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Rapparee 02 Jul 09 - 09:48 AM
Little Hawk 02 Jul 09 - 10:31 AM
freda underhill 03 Jul 09 - 04:01 AM
fat B****rd 03 Jul 09 - 04:08 AM
Will Fly 03 Jul 09 - 04:20 AM
Ron Davies 03 Jul 09 - 07:58 AM
GUEST,Dani 03 Jul 09 - 08:25 AM
GUEST,daylia 03 Jul 09 - 09:22 AM
Ron Davies 03 Jul 09 - 09:32 AM
daylia 04 Jul 09 - 09:37 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 04 Jul 09 - 09:41 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 09:48 AM

That sounds so pleasant, Freda. We had to run a gauntlet of cougars and velociraptors and giant people-eating bats (and worse) just to go out the back door to play on the gallows. Of course, we always saved those we had to kill so we'd have something for dinner, and we ALWAYS wiped our feet before coming back into the house. We couldn't afford shoes, so we painted our feet black or brown and carefully drew laces. We had our pride, you know.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 10:31 AM

Har! Har! Har!

Man, this is getting good. I wonder if Chongo has any childhood tales to tell?

Looks like the MJ boycott thread is now totally derailed...but that's okay.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Jul 09 - 04:01 AM

oops...

I've been around the world a couple of time, or maybe more,
I've seen the sights, I've had delights on ev'ery foreign shore,
But when my friends all ask me the place that I adore,
I tell them right away.

give me a home among the gum trees
With lots of plum trees, a sheep or two, a kangaroo.
A clothesline out the back, verandah out the front
And an old rocking chair.

You can see me in the kitchen cooking up a roast,
Or vegemite on toast, just you and me, a cup of tea.
Later on, we'll settle down and mull up on the porch
And watch the possums play.

Give me a home among the gum trees.
With lots of plum trees, a sheep or two, a kangaroo.
A clothesline out the back, verandah out the front
And an old rocking chair.

There's a Safeway on the corner and a Woolworths down the street,
A New World's just been opened where they regulate the heat,
But I'd trade them all tomorrow for the simple bush retreat
Where the kookaburras call.

Give me a home among the gum trees.
With lots of plum trees, a sheep or two, a kangaroo.
A clothesline out the back, verandah out the front
And an old rocking chair.

Some people like their houses with fences all around,
Others live in mansions, and some beneath the ground,
But me, I like the bush, you know, with rabbits running round
And a pumpkin vine out the back.

Give me a home among the gum trees.
With lots of plum trees, a sheep or two, a kangaroo.
A clothesline out the back, verandah out the front
And an old rocking chair...


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: fat B****rd
Date: 03 Jul 09 - 04:08 AM

Luxury !!


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Jul 09 - 04:20 AM

OK - y'all asked for it! Four Yorkshiremen


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: Ron Davies
Date: 03 Jul 09 - 07:58 AM

Thanks, Will.   I can't believe I've never seen that one.   Of course we used to just dream about even hearing about Monty Python, let alone see it.

Really, that is one of the all-time classics (as you know).

And it makes this whole interminable thread wonderful (though Hitler's view on Jackson's death was also a great clip.)


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 03 Jul 09 - 08:25 AM

The Hitler/MJ clip was great. My favorite Hitler parody (about the mortgage bust):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4i9myVRDsg

the "SS" gets me every time!

Couldn't find the jazz one...

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: GUEST,daylia
Date: 03 Jul 09 - 09:22 AM

Memories of Michael as a fellow musician ... from a sound tech who knew and worked with him

"I was fortunate enough to work with MJ early in my career. He was an incredible artist. Talented beyond your wildest dreams. Extremely generous, and a hard worker...

Some random memories:

One morning MJ came in with a new song he had written overnight. We called in a guitar player, and Michael sang every note of every chord to him. "here's the first chord first note, second note, third note. Here's the second chord first note, second note, third note", etc., etc. We then witnessed him giving the most heartfelt and profound vocal performance, live in the control room through an SM57.

He would sing us an entire string arrangement, every part. Steve Porcaro once told me he witnessed MJ doing that with the string section in the room. Had it all in his head, harmony and everything. Not just little eight bar loop ideas. he would actually sing the entire arrangement into a micro-cassette recorder complete with stops and fills...

During the recording of "Smile" on HIStory, Bruce thought it would be great if Michael would sing live with the orchestra. But of course, we didn't tell the players that. We set him up in a vocal booth off to the side. They rehearsed a bit without vocals in, then during the first take Michael sang, just about knocked them out of their chairs.

His beatboxing was without parallel, and his time was ridiculous.

His sense of harmony was incredible. Never a bad note, no tuning, even his breathing was perfectly in time.

