BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 01:33 PM

theleveller: "Being a Mudcat 'regular', now takes on a whole new meaning....or is that a 'hole' new meaning??"
As, indeed, does the Beatle's song 'We Can Work It Out'."

Have you considered using a corkscrew?...then you'd have fun with a hole new twist! Chubby Checker would be revived!
"Come on Baby, let's do the twist...."
and for constipation, you can you could repeat the chorus of 'Twistin' the Night Away'!!!"
"Let's twist away, like we did last summer..."
"Twist and Shout..work it on out"..."and it goes like this..you go round and round and round..."

and after you make a mess, you can start 'Slip Slidin' Away'...but at least you can consider yourself a 'little hipper'!.

Regards,(but change you shoes before getting on the dance floor and doing the 'Mash'!....and for the victims of constipation, "The Monster Mash"

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: maeve
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 01:48 PM

Izal toilet paper, with suggestions for usage thereof

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 03:24 PM

Aha! I DO remember that stuff now. It used to be in those rest stops on the highways...maybe still is. And in schools and other institutions. I bet it's incredibly cheap, and that's why they use it.

And, yes, it's bloody awful! What were they thinking of to invent such a product?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Penny S.
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 03:38 PM

Izal's chief competitor was called Bronco.

Leading to the children's ditty:

Bronco, Bronco, tear it along the dotted line...

You may recognise the source and the tune.
I don't remember a second line, though.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 04:20 PM

Izal was hygienic. Being slippery on one side it kept your hand dry while the non-slippery side dealt with the business! And it was impregnated with disinfectant, remember that smell? We also put a few sheets of it inside the piano at school. The result was a very pleasing percussion effect when the hammers hit the paper. ("Concerto in G for piano and Izal")

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 12:56 AM

Tastes great, too!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: gnomad
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:25 AM

The disinfectant in Izal was also available in liquid form (in fact I think that it still is) it had a strong and very distinctive smell. Useful for dealing with residual whiffs if you had, for instance, needed to clear an outside drain, or clean up a rubbish bin.

Led to the childhood ditty-

Ding dong dell,
Pussy's in the well,
But now we've put some Izal down,
And never mind the smell.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 03:11 AM

Isn't it strange how folk song( real folk song) always seems to be there when our trousers are down....

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 03:45 AM

Depends what 'instrument' you play with.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 06:07 AM

In spite of this long thread drift, isn't it nice to read some funny, good-humoured and well-mannered posts? No 'obnoxious members', and a lot of fun and pleasure.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 06:36 AM

Yes, the best way to get Mudcatters to behave as reasonable adults is to change the subject to something having to do with shit.

(Those requiring visual cues to determine if a statement is meant seriously or humorously may imagine a "smiley face" here: _______.)

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 08:59 PM

Guest Eliza: "In spite of this long thread drift, isn't it nice to read some funny, good-humoured and well-mannered posts? No 'obnoxious members', and a lot of fun and pleasure."

I find your polite and completely well meaning spirit of courtesies, especially in this forum, just a little bit TOO OBNOXIOUS. What are you up to??...Are you a troll in disguise??

Actually, WARMEST REGARDS!........(you mood wrecker)

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 03:20 AM

Bee-dubta-ell: "Yes, the best way to get Mudcatters to behave as reasonable adults is to change the subject to something having to do with shit."

No shit???....Naw, you're just shittin' me!

Actually, if your right cheek and the left cheek would just stick together, no shit would go by!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: bubblyrat
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 04:18 AM

Yes, I remember Bronco very well ; both the TV series and the toilet paper .
       "Show me a man who's used it once

          I'll show you a man who's used it twice ;

          Once any man has used it twice

          He doesn't smell very nice ".

Ty Hardon , wasn't it ?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 05:43 AM

Guest from Sanity, teehee, you've guessed my secret! I'm a troll in disguise! My sickening bonhomie is guaranteed to make you puke! Hahahaha!! (Actually, best wishes to you too, you little devil!)

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:16 AM

I KNEW IT!!!!! You just lay in wait to say nice things and build people up, and remind them of being basically good folks....How DARE You!?!?

You must be the leader of the organization known as 'Trolls on parade'!

Me?....I'm like an alien from outer space, looking for evidence of INTELLIGENT life on planet earth......this is the right place isn't it??

Oh my....I'm just SO confused......calling all trolls, calling all trolls....help me out!!!

