Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Mar 12 - 10:11 PM I have plenty of empathy for Ms Fluke and the very unpleasant spot she's been put in by Rush, 999. I've always thought Limbaugh was a truly horrible man, and his behaviour beyond the pale. He's like a human slug. But I don't plan to spend much of my time focusing on him and the seamy stuff he does. I'm a lot more worried about things like the prospective attack on Iran, global high finance maneuvers, etc. Limbaugh is a flyspeck on the windshield of life. Bobert asked, "What will the wackos do when he's gone???" Oh, well...his particular set of wackos will do exactly as they do now when he's gone. In his absence they will find someone very similar to replace him. He's temporary...just like all USA presidents are. I'm a lot more worried about what a large consortium of multinational corporations and giant international banks and military powers will do than about what Rush Limbaugh will do. He's a noisy distraction. He likes getting lots of attention. That's his job. If his present rotten behaviour toward Ms Fluke gets him the "wrong kind of attention" and ends up damaging or destroying his career...well, I wouldn't be a bit sorry to see that happen. He's probably gambling that it will boost his career in the longrun. And I've already spent way more time talking about him than he's worth to me to talk about...so I think I'll leave it at that. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,999 Date: 06 Mar 12 - 10:12 PM As a btw, there is NO way that the Chongo who wrote below is LH. Likely a Willy Less a Sam. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,999 Date: 06 Mar 12 - 10:14 PM Fuck, did I read you wrong. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Bobert Date: 06 Mar 12 - 10:17 PM No Rust and rightie America is like a ship with no rudder... They will be insane... They will exhibit mental health challenges... Serious business... B~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 07 Mar 12 - 08:42 AM RSVP, another local Maine company, has pulled its ads. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Desert Dancer Date: 07 Mar 12 - 12:32 PM More and more, including JC Penney and Capital One. The Atlantic (second link there) says that a couple of bands have banned him, too. Mitt Romney has said very little on the topic, could it be because Bain Capital is part-owner of Clear Channel? Finally, does boycotting = censorship? I don't think so. I think it's free speech all around. You're free to speak, not free to have someone who disagrees with your speech pay for it. Wouldn't those conservatives agree? ~ Becky in Tucson |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 07 Mar 12 - 02:05 PM Supposedly losing these sponsors is like losing a few fries from the bag. And most of these are local radio station sponsors not sponsors of Limbaugh's program. He claims two new sponsors are joining him in about two weeks. Sounds like a challenge to me. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Ebbie Date: 07 Mar 12 - 03:47 PM Little Hawk at : 06 Mar 12 - 10:11 PM - imo you are missing the mark. You focus on Limbaugh- but he is only the vehicle. Had you bothered to listen to Ms Fluke or to read the transcript of her testimony you would see the vicious malice, the outright lies, that RL spewed. Ms Fluke didn't say or even imply what he says she did so your saying "I have plenty of empathy for Ms Fluke and the very unpleasant spot she's been put in by Rush..." is misplaced. To say the least. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Bobert Date: 07 Mar 12 - 04:18 PM The problem here is that what we have is a 55 gallon drum of hypocrisy... I mean, Don Imus said something stupid and he was gone that day... The "Greaseman" said something stupid and he was gone that day... Ed of the "Ed Show" said something stupid he was suspended that day... We ***do*** have standards that others have to follow... The airwaves, BTW, are owned by the American people... They are not private, like cable... If some cable station wants to put filthy mouthed people on, fine... But not on airwaves that are all of ours... This guy ***has*** to go and if the Republican packed FCC won't do it then this needs to be an election issue... BTW, while we are at it, ClearChannel can kiss my boney butt!!! B~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Don Firth Date: 07 Mar 12 - 04:33 PM I don't recall who said it, but the general thrust was The First Amendment guarantees you Freedom of Speech. But it does NOT require that society furnish you a pulpit from which to speak. Nor does it require that anyone must listen. Amen! Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,999 Date: 07 Mar 12 - 05:15 PM The First Amendment makes it unconstitutional for government to suppress speech, it does NOT guarantee free speech. