BS: Geo W 'death threats'

Subject: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:49 AM

Don't try this at home, kids! From the UK Express & Star newspaper:

Pupils e-mail death threats
Two Staffordshire schoolboys sparked an international operation by CIA agents after they sent e-mails threatening to assassinate US president George W Bush. The messages were sent to the official White House website but were tracked down to a classroom at Blake High School, in Hednesford.
Britain's Special Branch teamed up with the Central Intelligence Agency to investigate the source of the threats. The 15-year-old "assassins," who have not been named, were traced and were shocked to be visited at home by Special Branch officers.
They escaped prosecution and suspension after claiming the e-mails were just a prank. However, they have been given a severe telling-off from both the police and their school.
It is believed the electronic messages made threats to kill the president and included lewd references to his 19-year-old twin daughters Jenna and Barbara.
Heather Bowman, the school's headteacher, said: "The boys received a stern reprimand from both the police and the school." The thoughtless prank proved that in this electronic age all communications were traceable and attributable, she said. Mrs Bowman added that the school had been in the forefront of developments which made international communications easily accessible to all. She said: "The school is well aware of its responsibilities and has good monitoring and security systems in place which are constantly being updated."
A spokeswoman for the Metropolitan Police said: "Special Branch officers made inquiries at the school after allegations that threatening e-mails had been sent."

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: harpgirl
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:09 AM

"thoughtless prank" my fat aunt hattie! I detest resident bush as much as any democrat, but, this sort of thing is not funny, and, they should be punished by more than just a tongue lashing. Bush is not qualified to be president, but, by god, he is not qualified to be murdered either.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:19 AM

Hey harpy!!! I share your sentiment, but I was wondering if you have some sort of list titled, "Qualifications To Be Murdered?" (:<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:26 AM

IN MY OPINION CHILD MOLESTERS AND DRUG DEALERS QUALIFY, SPAW.

I agree with Harpgirl. This is not funny. Hope their computer privileges have been curtailed if not rescinded. Curtailed? Rescinded? I am starting to sound like mousethief! Damn.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:28 AM

Oh Boy.

Is this another US colonisation attempt?

I think the UK is quite capable of dealing with its own teenagers and that heavy handed US operations on UK soil would be rather out of keeping.

On a different tack, would it be OK then to try to assassinate Colonel Quadafy, or Saddam Hussein? If so, why don't we reserve judgment on whether it would be in the best interests of the world to assassinate the US usurper - and suborner of justice and no doubt soon grinder of the face of the working class.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: harpgirl
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:34 AM

Sorry, that was Kendall , not harpgirl.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: harpgirl
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:41 AM

Kendall again....No one is qualified to be assinated...not even GB. Richard Bridge..my statement on that incident was strictly my own opinion, and, it has nothing to do with imaginary lines on a globe. There have been plenty of opinions on the USA from the UK, and, thats ok too.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Uncle Jaque
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:12 AM

"Qualified for assasination":

"Child Molesters":

You mean like the guy who was picking up 15-year old High School girls for occasional "horizontal refreshment", recently pardoned by Komrade Klinton in his last hours as exalted leader of the Free World... then promptly hired by the "Rev-ruund" Jessie JACKSON to work for the "Rainbow Coalition/Push" politically-correct EXTORTION RACKET?

"Drug Dealers":

Like Herr Shlickmeister's own Brother (first time in American history a President has pardoned a family member by the way)? I understand that he was doing time for dealing CO-CAINE.

You just lock, load, an' go GIT 'EM, Tiger!!! (Don't forget the scalps for the ridgepole of yer tipi.)

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Amos
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:21 AM

Kendall-- I'm perplexed at your sign-on anomaliy. The only condition I know of where this sort of name swapping occurs is when two people are shacked up using one computer.

So....have you gone and shacked up with harpgirl? I thought there was a non-permeable dyschronic unidirectional membrane that prevented stuff like that happening between old farts and young tootsies! (I know you're not really a tootsie but....).

A

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: M.Ted
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 01:41 PM

Just noticed that an intruder with a gun was shot on the White House lawn only a couple of hours ago. Dubya was at home--

With due respect to Richard Bridge, it isn't unusual for terrorist actions to originate outside the country where they are carried out, and all governments involved would be remiss if they didn't investigate explicit threats, no matter where they originated, even when the subjects are teenagers.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,stuklee
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 02:10 PM

As Jaque-A would explain it is perfectly all right for the Amerikan C.I.A. to exterminate anyone they wish either directly or by proxy through allies such as Pinochet. Possibly the Mossad into the bargain. The rest of the world? Sod Off!

