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Subject: War Winning Weapon From: John Gray Date: 01 Mar 02 - 04:36 PM Several weeks ago one of the threads discussed Spam. I knew what it was and had read about it being part of the diet for the military in WWII, but I had never tasted it. So, when I saw a small can on the s/market shelf, here in OZ, I grabbed it. It's made by Hormel Foods, Austin. MN. All I can say is, that if you fed this stuff to animals you'd be cited for cruelty. Forget about weapons of distruction, if they had of dropped this stuff on the enemy in WWII they would have surrended en masse. Hit Afghanistan with it and Bin Laden will break his neck to give up. I reckon it's 'tinned salt', let it dry, gring it up , and whack it in the salt shaker. One of the ingredients, listed on the label, is 'mechanically separated chicken'. Now I'm having trouble getting my mind around that. Do they have a robot pull the chooks apart? Are they on a rack and stretched until they tear apart? Mechanically separated, what a great phrase. I'm going to whack it in my will. Among the other things in there to put a smile on my Son's faces when I depart, I can just see Ryder reading the will - shit, dad wants to be mechanically separated. Followed by Slade - okay, lets get the fucking Caterpiller out. JG/FME |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Irish sergeant Date: 01 Mar 02 - 04:44 PM John: Mechanically separated? That sounds like something Himmler and that gang thought of. being from the land of the big PX,(America in Vietnam Era military slang) I can state with certainty that nobody really knows what is in Spam. Sure is strange. I like the idea of dropping it on Bin Laden exept I spent some time in the Middle East and seen what those folks eat. Brr Heinous! HAVE A GREAT WEEK END! Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Mar 02 - 04:56 PM I quite liked Spam. Too salty? A bit bland I seem to remember.
Is that a clue to differences in taste preferences down under? Like the difference between Marmite and Vegemite, which sweems a bit bland too for my tastebuds. (I'm not knocking Vegemite - if I couldn't get Marmite or any of the Marmite clones they sell in supermarkets, I think I could just about get by with Vegemite.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: CarolC Date: 01 Mar 02 - 05:00 PM Muahahahahaha!!!
Spam haters of the world unite!
One of the most gawdawful things my mother ever inflicted on me (baked with a nasty clotted concoction of mustard, honey and milk), besides lima beans! |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: artbrooks Date: 01 Mar 02 - 05:22 PM Actually, it tastes quite good fried over a diesel-fuel stove and served with LOTS of hot sauce. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: John Gray Date: 01 Mar 02 - 05:23 PM Maybe the Spam recipe has changed over the years or maybe just this manufacturer has a high salt content in their product but gee whizz, it made my eyes water. This company could save on cans. There is so much salt in the Spam that it would stay preserverd without resorting to canning. JG/FME |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Mar 02 - 05:35 PM Maybe you really need wartime rationing to appreciate it. Maybe combined with extreme youth.
But if it's that salty it sounds as if they must have changed the recipe.
As artbrooks said, it's best fried.
But I'd sooner risk it than a Big Mac. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth Date: 01 Mar 02 - 06:44 PM Actually I like it ! Me mother aquirded the taste during Wartime Rationing, and it was/is served up time and time again BTW The origin of "Spam" or "Spaming" Bland, and evrybody gets some !!! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Ebbie Date: 01 Mar 02 - 07:55 PM They say that Hawaii and Alaska consume more Spam (spiced ham, right?) than any other US states. Probably because of the shipping distances affecting fresh meat. I do remember eating it in Oregon during the WWII years. I've tried eating it -once - in recent years, just as I tried 'Postum'. ONE time. arrrrggggghhhhhh... Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: mack/misophist Date: 01 Mar 02 - 08:09 PM My Philippino friends tell me it's one of the most popular breakfast foods in the islands. They eat it fried. The only way to go. Fry till crusty and serve with a nice Bernaise. Wonderful!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Irish sergeant Date: 01 Mar 02 - 08:15 PM To be honest, I've eaten it. The taste isn't bad but I always found it a bit salty for my tastes and a bit fatty. I'd rather risk turnips (Which by the way I loathe since I got sick on them.) Spam was a staple in our house. With eleven children in the house., Mom and DAd made do as best they could and Spam with hot sauce is palatable although with horse radish is better. Have a good weekend. Spam is now doing turkey. Be afraid, be very afraid! Mwahahha! Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Date: 01 Mar 02 - 08:24 PM Listen here pal,Spam made me the man ah am theday.Ye can eat it richt oot o' the can,that saves electricity.As long as ye dinnae open the can it keeps forever,very handy in a post Apocalyptic world.Fried up it cleans oot yer innards oan the way oot,saving ye fae intestinal blockages.Boiled up ye can skim the fat aff the tap an' lubricate yer bike or ither intricate mechanical contraptions. It wis Spam that won the war.Jings ah'm droolin oan the keys jist thinkin aboot it. Ane o' the wonders o' the modern world. ljc Btw,ye never hear o' Spam eaters wi' the piles!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Date: 01 Mar 02 - 08:41 PM Hormel developed America's first canned ham (''Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham'') in 1926, and eleven years later developed the first canned meat product that did not require refrigeration. It was a ''distinctive chopped pork shoulder and ham mixture'' developed by Jay C. Hormel, son of Hormel founder George A. Hormel, and marketed as ''Hormel Spiced Ham'' - not a terribly inspiring name for an innovative product fated to save lives, win wars, and balance diets of people world wide.