Once, while we were taking a break, I think we were actually watching the OJ chase on TV, there was a news program talking about him being in Europe with some little boy. I was sitting next to the guy while the news is making this crap up. He just looked at me and said this is what I have to deal with.

I spent close to 3 years working with him, and not once did I question his morals, or ever believe any of the allegations. I wasn't even a fan then. I saw him interact with his brothers kids, other people's children, and at one point my own girlfriend's kids. I got to spend a day at Neverland with them. A completely incredible human being, always looking for a way to make all children's lives better. Every weekend at Neverland was donated to a different children's group - children with AIDS, children cancer, etc., and most of the time he wasn't there.

He was simply living the childhood he never had. In many ways he never grew up...

Oh, and one more IMPORTANT thing. I have never worked with a nicer man than Michael. He was gracious, talented as all get-out, gentle, humble, a perfect gentleman, never swore, was healthy, punctual, and just the very sweetest person I could have ever hoped to work with. Oh, what a brilliant star he was! Absolutely, gone too soon."

*********************************************************************

Posting this as a tribute to his exceptional talent and musicianship. Its the best, and most credible account of Jackson I've read yet. He's a few months younger than me .. I grew up admiring him, as a child prodigy. Never got into his 80's or 90's stuff - too "disco" for my taste - and I never fell for all the rot he's had thrown at him by the press and various leeches, vampires and bloodhounds over the years.

I've bookmarked a youtube video of him singing "Ben" at age 13. It had been years -- decades, even -- since I heard that song, but I couldn't get it out of my head the night I heard the news of his death. I could still remember all the words. Must have sung it along with him a million times, as a kid ...

anyway, thats how I will remember Michael - imo, its him at his very best.

Someday, press and public willing, he may be allowed to RIP.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: Ron Davies
Date: 03 Jul 09 - 09:32 AM

You're right, Dani, that works perfectly.   Interesting how that clip from "Untergang" lends itself to several different scenarios.

Daylia-"Ben" is Michael at his peak?   I must have missed something. Is his tongue firmly in cheek when singing to a rat?

As I mentioned earlier, I loved Michael as a 10-year old squeaking:   "Get up, girl.   Show me what you can do". A great sense of humor shown by the producers of that. But I thought after the first 3 hits it was straight downhill.

Again, taste, I suppose.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: daylia
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 09:37 AM

I don't even want to THINK about where that tongue might have been, Ron   =]   but I do know its fairly common for young males to adore rats. My boys loved their pet rats with a passion ... nasty creepy toxic hive-mongering little beasts that they were (the rats i mean, not my kids =]


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 09:41 AM

Good to read some kind and compassionate words about Michael, 'daylia', thanks for posting that, a joy to read, albeit tinged with such sadness about the lies being told about him...


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: GUEST,MG
Date: 05 Jul 09 - 12:33 AM

There are starting to be reports that he wanted to adopt the Octuplets, but the offer was not transmitted to the mother. That might have worked out actually. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 05 Jul 09 - 08:51 PM

Here is a joke that I received from a friend.

Farrah dies and goes to Heaven. She meets God at the pearly gates and God says, "Farrah, you have been a gracious person in your lifetime. I will allow you passage into Heaven and will also grant you one wish." Farrah replies, "Thank you, Lord. I can only wish that all of the children in the world will be safe forever." God answers, "It shall be done." 2 hours later, Michael Jackson dies.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 12:27 AM

I guess you're as dense as you are persistent, maple_leaf_boy.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am boycotting the MJ obit thread
From: daylia
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 09:07 AM

in case anyone here still gives a hoot ... info/pics re Michael Jackson's skin disease

He wasn't bleaching his skin, turning against his own race etc. He was suffering from a fairly common skin disorder -- vitiligo/lupus -- that destroys natural pigmentation and leaves the skin spotted, ghostly white and extremely vulnerable to sunlight.

Its amazing -- not to mention depressing -- to watch how many people can become so blinded by hatred, jealousy, greed and meanspiritedness that they choose to ignore the explanation (its been around for years now) and continue to spew accusations/ridicule at him instead.

I think this world might become a better, kinder place if his words from the interview above were plastered over every TV screen/computer monitor for the next little while ...


"Oprah: So okay, I just want to get this straight, you are not taking anything to change the color of your skin …

Michael: Oh, God no, we tried to control it and using make-up evens it out because it makes blotches on my skin, I have to even out my skin...

But you know what's funny, why is that so important? That's not important to me. I'm a great fan of art, I love Michelangelo, if I had the chance to talk to him or read about him I would want to know what inspired him to become who he is, the anatomy of his craftsmanship, not about who he went out with last night … what' wrong with … I mean that's what is important to me."


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