Cheers

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 02:14 PM

Hehehehehe This is hillarious...

Moral of the story... Use anyone of the dozens of 'IP Blocker' web sites that allow you to surf as A Nonny Mouse... and send yer email death threats from Hotmail.com!

Hehehehehe

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: mousethief
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 02:34 PM

ROTFL! Do I really sound that erudite?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Kim C
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 04:04 PM

I think some kids have way too much time on their hands anymore.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: sophocleese
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 04:09 PM

Death threats should be taken seriously. Taking a death threat seriously does not necessarily mean bashing the perpetrators into the ground. A severe talking to may accomplish the desired change in behaviour, and that is what is needed.

Personally I think kendall is boasting when he signs on as someone else. I'm sure he does it deliberately.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:20 PM

The big mistake Baby Bush has made is to have a vice-president who looks more like a president than he does, and who apparently lacks his saving grace of indolence.

If anyone shoots Bush, I'd advise those investigating it to look very closely at the further reaches of the Republican Party.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:31 PM

Amos and sophoclese...It's really none of your business, but, I was visiting Harpgirl in Florida. She gave me access to her computer to keep in contact with mudcat. That crack about "shacking up" was in very poor taste. If harpgirl was a man, would you say something like that?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: sophocleese
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:41 PM

Yes.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:46 PM

What is your problem? and what has it to do with me?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 07:44 AM

WELL! The real story is, that at the time the looney was waving a gun at the White House, what was the pretender doing?
Well, lets look at what was happening else where and try and guess...
There is a crisis in the Middle East... There is a crisses in the American Military, Baby Bush ran on the promise he would increase money to the army - on the myth that Clinton starved their budget, and this week they asked for the usual day to day increase to cover replacement parts and unexpected expences, and the "army rediness canadate" said NO! Clinton never hessitated on that particular army funding need... a possible case of EBOLA virus had passed through Neward Airport (thank good it later proved not to be Ebola)... in New York associates of Ben Lauden were on trial... so in the middle of this buisy week, in the middle of the day, what was the pretender doing as the looney was being shot at (and bless the guards who realised he was only a threat to him self and did not shoot to kill... give that marksman a medal and our thanks - shot him in the knee when the man put the gun to his own head, to bring him down and save his life...)
WHAT WAS BABY BUSH DOING! Working out in the gym! One look at Clinton and you knew that other than an occastional jog down to MacDonnalds for his big mac and fries, he was not spending hours in the gym while Rome burned!
Best to all, especially that police marksman
Larry

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Troll
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 08:32 AM

No Larry, Clinton would not have been working out in the gym. He would have been getting a BJ in the Oval Office.

troll ***that was almost TOO easy***

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 08:46 AM

So Troll........Which would YOU prefer???(:<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:18 AM



Might surprise you someday, Jacques.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Troll
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:24 AM

I decline to answer on the grounds that my answer may tend to incriminate me.
Besides, my office is rectangular.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Kim C
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:57 AM

Clinton did starve the military budget. Ask any regular soldier in the army and he/she will tell you that many of the posts have substandard barracks that would be condemned by civilian standards, and some of their training equipment is old and decrepit and they waste time repairing it and keeping it running. At least this is what my good friend the Sgt, who is now in his 15th year of service, has told me, and I've never known him to be a liar. A lot of veterans resigned, or didn't re-enlist during the Clinton administration, and recruiting numbers were WAY down in all branches of service.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 01:08 PM

1. Recruting was way down because the ecconomy was so good.
2. One can do the buiness over of the nation over the phone while an intern may be kneeling under the dest (sorry younger mudcatters, I did not start this particular line of poor taste comment...)maybe giving the pres the buisness... however, it is hard to do the work of the nation during a workout, and I don't trust anyone who spends too much time in the gym for any reason!
Cheers
Larry

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 01:11 PM

Corrections... doing the buisness of the nation.... and under the desk... Larry in need of a proof reader...

