 03:40 PM

I have written to Rush to beg him to keep this up.
Bobert is correct.
The Republicans can't win without the young and women.
Rush - keep spewing your lunatic misogynistic crap, please!


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 06:41 PM

Have to agree. Rush is a buffoon. But his foolishness keeps Santorum's and Romney's statements on birth control on the front page. Jacqui calls them The Society To Re-elect Obama.
And while they foam at the mouth, Obama is the fatherly figure who cares for and protects the afflicted with a simple phone call. Occasionally I love politics.



Meaantime, Snowe's scathing assessment of her colleagues adds fuel to the fire.
Life is good.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 06:45 PM

An Apology:

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(CNN) - Conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh apologized Saturday for calling Sandra Fluke a "slut" after the Georgetown law student advocated for contraception coverage in a Democratic hearing this week.

"My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir," Limbaugh said in a statement on his website. "I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."

Guess the boycotted sponsors put their foot down.
Better and better...


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Maryrrf
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:10 PM

I am outraged by Limbaugh's verbal vomit, but I hope he keeps it up. He has drawn attention to the underlying attitude towards women that is behind these efforts by conservative Republicans to limit contraception and abortion rights. He may have gotten a few laughs from the band of cretins that listen to his program, but he has provoked a strong backlash that will help the Democrats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: gnu
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:19 PM

His apology means nothing to him or to anyone with two clues. I hope the "stir" continues and he is taken down for his spew. Otherwise, his audience of backward no-mind twits will continue to listen to his sordid verbal garbage and hate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:20 PM

The NY Times says that at least six sponsors pulled out. (ThinkProgress has at least five.)


In the NY Times:
Mr. Limbaugh published the apology on his Web site Saturday afternoon.

"For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke," Mr. Limbaugh wrote. He then reiterated his opposition to the Obama administration policy, which requires health insurance plans to cover contraceptives for women.
...
On the Wednesday, Thursday and Friday editions of his talk show, Mr. Limbaugh loudly criticized Ms. Fluke as sexually promiscuous and politically motivated — "an anti-Catholic plant," he said at one point.

On Wednesday, he called her a "slut" who "wants to be paid to have sex"; on Thursday, he said she was "having so much sex, it's amazing she can still walk"; and on Friday he said Ms. Fluke had testified that she was "having sex so frequently that she can't afford all the birth-control pills that she needs."

Thursday's comments included this:
So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here's the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.

On Friday, he continued on the theme.

This of course in addition to his having his facts entirely mixed up.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:21 PM

First of all, this apology is no more real than TV wrestling... 2nd, if it were real it would have come before Bad Rash had all those sponsors pull the plug and not afterwards... 3rd, not to fear... Bad Rash will strike again and again... People don't change... They get more so...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,999
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:27 PM

Boycott the radio stations that broadcast him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:33 PM

We already do, brucie... I doubt if any progressive listens to any of theses stations... I mean, there's a reason why the call letters are WACO...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:34 PM

A more effective route might be to complain to your local radio station that carries Rush Limbaugh's show.

Several years ago I emailed my local talk-radio station to complain about Dr. Laura Schlessinger. (I used to listen to her regularly in my car while I drove to work, although I usually disagreed with her and didn't like her.) I got a reply from the program manager. It was very brief, and I can't remember exactly what it said, but I got the impression it was not a "canned" response, but personally and individually written. He thanked me for my opinion and sort of implied that a lot of people were telling him the same thing. A few weeks later, they canceled her show. (I mean, her show continued to be produced and syndicated, but my local talk-radio station no longer carried it.) I can't remember what they replaced her with; it might have been something equally obnoxious, but I considered it a victory nonetheless.

Whatever you say, I think it's helpful to give the impression (I assume your ethics don't allow you to outright lie) that you generally like talk-radio and would be a regular listener if only they replaced Rush Limbaugh with something more decent and credible. It might be helpful to praise some other program that's carried by the same station—or, if you can't do that in good conscience—praise a show that's carried by some other station such as NPR. You definitely don't want to give the impression that you wouldn't listen to their station no matter what they do, because then they have no incentive to try to please you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:44 PM

Do not insult Sir Geoffrey Boycott by assaciating his name with this foreign pratt! Boycott bats on water!


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 07:48 PM

Rush's own web site makes it very easy to figure out which station to complain to:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/stations


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 08:17 PM

"My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir," Limbaugh said in a statement on his website. "I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."

Well, Rush, that's a start.

So, tell us, who are you screwing around with, and do you avail yourself and your partner (man, woman or beast) any protection? I hope you do. More little Rush Limbaughs are not needed on this planet.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 08:26 PM

Bad Rash humorous??? That's not why he people tune in and listen to this guy... They tune in and listen to him to get their daily dose of right winged propaganda... They are addicted to it and to him...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 08:46 PM

Jim Dixon, good point and thanks for the link. I do recall calling the PD of a local one, I think it was the one that carries the Bum-Rush, and didn't get anywhere with him. He was polite, but mostly turned a deaf ear. We agreed to disagree. May be a new person or station, now, though. I'll check.

