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Subject: What is a hummer? From: Zorro Date: 26 Sep 99 - 06:22 PM Someone asked me today (like I should know) about hummers. Supposedly it has something to do with funeral? music, maybe New Orleans music? Chanting? I said, "Hey I don't know, but if no one at mudcat has heard of it, it does not exist!" Can anyone help? |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Sep 99 - 06:54 PM Hmmmmm..... This could be an interesting word association test. Well, Zorro, the first thing that comes to mind for me is those obnoxiously huge and expensive military/recreational vehicles that, in my opinion, should be banned from the highways. (Click for more information) Click here for price - OW!!! -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: katlaughing Date: 26 Sep 99 - 07:17 PM I think what your questioner might have meant is mummers. In New Orleans, during Mardi Gras, and in other cities, most notably Philadelphia, there are huge masks and elaborate costumes paraded once per year, along with music, etc. I did not find a direct reference to "mummers" in New Orleans, but did find many for places elsewhere, from Oregon, to the UK. For some vivid photos of the costuems and historical info from Mardi Gras in New Orleans, click here. I did not find a specific "mummers" reference to the famous jazz processional bands of New Orleans which traditionally play for funerals, but that is what came to mind right away when I read your question. Hope this helps. katlaughing |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: sophocleese Date: 26 Sep 99 - 07:42 PM Whew kat. I was thinking it might have been 'bummers' and they were just asking about sad songs....grin. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Zorro Date: 26 Sep 99 - 08:09 PM My Apologies.. It is MUMMER and not hummer. Katlaughing was correct. They are clubs that originated in 17th. century Europe; once a year they put on elaborate costumes and visit one another's homes, etc. They are very active in Philadelphia and other cities. I live in Houston, and in near by Galveston, Texas, there is a Mummers club and they come out for the Madi Gras parade there. Thanks to all. Z.... |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Dave Swan Date: 26 Sep 99 - 08:15 PM Sorry 'spaw, all that material wasted. E.S. |
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Subject: RE: What is a MUMMER? From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Sep 99 - 08:33 PM Ohhhhh.....Mummers. Them we got - click here and here and, of course, here for a little bit of Mummer stuff that's been here before, and there is one song (click) in the database that mentions mummers. I'd say the Philadelphia Mummers are the best known. They're at www.mummers.com, dontchaknow. But if it's an $80,000 car that's two lanes wide, we don't have any. And we don't want any. Bummer, huh? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Big Mick Date: 26 Sep 99 - 09:11 PM HEY SPAW!!!! YOU GONNA JUMP ALL OVER "HUMMERS"? OR SHOULD I DO IT????????? I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF HE DID CORRECT IT, WE COULD HAVE FUN WITH THIS ONE.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMick |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: paddymac Date: 26 Sep 99 - 10:15 PM Mick & 'spaw - my momma would roll over in her grave and slap me for sure if she knew I knew what a "hummer" was. Have a hunch yours' might also. Every once in a while, given the proper associative stimulus, I seem to slip out of polite society and revert, at least in my mind, to my mis-spent youth 'neath the globe and anchor. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 26 Sep 99 - 10:58 PM Yeah, I knew that. Seems I am saying this a lot lately. I knew about those guys in the fancy dancy outfits in Philadelphia's New Years Day parade. And usually lots of banjo's (tenor type). I knew they were something close to hummer. But all I could think of was HumVees (those vehicles Joe hates) and oral sex (which no one wants to talk about). There, it's said. All those adolescent minds can now go to sleep. Big RiB |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: cara Date: 26 Sep 99 - 11:29 PM Ummm, this is very bad. I could not believe my eyes when I saw a thread titled "What is a hummer?" I thought some poor misguided soul was tryig to get into the Mudcat chat room and ended up in one of the sex chats accidentally...(didn't that happen to someone? alison maybe?) I can't wai to see where this ends up.