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 01:15 PM

Hey, I DO need a proof reader... maybe an intern for the band's secritarial work and mudcat posts.... Anyone have a number for Monica Lewinsky?
Don't repete this to my wife... aw shucks, I just quess I will keep spelling poorly :-(
Larry

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: M.Ted
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 01:37 PM

As usual, Larry, you're right--my already low confidence level was lowered markedly when I heard that, though Dick Cheney was at his desk, Dubya was in the gym--and when he eliminated and then restored the AIDS office--I am thinking that, forget the proverbial nuclear war button, this man can't be even trusted to handle a "delete" key-

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 01:47 PM

apparently when the man was shot in the knee he hopped around a little and John Ashcroft had him arrested for dancing.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 02:07 PM

Great LINE petr!!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: kendall
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 02:12 PM

Clintons sec. of defense, Bill Cohen, a republican, said right up to the end of his tenure that the military was in good shape. The republicans spent millions over seas to intice the military to vote for W. They promised them the moon..and, well, in a way, they got it!

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Kim C
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 03:04 PM

Just ask somebody who's in the forces now. And I don't mean any high-ranking officer, I mean the soldiers who do the Real Work. We have the most powerful military force in the world, and have made great strides - BUT so many of our bases are sorely lacking in just basic stuff these people need on a daily basis. My friend the Sgt says it is nothing short of a miracle if all his unit's Humvees and other stuff are all actually working at the same time.

I guess it just depends on how one defines "good shape." Half empty, half full...

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Naemanson
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 03:27 PM

"Clinton did starve the military budget. Ask any regular soldier in the army and he/she will tell you that many of the posts have substandard barracks that would be condemned by civilian standards, and some of their training equipment is old and decrepit and they waste time repairing it and keeping it running. "

Uh Oh! I work in Government procurement, and, no, my job has nothing to do with finding women named Monica.

The above statement is partially true and the situation has little to do with Clinton and lots to do with the various rice bowls and empires within the Defense Department. I have seen war fighting capability on some bases scarificed for facility improvements on others. I have seen so many instances of wasted funds that it would curl your hair. Generally these decisions were the result of inadequate management and poor oversight, not the decreased budget.

We are working with a drastically decreased budget. There is no argument there. But when the budget is decreased it follows that programs should be reconsidered and wasteful ones should be eliminated. On our base we have consolidated offices and people into the smallest footprint possible and are now demolishing the empty buildings. It is up to us, the taxpayers of this nation, to demand that congress push the defense department, and every other department, to review and eliminate wasteful spending. Unfortunately the lobbyists and politicos will never allow that to happen. No one can fight the inertia of deadwood in place.

Gotta stop! I'm getting up on that old soap box and I don't need to go there right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,re:stupidity
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 03:59 PM

First things first, any server running Unix will not without destroying the Drive/s be made NOT to log activity, so annonymity however well advertised does not exist.

Second, any email can be traced these days even from so called anonymous accounts, aol, msn, hotmail and so on.

Third even if a person used a Public Terminal, likely these days, they would still be 'logged' by the provider.

In effect the only way to do this kind of silly emailing is via remote highlevel hacking, A Hack to Phone line, B Hack to server and so on.

Re: Dubya

In Office one month and already one attempt to 'shoot' him, wonder when the copycats will start. BTW It will be very interesting to see how AshKroft deals with this guy.

Those kids in the UK would be in Jail for a very long time if they were in the USA, in fact knowing how the Law Agencies work here, I would not be suprised if after a suitable lull in Jail they both met accidental and sticky ends. That is the reality of the 'New' right in the USA. Very violent very cruel very into accomodating MONEY even if narcotics profits etc. The nearest thing there is would be South America - probably Columbia.

BTW Rush I think the name Jaque is not very accurate, how about Adolf?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Kim C
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 04:05 PM

thanks Brett for that very important piece of clarification. You'll get no argument from me on that. Much appreciated. :)

KFC

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Troll
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 04:11 PM

"GUEST re:stupidity" Of course you DO have documentation other than "well, everybody knows that", for your rather over-blown statements about the "New"right, right? If so lets see it.
Otherwise I will have to consign you to the trash bin with the flat-earthers, UFOlogists, and those who have seen Bigfoot.
In other words, back it up or you've got no credibility.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 04:21 PM

Really? As far as I know, they would have received a much deserved "dressing down" from their school principal, Mom and Dad (maybe), and the local police. Jail time? Come on!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Troll
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 04:34 PM

They could have saved their money Kendall. The military would have voted Republican anyway. Can you give me a citation from Cohen? I must have missed it.
I do know that Clinton is disliked by most of the military personnel that I have talked to and after the fiasco with the absentee ballots they weren't too happy with Gore either.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 04:49 PM

Of course, the ones now sitting in traffic, with the gass needle on E, are kicking themselves now!
Cheers, troll,
Larry
Gee, I really do spell badly, should I see if Monica can spell? Would my wife be as understanding as Hillery... Gee it is only spelling....