Shit, where am I??..Where's my computer???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 02:59 AM

Guest from...er...Sanity?? I am indeed the Leader of Trolls on Parade.
If you do not behave yourself, I will Cheer You Up!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 03:43 AM

Damn!..I hate when that happens!!!
Damn trolls!.....They make me so miserable I have fun coming on here finding them..but alas, and alack they find me first....
Your place or mine??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 04:29 AM

This thread has the (not so faint) whiff of smug self-righteousneness – no intention of becoming involved, but just thought I'd share some thoughts, then go on my way.
Personally I find describing members of this forum as "turds, pricks and twats" fairly obnoxious, as I do the term "obnoxious" itself.
I do take offence to terms like "Paddy" when describing Irish people, as do many of my neighbours (I'm a Brit who has chosen to live in Ireland, mainly because of warm friendliness of the people here) – it is regarded as a derogatory term when used by non-Irish people just as "nigger" is considered offensive when used by non-black people.
Anybody who has read any of my postings in the non-music Threads section will know that my particular thing is racism, which I have been brought up both to detest and to fear and which personal experience has introduced me first hand to the effects of.
Thirty-odd years ago my wife and I began recording songs and stories from members of a community to whom racial prejudice is an everyday occurrence. That prejudice ranges from humiliating name-calling and being refused service in shops and pubs, to being deprived of basic rights that the rest of us take for granted, clean water, sanitation, ready access to medical care, education for their children, regular employment.... you name it, they don't have it. It even stretches as far as physical assaults and arson attacks aimed at whole families.
The end result of all this is that members of that community have a life expectance which is at least ten years less than the rest of us.
Many of the people we met over the years became close personal friends; most we recorded are now dead and the age at which most of them died bear out the life expectancy figures (re-confirmed last week in the press). So if I become stroppy when I hear terms like "nacker", "pikey" and "gyppo" (the latter two used extremely aggressively by a contributor to this thread) you'll have to put it down to my bad upbringing.
An added element to this for those of us involved in traditional music is that those abusive terms and the effect they have on the community they are aimed at, include such people as Jeannie Robertson, the Stewarts, Duncan Williamson, Phoebe Smith, not to mention John Reilly, Margaret Barry, Johnny Doran, John Docherty and Tommy McCarthy, all of whom also qualify for the added description "Paddy" as well.
This element isn't really relevant; nobody should be able to abuse people unchallenged in the way described, whether they are singers or musicians, or not.
Of course some of us become over-enthusiastic and go over the top when we are discussing things we are passionate about, especially when they have touched us personally.
I am disturbed and not a little ashamed that on occasion arguments I have been involved in with one member particularly have led to the driving away of other contributors to threads – am trying to sort that one out.
This aside, we debate these subjects to the best of our ability and if we go over the top on occasion, sorry about that – that is what happens in real life – I grew up in a city where discussions on football often came to blows, and where it was not uncommon to see a notice in a pub reading "no politics – no religion"
So "what to do about obnoxious MC members"? – perhaps you gather them all together on one thread and let them slap each other on the back and tell each other how holier-than-thou they all are (sorry – didn't mean that– just thought I'd try to capture the atmosphere here).
Anyway – I'll let you get on with it – sorry for the interruption.
Jim Carroll
PS I'd really watch that lavatorial/anal fixation some of you seem to have, some people regard such things as "obnoxious".

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 05:07 AM

Obnoxious comments aren't as bad as long winded posts. I almost fell asleep after six lines of this one above, it is as long as the free states overdraft.

Do what I do, ignore obnoxious posters, sadly there is no shortage of them here.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 06:15 AM

"Do what I do, ignore obnoxious posters,"
You should have ignored this one then, shouldn't you - especially as you were the one specifically singled out in the posting?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:42 AM

....but then again, when it comes to being obnoxious, one man's ceiling is another man's floor!

..and a lot of people inaccurately accuse other of being obnoxious, while the accuser is beyond the pale!!

..oh, and by the way..having another side to an opinion is NOT the same as being obnoxious....but you'd never know it on here....(sometimes).

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 12:02 PM

And I would say that the particular "floor" for me is to use a thread whose only purpose is to slag off other members - and show the world how righteous you all are - pretty obnoxious from where I'm standing.
Stick with your 'Bronco' - it seems to be your level
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 12:12 PM

....speaking of being obnoxious...Jim!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Old boy
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 12:15 PM

Joking about 'poo related' matters positively reaffirms our common shared basic humanity..

Don't disrespect the community building power of Poo.. go with the flow...

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:00 PM

Failing that, of course - piss off! ;>)>

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:03 PM

"..speaking of being obnoxious...Jim!"
No GfS
It's bad enough when members of the forum use a thread that can have no other purpose but to pontificate about other members, but when guests come in to tell us how we should respond to topics that interest us...
A bit much really.
This i nasty behaviour on the part of members and guests alike - anyway, I'm gone, so I'll leave you to your pontifications.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:04 PM

Better to be pissed off than pissed on.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:09 PM

...and better to be pissed up than either.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:15 PM

Addressing one of Jim's comments. Lavatorial humour is part of life. It is certainly part of folk music - Childrens song in particular. I expect that you will have found this in your research though, Jim, so it does surprise me that you think people may be offended by it.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:17 PM

Good one, DtG.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:26 PM

I see my suggestion for colour coded posts has not gone down well. Would I purposely offend my old friend, Jim? Of course not.