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: unclenort Date: 26 Sep 99 - 11:47 PM hey, what's wrong with an adolescent mind? |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: BK Date: 27 Sep 99 - 12:03 AM Hey, come on, dirty minds.. there are other meanings; my favorite clean meaning - about which I can comfortably (usually animatedly) talk to me Mum, is... you guessed it - or would've if you'd not have yer minds in the gutter(s), 'Spaw, etc.. - is HUMMINGBIRD! Seriously, "hummer" is also an old slang term for these "jewels of the air," & my 74 yr old Mom has just discovered birding (NOT brit slang... guess there's no way out!). Cheers, BK |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: WyoWoman Date: 27 Sep 99 - 12:54 AM I will not respond in a naughty way to this question. I will not respond in a naughty way to this question. I will not respond in a naughty way to this question. I will not respond in a naughty way to this question. I will not respond in a naughty way to this question. I will not respond in a naughty way to this question. I will not respond in a naughty way to this question. THHHWWWWHTHTHTTH... my head just exploded from the pressure of all that trying to be good ... BTW -- Do the Mummers parade in New Orleans, or is that actually more a Philly thaing? WW, who tries to keep her mind on higher things, but sometimes is simply base. HEY, I had a husband who was an Airborne Ranger -- I learned a LOT of rude s**t from him and his buds. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Barbara Date: 27 Sep 99 - 12:54 AM Isn't it also slang for a really fast pitch, and a great big honking loogie? Just wondering And those of you who don't live with hummingbirds, do you know they're called that because they actually make a sort of buzzing zzzzzzzzzzip as they divebomb you (and every other time)? The noisiest ones around here are the Rufous Hummingbirds, and they go zzzzzzzzzzzzziiiinnnnng! (like they had bells on). Amazing birds. Large moths are bigger. Ours all packed off for warmer climes about three weeks ago. Blessings, Barbara |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: WyoWoman Date: 27 Sep 99 - 01:04 AM We have the Rufous hummngbirds here. They're truly wonderful. My cat actually caught one once, but I rescued it. It was fine, and flew away after catching its breath for a minute. But I can't describe the feeling of blessedness, holding a hummingbird in my hand. It left a couple of tiny little feathers in my hand, which I wrapped up in a tissue and have held onto for the ten years or so that have passed since then. (This story would have had a much different feel to it if the darned cat had killed the bird. This is why I don't have bird feeders at my house. The cat thinks they're a sushi bar...) ww |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: catspaw49 Date: 27 Sep 99 - 02:06 AM Nice story WW............... I've read threads since 9 PM and from the third one on, decided on the 12 step. I will stick up this one and then go back...a bit of recidivism. BK- "Gutter" or "dirty" or "filthy" or otherwise/whatever, I could care less. I've often said I don't care what anybody thinks, I'm only offended by how we treat each other. But I'm also chiefly concerned about what I think of ME. And right now, I ain't too choked up about myself. When I allow my own simpleass opinions to somehow bear more weight than respaect for friendship, I'm truly fucked up then.......and I see that I am now. Had I just skipped that third thread, this one would have been a catspaw delight........maybe some other time. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: annamill Date: 27 Sep 99 - 01:04 PM When I saw this thread I thought we were going to be complaining about people who hummed while others performed. I see I was wrong on two accounts. I don't know too much about the first account. I've heard of Mummers and I've seen them on TV and in books, but thats about it. The second account, I have only one question..how did something that gives us one of life's greatest pleasures (I'm referring to sex) get such a bad rap?? I'm an older woman and I've spent my whole life wondering about that. Well, not my whole life, just whenever someone refers to sex as something other than wonderful. I don't know. Seems awful silly to me. Love, annap (who thinks "the gutter" must be a great place to hang out) |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: katlaughing Date: 27 Sep 99 - 01:25 PM Annap, it's because, in the patriarchal world of old, and even of today in some places, enjoying sex was against the control of the church. It meant women, might choose to be free, instead of subservient wombs. In all cases, the church wanted to have complete control of its "sheep", esp. the women. By making sex, for anything other than procreation, supposedly dirty, evil, and abhorrent, people lived in fear and under the thumb of their priest or church elders. Some still do. Some are so rigidly into the only for procreation bit that they actually never experience the pleasure of it; they approach it as a necessary duty; then, if they are brave hypocrits, they fly in the face of their convictions and go have sex with a "filthy whore" without ever admitting any pleasure. All the