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Kim C
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 05:51 PM

Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 06:32 PM

Hey, Guest, I do need to trace a Yahoo user who has been badmouthing my daughter. How do I do it? A lot of very well informed friends (includign ones who get paid by computer comapnies) tell me I can't.

And as for the AMericans who reckon it's OK to send the CIA to see UK schoolkids, what would you do if we sent James Bond (or similar) to question USA schoolgirls?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,re:yahoo-trace
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 07:20 PM

Go to the local County Seat get applciation for court order that simple, BTW the Judge will ask why, and if he/she thinks you are being paranoid deny the request, however if you can show there is danger to your daughter they would grant it but not to you personaly, probably to a Law Enforcement Agency, FBI usualy.

Have you informed Yahoo?, if not try that. They nearly always act. If criminal have you informed the local Cops?

Whatever happens best wishes

:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 07:20 PM

I think if you'll all reread the article, it said the young men in question were met and addressed by agents of "Britain's Special Branch", not by the CIA.

To heck with spelling, everyone needs to read things they'll be reacting to.

Everyone dislikes someone - The idea of Bush for President has never rested easy with me, but if an asssasin succeeds, it'll be Dick Cheney - which is worse?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 07:32 PM

Of course under the old Twenty Year rule for US Presidents he's not scheduled to die out of office anyway. But since he wasn't really elected, maybe it doesn't count.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,re:TrollLimbaugh
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 07:47 PM

Address your compasionate tripe to the parents of the several dead Americans murdered in the last 10 years either in Custody or loosing their cool and doing nothing more dangerous than picking up a brick. This guy had simply ran away from a Patrol Car, his crime = some silly offence like jay walking.

The new right are cocaine snorting bloodthirsty maniacs. Their code of conduct the same as their masters, evil Drug Lords. There is no mercy, they kill with nearly no pause and the body count increases daily. If this was a W European Country there would long since have been Martial Law! In Government they (Republicans) execute victims in some cases without adequate evidence and in most without any proper proceedings at all. If reading these remarks from outside the USA I strongly recommend you copy the thread and pass it to the US Embassy in your country, just to let them know their activity is being reported overseas!

My friend (78) tells me he has seen nothing like these times since Hoover.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 07:50 PM

Troll...I saw him on tv, and, I heard him say it myself. I dont remember how the military felt when "The Actor" sent all those Marines to Lebanon with no bullets in their rifles, does anyone have the scoop on that?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Troll
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:23 PM

Thanks Kendall, I hadn't heard that one. I do know that the troops with empty guns were pretty pissed about it. As I recall it wasn't that they didn't have bullets, they weren't allowed to load their rifles.
Guest, you are on the wrong forum. The Krackpot Konspiracy Forum is someplace else. The location is secret in case the government tries to spy on them but if you hunt around they'll probably find you.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 11:36 PM

Brother Richard!
My wife from the other room ... says if James Bond is coming to interogate anyone in the US, she volunteers, as long as he is played by the older Sean Connery, who she very much admires.... Hmmmmmmmm. Time to go and see what THAT is about!
Cheers
Larry...
Maybe it is better that baby bush is playing in the gym rather than on the world political stage!

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 09:34 AM

Well folks, better brace yourselves...it can only get worse. And, what do you expect from a government headed up by: A Colon, a Bush and a Dick?

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 09:45 AM

Guest. re Yahoo trace

Yeah. Thanks. My local court is in the UK, so not much joy there.

I thought there might be a site that could do an upside-down version of www.people.yahoo.com

I don't expect a US court to take a non-US complaint seriously. Too keen on constitional freedom of speech - except for foreigners.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: Kim C
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 09:54 AM

I'm gettin' in line behind Larry's wife. ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 12:40 PM

Foreigners in this country are covered by the constitution.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: sophocleese
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 06:34 PM

James Bond! Whooee! I'll take Sean Connery or Timothy Dalton.

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: InOBU
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 11:44 PM

RICHARD!!!! LOOK WHAT YOU STARTED! A LOT OF US IN THE USA ARE GOING TO HAVE A COLD LONELY NIGHT CAUSE OF YOU!!! I am going to have to get out my Tux and practice my Edenburg burr... Thanks pal...
Larry

Subject: RE: BS: Geo W 'death threats'
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM

Try martinis, Larry, stirred not shaken.