Hormel Spiced Ham got off to a slightly rocky start. Other meatpackers began to introduce their own canned luncheon meats, and Hormel lost its controlling share of the market. Soon, however, they came up with a cunning plan to rectify this situation - they would give Hormel's luncheon meat a truly catchy name. Toward this end, they offered $100 for a suitable appellation. The winning name was, of course, ''SPAM'', and a legend was born.
SPAM was launched with much high-profile advertising in mid-1937. It was called ''the Miracle Meat'', and promoted as an anytime meat. In 1940, SPAM was the subject of quite possibly the first singing commercial. The jingle was to the tune of the chorus of ''My Bonny Lies Over The Ocean'', and the lyrics were ''SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM/ Hormel's new miracle meat in a can/ Tastes fine, saves time./ If you want something grand,/ Ask for SPAM!''. Hormel also sponsored George Burns' and Gracie Allen's network radio show, which included ''Spammy the Pig''. During World War II, sales boomed. Not only was SPAM great for the military, as it required no refrigeration, it wasn't rationed as beef was, so it became a prime staple in American meals. SPAM supported the war effort more directly, too. Nikita Kruschev credits SPAM with the survival of the Russian Army during WWII. During the late 1940s and early 1950s, the Hormel Girls performing troupe advertised SPAM as they performed throughout the country, distributed SPAM door-to-door, and even had a national weekly radio show. Ads proclaimed, ''Cold or hot, SPAM hits the spot!''
What now awaits us on the SPAM front? Only time (and possibly Hormel) will tell. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Mar 02 - 08:55 PM "Ye can eat it richt oot o' the can,that saves electricity." Mind, that goes for cat food too.
What's that film where a gangster hitman on a stakeout lives off cat food, straight out of the tin? My cats are healthier than me anyway, it's probably very nutritious and tasty. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: kendall Date: 01 Mar 02 - 09:43 PM When I was in the service back in the 50's we had to clean out the survivors rations. Many cans of SPAM. We took great pleasure in dumping that crap! |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Ebbie Date: 01 Mar 02 - 10:26 PM In Juneau, Alaska, we seem to have rather odd but descriptive names for various local features. For instance, a 70-acre land spit created from the tailings of bygone gold mines is called 'The Rock Dump'. An unfortunately apt building that houses the State Department of Labor is called 'The Plywood Palace'. Our State Office Building is the S.O.B. And a tall, silvery-sided office building with ribbony strips at intervals is popularly known as the Spam Can. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: DougR Date: 01 Mar 02 - 10:33 PM I haven't eaten Spam since WWII. Don't plan to either. Carol C, you don't like Lima beans? Someday we will find something we both like. I'm an optomist! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: CarolC Date: 01 Mar 02 - 10:47 PM They make me gag and want to vomit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Date: 01 Mar 02 - 10:59 PM Hahahaha!!!Carol.ljc |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: dick greenhaus Date: 01 Mar 02 - 11:02 PM and I thought the ultimate war weapon was the pretzel... |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: kendall Date: 01 Mar 02 - 11:21 PM Oh my Dick! I mean, wow that was clever. Dont you think so, Doug? I'm with Carol C...always hated Lima beans, celery, broccoli and zuchinni. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: rangeroger Date: 01 Mar 02 - 11:25 PM I like Spam. It has to be the true stuff however, none of that mechanically separated chicken.I too have wondered how that is accomplished. The Spam I like has to be 100% pork by-products or it is not worth the salt it is made out of. Spam, Lovely Spam. rr |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Date: 01 Mar 02 - 11:45 PM Crivvens whit up we ye ataw,Lima beans, celery, broccoli and zuchinni. Manna fae heaven.Ah love them aw'.ljc |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Mar 02 - 11:45 PM Doug - Did you mean you're an optimist or an optometrist? Spam? Have hardly ever eaten it at all...I recall that it's very salty, but it's not the kind of thing I would usually think of eating. I bet it's not as repulsive as haggis, but of course it is more common... - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: JohnInKansas Date: 02 Mar 02 - 12:22 AM S. P. A. M. Something