while, their women at home remain "pure" in the eyes of them and their "lord". The Puritans were great at such self-denial; effectively cutting themselves off from any physical pleasures. I believe our country still suffers from such a legacy. katonasoapbox'causeitsalwaysbeenwonderfulforme,too! |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Lonesome EJ Date: 27 Sep 99 - 02:06 PM Catspaw... I am really pissed now. I meant to make a quick check of the Mudcat, then I read your above msg indicating that you are disgruntled for some cryptic reason. Now I'm reading every thread trying to figure out why... You, my friend, are a constant cource of wonder to me. YES I mean that in a good way. LEJ |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: annamill Date: 27 Sep 99 - 02:07 PM Thanks Kat, but I think I asked the wrong question. I mean, I know why it is the way it is. I just don't understand why it STILL is the way it is. This, incidentally, is one of the many reasons I'm not a very religous person. At least formally religous. Our greatest insult to each other is to tell someone you're gonna have sex with them ;-) F**K YOU???? Why, thank you. How nice of you to offer. Maybe another time. Love, annap |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Lonesome EJ Date: 27 Sep 99 - 02:27 PM Like Mr Bruce said, we've got that "f*ck you" stuff all backwards. Being one of nature's most pleasant experiences, Lenny said we could do no better than wish each other a very pleasant "F*ck You!" And so annap, Catspaw, Katlaf... a most delightful f*ck you to y'all, and may the rest of your day be bathed in the afterglow! :>}LEJ |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Jack (Who is called Jack) Date: 27 Sep 99 - 02:42 PM Kat, I agree with your comments, but don't underestimate the issue of inheritance as a driving force too. "Who inherits titles and property' has always been a part of this issue." The whole rancid idea of 'legitimate' vs. 'illegitimate' children is associated with this. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: annamill Date: 27 Sep 99 - 03:07 PM Why, thank you LEJ. Kat, I hope I didn't sound unappreciative of your input. It was well appreciated. Thank you. I've never been big on self-denial myself. Life's just too short, which becomes more and more apparent as I get older. ;-) Love, annap |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: katlaughing Date: 27 Sep 99 - 04:14 PM annap, not at all! Actually, I kinda wondered about YOU asking such, as it didn't mesh with what I've gathered you are like from your postings and reports of those wild and outrageously loud parties you have in those, must be, two-seater kayaks!**BG** I thought you probably already knew all of that, but, you know me, when someone asks and I have a strong opinion (when don't I?), I just have to answer! I echo your sentiments, WHY is it still that way??? Jack, very good point. LeeJ: LMAO, and a fine FOCK you, too!*BG* Poor Zorro, I wonder if he ever imagined his thread would come to this? Ah, the wonder of thread creep.
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Banjer Date: 27 Sep 99 - 08:03 PM A HUMMER is someone who forgot the words......and Big RiB says oral sex is something no one wants to talk about; I was always told one shouldn't talk with their mouth full anyway...... |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 27 Sep 99 - 08:12 PM Ah, woe is me. I guess it is now time for one of those oft repeated Mudcat Mea Culpa thread creeps. Being a typical guilt-ridden WASP, I am willing to take responsibility for Catspaw's upset. It was I who referred to adolescent minds. 'Twas all in good humor (I sign all my humor Big RiB), but perhaps 'twas seen as insulting. NOI, NOI, NOI. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: catspaw49 Date: 27 Sep 99 - 09:04 PM Oh for gawdsake...Take your sorries and put 'em where the sun don't shine.........My "upset" had nothing to do with your post at all RiB......Geezus, it just had to do with me and fockin' over brother Rick...I was mad at me!!! Poor BK kinda' got in my line of vision. Sorry BK............There are a few things in this life that I find beyond contempt. One is sacrificing a friend for selfish reasons. I just had to drawback a bit and accept that I was out of line in my own mind. Now as far as oral sex and a gutter mind go, well........I've heard it suggested that the ideal woman would have knee pads nad a flat head (so you have a place to put your drink). Annap---If you haven't read it, go find a copy of the late Allen Sherman's book, "The Rape of the A. P. E." Completely hilarious, but one specifically memorable chapter,"Short Chapter, Long Footnote." The chapter is one word long---FUCK. The next 15 or 20 pages are the footnote. Leej, RiB, BK----Sorry if I sounded angered -- I was, but only at myself. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: annamill Date: 27 Sep 99 - 09:13 PM To me you didn't sound angered. Just very sad and we don't like to hear you sad. Whatever it was you did, just don't do it again and move on. We love you. Love, annap |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Big Mick Date: 27 Sep 99 - 09:41 PM Geez........I don't know what to say except......................