The hand therapist I was going to is middle of the road, mostly liberal. He listens every Friday for a weekly *fix* of idiocy. We'd sit and laugh at the ludicrous trash mouths go on and on, but also realising there are some folks who take it for gospel. He had to keep it turned down low as the other therapists couldn't stomach it.

Perhaps he'll lose his voice, literally.In the meantime boycotting is GOOD!


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: gnu
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 08:49 PM

Re the "humour" comment I made... apparently my comment was lost on some or in some way not considered humourous with the context of my post. It was meant to characterize his audience/followers as sick fucks in either case. I was trying to be a tad humourous. After all, in the face of absolute human garbage, one can try to make fun of the problem or shove a huge didlo up his ass as has been suggested.

BTW, I am fine with shoving a dildo up his ass. The bigger, the better as he is a big asshole. As long as it's roughed up with heavy grit sandpaper first and no lube is involved.

Better?


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 09:49 PM

Not about Geoffrey.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 10:39 PM

While I saw the new headline saying that there had been an "apology" I assumed that it was as phony as his usual stuff, and didn't bother to read it. The summaries posted above confirm my good judgement in the matter.

Also, while archiving (digitizing) some older material, I came across an "Interview with Rush Limbaugh" from 1993 or 1994. While it got scanned with the rest of the publication it was in, I didn't really bother to read it, since shit hardly ever changes its smell. I suppose I could go back and look at it, but I doubt if I'll bother with anything he might have to say (although questions by the interviewers might indicate whether they knew then what kind of turd they were talking to?, and I suspect they did).

I don't find anything in his list of sponsors that I'd be likely to think of using, but I'll keep the list handy just in case. (If you're going to sponsor a liar you're obviously trying to sell to people who are ready to believe lies. If, as with the Carbonite response at 02 Mar 12 - 05:32 PM, you don't care who pushes your stuff, you've already descended below my level of interest.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 11:36 PM

It doesn't matter that his apology isn't sincere. Everybody knows that. What's important is that it shows he can be humbled rather than forcing everybody else to be humbled by him. Once he saw his advertisers leaving and none jumping in to take their place, he HAD to apologize.

It could lead to a loss of audience for him because they won't like the fact that he apologized--especially if it was just to keep his corporate sponsors. They've always loved his complete refusal to be humbled or to admit he was wrong. To see him get down on one knee makes them wince. You know it makes him wince. This may be the small leak that sinks the big bloated ship.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 02:27 AM

Carbonite is the sixth sponsor to leave him. It looks like the second part of their initial response was key, John in Kansas. Here's what the CEO posted on Facebook, according to ThinkProgress:
No one with daughters the age of Sandra Fluke, and I have two, could possibly abide the insult and abuse heaped upon this courageous and well-intentioned young lady. Mr. Limbaugh, with his highly personal attacks on Miss Fluke, overstepped any reasonable bounds of decency. Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 09:27 AM

What's important is that it shows he can be humbled...

Humbled? Get real This sick fuck (to burrow a phrase) and the sick fucks who listen to his puke will be right back at it tomorrow, if not sooner.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: kendall
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 09:37 AM

Oh, how have the mighty fallen. It is so gratifying to see the great Rush Lamebrain completely "Pussy whipped."


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 10:15 AM

Let's hear it for "Carbonite." It's an excellent statement.

Of course I haven't a clue what they make, if they actually make anything. But I'll buy some the next time I see it on the shelf.

Cheerily,
Charley "Carbonite" Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 10:17 AM

I don't know about that, Greg F. He's losing his sponsors. Some may come back but others won't. Any new ones may sign up only on the condition that he tone it down. We may be witnessing the final days of Rush Blowhard as a relevant force in the conservative right. Much like Glenn Beck he's making himself appeal only to the hardcore haters of his audience. I have to believe followers have been falling away if his sponsors are ready to walk.

He has saturated America and there's nowhere to go but down. As soon as a loudmouth/bombastic host is forced to apologize, that's usually it for him. It's a coast downhill after that. It's a show of weakness for these types and it never has the intended effect.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 11:13 AM

Looks like the number of sponsors that Butt Rash has now lost is 6... Hey, what a coincidence... Isn't that Butt Rash's IQ???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 01:14 PM

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-fcc-remove-rush-limbaugh-from-the-air


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 01:31 PM

It's ok for non-Americans to sign that petition. I just did. FWIW.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 01:43 PM

Just signed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 02:01 PM

I signed and sent requests to 15 others to do so... We all own the public airwaves and we don't need this kinda stuff out there where kids can hear it...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 02:02 PM

The following image comes courtesy of "The Conservative Commune." Some online site called The Conservatory:

The conservative response


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 02:59 PM

I just pointed out that poster "The Conservative Response' to Kendall. His reply, which I agree with was

"Mean spirited, narrow minded bastards"