Posing As Meat Actually, SPAM is sort of a staple for campers around my parts. I don't know many people who eat it regularly at home - more of a special occasion delicacy - but a fair percentage of folk at any festival campsite will have a can or two tucked away, just in case. Tourists should visit the Seattle SPAM Festival, where fame and prizes are awarded for "SPAM Carving." It's actually no more noxious than most processed "luncheon meats" if properly prepared. Grilled with Velveeta, (the other simulated food product of great fame) it makes a tasty sandwich. (Since it's usually reserved for "emergencies" when you've run out of ice and everything else looks much worse, one must be certain to pick the blue and green spots off the bread before grilling.) Adds splendid variety if you packed light and are living on MREs. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Chip2447 Date: 02 Mar 02 - 01:56 AM Spam is wonderful stuff, grilled, fried, broiled or baked. Spam burgers and spam casseroles, spam and cheese fondue, spam shish kabobs, chunked spam in Kraft mac and cheese. Spam and corn bread, Spam and a a big pot of navy beans. Damn, I'm getting hungry.... Chip2447...(not affiliated with the Hormel company) |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: John Gray Date: 02 Mar 02 - 02:55 AM I just had another look at my Spam can and I see it's 'spreadable'. So maybe it is a different and more salty recipe. Or maybe that's something to do with the mechanical separation bit, maybe the chickens have to 'spread 'em' first, before they can be mechanically separated. Sounds like a job Luther could really get his teeth into! JG/FME
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Date: 02 Mar 02 - 09:04 AM Little Hawk,ye're treadin oan dangerous grun' there,insultin the Great Chieftain O' the Puddin race!!!Have ye ever had it or are ye bein taen in wi' the Anti-Haggis propagana? ljc |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth Date: 02 Mar 02 - 09:31 AM On the other hand These Gareth |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth Date: 02 Mar 02 - 09:33 AM .... Were nicknamed Spam Cans Gareth |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: artbrooks Date: 02 Mar 02 - 10:34 AM Little John's history of spam is interesting, but incomplete...or perhaps it is shaded to conceal the real truth. Anyway, the stuff beat C-rations. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: heric Date: 02 Mar 02 - 10:51 AM I was half listening to the Cartoon Network in the background just now, when I heard Johnny Bravo refer to "a rotten bag of body parts." This piqued my hearing attentiveness just in time to hear the guest cartoon star, sounding for all the world just exactly like ljc, say: "OOh, stop. Yer makin me mouth water." Dan |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: CarolC Date: 02 Mar 02 - 11:43 AM Oohhh... Spreadable. How insidious. Next they'll be putting it in squeezable squirt bottles like that horrible peanut butter and jelly abomination and sending it to school with the kids. Where will it all end? |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Bobert Date: 02 Mar 02 - 11:59 AM Now, the poor ol bobert quit eating red meat back in the 60's but there were two disgusting things that I admit to having occasional cravings: Spam and Scrapple. Well, they now have Turkey Spam, which I'll fry up a slice of about once a month. Now, if they could just make a Turkey Scrapple, I'd be a happier hillbilly. As fir dropping the Spam on Osama. He might go fir the Turkey Spam but Muslem he won't ouch the old stuff. Heck, he might like it so much that he'd venture out of his cave in search of another can of yummy spam... |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Mar 02 - 01:51 PM Little John - Tae be bruitally honest aboot it, Ah wis jist hae'in a wee bit o' fun at the expense o' the Scots. I hae naeverrr taested haggis, Ah'm sad tae sae... - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Don Firth Date: 02 Mar 02 - 01:54 PM In the late Sixties, a few of us used to get together frequently on Saturday mornings (early Saturday afternoons, really) and someone would cook up a huge mess of Spam and scrambled eggs. We would consume enough so that for the next hour or two, all we could do was sit around and burp and scratch. My wife Barbara is not really freaky about diet, but she keeps up on the elements of good nutrition, avoiding too much salt, saturated fats, minimizing red meat intake, that sort of thing. She's pretty creative, so I can't complain. She does most of the cooking, because my culinary skills encompass such things