Sorry about my lavatorial excesses - however I am well struck in years and when you've spent your life being a mucky old sod.....alas there is no bottle of domestos which will restore the inner Whittle to pristine whiteness.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 02:17 PM

I guess the same thing ya do with a drunken sailor earli in the mornin
:-)

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 02:27 PM

Don't worry Al - you're a bright spot in a rather squalid thread
I suppose you're right Dave, much better to talk about shit rather than throw it.
Not really offended, but I thought the somewhat priggish ensemble here might be.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 03:28 PM

I like the color coding idea. When someone says "shit" the font immediately turns brown, if they say "piss" it turns yellow, if they say "jizz" it turns white.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: gnu
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 04:26 PM

BWL... well done!

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Musket
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 04:55 AM

Notice that? Nobody on this thread has called an Irishman a Paddy, yet Jim Carrol reserves the right to be sanctimonious. I believe I stated that somebody having a temper tantrum was called, in most the UK, having a paddy. For someone who rattles on about preserving heritage, he certainly does know how to stifle it...

Does that mean all the people you namedrop in your earlier rant are in your eyes paddies? That's what I seem to be reading? Or is it that they all get angry and have a hissy fit? (With respect to all ethnic hissies out there...)

I suppose that when an industrial unit of mine was broken into eight times over a fortnight and when the police raided the conveniently situated impromptu caravans at the end of the estate, they found some of my property... I shouldn't have used the term "thieving bastards", because after all, it could have been a cultural thing and I was oppressing them with my "values."

In the interest of balance, the industrial unit was on the outskirts of Dublin...

Which leads us to the original thread and obnoxious members. As I see it, I enjoy being obnoxious from time to time, if only to knock sanctimonious people off their perch. It's called getting a reaction, another cultural aspect of being human... You see, in debate, you can slowly bend to the opinion of others and have your perspective altered, and that's a good thing. On forums such as this, I note that we live up to the comments expected of us, hence you don't need to do anything to obnoxious members, as this is not really a debating forum. it is a showpiece for the more focussed aspects of our opinions, and that will always invite ridicule, because we are a broad church as it were..

As an example; Anything sung in a folk club is a folk song.

Wait...

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 05:28 AM

'Tis a shame....because some of my very closest musical friends are Irish/Celts...and I would NEVER even THINK to call them anything other than musicians.....and REALLY AWESOME ones at that!....and even though they are pretty well, internationally known, they are even more awesome, than what they are known for!

..........and I respect that..and them!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 05:59 AM

"I bet he returns "
Only to apologise
"Nobody on this thread has called an Irishman a Paddy,"
Deepest apologiees Ian - I misread your posting - apart from that, everything else stands.
Byeee
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 06:24 AM

'I enjoy being obnoxious from time to time'

Classic! as Jeremy Kyle says - you are the quotes biological father!

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 06:27 AM

Ignore 'em. If they post useful info above the line, that is fine. If they post ridiculous posts below the line, just don't respond. Eventually they will get bored and go to some other forum.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 06:47 AM

You mean there are other forums where you're allowed to be obnoxious? WOW, please tell me where. I feel I've been hiding my light under a bushel.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Musket
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 07:13 AM

Accepted Jim.

Come on Al, we all say things to get a reaction from time to time.. Writing songs can be to get a reaction? Thinking deeply for a moment, every time someone sings a song that parodies or offend others, (political songs?) the person hearing it feels the singer is being obnoxious.

As Albert says, it's all relative.

And as I say, it is not easy to discuss things to a point of accepting the other's viewpoint on these threads, it is far easier to dig in and plug away, hence we can all come over that way. Better to mean to be than not realise I suppose? And that seems to be me, especially when confronting our more evangelical brethren...

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 11:45 AM

Bronco, Bronco, tear it along the dotted line...

You may recognise the source and the tune.
I don't remember a second line, though.

"Bronco, Bronco, just in time."

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: framus
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 09:25 PM

What do you do about all the (alleged) catters who adopt false IDs, defame members and put up totally false posts - surely they are the really obnoxious members. Joking TOTALLY apart.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 10:09 PM

Delete them.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 02:09 AM

You gotta get real tuff with them kinda people.

Take away there dope!

Ground 'em!

Cut there illegal TV cables so's they can't watch "Swamp People"!

Infest there flippin' compyuders with a real bad virus!

Slash there flippin' tires so's they can't drive to the Beer STore!

Tell the cops where there stuff is stashed!

Spread word that they got a real nasty soshial disease so no one will date 'em!

Put crazy glue in there door locks!

And on the door handles too!

Put water in there gas tank!

Put red pepper in their flippin' underwhere and vaseleen in their socks!

Lock a skunk inside there car!

Strip 'em naked and throw 'em out on main street durin' rush hour!

And finally...................................


TAKE AWAY ALL THERE BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That oughta flippin' set 'em to rights, eh?

- Shane

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Megan L
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 03:24 AM

Shane dear was that from personal experience? Granny jis pits them ower her knee and skelps them.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 12:53 PM

What the FLIP!??   You SCALP yer kids over in Scotland?

I think that is goin' way too far! No wonder the flippin' English deesided to take over the place back in 1800 and kill half the people to keep the rest in line, eh?

You would never see a McBride scalp there own kids. Geez! Maybe someone else's kids. But surely not there own!

- Shane

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 07:16 PM

I like the crazy glue idea. Put it on their toilet seats!

Don Firth