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: JohnInKansas Date: 07 Mar 12 - 09:00 PM And that part of the First Amendment was really an afterthought. It was proposed in early drafts, elsewhere, and was moved there "for convenience." When the delegates to the original convention took the Constitution home for approval, it was returned by more than half of the "states" (some technically called themselves something else) with the SPECIFIC CONDITION that their ratification was only valid on addition of the first half of the First Amendment. An early version of the "Freedom of Speech" clause, mirrored in a couple of State Constitutions, said, in effect, that "the right to PRINT anything you wish" should not be infringed. Since the newspapers were the only ones with enough money to complain, they largely ruled the warping of the original meaning into whatever it is considered to be now, so thank - or blame - them for any confusion. John |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Donuel Date: 07 Mar 12 - 10:04 PM COnsider it kised Bobert. Boycot is fine but I prefer to link as many reactionary Republicans to LImbaugh as possible. For example Vagina Govenor Bob Ultrasound should be linked to Rush in Pictures and video for the rest of his careening career. Republican Seaturtle McConnel should also be be seen embracing the LImbaugh till his dieing day. For all the decades in which Republicans have loved the Limbaugh Feminazi remarks, they should now be inextricably bound to Rush with rope tied with a dozen Gordian knots. In fact one should say (and Limbaugh) anytime they mention any Republican by name. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,tia Date: 07 Mar 12 - 10:29 PM A boycott IS capitalism made flesh. Isn't that what the righties want? |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,999 Date: 07 Mar 12 - 10:49 PM The problem with argument is understanding. My right to swing my arm stops at the end of your nose. I was once sworn to protect that right. I have never swore off that right. Nor will I ever. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: JohnInKansas Date: 08 Mar 12 - 02:04 AM The State of Missouri has just admitted Limbaugh to be honored by inclusion in it's "Hall of Famous Missourians." Although there are objections, the one and only person authorized to name persons for the hall has said it will be done and the contract for his bust has apparently been signed. John |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Ebbie Date: 08 Mar 12 - 02:32 AM There have always been a lot of asses in Missouri. And by accident they might get it right. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,TIA Date: 08 Mar 12 - 07:12 AM I cannot watch this the whole way through because I get too pissed off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OAF9s6n5cBY#! The 70 sexist smears. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Bobert Date: 08 Mar 12 - 07:49 AM Don hit the nail on the head... We don't need to provide the pulpit... Let Butt Rash have his own cable network... Maybe they could call it the Potty Mouth Network... B~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: jacqui.c Date: 08 Mar 12 - 09:14 AM We're just off to be there when a petition is handed in to our local radio station asking that Limbaugh be taken off the air. As of last evening there were over 5000 signatures gathered in a matter of a couple of days. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 08 Mar 12 - 10:02 AM An interesting tidbit from the Wall Street Journal which may explain why Clear Channel is hanging on to Limbaugh, their cash cow: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204276304577263432206437496.html?mod=WSJ_article_forsub |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Desert Dancer Date: 08 Mar 12 - 12:00 PM Photoshopping history: Rush has scrubbed his website of much of the transcript record of his insults. Of course, other sites still have clips of video or audio. ~ Becky in Tucson |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 08 Mar 12 - 12:05 PM Yesterday, the manager of the local station claimed that he had heard of a petition to dump Limbaugh but hadn't seen it and probably never would. Apparently these petitions come and go but never make it to the station. They didn't have Jacqui before. LOL http://www.pressherald.com/news/Petition-calls-on-WGAN-to-drop-Limbaugh.html 5700 signatures in about 2 days. Not bad. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,TIA Date: 08 Mar 12 - 12:17 PM Desert Dancer is correct...he cannot hide it. Here is the disgusting compilation: 70 sexist smears |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,999 Date: 08 Mar 12 - 03:25 PM Until such time as the FCC is brought into line this shit will continue to happen. Flush Rush and there'll be another turd in the same toilet bowl within hours. That's no reason NOT to flush Rush, but as LH mentioned, he's been doing the same stuff for decades, and he has an audience. Make the Cuban-cigar smoking asshole a thing of the past, but there will still be cigar rollers and radio stations to pay for his ilk. Will his downfall be a Fluke? I hope so. But I think you Americans take stuff too lightly. Break his fucking legs. If anyone said that about my daughters, there is NO question that that is what I'd do. I mean NO question. I know that you may think I'm a bad person. Fine by me. But WTFU! You have let this happen. And it's still happening. Is that a surprise to anyone? Oh, the members of the FCC are as follows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission Get in touch and say what you think. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Don Firth Date: 08 Mar 12 - 04:00 PM Any day now! Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Desert Dancer Date: 09 Mar 12 - 01:19 PM Rush Limbaugh Show Includes Over 5 Minutes Of Dead Air As Advertiser Exodus Continues There were four separate instances during this afternoon's broadcast on WABC 770 AM in New York City where the network fell silent. During the lead in to the show, two and a half minutes of silence was broken up by a single, solitary ad before Limbaugh hit the air. Then, towards the end of the first hour of Limbaugh's three hour program, a public service announcement was followed by an additional minute of silence before Limbaugh returned. Another minute of dead air came in hour two, and a fifth minute in hour three followed that. A spokesperson for WABC wouldn't say whether the silence was caused due to a technical glitch or Limbaugh's fleeing sponsors. Doesn't sound sustainable to me! (in NYC, at least) ~ Becky in Tucson |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: ChanteyLass Date: 09 Mar 12 - 10:47 PM Yes, I heard about that. I would prefer silence to Limbaugh or ads, and I agree it doesn't sound sustainable. But it isn't over while he is still on the air at all. I wonder what is going on between him and the network. I haven't yet gone to my e-mail Inbox today, but I'm guessing their will be many more petitions/letters to sign. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: katlaughing Date: 09 Mar 12 - 11:24 PM I wrote to the head of the FCC. Thanks for the link, Bruce. Love hearing about that dead air; though I hope it wasn't an engineer's fault. My Rog would never have allowed dead air on his station as long as he was chief engineer, but then they never carried that kind of ilk, either. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 12 Mar 12 - 10:12 AM Here's and interesting tidbit. Maybe we need to start requesting Huckabee. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/03/11/david-frum-mike-huckabee-brings-on-rush-limbaugh-s-decline.html |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: jacqui.c Date: 13 Mar 12 - 09:02 AM Interesting article. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Desert Dancer Date: 13 Mar 12 - 03:39 PM Yes, interesting. Today's news: Limbaugh's show's distributor, Premiere Networks, is suspending for two weeks some of the national advertising that would appear on the show (the ads that come up from the affiliate stations, rather than those that are contracted through Premiere, if I'm understanding the process correctly). ThinkProgress, The Atlantic Wire ~ Becky in Tucson |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: katlaughing Date: 13 Mar 12 - 06:12 PM New updated petition HERE |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 13 Mar 12 - 07:25 PM Do they really think that in two weeks we will have forgotten or moved on? heh heh. Wonder how many french fries make up a national advertiser. Bet ole rush is crawling around the back seat of his car trying to find some. Better and better... |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: ChanteyLass Date: 13 Mar 12 - 10:27 PM Thanks for the link, Kat. I signed. I sign a lot of Credo's petitions but don't remember seeing that one in my Inbox. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: jacqui.c Date: 14 Mar 12 - 09:21 AM Signed and sent to my facebook page. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Penny S. Date: 14 Mar 12 - 02:33 PM Bit of a tangent here, but I gather a number of USA papers have dropped the Doonesbury strip this week. No outcry before they did it. Day One Day Two Day Three I'm wondering where my copy of "Handmaid's Tale" is. Penny |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: katlaughing Date: 14 Mar 12 - 03:59 PM Penny, thanks for the links. Doonesbury is always so on! Stupid papers! |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Penny S. Date: 14 Mar 12 - 04:53 PM I have to admit to an odd reaction when I turned my Guardian to the quick crossword, under which Doonesbury resides, on Monday. A touch of dropped jaw. And as for Tuesday! (I wouldn't have got that without the Mudcat!) Penny |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: jacqui.c Date: 15 Mar 12 - 09:41 AM I'm wondering where my copy of "Handmaid's Tale" is I've been thinking the same thing for a while now. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: saulgoldie Date: 15 Mar 12 - 03:02 PM Wasn't quite sure which thread to post this to. It's Rush. It's Santorum. It's lunatic right. Anyway...I hope you don't die laughing from some of the posts in the thread like I almost did! War on Women Saul |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: ChanteyLass Date: 15 Mar 12 - 11:39 PM It is no surprise to me that the Providence (RI) Journal, or ProJo, has not been carrying the Doonesbury strips. I've followed them online at GoComics.com. But today, Thursday, someone "made a mistake" and today's strip was in its regular spot on the comic page! Also there was a mention of the "mistake" in the Corrections column in another section. My friends and I are speculating that it was done deliberately by someone, but if so I hope the powers at ProJo never find out who did it. Also, we think many readers were unaware that the strip had been replaced. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: beardedbruce Date: 21 Mar 12 - 07:41 AM Rush was wrong. So was Maher. "Bristol Palin Sets Perfect Catch-22 for President Obama By L. Vincent Poupard | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 14 hrs ago COMMENTARY | Bristol Palin believes President Barack Obama should call her to apologize for the comments made about her by Bill Maher just as he called Sandra Fluke about the comments made about the law student by Rush Limbaugh, according to ABC News. Palin has blogged about how the cases are similar, but the president is not calling her since she is a Republican and Maher made a $1 million contribution to the Democrat-run super PAC. As a political scientist, I have to applaud Palin for setting up a perfect catch-22 for the president. Palin used her blog to point out how President Obama has not made statements about what was said about her by Maher but condemned Limbaugh for what he said about Fluke. She pointed out how the president made comments condemning the media during the last election for going after her but has stayed silent on this issue. She has taken herself from being mentioned in this controversy to being a player in it. Due to Palin's blog, the ball is in President Obama's court. If he calls her, it will appear to be due to the pressure by the right to treat her the same way he treated Fluke. The former vice-presidential candidate's daughter made a statement in her blog about the president being the president of all Americans and not just Democrats. If the president does not call her, it will solidify the thought he let Maher get away with the comments made due to the donation and the comedian's political leanings. It will show a double standard of how it is OK for a public figure to say anything he or she wants as long as he or she is a liberal and makes contributions toward the Democrat reelection funds. We might see the buddings of a political career in the young Palin. She was able to send a challenge and set a trap at the same time for President Obama. While many politicians try to do this on a daily basis, few can be as successful as the young reality star could be. Bristol wins no matter what happens. http://news.yahoo.com/bristol-palin-sets-perfect-catch-22-president-obama-203800257.html |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:07 AM I think that Maher was correct in stating that fascist loons are trying to assert a false equivalency. Is there any news how Sandra Fluke's libel claim is coming along? I know there are fules claiming that US libel law disentitles her to protection but I don't believe them, and the benchmarks they try to set for factual assertion and allegations of unchastity are not in the least persuasive. Perhaps I should look up whether Fluke has a claim in the UK since Limbaugh's statements about her were clearly republished (and likely to be republished) here. We have clamped down a bit in recent years on forum-shopping but I wonder if we have closed the door on such a claim as this would be. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: GUEST,999 Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:30 AM "Rush was wrong. So was Maher." What's your point, BB? |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:35 AM The boycotts continue. Meantime, Hannity is getting a spot in Limbaugh's time slot on competing stations. Maybe they smell blood. Bruce, Earlier in this thread I stated that the "c" remark was as offensive to ALL women as L's "slut, etc. The difference to me is that Fluke is a private person appearing before Congress. The Palins are public figures who have appeared on TV shows, magazine covers, etc and made their personal lives public fodder for comedians, gossip columns and talk show hosts. Bristol Palin's on again off again engagement and public airing of her personal problems left her wide open to jokes. No presidential apology is necessary. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: beardedbruce Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:39 AM Point is the loud silence when those who support the Left act in a manner that , when acted by the Right are cause for loud concern. Such as this, or calling Iraq a "war for oil" and Libya not. Or claiming that Bush should be impeached for actions that when done by Obama are just fine. If one has different rules for what one's own side does than for what the opposition does, there is a basic flaw. If one reverses the sides, and the results seem fair when they were not before, you were wrong is at least one case, if not both |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: SINSULL Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:46 AM So why not head a boycott of Maher's show? By the way, women on the right and left are boycotting Limbaugh. They see it as a woman's issue. Trying to claim that liberals are behind it is a joke. Who do you see on the right coming to Limbaugh's defense? |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: beardedbruce Date: 21 Mar 12 - 11:45 AM SINSULL, "By the way, women on the right and left are boycotting Limbaugh. They see it as a woman's issue. Trying to claim that liberals are behind it is a joke. Who do you see on the right coming to Limbaugh's defense?" I do not defend Limbaugh because he was wrong, as I said. Why is it that ONLY women ( and men) on the right saw Maher's comments as a woman's issue, from the response to those comments then and now?? Who do YOU see on the LEFT coming out AGAINST Maher? Trying to claim that it is not political bias is the joke. |
Subject: RE: BS: Calling All Sluts: Boycott From: Greg F. Date: 21 Mar 12 - 12:07 PM Poor, Poor, Pitiful Palin. Only those who embrace the paranoid delusion of the "liberal media" would see these cases as "equivalent". |