Typical really of this type of conservative. This is the mindset that, if they can't win a discussion using rationality, resorts to nastiness instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 03:38 PM

If anyone's asking me, the Conservatives are scared for once, and that's a good thing, imo. I'm hoping this gal will sue Limbaugh, because there's little doubt she'll win, and lawyers/law firms will be tripping over each other to prosecute the case on her behalf. Perhaps she could name the radio stations that broadcast his remarks in the suit for damages. That would be beautiful to see. And ol' Rush baby will be looking for a job.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 03:39 PM

Point of clarification.... Doesn't one have to have a mind to have a mindset??? No???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 03:42 PM

Rush Limbaugh smokes Cuban cigars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 04:16 PM

George Will (old-school conservative) on ABC's This Week (from Talking Points Memo):
"It would've been nice if they had shared that with the larger public, the Republican leaders," Will said on ABC's This Week. "Instead, Mr. Boehner comes out and says, Rush's language was inappropriate. Using a salad fork for your entree, that's inappropriate. Not this stuff. I mean, and Rick Santorum says well, what he says was absurd, but an entertainer is allowed to be absurd. No. It is the responsibility of conservatives to police the right in its excesses, just as the liberals unfailingly fail to police the excesses in their own side. And it was depressing, because what it indicates is that the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh. They want to bomb Iran, but they're afraid of Rush Limbaugh."

It's depressing to be feeling good about George Will. Sigh.

I am advised by a friend (and maybe someone mentioned it further upthread, too), that Michael Savage makes Rush Limbaugh look good. I've never heard of him; maybe like Glenn Beck is, finally, he's relegated to the outer fringes by the mainstream media, so he's off the radar. Rush somehow is making noise that breaks out of his bubble.

~ Becky in Tucson

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 04:26 PM

The conservatives could go on a comedy tour after this. I honestly, and I MEAN honestly can't imagine them being serious about ANY of those candidates. They're SO un-presidential, they say idiotic things and most seem to want to destroy everything the PEOPLE have built in the USA.

Everybody (rightly) blames Rush for the 'slut' comment, but it started with Santorum and the whole "not forcing others (especially women) to follow our religious rules is a violation of OUR religious freedom."


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 05:01 PM

Well said, Jeri.


http://www.change.org/petitions/the-fcc-remove-rush-limbaugh-from-the-air


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: gnu
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 05:58 PM

Anyone can sign it! Me too! Just did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 07:24 PM

Here, too!

Just a thought. . . .

Rush Limbaugh's automobile is Maybach 57S, which runs around $450,000 fully loaded. He also owns half a dozen similar automobiles.

And five homes in the Palm Beach area. His main abode is some 24,000 square feet. He lives there with a cat and his current wife. He's been married four times (no children). He met his fourth and present wife at a celebrity golf tournament. He paid a reported $1 million to Elton John to sing at the wedding.

Rush earned (?) the money for all this splendor by pandering to the hatreds and prejudices—and the ignorance—of his Right-Wing listeners.

So—just who is the slut here?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: gnu
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 07:27 PM

Don... certainly not Rash. Sluts don't make that kinda money. Whores do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Wesley S
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 07:57 PM

FYI - Carbonite as I recall is a service that backs up your computer in case of failure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 08:07 PM

BTW, ya'll be sure to send the petition to 15 friends a day... I sent mine...

Butt Rash must go...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 09:26 PM

Not even whores make that much money.

Pimps might, though. He's a pimp, selling a diseased product to those who don't know (or want to know) any better. He panders himself, in the original sense of the word, to corporate interests and the wealthy.

"Rush, man, Rush's the stuff to drink
For fellows who it hurts to think."


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 10:15 PM

"Rush, man, Rush's the stuff to drink
For fellows who it hurts to think."

No offense, but it's 'whom'.


AND, at risk of repeating myself, once again, encore, for a second time, say that about my kids and you go be end up in a river. NO shit!


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 04 Mar 12 - 11:45 PM

A seventh advertiser, ProFlowers, has pulled out of the show. (btw, the Cleveland Cavaliers was not an advertiser. Track the situation here at ThinkProgress.org.)

Limbaugh's "apology" was posted on his website. Think he'll say anything about it on the air tomorrow?

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott
From: Penny S.
Date: 05 Mar 12 - 05:03 AM

I looked through the comments on his site, and the petition site. I find it hugely ironic that the members of the party he supports who want to get elected go on about how great and wonderful America is, while the admirable spirit that actually started the place can more clearly be seen in the petition supporters than the Limbaugh supporters, who, if possible, are more foul brained than he is.

(Don't get me wrong here, but I think the Declaration and the Constitution are the pinnacle of the thinking that started with the British radicals from the 14th century onwards, and regard it as a great shame that it had to go across the Atlantic to happen.)

(And another aside - Santorum was going on about freedom from monarchs as if George III was the only voice that counted over here, when he was already bound to follow Parliament. Which was bent. In the grip of rich magnates who paid no attention to the people. The people? What have they got to do with anything? Does that sound familiar?)

Penny


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