as throwing a frozen dinner in the microwave and making Dagwood sandwiches with bagels. They peak out with the peanut butter and grape jelly sandwich (my pn & gj sandwiches must be eaten while wearing a towel, otherwise you turn blue). I was seventy years old my last birthday and I'm essentially sedentary because I'm stuck in a wheelchair, but my blood pressure hovers around 130 over 80 and the last time my cholesterol was tested, it came out at 1 76, with a good balance of HDLs and LDLs. Sometimes I would kill for a huge plate of fried Spam and scrambled eggs!!! Don (drool drool) Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: DougR Date: 02 Mar 02 - 03:07 PM L.H. Optimist. Carol C, Kendall: I suppose you two don't like Mountain Oysters either! I suppose they make you want to throw-up too, huh Carol C.? I declare, you just can't account for the likes of some folks. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Date: 02 Mar 02 - 03:17 PM Whit's yer point Art?ljc |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Mar 02 - 05:17 PM Art - The Spam-Shatner connection had never occurred to me. Thanks for bringing notice to it! I see possibilities for adding a 1/2 credit cooking course here at the WSSBA... - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Les from Hull Date: 02 Mar 02 - 06:24 PM Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg, bacon and spam; egg, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam; spam, spam, spam, egg and spam; spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam; or Lobster thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: gnu Date: 02 Mar 02 - 06:34 PM Spam... Prem. Prem luncheon meat... now there's a jewel. Best eaten early in the morning, so you can enjoy it all day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth Date: 02 Mar 02 - 06:35 PM More pictures of Spam Cans - Battle of Britain Class Gareth |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: GUEST,jaze Date: 02 Mar 02 - 07:44 PM Slightly OT but Spam burgers reminded me of a culinary treat here in Va. that I'd never heard of before moving here: Bologna burgers! I've never tried one but they are popular here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Hrothgar Date: 02 Mar 02 - 07:55 PM I always had my doubts about it, and then came the Spam song - was it the Monthy Python crew? I would rather eat luncheon sausage, which includes in its contents "manufactured meat" along with a string of numbers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Bill D Date: 02 Mar 02 - 08:53 PM but, Spam has already been used against the Roosians!! look here! ...you don't see Yeltsin around anymore, do you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: MarkS Date: 02 Mar 02 - 09:05 PM Catters better not go to Hawaii, where Spam is the national meal. And CarolC If you ever get to Montreal, let me give you the name of a Greek restaurant there. The Lima Beans are served with each meal as an accompiment, and they are to die for. Mark Who always hated Lima Beans, but not in Montreal |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Bill D Date: 02 Mar 02 - 09:22 PM "De gustibus non disputantum est" ..funny, I ate a lot of Spam as a kid...have barely tasted it since, but I don't mind it...just never need it. I ate it fried, with catsup (as a sandwich). Lima beans??? well, depends...'good' Lima beans are ok! (or Butter beans or Black-eyed peas))...but something about them really bothers some folk. (I suppose Vienna Sausages are in the same 'ughhh' list?) 30 years ago I worked at a Stokley-Van Camp cannery/warehouse, and the crew ate a LOT of beans, Vienna sausages, canned fruit, canned chili...etc..usually in 8 oz. cans...you could put a can on the manifold of the fork lift or in the vanes of an overhead heater for 20 minutes and have instant lunch! I learned to eat butter beans right from the can with salt & pepper added from a little dispenser I carried. EVERYONE had a P-38 army surplus can opener in their pocket, and some guys went for years without bringing linch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: dick greenhaus Date: 03 Mar 02 - 10:22 AM Spam contains all of the basic nutritional groups: Salt Sugar Fat Additives A perfect food. |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: kendall Date: 03 Mar 02 - 08:45 PM OH MY GOD! I just had a horrible thought. Mechanically separated chicken means Road kill! they are talking about a freekin' car! |
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Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Date: 03 Mar 02 - 08:55 PM Whit's the difference,it's still deid.ljc |