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Lonesome EJ Date: 27 Sep 99 - 09:52 PM Hell, Mick, ya mean we're serving beer in this thread too?! Hot Damn! Oh, and watch out for the little Irish girl- she's little, but she packs a whale of a punch in her right arm. Comes from years of bodhran-beating. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: slightly more serious answer Date: 27 Sep 99 - 09:54 PM Hi I don't know the connection, but in NEwport Rhode Island one of the oldest neighborhoods is called "the Point' and people from that neighborhood have been called "hummers" for at least 100 - 150 years, as in "He's a real, old point hummer!" meaning, an old timer, a native... John "fud" Benson, a nationally known artist, and incidentally a fine folk musician, lived on the shore there for many years and had a lobsterman's skiff named "Point Hummer" That neighborhood was settled around 1650 and has a lot of historical assocaitions dating back to when they hung 17 pirates in a row on the beach by the end of what is now Washington Street...so you can make any folk association you want with the sea or old-timers Matt McConeghy |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: baltimore eddie in old T.O. Date: 27 Sep 99 - 11:20 PM If I had a hummer, I'd humm 'er in the mornin' I'd humm 'er in the evenin', all over this land I'd humm 'er outdoors...and I'd humm 'er in Warsaw... I'd hum about ... love between ... my brothers and sisters ( is this Arkansas ? ) All over this lannnnd. Now Trini Lopez...HE could humm |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: WyoWoman Date: 28 Sep 99 - 12:31 AM Let's all go to the Tavern and walk in, arm in arm -- or whatever, singing that song together. And AnnaP, because you are such a righteous dude, you lead the way. (You know what I could never, ever fathom? The guys who work so hard to get you into the sack and then when you finally just let go and DO IT, giving you and the he in quesiton great pleasure, they despise you for having given yourself to them. What the hell is that all about? I mean, what kind of self-image could someone have if he disrespects you for giving something beautiful and sharing yourself with him? I don't get it. Never have. Never will.) (Wow! This is the most dramatic thread creep I've EVER participated in...) WW |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: catspaw49 Date: 28 Sep 99 - 01:41 AM Kinda' amazin' ain't it WW??? Maybe its the thrill of the chase, the hunter instinct, or the rampant insanity of the male animal. But remember, most males will fuck mud, dogs, sheep, blow up dolls, a "Vibrasonic Pocket Pussy".......hellfire, I walked in on a guy in college screwing the bejesus out of his pillow. I guess he was trying to make his mattress jealous or something......... I cannot explain my own gender and therefore its hopeless to try to understand the other (yours). But listen, if you want to get into the disrespect thing, we could meet in, say, Omaha........You pick up Kat and Leej, I'll grab Mick and annap.......We'll get one room, you all bring some Wesson and we'll pick up a rubber sheet........and we can all disrespect the livin' shit out of each other for a day or two......... Spaw
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: paddymac Date: 28 Sep 99 - 02:26 AM Gee, WyoW, where do you go fishing for guys? No doubt there are lots of guys who fit the picture you drew, but certainly not all. And, with a good teacher, those attidues do evolve beyond mere rutting to a glorious sharing. Seems like the more mature I get (Phew! Started to say older) the more gals I encounter who are also interested in a joyous mutuality. I suspect the real problem is that our two halves have different and differing objectives during the peak breeding years, and then differentially grow into the beauty of sharing. Here's a pint to the joy of continuing to evolve! |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: alison Date: 28 Sep 99 - 05:11 AM Hey Spaw.... If I can't be there... can I at least see the photos? or can we hold it a bit closer to Oz?..... slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Allan C. Date: 28 Sep 99 - 09:26 AM WW, it all comes down to give and take. Some people really get into the giving; some to the taking. What some people never seem to understand is that when both participants are giving, the taking transforms into receiving. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: catspaw49 Date: 28 Sep 99 - 10:28 AM and for a finale, Allen pulls a rabbit out of his hat.............. Sorry Allen, couldn't resist...but you are right of course....But I loved the way you phrased it. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: WyoWoman Date: 28 Sep 99 - 10:58 AM Once again my dogs think I'm completely crazy, laughing hysterically as I sit in front of this funny computer thing. Yes, I know there are people of both descriptions who go for the glorious mutuality -- and I've certainly had my share of that -- but I'm also amazed, even now that I'm "mature" that there are still men who are playing this idiot game. Or, even more disheartening, the ones who seem to like you really well, things go along nicely and then, all of a sudden they get all squirrely because ... I don't know, best I can tell they think you want to marry them and bear the fruit of their loins. Which, when you're "mature" is particularly dumb, since my children are of fruit-of-loin-bearing age now. I always wonder, when you've done all that withholding of yourself, what you end up actually holding... Don't mind me. I'm just mulling. But, 'Spaw, could we use a nice scented body oil instead of all that Wesson? And the rubber sheets are out. Time enough for those when we all finally check into the Neil Young Xtreme ward... ww |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: WyoWoman Date: 28 Sep 99 - 10:59 AM And you know, considering where this thread has gone and where it started, I bet poor Zorro thinks he has wandered into a nest of utter lunatics. Perceptive man, that Zorro... |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Peter T. Date: 28 Sep 99 - 11:23 AM I'm from Canada. You can't have oral sex in Canada because your tongue gets frozen to the railing. This is why we all act so politely. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: annamill Date: 28 Sep 99 - 11:36 AM Peter, you guys in Canada have been putting your tongues in the wrong place! Sorry. Love, thisisawonderousthreadcreep, annap |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Allan C. Date: 28 Sep 99 - 12:22 PM WW and all, there is, IMHO, no finer oil than Weleda's Arnicated Oil. It smell's great, feels wonderful, and has (I strongly believe,) miraculous healing qualities for sore muscles. A fine, fine massage oil. But some people need to keep it away from mucosal areas - so I have been told - never seen it to be a problem for anyone I have known. Allan C. doinghisparttoperpetuatethecreep |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: sophocleese Date: 28 Sep 99 - 12:56 PM But, Allan, will it keep your tongue from freezing to the railing? sophocleese whoislookingaheadtowinter |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: katlaughing Date: 28 Sep 99 - 01:03 PM Naw, in Canada, the only thing that'll work, and you'll have to see DougR for this, is good ole' WD40!**BG** |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: Helge Date: 28 Sep 99 - 01:21 PM In Norwegian ,hummer= lobster Helge |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: lamarca Date: 28 Sep 99 - 01:35 PM "But what about crunchy peanut butter?", she asked plaintively... Do you suppose we could request that a cabin at the Getaway be lined with satin-covered airmattresses and stocked with a case of good booze and a couple gallons of Extra-virgin olive oil? (not that I think there are any extra virgins in this crowd...) |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: sophocleese Date: 28 Sep 99 - 02:02 PM WD40? Yuck!!! I'll go for mayonaisse, I use extra virgin oil when I make mine. |
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Subject: RE: What is a hummer? From: katlaughing Date: 20 Aug 01 - 02:44 AM refresh...what an old classic of bs! **BG** |
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